₦airaland Forum

seunmsg:
We are talking about PDP presidential primary where money will play a very vital role here. As it stands, Wike stands a better chance than Jonathan in the party because of his influence. Jonathan will have to outspend him if he intends to win the ticket and I don’t see that happening except Atiku comes to his rescue and I don’t see Atiku doing that.

Ethnicity will play little or no role in the primary. Control over party structure, alliances and money will decide who wins the primary. So, forget about the ethnic divide in the SS, it won’t play any significant role.

Ok I thought you were talking about their general appeal.

BY the way, it makes better strategic sense for Atiku to support Gej, after all he can only do a maximum of 4 years, after which the presidency supposedly reverts back to the north.

Don't be surprised if the northern moneybags that have stolen the nation blind over the last 6 years, decide to throw their weight behind gej, just to ensure power returns to the north after 4years. Wike is quite vulnerable, if you ask me

seunmsg:
I don’t think Jonathan can defeat Wike. Wike is the man to best as far as PDP presidential ticket is concerned.

Jonathan will beat Wike hands down.

In the SS, both his Ijaw people and Igbo-speaking people will choose Jonathan. Ibibio and Urhobo votes will be 50-50. Wike's Obigbo massacre has seriously dented his appeal.

Of course in the SE, Jonathan will whoop Wike also. So in both the SS and SE, Jonathan will have the upper hand.

Now in the SW, NC, NE and NW it will probably be a 50-50 affair, or perhaps a slight advantage for Jonathan.

The only problems Jonathan may have in the SE is that people will see him as weak, and perhaps very intimidatable by the northern power brokers, and also the fact that he will only have 4 years to preside. But in spite of these negative points, he will still far outshine Wike in the SE.

Another Fulani-backed DSS Igbo group.

Dream on

tsdarkside:
are you kiddin me....you are puttin a curse on your own igbo people....

I am placing a curse on the Fulani terrorists carrying out these assassinations in Igboland and their Igbo enablers.

budaatum:
All Biafrans should also stop spending or trading in Naira, and should burn all the Naira they own or be labelled traitors!

It may still come to that. Thanks for a very wonderful idea.

This action will bring Biafra closer by fire by force

ESN should do the needful and kill off those terrorists in Igboland, whether they are in the bush or leaving with us in the towns and cities of Igboland.

They should investigate all these APC-supporting Igbos and Fulanis that live in our towns. Fulani-controlled DSS will be using them to be planning all these murders in Igboland.

Anyone found culpable in these acts should be brutally sent to the throne of judgement to be judged.

BKayy:
So we still have some reasonable people on Nairaland.
Nice on OP.
If only IPOB current leadership is comprised of people with Brain but No, what is left in the organisation without MNK is a bunch of power hungry people without brain. They don't understand the dynamics of what they are in.
Looking at all of them, I now understand why MNK wanted Simon Ekpa who was never part of their leadership structure to lead.
Whatever happens, we the concerned Ndigbo know the truth. Whatever happens, the quest for statehood will never diminish. If IPOB somehow fail which I will try to hinder to the best of my ability, another group will rise in the next few decades. A more sophisticated one that knows who their enemy is.
Not bunch of clown shouting "British citizen" up and down.
IPOB members don't even know who they are fighting. They don't know that the enemy have once done a direct attack to diminish their rank one time when they offered "asylum" but no, they thought it was an acknowledgement

IPOB has to be restructured, starting from Nnamdi Kanu. He does not have what it takes to lead a complex struggle, and he does not have the necessary expertise and wherewithal to do certain things that are necessary in the struggle.
IPOB is currently living off the usual Igbo never-say-die spirit, and that's all. Freedom fighting requires a lot more.
There is a reason Yorubas have an accomplished professor and and elder, leading their struggle, while Igboho appeals to the exuberance of the Yoruba youths.

There is a reason an elder and an accomplished professor is leading the Ibom republic movement. The only thing not going for the Yoruba and Akwa Ibom people is that they are not as boisterous as Igbos.

Igbos are boisterous and extremely resourceful. The only thing we currently lack is the right sort of leadership to make everything work seamlessly.

This is why for many years, I have always advocated that committed and accomplished Igbo elders should lead the struggle, or someone as deft and legally brilliant as Tony Nnadi. When we had committed elders, some of whom are former Ohanaeze president generals, leading the elders council, Nnamdi Kanu used Radio Biafra to alienate them. Today, Achuzia, Sylvester Odumegwu-Ojukwu, Dr. Ikedife are dead.
Unfortunately, the touts of Igboland and eastern Nigeria who were hypnotised by Kanu's broadcasts supported the casting aside of these elders, thus exposing our youths to all manner of tribulations from the Fulani terrorist government, including being declared terrorists when they were just waving banners.

