₦airaland Forum

Kukutenla:
This is a lie. The boy never offered to sell his kidney. If you have evidence of any payment made to him, let us know. They offered to take him to UK which was his dream. That was the reason he agreed to the kidney thing.
It's unfortunate how Nigerians are spreading lies about a poor guy in defence of his oppressors!!

The Nigerians rushing to reverse the roles of perpetrator and victim here are the same ones who will then turn around and lament about the "wickedness" of their ruling elites, as if they weren't the people empowering these same elites to engage in "wickedness". The truth is that Nigeria's corrupt and feckless elites are drawn from the masses they exploit, which is why they have a similar mindset - they are only outraged by injustice to the extent they aren't the ones being allowed to perpetrate it on others.

ariesbull:
this one even took his madness higher....abeg can you sumeriise this ...I can't read long thrash abeg

It's not my job to create summaries for lazy semi-literates.

ruggedtimi:
who tell u say The monarch for UK na ceremonial...there is what is called a Royal Pardon

Every aspect of the British government is "royal" - "His Majesty's Government", "The Royal Courts", "The Royal Treasury", etc. That doesn't mean the actual reigning monarch has any say in how they are run day-to-day.

This is pure delusional wishful thinking. Charles is a figurehead monarch, with little influence on the daily business of government. In addition, even if he did have any power to intervene, the last thing Charles would be wanting to do is endanger his throne by subverting the course of justice for the sake of some crooked African politician with no respect for the lives of others, given the already substantial British indifference to the monarchy as an institution.

mrvitalis:
Lmfao you forgot he got 45 averagely from South east ....have anyone from South east gotten that in South west ?

Look at this semi-literate pretending not to notice a crucial point I raised - that even the "45 averagely" Abiola got in your region, which only netted him 1 victory in 4 states, was merely because Igbos had no tribal champion of their own to rally behind. Isn't that why the PDP's vote in your region collapsed as soon as Peter Obi went to the LP? Next thing you'll be claiming Obasanjo's victory over Falae in your region is "proof" of anything whatsoever, other than that you had no choice but to vote for a Yoruba man given the lack of options, so you and your kinsmen went overwhelmingly for the candidate you knew the Yorubas themselves liked the least.

You Yorubas just like things to be done for you n you only ,

The difference between you and I - apart from the fact that I seem to have 50 IQ points on you at a minimum - is that I don't leap from observing your obvious ignorance and tribal jaundice to making hasty generalizations about all Igbos based on your pathetic example. What is more, unlike you, I could easily point to concrete examples of Yorubas doing things for Igbos and being met with the most shameless ingratitude, from Fajuyi and Ironsi, to Banjo and Gowon, to Wole Soyinka's 2-year solitary confinement, or the shameless self-promotion of Arthur Nzeribe and his "Association for a Better Nigeria", or Daniel Kanu's "Youth Earnestly Ask for Abacha", or the opportunist Peter Obi's willing acceptance of an official appointment from the butcher Abacha, and on and on and on ... No doubt in your twisted mind, these are all the actions of a particularly selfless people.

ariesbull:
If we talk now dem go begin dey call Obi and IPOB

Mind you Bloomberg, Premium Times etc aren't Igbo

But before we get to 4 page one idiot will call Obi and leave corruption personification here

Who will bet ? Odds are high !

But Obi is guilty of exactly the same "sin" as Tinubu is accused of here - hiding his ownership of foreign assets behind shell corporations. Just like Tinubu, Obi used his child's name to front his ownership, except that Tinubu's son is an adult, while Obi had no shame pretending a child could have been the owner of millions in US dollars. To rub insult in the injury, Obi's financial manipulations also occurred while he was a sitting governor.

I know none of the above will stop you from pretending that Obi is in any way better than Tinubu, even though Obi himself admitted to what he had done, excusing it in the name of "tax avoidance". You can't claim with a straight face that Obi's actions are permissible while Tinubu's aren't, unless you're so blinded by tribalism you think anything goes if "na my kinsman wey do am". Either both's actions are kosher, or neither.

mrvitalis:
https://maxsiollun./2008/06/14/june-12-1993-election-full-results/

https://www.thecable.ng/flashback-full-result-controversial-june-12-93-election/amp

The first url you pasted is malformed - the actual link is

https://maxsiollun./2008/06/14/june-12-1993-election-full-results/

In any case, what the results listed on the correct page show is that Abiola won only 1 of the 4 states that then existed in the SE, hardly any different than Obi's sole victory in Lagos just this year - a victory which was only possible due to Yoruba votes, otherwise Rhodes-Vivour wouldn't have been trounced so thoroughly shortly thereafter.

