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Zelensky calls on Putin to negotiate
More now from President Volodymyr Zelensky's latest address in the past hour.

Having praised the bravery of Ukrainian troops, Zelensky switches to Russian and issues a direct appeal to Vladimir Putin, calling on him to enter negotiations with his government.

"I would like to address the president of the Russian Federation once again," Zelensky says.

"Fighting is ongoing across all of Ukraine's territory. Let's sit down at the negotiating table to stop the killing of people."

SOURCE: www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60517447?iorg_service_id_internal=624173547714020%3BAfqKRERY3mZh3Sxp

Cozbymaster97:
Russia I shake my head for una!
Country about to collapse
Remaining SWIFT ban

I will love it if the US remove Russia from SWIFT.

Russia will continue to trading, whether she is removed from SWIFT or not. She has created her own payment system. They call it MIR. Several countries have already plugged in to this payment system.

The MIR system was introduced in Armenia and South Ossetia in 2018, and in 2019 it was introduced in Abkhazia, Turkey, and Uzbekistan. In 2021, MIR was launched in United Arab Emirates. Bulgaria and Thailand are expected to follow, according to Central Bank of Russia. It was also being tested in the UK and in South Korea.

So any country that want to do business with Russia will has to use the Russian made payment systems.


Although in a short term, if Russia is unplugged from SWIFT, it will affect her economy negatively. But in a long term, we will end up having two, three or more payment systems. The Chinese will definitely create their own too.

You are a good writer. I love your write up.

If Russia survive the sanctions that have been imposed and the ones that are yet to be imposed. The US & it's allies will loose the economic power, they have over Russia totally. They want to fire their last bullet and if Russia survive it. It will be a loss for the US & it's allies.

They need to think carefully before firing that last bullet.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
indeed..

When the dissolution of the Soviet Union occured. Russia became very poor. It's economy was weak. It's military was in a bad shape. The only thing Russia had was it's nuclear arsenal.

Putin came and turn things around for Russia.

You read up on the post USSR.

sotall:


At the end, Russia will be decimated and made to start afresh .

This is how this ends

Russia is going to be fine.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Let's see how it goes for Russia..
Very violent and sick dictator who's bent on destroying the world..

Was this not how Adolf started his nonsense.. something similar..
Modified:who are the buzzos saying Russia is fighting for a reason..what nonsense old territory is he fighting to get back..


Putin is an abject failure as “president” of Russia. In reality he’s a dictator who frankly has utterly failed to deliver. Russia’s economy sucks, their government is ruled by a criminal junta under Putin’s command, and Putin owes much to the petrochemical oligarchs who, in reality, control the economy.

Russia has continued to slip more and more under Putin every year. Putin NEEDS a win. His control demands respect, and he’s getting less of that every year in Russia. Putin thinks if he can rebrand himself as some sort of “Russia builder” that he can improve his image. That’s about it. Russia doesn’t NEED Ukraine, it’s all about his image...
He's just being scared of NATO..he does not want a future NATO country on his border..very weird guy..
To all his babyish nairaland supporters..will you prefer to be ruled by Putin or Biden..or do you prefer Russia to USA if you get the chance?

Russia rose from grass to grace under Putin. Russia experience massive development under Putin. Russia was economical and militarily dead before Putin came on board.

You can call him a dictator. But not a failure.

God1000:
I hope Russia will survive this because things are going to get very ugly for Putin.

Joe biden asked, who in the lord's name does Putin think gives him the right to declare new so-called countries on territory that belonged to its neighbours, this is a flagrant violation of international law and it demands a firm response from the international community

Russia is fully prepared for this. But truth be told, the sanctions will negatively affect Russia in a short term. She will survive it.

Infact to the West it is an experiment. Sanctions of this magnitude have never been placed on a country that it's economy is as big as Russia.

Russia already has alternative for the Nord Stream II. Pipeline from Russia to China is being constructed.

Also it has alternative for the swift system. Russia has created it own payment system. So in a short term, it will be a problem for her. But in a long term, we end up having two payment systems.

Russian dependence on dollar has been reduced from 40% to 16%.

In my view Russia will come out strong, and if this happens the West will no longer be able to sanction Russia.

yungmill:
No shits Sherlock from wish!
I guess you are the teacher fela sang about! can't name one successful communist country, doesn't know china isn't "communist" in actual practice anymore, spreads communist propaganda for the failure of communism, i guess it was propaganda that created food shortages and scarcity in the soviet union, i guess it was the usa that made mao and co eliminate millions of his people and stalin disposing of his own people, i guess its the usa that made china implement SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE and imprison UGYOR muslims? I guess its the usa that broke up Yugoslavia not the deficiency of communism.

