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menxer:
I surmised you are referring to Jesus.

Then You are only speaking from one side of reality.

From what i have come to know, Christianity (as we know it) can't be the only way to Christhood, for Melchizadek was a "type of" Christ
(Heb 7:1-..., Heb 6:20, Heb 5-10, PS 110:4)

If Melchizedek was a high Priest of God in the time of Abraham when Israel did not exist talk of Christianity who were his followers?

If Jesus was a high priest in the order of Melchizedek, who has higher authority/rank: Melchizedek or Jesus?

Sorry to disturb your evening.

No! No! My evening is not disturbed at all!

The Bible has many parts: history, geography, prophesy, mystery and mystical, etc. Simplicity is mixed with complexity. You don't build a house from top down.

The Melchizedek - Jesus relationship is one of the mysteries of the Bible. The former is regarded by us as one of Christ's pre-incarnate existence.

The core message of the Bible is Man's salvation that even a child can understand. There's 'milk' and 'meat' and 'bones' in the Bible. A baby starts with milk. When God gives birth to you He gives you a measure of His Spirit and you begin to understand His words. Over time you grow and are able to understand better and more.

A believer may never understand the M-J mystery till he or she dies. Understanding it and similar complex subjects such as Trinity are not key to knowing and believing in Jesus and being eternally saved.

Unfortunately, groups as yours seek out 'inconsistencies', 'errors', esoteric matters, etc in the Bible and use them to prove how the Book is of little usefulness to spirituality and 'intellectualism' and how it's claims as God's only written word to Mankind and believe in Jesus as the only Way to God.

Remember the battle in Eden was between faith and trust in God and His Word and the deception of knowledge so called, spun by Man's Arch Enemy.

Objections by many have kept them from the Bible Christ.

So long!

Saint Kashamu! I concur!!

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jasysandra:
You spoke like an enlightened Christian! I respect your opinion however, while AMORC doesn't proclaim Jesus as Lord, due to our multireligious mixture, we refer to him as THE CHRIST and most members do believe in him personally. AMORC doesnt force members to follow anyone or worship anyone apart from the GOD of their CONVICTION, be like Allah, Oghene, Abasi, Olorun, Buddha, Zoroaster, etc

AMORC doesnt believe in the Bible because we are not a CHRISTIAN group or even a Religious group for that matter. We are an organisation and recognised as such~! We however, make references to the Bible and other religious books when needs be.

Thank you for your candour.

But, oh! how i wish you are on Bible side. Please come to the One who declares Himself as The Way, The Truth, The Life. He loves you and we do!

Have a blessed weekend.

Jeromejnr:
So seeing that you are arguing with people that want to help you in your decision, why did you open a thread for advise anyways?

He's just testing opinions. He's probably a member wanting to use the forum to AMORC's advantage and Christian bashing because hardly will non Christians comment.

eposho:
What a load of hogwash, he should flee to where ? Your church and continue to wallow in penury. His uncle takes care of his immediate/ future requirements.
Old boy please tell your uncle thank you but you are not at this point mentally ready to join to give you more Tym to ponder over it .
Simple.

Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

pacino26:
If you're in school I mean a university you'd known of fraternities or secret cult. Mind you they are different o. Amorc it's just one of such fraternities and I see no big deal to an invitation not cuz am curious but for principles. In Europe people are in various orders and our live is not better off theirs so pay less attention to ' IT IS A DEMONIC CULT'.

CAVEAT: I AM A CHRISTIAN.

CHRISTIAN?

GOOD MEN, MORALLY SOUND BUT DECEIVED MEN ABOUND IN ALL RELIGIONS AND SECRET SOCIETIES. THEY TALK ABOUT AND 'HONOUR' JESUS. HOW ELSE CAN MEN BE MOST EFFECTIVELY DECEIVED!

WE KNOW THEM BY THEIR (1) ATTITUDE TO THE BIBLE (2) UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS, GENERALLY, AND (3) SPECIFICALLY, THEIR DEFECTIVE CHRISTOLOGY

REGARDING NO.1: THEY READ THE BIBLE AND APPEAR TO KNOW IT VERY WELL. HOWEVER, FOR THEM THE BIBLE IS NOT THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY. IT IS EVEN JUST REGARDED AS KINDAGARTEN SPIRITUAL BOOK FOR THE NON ADEPT.

REGARDING NO.2: THEY TEACH A NON-PERSONAL GOD. GOD IS SOME INTANGIBLE PERFECTION OR ULTIMATE PERFECT STATE WHICH HUMANS SHOULD STRIVE TO MERGE WITH TO EXPERIENCE 'SALVATION' (e.g. Nirvana) BY GOOD WORKS. FOR ALMOST ALL OF THEM REINCARNATION IS THE WAY OF THIS SALVATION.

FOR SOME, SATAN AND DEMONS DONT ACTUALLY EXIST OR ARE IN FACT, SERVING GOD IN THIS WORLD.