Had Babangida allowed any number of parties to contest, rather than restricting the poll to 2 artificially creations of his own devising, and had an Igbo candidate emerged alongside Abiola and Tofa, I doubt even the single victory Abiola enjoyed in Anambra would have been possible. Witness by contrast the defeat Tofa suffered at Abiola's hands in his own home state of Kano.

greatiyk4u:
The era of continuous good news from Abia state has come

Not increased IGR news without any corresponding developments rather looting growth as we hear from
Ogun
Oyo
Lagos

Do you know Lagos state 1 year budget of 1.5Trn is equivalent to Anambra 6 years budget of 250M/yr?
Can same be said in developments witnessed among the 2 states?

A story about Abia, and your response is all about Oyo, Ogun and Lagos! If this obsession isn't manifestation of an inferiority complex, what is?

mrvitalis:
You can't find 1993 election results per states ?

That's a picture, which you could have cooked up in your spare time for all I know. Why not share the original link to the source, if you have one? Or do you assume all Nairalanders are so gullible they are willing to trust in unsourced JPEGs as trustworthy sources of information.

mrvitalis:
We have voted OBJ have abiola 46% vote what have yorubas done for Igbos

You keep making this claim again and again, yet I am unable to find a single reputable source online backing it. Care to provide us with some hard evidence for your assertion, or is this just something you made up to win yet another of your innumerable tribal battles?

bentenny:
Its alright to criminalise mob action or what we know as jungle justice....however,have we asked or investigated about genesis of mob action or what led to it in Nigeria?
One of the apparent reason is due to the complete breakdown of trust for the security operatives by the citizens!
The inaction of the security operatives to properly do their jobs effectively has led to citizens seeking self help just to protect them selves!

If you catch an armed robber or a cultist or kidnapper and as a law abiding citizen,you hand them to the police,in 24 hours that criminal will be released by 'powers from above' and they will start looking for those who handed them over to the police!
Most times,it gets fatal!

Hence,as there is a bill to criminalise jungle justice,there must always be a bill to ensure that policing becomes state and local based which we all refer to as state and LGA policing!
This will ensure that policing is decentralized and states/LGAs will be in control of their own security!

Agreed - the temptation to resort to lynching would be nowhere as strong if the country had effective, accountable local policing. Any bill of this sort can only be an ineffective attempt to treat the symptom rather than the disease, as it will do nothing to change the failed policing at the root of the problem.

tito44:
Seun Mynd44 Dominique justwise nlfpmod oam4j nlfpmod
Rule 3

Stop being ridiculous - where's the slur in a simple statement of an indisputable fact? Are we all supposed to pretend not to notice the origins of these criminals simply to spare your feelings? I bet you have no problem doing far worse when it comes to any matters related to APC, Tinubu, Lagos, etc.

Harryeme:
The main issue with many Nigerians is that they tend to read or listen only for the purpose of responding. It is important to understand the distinction between lawful assembly, which encompasses peaceful protests, and unlawful assembly, which refers to riots and the disruption of public order. The speaker is specifically referring to the latter, which can cause significant harm to a community. While protesting is a fundamental right for Nigerians, it must be done in a manner that is in accordance with the law to be considered lawful.

It doesn't seem that the bill is even about that - it's stated intent is about dealing with the Nigerian penchant for "jungle justice", i.e. angry mobs decided to act as judge, jury and executioner for random passers-by on the basis of flimsy rumors or gossip. Some people on here seem so bent on seeing "evidence" of APC "oppression" that they are willing to side with angry mobs putting tires on (often entirely innocent) people and setting them on fire.

There may or may not be problems with the bill in its current drafting, but determining that much will require careful reading and reasoned discussion, little of which has been on display in most of the responses on here.

