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If I start posting pictures of houses in Nnewi here, this Desola will faint.  

hehe! "Yorubas know what to do"

Flee like bats out of hell!

Tell me when your people ever fought in the north. Freaking cowards.

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So have you told Fashola to evacuate Yorubas in Borno?
You are more worried about Igbos than your own folks. Are they (Yorubas) that useless to you? LOL! 

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The painful truth is that Nigeria is a deceptive and devious country. Nothing is as stated. Else, why would anyone be talking about self defense in a country where there was a bloody civil war, and the same people building houses outside their ethnic base were forcefully returned to the federation.

Why were they forced back?

Igbos are slow to anger, but move out of the way when we eventually get angry.

The message in my post is clear to Igbos.

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My friend sharraaap dia! I didn't ask your opinion.

On a serious note, I stopped sympathizing with my Igbo refugee returnees years ago. If they cannot fight for their property outside Igboland, they should not be buying them. Simple.

Soon other Igbos will start to feel the same way

The foolhardy of some of my Igbo brothers is astounding. How can anyone in his right senses buy a house or land in a place where he cannot defend his property with weapons? Is it that I understand the value of money more, or that folks are simply "money miss road"?

I would rather blow my money on self indulgence (and there are millions of them I can pick from ), than buy a piece of land outside the range of my defense ability. . . which explains why I (so far) seldom buy lands outside Igboland.

I think we (Ndigbo in the SE) should chase back these so called refugees to go back and fight for their properties.

I'm ROTFL @ ezeagu "arushi".

But with all these Boko Haram bombs going off here and there, I'm sure some southerners and middle belters are wondering why they fought against Biafra.
Fact remains that the opportunity of 1966 (at Aburi) was missed badly ( I say sabotaged by the enemies of Nigeria ).
Some of these players must be scratching their heads saying silently "WTF did we do?"
While Ojukwu will die peacefully with a smile on his face.

@redsun & asorocker

I don't think Igbo would EVER forget.

Posted by: ndu_chucks

]ewoooo!! So you are the boy with Al-Quaeda type bear bear dancing ajasco dance at that place. Okwute Palestinians piafuka gi your softest spot.

Kai  Dan iska!

So, you picture me with a long beard?
Apart from Ojukwu, how many Nnewi men have you seen with a beard?

Posted by: ndu_chucks

@Onlytruth, you are probably an empty barrel. If you be proper Imo ndigbo, we shall see you in Pennsylvania later this month, that is if you even know what I'm talking about. olodo

I never said I was from Imo.
I am from Nnewi, and I was at Los Angeles this past weekend for Nnewi USA (NUSA) conference/gala night.
I am only a passionate Igbo man. 

Posted by: koruji

For those who can see where this thing is going - state police is yesterday's solution.

What states/regions should be building right now are their own melting armies - they will need it to keep their regions save when this poo finall hits the fan. I am dead serious

A friend of mine once asked me whether I believe that Nigeria can be partitioned peacefully.
My answer was (is) I don't know, but it is very possible. However, it cannot happen without a coup.
I don't see our politicians EVER developing enough guts and honesty to partition that space.

In Naija, anything. . .just anything is possible. 

On a closer thought, I think that regional police should go together with local (city) police, for cities numbering 100,000 and above. Such city police don't have to be many. Their primary role should be intelligence gathering for the regional police.

Posted by: dem_people

State police is good but I'm a champion of regionalisation both in economy, governance and security matters.

Regional police is obviously more viable (due to funding challenges), but a region like SS would also need local (state) police. SE would not need local police since everybody in SE speaks Igbo, so regional police would be enough.

I am for a total dismantling of the Nigerian police to replace it with state and regional police formations.

I'm shocked!

This man is actually talking sense for the first time in his political life.

I would take his repentance.

In Nigeria, everything is upside down for the sake of "unity".
How can a country at war maintain unity?
Isn't security a priority and a precursor for unity?

This issue won't go away because there is no other solution to Nigeria's perennial security problems.

State police is the answer –Akpabio

By OLUWOLE FAROTIMI
Tuesday, July 05, 2011

Akwa Ibom State Governor, Chief Godswill Akpabio, who terminated his annual vacation, last week, to receive President Goodluck Jonathan to his state this week, has proposed community policing as a panacea to rising wave of crimes and criminality in the country.

The governor also advocated the return of state police to check crimes and insurgency, both twin-time bombs currently giving security agencies in the country nightmare.