Lastly why ain't you in venezuela a true marxist state? Is marxism no longer eldorado?. Funny how i shut you up with facts of the top of the dome which you can't counter but pull the usual ignoramus attack on my person but not my points, really clever Einstein from aba! I guess teacher sorry einstein from aba can tell us who sir otto von Bismarck is? Kaiser williams? What is or was prussia? What is ruanda? Who was sir Neville Chamberlain? Who are the Abyssinians? Where in the world is meroe? Who are the punites, cathage? Holstien? Hansiatic league? Please do tell us lord marxist Einstein from wish fela warned us about.

Neither capitalism nor democracy is the problem here. But the guardians of these ideologies are the problem. Invading a sovereign nation using false flag is undemocratic. Democracy didn't invade Iraq. It was Bush who invaded. Forcing democracy on sovereign nations using economic sanctions and military action is undemocratic.

Capitalism, Socialism & Socialism are brilliant idealogies in my view. But the guardians (the leaders) of these idealogies are the problem. They don't play by the book most times.

goodheart01:
That’s what they want u to believe that they’re behind. You think they’re stupid?? You think they occupy the position they hold now in the world by being petty?? If so u know nada

Bro! Some weapon can not be built in secrecy. Especially missiles. The moment you test it, then it's no longer a secret.

Great0ne1:
They are on donbas territory. Wonder why you guys are crying more than the bereaved. This is similar to ipob and nigeria government. Igbos don't want anything to do with nigeria. By right, every group of people has right to self determination. Go to social media and see how people of donbas region are celebrating and you will tell me who is the aggressor here

Using the example you gave. Imagine if Cameroon decides to deploy it's troops into Biafran territory to help the Biafrans. What do you think will hapen?

Great0ne1:
They are on donbas territory. Wonder why you guys are crying more than the bereaved. This is similar to ipob and nigeria government. Igbos don't want anything to do with nigeria. By right, every group of people has right to self determination. Go to social media and see how people of donbas region are celebrating and you will tell me who is the aggressor here

Whose territory is Donbas? Whose territory is Crimea?

Great0ne1:
So all the weapons and war machines been sent to them by nato members are for beautification of kyiv ? See let's stop deceiving our self's, Cuba was once an ally of Soviet union. This allowed Soviet union to mount there missiles on there soil(not american soil). What happened next ? America had a problem with that and accused Moscow of aggression. Well, for the time been, Russia has recognised donbas as a new nation. Ukraine and the west can continue with there romance

Well! I don't know what those weapons are for. Russian troops are now on Ukrainian territory, why is Ukraine not using the received weapons to push them back?

TabletMan:
They've met with Qatar and Japan about gas deal with Europe since last month.

Putin knows that US and UK are just forcing his hands to invade Ukraine.

Lol! The infrastructures to import gas from those countries you mentioned are not on ground.

Russia is the only country that can provide cheap natural gas to the Western European countries.

Great0ne1:
Ukraine is basically nato. But donbas will be the new line

Ukraine is not a NATO member and it will never be. Sooner or later, Zelenszky will drop the NATO membership ambition.

jaxxy:
Yes it not high but exists quite well. There are poor Chinese people.

Ok

showafrica:
Lol, you may be right. I don't trust Tinubu, he may leak Fulani ass to get to power and turn tiger on sit. He is likely to tear Nigeria apart na why Buhari no trust am.

Lol

jaxxy:
U are not saying anything new. China is battling poverty in certain areas and that’s a fact. Not everywhere is developed. Same with Russia. Leave all these stories.

Have you ever seen the video of poor people or homeless people in Russia?

China ones had high poverty rate. Bit not anymore.

jaxxy:
That’s why they are better than Russia bt their population just like India is overwhelming.

They are master of trade. Chinese products are everywhere (Africa, Europe,America,Australia). Their population is a blessing to them.

jaxxy:
U are not saying anything new. China is battling poverty in certain areas and that’s a fact. Not everywhere is developed. Same with Russia. Leave all these stories.

Well i dont know about that. I will find out. But don't forget that China is the biggest thing after US.

showafrica:
Putin should officially recognize Biafra at once and ipob will support his ambition. Any Super country who will help free small nation will start leading the world soon. USA has failed woefully and China is selfish. The world need a leader.

The Yorubas can do that for you here.

perdollar:
Hitler started wt land grabbing of areas outside Germany d Germans were present then he got greedy wanting some more. Putin occupied Crimea, fought Georgia and now helping d eastern Ukrainian rebels who r Russians. He WL graduate to emperor of d universe

No! Putin is smarter than that. Russia don't have that kind of military or economic capacity. The day the West cease expanding eastward, Russia will automatically be at peace with them.

gambojimeta:
Yeah. He just sacrificed Nordstream 2 just to grab land from Ukraine. That was a dumbass move but most dictators are usually dumbasses anyway.