REGARDING JESUS THEY WILL ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AS GREAT PROPHET AND TEACHER, BUT NEVER AS LORD AND CERTAINLY NOT THE SAVIOUR, AND THE ONLY SAVIOUR. THAT'S WHERE THE REAL ERROR COMES IN!

JESUS IS LORD!

jasysandra:
Endtimers! My friend, get ready for a big shocker of your life. This world will remain till you are gone and even your great great great great great etc grand children will remain to enjoy life!!! I just pray that they wont be intellectually limited like you.

Jasysandra:

2 Peter 3:3 says KNOWING this FIRST, that THERE SHALL COME in the LAST DAYS SCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts,

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the PREACHING of the CROSS is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the POWER of God.
1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the WISDOM of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it PLEASED God by the FOOLISHNESS of PREACHING to SAVE them that believe.
1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the GREEKS FOOLISHNESS;
1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the FOOLISHNESS of GOD is WISER than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the NATURAL man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are FOOLISHNESS unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the WISDOM of this WORLD is FOOLISHNESS WITH God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

I am a fool for Christ that I may gain the wisdom of God.

I rest my case.

Jesus is Lord!

bigneorapz:
my uncle speaks of jesus and worships him as well. Infact he's the most generous, merciful & kindly man i've ever knew. His life is dedicated to helpin people. He has sponsored so many orphans to school and other disable people. He has the portrate of jesus all over his house. Everybody loves and respect him alot. He's a very good man i must say. Self disciplined. He advices people alot. So why will u say he's leadin me to satan?

BASED ON THIS YOUR COMMENT, YOU GIVE ME THE IMPRESSION YOU ARE MERELY TESTING WATERS OF PEOPLE'S OPINIONS. YOU MAY, IN FACT, BE A MEMBER ALREADY!

GOOD MEN, MORALLY SOUND BUT DECEIVED MEN ABOUND IN ALL RELIGIONS AND SECRET SOCIETIES. THEY TALK ABOUT AND 'HONOUR' JESUS. HOW ELSE CAN MEN BE MOST EFFECTIVELY DECEIVED!

WE KNOW THEM BY THEIR (1) ATTITUDE TO THE BIBLE (2) UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS, GENERALLY, AND (3) SPECIFICALLY, THEIR DEFECTIVE CHRISTOLOGY

REGARDING NO.1: THEY READ THE BIBLE AND APPEAR TO KNOW IT VERY WELL. HOWEVER, FOR THEM THE BIBLE IS NOT THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY. IT IS EVEN JUST REGARDED AS KINDAGARTEN SPIRITUAL BOOK FOR THE NON ADEPT.

REGARDING NO.2: THEY TEACH A NON-PERSONAL GOD. GOD IS SOME INTANGIBLE PERFECTION OR ULTIMATE PERFECT STATE WHICH HUMANS SHOULD STRIVE TO MERGE WITH TO EXPERIENCE 'SALVATION' (e.g. Nirvana) BY GOOD WORKS. FOR ALMOST ALL OF THEM REINCARNATION IS THE WAY OF THIS SALVATION.

FOR SOME, SATAN AND DEMONS DONT ACTUALLY EXIST OR ARE IN FACT, SERVING GOD IN THIS WORLD.

REGARDING JESUS THEY WILL ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AS GREAT PROPHET AND TEACHER, BUT NEVER AS LORD AND CERTAINLY NOT THE SAVIOUR, AND THE ONLY SAVIOUR. THAT'S WHERE THE REAL ERROR COMES IN!

JESUS IS LORD

bigneorapz:
Hi nairalanders, please i have something that is really disturbing me of which am not sure if it's a good move or not. I have a very rich uncle that is a member of the AMORC ( Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis)
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and he's the only one helpin me at the moment in all the things in life both in school and outside school. Without him i'll be useless financially. My mum and my sisters are all christian in a methodist church of which am also a member. But just yesterday, my uncle came to me and told me to start coming with him to the AMORC temple..infact he said he was going to bring me a student form to fill. Please nairalanders..i'm confused at the moment. I learn that amorc members read alot of which i don't like & they have so many principle too. Please what do y'all think of this? Is it a good church for me to be a part of or should i just tell him to his face that am not interested? Please before u make your suggestion, just know that am scared of turning down his offers due to much respect i have for him..thanks. Lalasticlala please help move this to the F.P

Run! Run for your life!
Come to Jesus. He will save you and help you.
Actually membership of AMORC and similar groups
will increase. It's their time as they await the
manifestation of their grandmaster, the Alternate
Christ.
Sooner or later a scorched earth, physically, morally
and spiritually will engulf the world and only those
standing for Jesus Christ will survive into God's new
order, and that, through much tribulation! (Acts 14.22
& Matthew 24.13). Get ready!

Run! Run for your life!

Come to Jesus. He will save you and help you.

Actually membership of AMORC and similar groups will increase. It's their time as they await the manifestation of their grandmaster, the Alternate Christ.

Sooner or later a scorched earth, physically, morally and spiritually will engulf the world and only those standing for Jesus Christ will survive into God's new order, and that, through much tribulation! (Acts 14.22 & Matthew 24.13). Get ready!