DDGS:
Dont Mind Them!! why Not also protest against Buhari, can the CBN Governor take decisions alone??

Yes, he can. The position of the Central Bank Governor is statutorily protected from political interference by even the President. The only other officials who enjoy a similar immunity to Emefiele are the judges on the Supreme Court. Good luck finding another justification for excusing your incompetent "kinsman" of the blame he richly deserves.

Dreal1247:
Politically influenced violence. People are busy shouting President-elect where it is evidently clear that Yakubu has sold Nigeria to Tinubu, they are not protesting. What APC whose national leader Tinubu, the current purported President-elect, has done to Nigeria will take decades to repair. Yet he bought his way into President-elect. No one is protesting for that. And they are deceiving us with paid protesters. You can only deceive some people sometimes but you can never deceive all the people all the times.

The Tinubu you blame for "decades" of damage has never held national office as yet, while you absolve Emefiele, the CBN governor for the last 9 years, of all the wreckage his utterly inane policies have wrought? Was it Tinubu who forced Emefiele at gunpoint to introduce a currency change no one asked for and his own staff knew they weren't prepared for?

You are a textbook example of how tribalism rots the mind. It is thanks to tribal-warriors like you that utter failures of Emefiele's rank have managed to bring the country to its knees economically, secure as they are that there are hordes of bigoted drones like you eager to excuse and deflect their most manifest failings onto someone of another tribe or religion.

The blanket refusal by all the "Obidients" to condemn the indisputable incompetence and financial recklessness of Godwin Emefiele is all the evidence one needs that their claims to want "competence" in governance are all a bunch of lies. Emefiele is as blatant a case of incompetence as it is possible to imagine, so awful that The Economist was already lambasting him for it back in 2015, yet here we have all the same agitators for "competence" trying their pathetic best to shift the blame for the devastation he has wrecked on 200 million Nigerians to anyone else, even to a man whose highest public position was governor of a single state back in 2007. No honest person can pretend that all of this is motivated by anything other than tribalism, all the lofty rhetoric notwithstanding.

Sltp:
How can Buhari stop them when he's doing the most looting?

And your evidence is ... what exactly? It's because of clowns like you, with your penchant for making completely unsubstantiated accusations, that Buhari has managed to escape so much of the criticism he richly deserves for wasting 8 entire years doing almost nothing in Aso Rock. It's easier for Buhari diehards to dismiss all criticisms of the man when so much of what they hear is just slanderous noise like the one you've just made.

RepoMan007:
The reality is democracy has been hijacked with the help of monetized politics before the people get a chance at general polls.

This is what so many Nigerians fail to understand about why they get the quality of leadership they do. Nigerian politics has a systemic problem with how it is funded, a problem which has made corruption an unavoidable part of the formula for succeeding in the system right since the 1940s. This is why anyone hoping for a supposedly clean "messiah" to appear and save Nigerians from themselves is living in a pipe dream. It is simply impossible to get anywhere in Nigerian politics without engaging in substantial corruption.

The root of the problem is that Nigerian political parties aren't really funded by their memberships. In most other parts of the world, parties are funded primarily through the donations of individual party members, usually with strict limits on how much each member can contribute to any given contest. In Nigeria most party "members" are essentially alms seekers, hoping to land either a public sector "job", a padded contract or some other such benefit by helping some bigger fish to land a "juicy" post where he/she can then dole out favors to reward supporters - the idea of impoverished party members using their limited private funds to pay for campaigns is simply a non-starter. As such, political campaigns have to be funded in a different way, namely by either making promises to wealthy donors, or outright stealing the necessary funds directly from the public purse.

It's because of all the above that I laugh at anyone who sees Peter Obi, or anyone else who has been successful in Nigerian politics at the level of a governor or senator, as being a "clean" voice for "change" who will "sweep away" the entrenched corruption that has been part of Nigerian life at every level since the British started allowing "the natives" into the Nigerian civil service. Without strict, well-enforced limits on who can fund a party and with how much, Nigerian politics will never change, but all of Nigeria's political parties would immediately collapse if such limits were ever miraculously imposed.

RecentHistory:
Most of those insulting Umahi and talking down on Umahi are fellow Igbos.