The sanction at this stage will not be heavily. It won't include Nordstream II. Let's just wait till tomorrow. The sanctions will be released.

perdollar:
Putin reminds me of Hitler. He is defiant and thinks he WL nuke d world at worst! He forgot that the resolve of United Allies even in d face of defeat can b overwhelming. I hope he knows there r ppl within his country praying for his deposal n who r ready to bear arm and sabotage him. Putin WL end up like Hitler if he continues to do strong man

Putin and Hitler are not the same and they will never be. Hitler wanted to rule the world. Putin is not interested in rule the world.

The US is interested in ruling the world. You can compare the US with Hitler.

jaxxy:
Don’t be fooled there’s poverty in many parts of China.

Nigerian borrowed, the US also has debts it’s about ability to repay not the amount of debts.

China and Russia are as developed as the West. Most people don't even know that there are no homeless people in Russia..Russia is one of the most self reliance country in the world. They produce everything they need and export not only oil but also commercial planes as well as military planes, agricultural equipments, covid-19 vaccine (Spunik) e.t.c to name a few.

They have the highest number of underground rail network in europe. Moscow, ST Petersburg, Kazan & Sochi-(where they host olympic) are among the most beautiful cities in the world.

MALIGNANTGuest:
You are now the president of the United States.
U be EU.
Why not watch and see how things unfold..
Anything can happen...
American hasn't been showing its ballistics.
We may be surprised with bioterrorism from America.

This point is, US & NATO are not going to sacrifice their citizens for Ukraine. They will never allow the world to be destroy in a nuclear war because of Ukraine.

smallsmall:
Ukraine actually is doing the provocation!
It knows it cannot win a War with Russia but it is banking on NATO, though it is not a member.
Ukraine wants to use the support of NATO, Europe and USA, to get more weapons from them, to forcefully take-back the Donbass region and hopefully be in line to join NATO soon.

But it will end in tears for Ukraine because American support is not without drawback and pain.
America just needs a staging point for its Missiles to point at Russia, a close one for that matter but Ukraine wants to turn itself to a War Zone because Russia will also be ready to eraze Ukraine, and even sieze, before America can make it a Military Base.
For Russia, Ukrain is becoming an existential threat and with that, nothing is off the table, even a Nuclear War

I disagree with your 1st point. The so called lethal weapon the West has been delivering to Ukraine is not going to change the balance of power between Russia and Ukraine. Zelenszky knows this. To deter Russia. Ukraine needs advance fighter jets, helicopter and defense systems. But they can afford them.

Ukraine was banking on the US, NATO & EU to use whatever necessary methods to deter Russia & may be pressure them to admit Ukraine in NATO.

foleskay:
Wait till russia enters ukrain now or maybe burn it. Forget it the west will hit russia in an unprecedented manner. They re still playing waiting game. Russia knows watsapp..that's why its beating around d bush. Russia dares not invade Ukraine mark my word.

You can not use a military action on a Nuclear state. It will result into a world war. NATO or US is not going to start a world war because of Ukraine. It is not going to happen. The only weapon they can use is sanctions.

Masterito:
Do you know you are a clown? How is Syria better than Libya? Lol, do you understand the level of destruction in Syria? Syria is still at war up till now. Get sense o.

Well! With the help of Russia. Al-ashaad is now in control of about 75% of Syrian territory. The 75% under the control of the Syrian government is not experiencing any bombing or attack from ISIS or the rebels, that part of Syria is secured 100%.

Kindly verified!

foleskay:
Russia can't dare invade Russia.. Dem go hear am. No country will join him in the war. It will feel isolated just like Nazi Germany in d second world war. NATO will burn russia to ashes believe me. NATO no be anybody mate for this world.

Lol! People say if Russia dares enter Ukrainian territory. NATO will burn Russia into ashes. Now Russian troops have been ordered into Ukrainian territory. When exactly will NATO burn Russia to ashes?

Now that Russian lightly armed troops (peace keepers) have been ordered to enter Donbas.

Two scenarios will likely play out in the coming days.

The West will likely impose light sanctions on Russia & Donbas itself. If this happens. Russia will not launch full scale invasion, she will likely keep the pressure on Ukraine. This will further deteriorate Ukrainian economy. At some point Ukraine will likely drop NATO membership ambition for peace and to avoid implosion.

Or the West will impose the harsh economic sanctions on Russia. This is unlikely, as it may likely trigger full invasion, because Russia will have nothing to loose.

Whatever happens Putin will get what it wants.