Kanu can just man the directorship of Radio Biafra. More accomplished individuals with the required experience and global reach in powerful circles should take on this mantle of leadership that is currently needed.
It is Kanu's total inexperience as a leader that got him arrested, tortured and bundled back to Nigeria, from a country well known for illegal repatriation of dissidents. That same inexperience is showing in every aspect of his leadership, only that those his failures are not as well pronounced and obvious as his current inexplicable arrest in Kenya.

The Buhari government are well aware of his failings which was why it was very easy for them to capture him again.

The Fulani terrorist government's assassination of Dr Akunyili, while tragic, is a wonderful opportunity for IPOB to bounce back. Fortunately for IPOB, Anambra people are solidly of the impression that the assassination was carried out by Buhari's government, as a ploy to keep giving IPOB a bad name in the east, but this seems to have backfired badly, leading the DSS to start declaring their innocence. We all saw how DSS brought in thugs into the ENDSARS demonstrations to give it a bad name.

I am happy with what the OP wrote as it is all about seeking solutions and putting structures in place to make IPOB stronger. Believe you me, in spite of IPOB's deficiencies, I am very proud of IPOB, and it is possibly the only organisation that this terroristic regime fears. I just want IPOB to speedily restructure for the struggles ahead. Finally, the formation of ESN ought to be hailed by every Igbo man. There is nothing that this terroristic Fulani government will do, to make me rue the formation of ESN. ESN is needed, and I must give IPOB 100% for that. IPOB now needs to put qualified heads to be in charge of the various sectors needed in this freedom struggle, also taking into account, the proposal of the OP.

Joysticks:
An autopsy should be carryout on whose bullets that killed the doctor.

You must be totally inexperienced to expect that an autopsy will help.

Fulani-run DSS will use weapons recovered from criminals to carry out this operation.

This is the same DSS that conveyed thugs to endsars protest to destroy it

Commentor:
The same Igbos that Dr. Dora Akunyili said marked her for assassination as she was spoiling their fake drugs business.

Say another thing jare.

You Fulanis and their slaves working overtime for Igbos not to see this assassination as a Fulani action.

Anyway, it is beginning to make the rounds in Anambra that it was Fulani-backed government action.

I know IPOB disappointed you guys by swiftly denying anything to do with this assassination. Fulanis are in the hot soup alone

SLAP44:
Wao, today is the first day you ever spoke the truth.

I think you are mistaking me with Ojiofor

LegendHero:
I’m not sure Obiano is talking about Fulanis from his statement.

I’m sure now that 20million is at stake, we might know the actual culprit soon as that amount is too much to overlook by ordinary citizens.

Now you have to choose between sure death from those that carried out the murder OR getting 20million richer and damning the consequences. Get rich or die trying mode activated.

He is talking about Fulani herdsmen.

No Igboman or a SS man will do any harm to the Akunyilis.

The only group who are likely to commit this assassination is the Fulani group

Fulanis residing in the SE are trying to bite off more than they can chew.

I have always known it's a Fulani-DSS job.

Introducing terrorism into Igboland and trying to blame it on IPOB.

Fulani does not want the whole Igbo nation coming against them.

They have already killed this man's wife for supporting GEJ's emergence. Now they have killed her husband just to incriminate IPOB, but this action is very likely to backfire badly.

LordVoldermort:
The other day cultists were using Human head to play football the brave ESN was nowhere to be found

Kidnappings are happening all over the east the brave ESN is no where to be found

Destroying people's businesses is the only thing these beasts know how to do

ESN deals with Fulani herdsmen terrorists menace.

The police should be dealing with kidnapping and cultism issues

Papparassi:
He is the Chairman of Opobo home of the Legendary Kig Jaja of Opobo.

The Chairman has just commissioned a police station in Nkoro. Not many people know where Nkoro is, but the people of Nkoro are mainly fisherman and also Ijaw.

Some people say the people of Nkoro migrated from Okrika to Nkoro.

The People of Nkoro in Opobo Nkoro Local govt council are Ijaw.

This is the first time a project will be delivered on schedule in Nkoro since it was added to Opobo LGA.

Ijaw people that can only speak Igbo.