The enemy of any Igbo man anywhere is another Igbo man.

No, in this particular case, the true enemy is the one who resorts to tribalism to defend the indefensible. What excuse can there be for suspending a journalist for doing his job by documenting the truth? And how can anyone defend squandering huge sums of money on an airport while leaving children so hungry they are eating leftovers on the tarmac? Do you not feel even the slightest empathy for those children? Don't you ever stop to think "There but for the grace of God go I"? Or maybe you think their suffering and deprivation will magically go away as long as nobody reports on it or criticizes the governor who allows it to fester, all in the name of "tribal solidarity".

lexy2014:
But you d one who sounds more frustrated. No matter how you try to call the man names, the pictures speaks a thousand words. No amount of insults can change that

Are you sure you've quoted the right person? I've never defended this abomination, I've been criticizing it and those trying to excuse it away.

lexy2014:
A very emotional response you provided there. Pls try again.

I find it funny that every issue no matter how genuine, is pushed aside and tribalism is often used to try to cover it up. Isn't it high time, many of you stop looking at things from a tribalistic point of view but a purely human point of view?

The truth is that they don't care in the slightest about the "kinsmen" they claim to be defending. Any decent human being with compassion would be shocked and angered by that image, but none of these tribal warriors give a damn, because in the end they only care about the image of their tribe in the eyes of others (and how that reflects badly on them in particular), not about the actual well-being of their supposed kinfolk.

legitnow1:
GO AND DISCUSS OYO AND EKITI AIRPORT.

I'm sure this dumb post of yours will feed, clothe and school those poor children we saw sitting on the tarmac, for whom you clearly feel no empathy whatsoever. That's the strange thing about tribal warriors like you, you only seem to "love" your tribe in the abstract, but are willing to tolerate any amount of suffering by your tribesmen if that is what you need to preserve your fragile self-esteem.

For what it's worth, I don't see any excuse for any state governments to be building airports, or other such high-profile projects, especially given that private-sector investors would do a better job of keeping costs in line and running the completed projects. The entire point of government should be to step in only where the private sector alone cannot carry the load, not to squander millions of dollars on facilities no one will use. This holds true whether we are talking of Oyo, Ekiti, Ebonyi or anywhere else, so there goes your ridiculous effort at excusing irresponsible governance.

legitnow1:
HEAD TO EBONYI STATE, YOUR TEARS IS NEEDED THERE.



NAIRALAND IS NOT EBONYI.

You're just another clown frustrated about having nothing to contribute to the discussion, and trying your pathetic best to derail it.

coputa:
Nigerians are hypocrite,we see this everyday, it's common at parties and social events.We should stop pretending, Nigeria is a poor underdeveloped country trying to find her feet.
It will gradually disappear with time,as the rate of poverty continue dropping.

First off, the rate of poverty hasn't "continued dropping" over the last 8 years, it has substantially increased. Second, one of the main reasons why this drop didn't occur, and isn't as guaranteed as you want to argue, is because so many Nigerian political leaders squander huge sums on white elephant projects like this airport, even as hungry children are left to eat leftovers on the pavement. What are the odds these starving children will be well educated enough to work as the software developers and chip-manufacturers of tomorrow, given such strange governmental priorities? Where will the money come from to bring them to that level?

Alpharey:
If you like, host this event in Abuja or Lagos, you will still see hungry children eating from the crumbs. No be Nigeria we dey again? Hunger dey this country walahi

That doesn't make seeing such sights somehow acceptable. The fact that so many people on here can wave away such a sight as "propaganda", or try to excuse it by saying "it happens everywhere" or "they were eating from paper plates" only goes to show how thoroughly Nigerians have internalized failed government and abject poverty as their rightful lot in life.

An over-emphasis on white-elephant capital projects at the expense of less flashy but more impactful programs has been a failing of Nigerian governments at every level since the 1970s, which is why we are where we are today with rotting infrastructure and a half-starved, half-illiterate populace. Unfortunately, the only way politicians know how to show Nigerian voters that they are "working" is by plunging huge sums into high-profile facilities like this airport, even as basics like primary healthcare, clean drinking water, high-quality schools and the like go neglected. Who can blame them, given how clearly it seems to work, from all the defensive comments on this thread?

blowjohn:
But u defended him as if he pays u.

