1025:

@Ojukwu_rsg,
what we have is democracy and freedom of speech is part of it. we are handicapped in fighting a physical war with the ruling cabals hence we resorted to using our internet. are u here to be a storm to this only chance we have to atleast share our opinions?
before the taking of the ddc machines, a whole lots of shits have been going on and they include;

an electorial review panel was formed to find ways of improving our electorial system that has gone down beyond a movie magic. two of their recommendations include; having elections concluded at least six months before hand over to ensure that the agrieved parties sort our themselves in the courts before swear in propare. this is to avoid the situation in delta and osun states where govs were sacked after 3yrs and six months in office. remember, if uduaghan happens to win in delta again, he will be running for another 8 yrs because the one he did is not counted. remember, if after 3 yrs six months a gov is sacked, he is as good as a 4 yrs gov.
the number 2 recommendation of this committer is that the inec chairman be appointed by the national assembly instead of the president to ensure independence and a repeat of mourice iwu/obasanjo useless elections.
uncle these two major remmendations were overlooked.
now tell me, how will a buhari fight a sitting president in a court where the judges are appointed by the same sitting president?
all these are straws but not the last straws to the credible elections according to your undstanding.
in our voters' register, observers are saying sarah palin in there, yes, a straw but not the last one.
what folks are saying here is that nothing has changed as our president has been saying. the same movements here and there.
now that 20+ machines are missing from the airport and 16 have been released, in other countries just like u mentioned, what will happen? those behind this will be made known to the public and punishments will be dished out for bringing national shame.
are u not aware that the same thing happened in 2007 when the late adedibu took six machines belonging to inec and kept in his own house? what happened to him? nothing.
wether we like it or not, jonathan is not in charge. those criminal minded old fools that run pdp as their private companies are just remote controlling jonathan to their taste. what we have and will have in 2011 if jonathan wins is nothing but A GLORIFIED THIRD TERM AGENDA.

True, and well articulated. I am aware of all that u have stated. But what I don't understand is how despondency will solve the problem (especially since they are brazen as you noted.) You see, what we have here are people venting their anger and frustration at the system and scheme of things. Sir, no serious minded politician will pay head to some of the rants on these board. Nigerians have talked for long, and expressed their opinions on so many things online, however not much has been achieved. I am not saying that pple shld stop expressing their desire for change. I personally would love a lot to change in my dearly beloved country - Nigeria, but I would not give in to despondency. Despondency is contagious, it is like a disease spreading from one mind to the other via spoken (written) words. We must have optimism, and hope, and encourage ourselves. We shld desist from spreading fear, and panic.

Nigeria will be better!

dialiyke:

Txs Ojukwu,

I must say that its not just about criticisms,  This is the era of technology peeps. A stolen phone can be killed by reporting to the manufacturer using the IMEI number,  We can as well advise that Zinox inform the manufacturers to disable the machines stolen and quit rambling and lambasting our politicians whom i believe 90% of us will be worse than if they get an opportunity!!!

You are welcome dialyke,

I dont understand why pple go so hard on themselves here whenever something 'bad' happens. No country is perfect. Criticism help people (government) to get better, but I dont support resigning to fate.  We could proper solutions while criticizing.

Agreed some DCC machines were stolen. Is that the final straw on credible election? No way?

What is the way forward?

This is the sort of discourse I expect from intelligentsia, not the 'market women' rambles of doom and gloom that has become the unfortunate trademark of many here.

Cheers.

It is one thing to steal a data capture machine, it another thing to use it to rig election.

Data captured by the DDC data capture machine has to be stored in a database (possibly centralized). Secondly voter's will need to be verified before the actual voting. And in case of dispute, the finger print (or other biometrics) can always be matched against captured data.

My point is that stealing DCC machine may have little impact or no impact on the elections proper if voters defend the votes.

Hamid O:

You are a big fool for generalizing. The fact that you probably have heard some bad experiences here doesn't mean everyone is a pessimists.

Those who the cap fits, should gracefully wear it. It was not a generalization, that is why I mentioned the perpetrators and their backside kissers. There are good people here (positive minded people, decent guys, great Nigerians). However, these kind of people are being crowded out by what someone above me called "low-lives".  

But like I said, those who dwell in pessimism are mostly likely to be engulfed by pessimism and sadness. And those who raise their necks, and shoulders above the fray, will be lifted up at least by their own tongue.

* As a man thinks (in his heart), so he is
* Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
* We are transformed by the renewing of our minds
* We are the architect of our own destiny.