I laugh in Buhari's balls

Captain8:
what kind of mumu calculation is this?
what as market days counting have to do with ebonyi and iboe?
this is namdi kanu calculation not normal human being calculation

The originating shrines of those four market days still exist in the four core Umu NRI towns of Enugwu-ukwu, Nawfia, Enugwu-agidi and Agukwu-Nri. Umu NRI people are unrepentant Igbos.

Now, counting from 1 to 10 immediately reveals whether someone is Igbo or not.

An Ebonyi man can easily understand an Nnewi man counting the numbers in Igbo, and vice versa.
And an Ebonyiman uses the four market days owned by the Nris.
Conclusion: An Ebonyi person is an Igbo person

Captain8:
Nembe speak Izon language.... i understand everything nembe can say....
now, tell me why ezza wawa onitsha languages are different from ibo?
tell me why igbo is made up of 7languages?

A simple way for you to know a true Igbo
1. Do they make use of the traditional Nri-Igbo market days
2. When the count from 1 to 10, is it intelligible to the other Igbo factions

Every other thing is just dialects.

SlayerForever:
Another side to the argument


If Aro is this far spread over a large area with several "descendants" everywhere, they may be just as numerous as Nri. One would think the Nri are overwhelming numerous. Though I recognize that this areas are not huge in population : Okrika, Ubani, Nembe. So perhaps Nri still takes it

Nri people own Eke, Oye/Orie, Afo/Avo and Nkwo, which is practised by all Igbos including Aro people and Bini and Igala people, so Nri is much more ancient.

Nri is to the east and midwest, what latin is to Europe. Many European languages have latin roots, just the same way many cultures in the east and midwest, have Nri roots.

SlayerForever:
Pictures

1) Nembe youths carrying the "Ebebege". A key spiritual symbol. Observe the dressing of the youths. (Forget the Ijaw clown who said Nembe-Ijaw there).


2 and 3) Nembe youths in their boat regatta. Okpu agu everywhere. Recent discoveries have uncovered the boat tradition is not exclusive to the Ijaw as projected. Aboh kingdom of old fought wars and policed their waters effectively with huge gunboats. We are still researching on gun boat use amongst the Ndoki people.



Bkayy, Ariani, Ekealterego, Supremos etc

Boat regattas are usually for ethnic groups that border the coast. It is not an Ijaw thing. Some Ijaws practise it because they are near the coast.

Ijoh:
The Ndoki people say
Aminadokiari. Corrupted to Ndoki by the whites who can't pronounce it.
In my Ijaw it means we are looking for our relations.
In Ibani Ijaw today, it's Waminadokari.

Now you have fallen into my trap.

Aminadokiari is just an Ijaw coinage. At no point did Ndoki people refer to themselves as such.

If there are Ijaws in Ndoki looking for their relatives, they should look no further. Ijaws are in Bayelsa, so they are free to head to Sagbama, which sounds Ijaw. There, they will find their relatives leaving in Ijaw villages and towns. No Igbo town will be going to any non-Igbo country.

Ijaw people should not be at OBIGBO, which means the HEART OF IGBO in Igbo language

ItsTutsi:
It's not certain that the PDP VP slot will go to SE, the permutation has changed.. as things stand, it looks more likely the SS will clinch VP slot

SE, SS it doesn't matter. The point is that the SS never at any point, made any move to hijack the Igbo chance for 2023 presidency, so it won't hurt Igbos that much, if a SS man emerges. SS leaders have, at various points, insisted on every region ceding the 2023 presidency to the Igbos. Unlike Tinubu and some of his APC Yorubas. One good turn deserves another, so if SS elders have been fair and faithful in insisting on Igbo 2023 presidency, Igbos will not kick up dust if a SS man emerges, as that is probably likely to happen after some behind-the-scene agreements and arrangements with the SE.

One thing is clear though, PDP will not be having a Yoruba presidential or vp candidate.

But make no mistakes about it, the SE has the greatest moral justification to be considered for the 2023 presidency. So a huge moral burden will be placed on Nigeria as an entity, if a region that had tasted the presidency since 1970, goes ahead to produce another president in 2023. The case will be clear that there is a grand conspiracy against the Igbos

[quote author=Ijoh post=106180566][/quote]I like the way they ended by writing UMU NDOKI MMAMMA NU.

Obviously writing in the language that they understand.

Like we have been saying all these while, any Igbo-speaking territory goes with the other Igbo-speaking territories, Ndoki inclusive.