The job demands the make-up as an entertainer.

Make-up as a concept may suggest inadequacy and low esteem. Mak-over is even worse. It is over the fence, on the other side.

Natural beauty can be maintained and enhanced with moderation. Anything beyond is unreal!

Congrats, Mr. President! May you live long to do the will of God for Nigerians and Nigeria. May the agents of corruption, stagnation and backwardness flee from Nigeria in your time.

kodded:
the money was to buy arms ad not to spend it on any ex head of state



what happened to the minister of finance ?
or the defense ministry ?


buhari is a thief because he also benefited from the arms deal

What about you and I? To what extent can we vouch for ourselves?

Let Buhari catch the thieves now. Since you say Buhari is a thief also, don't worry it's just a matter of time, another thief will catch him too!

Have a good day!

kodded:
you mean the money meant for the purchase of arms to combat boko haram is now buhari entitlement ?

Security money to protect Ex-Head of State was included in the money voted to 'fight Boko Haram'.

I don't think everything of that money was only to buy arms. That's my understanding.

Corrupt people don't like the anti corruption posture of this or any government. Corrupt people believe that everyone is corrupt and are always trying to prove this.

Buhari is not a saint, but for now he appears cleaner than most.

Dasuki apparently spent a large part of the money not buying arms but laundered it to prosecute political campaign for the party in power and got some for himself also that was unofficial. That's the problem.

Funny people. There's nothing here about Buharigate! He received what was alloted to him as Ex-Head of State. Can't people be fair and analyse things objectively?

akanbiaa:
No one has answered what they would have done as the chief of army staff when you encounter someone with a machine Gun and others wielding AK 47s blocking ones way, answer that first, hope you know both AIT and and NTA has the clip don't know why it has not been made public.

Thanks. That's why I stated, 'If'.

If Buratai did what he did for religious reasons God will judge him and all that planned it.

CAN understand the Sunni Shiite war and is being smart!

Macelliot:
Why do Sunnis hate Shiites with passion?

And verse versa. There's no love your neighbour in Islam, not to talk of love your enemies.

It's absolutely of no spiritual value!

It is simply amazing that contrary to the law against all graven images in the Bible the Catholic Church has made images a permanent feature of worship like many Asiatic and African religions.

When the antichrist finally sets up his own image in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem he's going to have billions of willing worshippers waiting for him!

Jesus is Lord!

dammytosh:
Then can Chief Dokpesi start going home ?

Was she a party member? If she was, that's another matter.

Who gave her the money? Dasuki? If so, again that's a serious one. But if not, let her be!

tinsel:
The same way Dokpesi was paid?

Was she a party member? If she was, that's another matter.

Who gave her the money? Dasuki? If so, again that's a serious one. But if not, let her be!

I'm against corrupt enrichment. But wasn't she just being paid for professional jobs done?

Selfish and myopic like the politicians. Social media heralded them now they want to squash it.

Davido you missed it!

She got paid for professional jobs done! Period!!

adesegun121:
This is a question from ex-President Jonathan's former aide on New Media, Reno Omokri. Well, I think the social media is a raw social space. Intellectual efforts hardly attract attention here. Sad reality

''I dont understand the media obsession with cleavage. Someone shows cleavage and its news but when our youth show intelligence it isn't news.''

https://twitter.com/renoomokri/status/674668686116970497

1. The media wants attention.
2. Sexual images attract one of humans most primitive impulses.
3. The average female instinctively wants attraction.
4. The average male instinctively wants to look at an exposed woman.
5. Expose the woman, she's happy, lustful men feed their eyes and the media smiles to the banks. It's a win win situation for participants.

Finally, Satan is glorified and God's judgement awaits the unrepented in lusts of the eyes and body.

tosyne2much:
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Source: http://tosyne2much..com/2015/12/it-takes-grace-of-god-to-find-nigerian.html

They do so mostly not because of love but money and fame. And in the process are largely exploited and regret in time.

They are attracted to 'shine shine bobos' forgetting that not everything that shines is gold!

LastProphet:
My brother sadly white people appear only to excel in the numerate fields of knowledge and fail woefully in social-related issues. Though they err more on the side of been too magnanimous and diplomacy. I think you should listen more to people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali - you have more to learn from individuals like her.

Thanks for this intro. Ive checked on her. Never heard of her until now. My own comments were essentially derived from observations from history and other sources contemporary experience and Biblical perspectives including its eschatology.

I doubt if Islam would ever been reformed. Islam will remain as the Catholic Church has remained after Protestant 'Reformation'. Islamic form of reformation may be one of the many deceptive acts the AntiChrist may carry out as he unifies world religions.

LastProphet:
My brother sadly white people appear only to excel in the numerate fields of knowledge and fail woefully in social-related issues. Though they err more on the side of been too magnanimous and diplomacy. I think you should listen more to people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali - you have more to learn from individuals like her.

Thanks. Will check on her.