Here you reveal your petty, paranoid and nihilistic mindset. In your poverty-addled little world, the only reason one can have for objecting to some dimwit like you hijacking a marathon discussion is because the person must have a financial stake in doing so.

Here's a newsflash for you, homie: I make more money in a day than you probably do in a whole month, and I even make more than Sowore does. The difference between the two of us is that I actually care about running as an athletic activity, so I hate seeing narrow-minded, lazy, armchair-warrior types like you divert attention from the activity itself by turning every single discussion into yet another opportunity to fling your unimaginative and frankly stupïd opinions back and forth, crowding out any meaningful talk about the athletic event itself.

Sowore may be an ignorant windbag who likes making laughable statements to draw attention, but no matter how little respect I have for him as either a "journalist" or as a "politician", if giving attention to this one event is all he ever accomplishes, it will still be more than overly opinionated grumblers like you will manage in your entire lifetimes. You continue to sit in your chair knocking back Gulder bottles as your early death from cirrhosis and heart-disease rapidly approaches, even as others learn about how extreme a challenge running a marathon is, and what it takes to get into the shape to complete one.

Ronaldo723:
No, you are wrong ancient Egyptians were black today settlers of Egypt are Arabs who invaded Egypt do your research bro

Utterly ridiculous! I give you a link to a Wikipedia article carefully laying out the genetic evidence for continuity between ancient and modern day Egyptians, and your response is to simply state your fantasies as truth while telling me to "do your research bro", as if you'd even recognize research if it was pasted right in your face (which is precisely what I've done).

successmatters:
Aba was first disconnected, nothing happened, but

It took one day to reverse the disconnected discos, because Kaduna and Kano were disconnected yesterday?

Nigeria?

Instead of moaning about some imagined discrimination, shouldn't you be asking why the discos have refused to pay their bills? You do realize that the electricity they generate isn't free, and both the Gencos and TCN need to be able to cover their costs to stay in operation.

The real travesty here isn't that some discos were cut off for longer than others, but that any of these deadbeat firms were reconnected and given an additional "grace" period in which they can continue to freely rack up debts. It's precisely because of this sort of financially reckless "leniency" that Nigeria's power sector has stagnated for decades now. If TCN were fully privatized and allowed to freely deal with customers as it saw fit, all of Aba, Kaduna and Kano would be allowed to sit in darkness for as long as was necessary for their discos to get their acts together - and start dealing with their own deadbeat customers and those who outright steal power - and paid up in full. No capital-intensive industry can stay afloat with so much bad debt left to float around indefinitely.

[quote author=CondenseMilk post=122835750][/quote]Can't you read? I didn't dispute the fact that the Arabs invaded North Africa (and even reached Spain), I'm pointing out the absurdity of your claim that Egyptians are "Berber tribes". Berbers are to be found mostly in Algeria, Morocco and Libya, which are completely separate countries from Egypt. Today's Egyptians are overwhelmingly descended from the same Egyptians who built the pyramids and invented the hieroglyphics from which all of today's alphabets are ultimately derived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Egypt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script

blowjohn:
https://www.nairaland.com/7671646/im-disappointed-tinubu-didnt-participate



Oya defend him again.


Shebi u sabi avoid truth. Defend am again na

You should have waited for him to actually say what he did before criticizing; attacking him even before he'd opened his mouth just sapped your credibility and made you seem bitter.

As I've said multiple times already, Sowore is not someone I have ever taken seriously as a political figure - nobody needed to tell me that he's a loudmouth prone to speaking attention-catching nonsense. That still doesn't justify condemning him for doing stupid things before he's actually done them, and in any case, his presence at the event still helped raise awareness of the Abuja marathon's existence. That remains a good thing whatever silliness comes out of Sowore's mouth.

plaindealer:
Why are you Pandora people so obsessed with religion and bigotry?

So, they should have border and immigration policies or enforce their laws because they are Muslims?

You people come up with the dumbest rubbish sometimes.

They are as stupid as they are full to the brim with bigotry, always spewing hate towards all and sundry and boasting of an entirely imaginary superiority while constantly whining about imaginary persecution.