Go there and try and force them into a republic that speaks a language they don't understand. Ndoki towns bear Igbo names, so any Ndoki person that feels he is Ijaw can migrate to Sagbama.

Ubani and Opobo, which are great Igbo outposts remain in the Igbo column.

walemoney007:
What is "info"?

Which part of Lagos state is Ijaw claiming?

See bro, I'm not into all this kin childish and senseless talk.

Dey do am with people wey Una dey do am with... Abegi!

Info should be Ondo

walemoney007:
Bro, no dey follow do all this kin childish stuff.

Where Ijaw land start and end is none of your business. So far dem no claim Yoruba land.

Ijaws are already claiming parts of Ondo and Lagos state

Ijoh:
A tribe stretching into more than 6 States, without no other tribe entering their centre, and you say Igbos are bigger than them. How come?
You think it's easy to stretch straight from Ondo, into Edo, ,into Delta, into Bayelsa, into Rivers, into Akwa-Ibom even Aminadokiari Ijaws, when Kogi state alone is bigger than the 5 Igbo states put together.
Same with Oyo state.
Igbos are not more than Ijaws, they were just favoured with more States.

Who are these Aminadokiari Ijaws you keep mentioning? Where is their territory?

LegendHero:
This does not make any sense.

Let me explain it a little better.

If you are a Nigerian policeman, don't go to Canada. They know you are a terrorist.

An Igboman is the justice minister of a major section in Canada, so he is doing his job well

tamdun:
So now u believe elrifai?
What about the primary election that took place in 1999?

Of course I believe El-Rufai is a Fulani supremacist and someone that knows that the PDP presidential slot was microzoned to the SW in 1999.

Abubakar Rimi also ran in that 1999 PDP election primaries. Does it mean the presidential slot was not even zoned to the south?

ayzTIGER:
PDP micro zoned its ticket to SW, El Rufai said it, so the SW folks here denying it is just fooling themselves
https://dailypost.ng/2020/08/17/2023-again-el-rufai-insists-on-south-producing-buharis-successor/

Seunmsg, those that were neck deep in the politics of 1999 are telling everyone that the presidential ticket.

I will rather believe the report of a federal minister and a current governor, than the your, born out of the typical Tinubu shenanigans. El-Rufai is spot on. 1999 presidential slots were microzoned to the SW.

LegendHero:
You are 100% correct in this assertion. That is exactly why we have cancelled out Igbo votes in the permutation. Mind you, with IPOB issue going on and the campaign against elections, I doubt the SE will record any vote number that will make muc difference


Did Buhari contested in PDP? That is the main thing. The same Igbos that can't give Ojukwu their son their majority vote is who you are talking here.


Lol, Tinubu will win Atiku in an election as it stands currently under the present political climate and Fulani herdsmen rhetorics. Who are the Igbos that we can't dare? We have dared you multiple times and you guys are nothing! Why did you not help your candidate win elections in 1993, 2015, and 2019 if truly you constitute 25% voting bloc in most states? Why haven't you being able to change Lagos election since 1999 if you have the numbers? As it stands today, I fear SS more in terms of vote than I fear SE. We can dare SE and nothing will happen.


Whether they choose Tinubu or Osinbajo, they will emerge. The main hurdle for Tinubu now is just the choice of vice and the religious question. That is the only thing I am seeing handicapping Tinubu.

The same Tinubu that couldn't do a thing in Edo state.

Anyway, Igbo-supported candidates won the 1999, 2003, 2007. 2011 elections. And if GEJ hadn't been lilly-livered, would have won the 2015 presidential election by ensuring that the millions of under-aged voters in the north, who voted for Buhari, were punished and their votes, invalidated.

Atiku is not the only northern option. You have Tambuwal and the former governor of Kano state. Tinubu will go nowhere, and you think the SS will vote for someone that undermined their son? Tinubu will definitely loose the SS and SE, and the north will be more likely to vote for their PDP son, instead of Tinubu.

Tinubu is about to find out that his type of subterfuge is an elementary one. Edo people showed him that he is a nobody, outside the SW.

seunmsg:
So, why did people like Ekwueme and Graham Douglas contested the primary? What would have happened if Ekwueme had won the primary?

Anyway, most reasonable Nigerians who are not paid to misinform others know the truth so no point arguing against the agenda you’re trying to push. You’re free to push whatever narrative that pays your bills so no qualm. However, the fact that PDP did not microzone its ticket to the south west is a fact of history that can’t be changed.