Those who can related with the above should give it a try, and those who continue to blame everyone, and everything (except themselves) for their woes, should keep it up. Those who will feel fulfilled by attacking or calling me names, should continue. It changes, affects, NOTHING!

Destructive criticisms? That is an understatement!
Nairaland is land of pessimists, losers, hopeless people, and people with incredible amount of low self esteem about themselves and their country?
You see these characteristic ooze from several of the moderators, urged on by their mindless praise singers. People actually get star status here on the basis of hopelessly they emit. Imagine!

If you are not mentally strong, stay away from several sections of Nairaland. You just might be infected with hopelessness.


Cheers.

PS:
Nigeria is our only country, our positives thoughts (and words) will make it better, and hopeless assessment mostly resides with the assessor(s).

Cheers.

Congrats to 9ja @ 50. I am so proud of my hardworking countrymen and women. Go Naija!

GNBohr:

If Nsofor, a six-coach reject is on that list then CAF has stripped the award of the remaining credibility it still struggle to possess.

Nsofor could not meet standard of Inter Milan as set by four successive coaches including Roberto Mancini, Jose Mourinho, Rafael Benitez. He was always playing on loan at clubs that did not think twice to send him back to Inter at the end of the loan spell. He could not pin a shirt at his last loan spell in Malaga now he is at another loan spell in Westham.

Adebayor who is now relegated to the bench at star studded Man City is also on the least, to imagine Boughera is there too.

Well, it only go to confirm that Africa has no players to reckon with. Very shameful indeed. The fact that the it is going to be another straight fight between Drogba and Eto'o is a pointer that football is dying in Africa and already in a state of coma in Nigeria.

Very depressing comment. Try this for effect.



If Nsofor, a six-coach reject is on that list, then CAF has is seeing something they did not.

Nsofor could not meet standard of Inter Milan as set by four successive coaches including Roberto Mancini, Jose Mourinho, Rafael Benitez. He was always playing on loan at clubs that did not think twice to send him back to Inter at the end of the loan spell. He could not pin a shirt at his last loan spell in Malaga, but now even though he is at another loan spell in Westham, he has become a force to reckon with. The English premier league suits his game style.

Adebayor the arrow head of the Togolese attack, who now has to fight for shirt in the star studded Man City is also on the list, so also is Boughera is there.

Well, it only goes to confirm that Africa players have upped their game. Very promising indeed. This time around it is not going to be another straight fight between Drogba and Eto'o, as other players will fight them all the way for it. This is a pointer that football is rising in Africa and already Nigerian players are starting to come back to reckoning.

How about that sir, 'your words' with a little positives.

The glass, sir, is half - full.

eewule:

I have just checked, and Nigeria Ranks 43rd worst - AT POSITION 130 (see link attached) in the Global Corruption Index,    So we are actually not really that corrupt compared to other countries - even Russia is far more corrupt than Nigeria.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table

Unfortunately pessimists are not interested in that, they are just okay with the fact the we (Nigerian) are the most corrupt. Many people do not bother to verify facts here. And that my friend is a sad commentary of many Nigerian within and outside this forum. This attitude of they are bad, we are worse needs to be changed. Nigeria is not the most corrupt. Nuff said!

Our consistent or persistent ranking on the global corruption index testifies to this

Whatever he meant by that.

In reality, Nigeria has long moved away from the most corrupt, and making gradual progress.

Anyone who take seriously to the CPI (Corruption Perception Index) should also note the following criticism of it:

Criticism

The Corruption Perceptions Index has drawn increasing criticism in the decade since its launch, leading to calls for the index to be abandoned.[6][7][8] This criticism has been directed at the quality of the Index itself, and the lack of actionable insights created from a simple country ranking.[9][10] Because corruption is willfully hidden, it is impossible to measure directly; instead proxies for corruption are used. The CPI uses an eclectic mix of third-party surveys to sample public perceptions of corruption through a variety of questions, ranging from "Do you trust the government?" to "Is corruption a big problem in your country?"

The use of third-party survey data is a source of criticism. The data can vary widely in methodology and completeness from country to country. The methodology of the Index itself changes from year to year, thus making even basic better-or-worse comparisons difficult. Media outlets, meanwhile, frequently use the raw numbers as a yardstick for government performance, without clarifying what the numbers mean.

The lack of standardization and precision in these surveys is cause for concern. The authors of the CPI argue that averaging enough survey data will solve this; others argue that aggregating imprecise data only masks these flaws without addressing them.[11] In one case, a local Transparency International chapter disowned the index results after a change in methodology caused a country's scores to increase—media reported it as an "improvement".[12] Other critics point out that definitional problems with the term "corruption" makes the tool problematic for social science.

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=corruption+index&gwp=13

In other word, corruption is as big as we (Nigerians) make it look. Or put in another way, the world will see us as we see our self. If we see ourselves (leaders, followers, institutions, etc) as a thief (or corrupt), as expect the world to see you as such.

My candid advise is that issues of corruption should be treated on case by case basis, not on a blanket basis. If Mr ABCD embezzles money, deal with my ABCD (don't castigate his tribe, colleagues, or associate), and put his crime in perspective (qualitative and quantitative). Short of violent revolutions as many are proposing, only when we begin to see, and talk changes, can changes really take place.

"We are transformed by the renewing of our mind"

1. Pessimists who hold forte in Nairaland.
2. Hopeless people who believe nothing good will come out of Nigerian
3. Clowns who join in the Nigeria bashing bandwagon
4. Nigerians who paint the fellow Nigerians bads (without justification or evidence),
  and only to turn around and say the world paints them bad
5. Nigerians who rejoice in ill fate of fellow NIgerians
6. Nigerians who will not help a fellow Nigerian simply because he is a 'Nigerian'
7. Nigerians who accuse 'all' member or our youth team as over-age (without evidence)

The above and many more about Nigerians make me cringe.

Nigeria will outlive them, a little positives from us in what is required.

zenus:

Why not Stick to topic

Did you?

Sagamite:

Don't take the piss, Ojukwu . . . .

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You are not in my league. 

Now you are beginning to make sense. It is very true I am not in your league for obvious reason.
How can I join league with people of your ilk?

Sagamite:

slowpoke, I should get what? LWKMD 

Don't go there dimwit. Me and you no dey for the same o catego!

When you see the name Sagamite, never in YOUR MISERABLE LIFE, ever allude to some kind of intellectual superiority again. YOU HEAR ME?

It appears you don't frequent NL that much that is why your moronic arse took the wrong road.

I suggest you go through my old post (pick any month at random since I have joined, ANY ONE) and take some tutorials on logical reasoning and sagacity that I have dished out. 

Once you do that, all this your moronic allusion of intellect will fade as your liver will fail you instantly as you stare in awe when you realise the calibre of the intellect you accidentally jammed. [Chei, see dust on my shoulder o. Make I brush off]

And don't let us go outside NL. You will start kissing my feet! Foooool.

By the way, you are not trying to deny anymore you were referring to me when you joined the thread.  Mugu!

This megalomaniac lowlife actually expect me to go through the craps and pieces of junks he had wasted his entire life posting in nairaland, lol. So you think I am as jobless as you? Wonders they say know no bounds.

Sagamite:

You are a dimwitted Isi Ewu!!!

So you are claiming it is not me you were referring to? Retard!

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-511986.32.html#msg6747599

slowpoke! Stop using ediotic platitudes!

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Piss off!

What is the difference between slowpoke, dimwit, retard, cretin, daft, fool?
If repeatedly calling different people with opposing view same (or variant of same) word is acme of intellectual acumen. Then intellect must certainly have taken a serious nose dive. I would want no part of it.

My point is that you are a pretender. Get a little education Sir Sagamite! Cyber thuggery is fast getting out fashion!

Sagamite:

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You came to have a "challenging discourse"?

Foool!!! That is why you came in and insulted me.

You better piss off, slowpoke! There is only one irrefutable outcome if you ever engage me intellectually: Your thumping!

You are way below my league intellectually.

Who insulted you? I responded to a post (not yours) and made a general comment about people laughing a pictures. Were you the only one laughing at the girls? Why do you think I'll pick on you? Just who the heck are you? You are just another cyber character as far as I am concerned. You obviously thought the cap fits you, you wore it,  and then decided to insult me. Now you turn around to claim I insulted you.

My friend, go and get a life. You are too full of yourself. Empty barrels make the most noise!
Nonsense!

Sagamite:

Another moronic conjecture!

Or wait . . . . .

Is it just "Another slowpoke". 

I took the bait hoping for a challenging discourse. However since we started, I noticed that your repertoire of vocabulary is laced with different versions of the word 'slowpoke'. It is either it's a new word to you, or your have very limited knowledge/grasp of the language, or a combination of both. Now that is a serious shame.

Whichever way, bantering with someone who only know the word (or variants of the word) [b]slowpoke [/b]is a serious disincentive. Since I would not want to kill an ant with a sledge hammer, I would allow you to continue to hopelessly wallow in your 'superior intelligent' stupor.

Good day/nght!