It was micro-zoned to the SW, but people like Ekwueme and Graham Douglas still ran, because their zones even had greater claims to that presidency than OBJ's. The reason being that the only Igbo man to hold he executive powers in Nigeria was Ironsi and he was there for just six months and he governed in the 1960s. Around that time, the SS had never seen the presidency.

Compare this to the fact that OBJ governed for a number of years in the 70s and Shonekan presided for a number of months in the 90s. So basically the SE and SS had greater claims for consideration than the SW in the 1999 presidential politicking.

Abubakar Rimi may have contested in the primaries also, and this was simply because it wasn't against the constitution for qualified individual to seek the presidency of Nigeria, provided you haven't done two tenures as the president.

In APP, Ogbonnaya Onu who was the candidate of the bigger party in the coalition, had to step down for the Yoruba candidate in smaller AD, because the ticket was also micro-zoned to the SW.

So basically the two major parties in that election microzoned to the SW

LegendHero:
See even if the SW field Akeredolu, we know the Igbos will never vote him coz they always give bloc vote to PDP now considering the fact that they might have the VP slot. We will not be deceived.

I prefer Tinubu to Akeredolu because when you talk of National reach, Tinubu is not Akeredolu’s mate and Tinubu is well accepted in the North compared to Akeredolu. To win the election, you will need some votes from the North so alliance is key.

Any Yoruba that banks on Igbo vote is a foolish politician and I’m sure the APC deciders know this fact. In this games it’s better to court the North than the SE if a Yoruba emerges presidential flag bearer of APC.

Personally my preferred candidate is Fashola, but I am sure anyone of Tinubu or Osinbajo have better success rate against Atiku or anybody PDP fields.

I can assure you that if Tinubu emerges the APC candidate, Igbos will vote for any northerner that PDP brings up, that is if they don't choose to boycott the election.

In the past Buhari chose Igbo VP candidates, but that did not make Igbos vote for him, so I believe you have miscalculated Igbos.

Let APC try and choose Tinubu as their presidential candidate. I will guarantee you that a Fulani will be returned as the president of Nigeria. Don't think you can dare Igbos. Igbos are usually the second most populous ethnic group in many states of the nation, so any PDP candidate that Igbos want, will definitely make the 25% required votes in most states.
It will be Tinubu's SW against the SE, SS and north whose son will be the presidential candidate. Tinubu will go nowhere. I can assure you of that.

It is only when APC chooses someone from the south other than Tinubu, will a southern president emerge from APC.

seunmsg:
Is anybody stoping Rochas, Onu and other interested politicians of Igbo ethnicity from contesting for APC ticket?

As far as APC is concerned, the presidential ticket will be zoned to the south and all interested southerners will contest for the ticket. We don’t care if it is Jonathan, Osinbajo, Tinubu, Rochas, Onu, Amaechi or even Fayemi. We are going to ensure that a southerner emerge as the party’s presidential candidate.

In the same vein, we expect those of you from the south that supports PDP to push for the same agenda. Push for Peter Obi, Ekweremadu, Makinde, Wike etc to contest for the party’s ticket. PDP is very strong in south east and south south, it shouldn’t be too difficult to push for the party’s presidential candidate to come from the south. Do your bit and let others do theirs.

For APC, I think your writeup will be a little palatable, if you replace Tinubu with Akeredolu as a potential APC presidential candidate. If Igbos and much of SS will ever vote in, a SW president in 2023, Akeredolu's name should be all over the place.

People like Prof Muoghalu, Pat Utomi, GEJ, AfDB's Adesina, Festus Odimegwu, Sowore should be wildcards that can be deployed, when the political game shifts ground in a way that doesn't favour the obvious party men that you mentioned.

At the moment, the SE will rather vote for Uzodinjo or a Fulani as the Nigerian president, than for Tinubu or Wike. And in this journey, the whole south has to be united

paramakina202:
Jubril Al Sudani aka Buhari was in Owerri were ESN is strongest yet they couldn't remove his mask and expose him for the world to see the real impostor impersonating late Bughari. ;DThey hide under their beds until Buhari left.Bunch of cowards that are self annihilating their own people to take political control of Igboland through the back door at the cost of precious blood of Igbos.
Nnamdi Kanu's Kingdom of Biafra shall never come..........Iseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

But ESN forced him to wear one ridiculous pair of trousers in Owerri.

And btw, ESN is not really strongest in Imo. The Anambra or Abia command will definitely be more powerful than the Imo command. It is just that the Supreme court administrator of Imo is colluding with the Fulani security forces to keep attacking the Imo command.