My very 'intelligent' friend doesn't even know when someone is laughing at his 'intelligent' display.
Won-der-ful!

Sagamite:

F Lawd!

slowpoke, you just did not go there?

Tell me yadidn't!

You just did not go there didya?

Foool, you are not a quarter as intelligent as I am when I am sleeping and my brain is recharging.

What logic have you put in the falderal I quoted, dimwit? What further observation do you require to know if some grown-arse looking women are U-17 or not from a country that YOU know obviously cheats at will, slowpoke?

You daft arse is as unprincipled as the twats you listed, denying the obvious in the name of "national glory/pride", you[b] gimp[/b]!

Pull you down? How the fck am I going to do that when you are on the floor and I am high in the skies? Fooool!

When it comes to intelligence, asinine goat, you don't know . . . . .

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Ffed up mentality, self-deluding foooool!

I have seen (highlighted) all the evidences of your superior intelligence, and logic. To say forumers even gives you a pat on the back for this level performance say so much about the kind of people that surround you.

I checked your profile, and I saw the title 'moderators' (sic) and I now I begin to wonder how low this forum has sunk. Why this sort of 'superior intelligence' loose cannons are running all over the place with such exalted privilege. I now know why. Some of these kind of people have made Nairaland their nation, and are like sit-tight governors/political office holders (the same people they antagonise daily.) Take away this privilege and they may soon find out that they have no other life. So they hold on tight to what they have, and see dissenting views as a threat. I come not friend to steal your positions!

By the way, those without national pride are often wrapped in national disgrace.The last time I checked, that company is dwindling. A few hopeless people would soon find themselves isolated. Now my friend of very superior intelligence, go and play with or bully your mates (or get your brain recharged as you yearn).  I don't mostly tango with glorified cyber thugs.

honeric01:

@semid4lyfe
Especially that Biodun, Abiodun the number 4 i think, that woman should be in her 30s.

Look at it this way:

How can someone use Honeric01 as a log in a name. I think he must be a scammer.

That is what you just said. Why can't we find out the 'facts' or shut our traps instead of assuming.

Sagamite:

slowpoke . . . .

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You find hope in the midst of fraud and dishonesty? You need a lobotomy!

Great countries are providing inspirational people to drive the populace to greatness, you are in praise of blatant, over-the-top (not even subtle) cheats and call them "brave"?

Sick Sick Sick pathetic mentality.

And you will wonder why you have people like Alao Akala and Chris Uba as leaders!

Aside from endemic hopelessness, slowpokes and ignoramus have a few other characteristics in common. They are often quick to open their mouths and blab about what they know little or nothing of. They are quick judge people on the basis of little information, and draw para-logical conclusions (which often includes writing off the whole). They tend to believe that they are very intelligent and are always right. They are alas often stuck with observations and conclusions reached several decades ago (learning is often a problem). Those who don't agree with their myopia are openly intimidated, bullied to submission or assaulted.To them everyone is bad (perhaps because of their own perfidious nature). They are often hopeless drifters, and never see any good in others. They are quick to associate/compare other people with their little minded, less illustrious mentors and fellow voyagers (e.g Alao Akala, Adedidu, Chris Uba, ibori) You will never see people in this group praise hardworking people like (Fashola, Osaze, Siasia).  They are often times failures in real live, hence their quickness to undermine successful people, with their powerful gift of PHD (Pull Him Down).

These are the kind of people my mother (of blessed memory) warned me not to associate with.

princekevo:

Becoz Nigeria has become so bad that even many Nigerians believe nothing good could ever come out of it.
And you see this same group of people with such mentality fighting when they are being address as a 419ner, criminals by other people. The believe that every Nigerian player cheats on their age,mostly when they performed better, but if foreigner calls them scammers or a cheats based on their believe that Nigerians are cheats and scammers they gets angry, even might want to fight. Their next arguement will be, that Nigeria is bad does not mean there are not good once. That is to tell you they are the only good and perfect once in Nigeria no matter how bad Nigeria is.

Abegi, Congratulations to my super falconet babes, what the super chicken couldnt do, they are doing it.

Thanks man, posts like this give hope.
When we sell our compatriots and nation cheaply (like some clowns that are laughing at the pictures of the brave ladies), we invariably sell ourselves cheaply.  We better wake up from such myopia and look at the bigger picture.

Nigeria is not sick, nor are we a nation of cheats. A few hopeless people who want to infect others with their hopelessness are often times the ambassadors of this fallacy of hasty generalisation.

Much ado about kissing. Anyway, since we (9ja) men can 9ja kiss. Why should we French kiss?