Akpabio, who made this submission in Abuja, at an interaction session with media executives, said certain acts of criminality that almost marred the countdown to the last general elections, as well as security challenges thrown up by the ravages of groups like the Boko Haram, were desperate situations requiring urgent and effective solutions.

He recommended community policing, which, he said, was effectively employed by the regions in the First Republic to curb crimes, criminals and criminality at the local levels of governance, since, according to him, the responsibility of guaranteeing security at that level was the direct responsibility of the chief executive of each region.
“Indeed, not a few state chief executives have advocated for the return of state police and community policing given the increasing level of lawlessness, criminality and brigandage in most parts of the country,” he said.
Akpabio, who is in the vanguard of that campaign, stressed that the situation whereby police commissioners were answerable to the police high command in Abuja had not allowed state governors effective control of the security situation in their domains.

Restating his confidence in the efficacy of the models he was recommending, the governor stated that communal system in Nigeria would not only enhance the operation of state police, it would also promote effective intelligence gathering, which are necessary conditions that would make the police more pro-active in crime prevention and control.

He said in every community in Nigeria, the people usually found it easy to spot strange individuals and occurrences, since almost everyone could easily trace and track suspicious movements and then report their findings to community heads.
“As far as security is concerned,” he said, “the main initiative rests with the Federal Government. What we, as governors, are pleading is that we decentralise control of security. We must have state police and make security as a front burner of campaign.

“When I mount the podium for campaign, I should be able to tell the electorate that I am capable of guaranteeing their security. I should tell them that if I am directly in charge of security, I will minimise armed robbery and address the problem of kidnapping. I have to have the apparatus of control of security to be able to do that,” Akpabio said.

“But in the present system that we operate, a Nigerian governor who is the chief security officer of a state, is like a general without troops.
Can that general be effective? When the cases of kidnapping were raging, who controls the apparatus of checking kidnapping? Is it not the Federal Government? The commissioner of police they posted to states cannot be controlled by the governors. In some cases, they bring the most inefficient ones to you and then you are helpless.
“In the First Republic, we had an effective constitution. We had regionalism in practice and you have a parliamentary system which allows you to contest elections as long as you remain the best option.
But we are now in a presidential system, which allows you only two terms. Whether a governor likes it or not he must leave at the end of his second tenure.

“Then, the constituting has taken away the power from a governor to work. Community policing, to me, is the answer because through that, you can easily gather intelligence. And intelligence gathering is key in making police to be very pro-active, so that you nip a crisis in the bud before they break out.
“When you go to a community, everybody knows the next man in and out. So, they can easily report strange things they observe to the police.
But if you bring someone who does not speak a language and understand
a terrain to serve as a Police Commissioner, where will he start from?”

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/july/05/national-05-07-2011-0010.html

Just adding my voice of advice to Okorocha. It would be the biggest political mistake of your life to dump APGA during your term.

Imo people are among the most resolute and militant Igbos. They don't forgive and forget political treachery.

If you want to last long in politics, stick to APGA until you complete your term.
Try anything else, you will go down like Ohakim.

Is Imo PDP a political laboratory?

THE pressure reportedly being mounted on the new Governor of Imo State, Owelle Rochas Okorocha by acolytes of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to dump his party, the All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA), on which platform he was elected Governor for the PDP is irritating, premature and amounts to distraction of the governor from accomplishing the task he has set for himself.

Under the guise of paying courtesy visits, the former Foreign Affairs Minister, Chief Ojo Maduekwe and his kinsman, the Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, Chief Emeka Ihedioha, leading a team of PDP big shots, recently besieged Governor Okorocha, enticing him to dump his party, APGA, to join the PDP, which obviously would put him on collision course with Imo people. Do these people want to ruin Okorocha’s political career as they did former Governor Ikedi Ohakim?

The distraction is neither in the interest of the governor nor that of the Imo people. Imo State is not a political laboratory of the PDP where the governors are ever found easy prey to toy with. The PDP should leave Governor Okorocha alone to do the work Imo people have entrusted into his hand. I’m sure those people came on their own volition, not being sent by the PDP leadership. For, the last thing President Jonathan, who’s still battling with forming his cabinet, would be thinking at this time is how to lure Governor Okorocha to PDP.

The fact that Okorocha was a founding member of the PDP, as being argued, is irrelevant and belated. Is Okorocha the only founding member of the PDP who’s no longer in the party? If being a founding member is an advantage, why didn’t the PDP allow him win all the elections he contested since 1999? It’s common knowledge that the PDP today is largely led by people who were never part of the founding fathers. And, it’s not that the PDP controlled states are better off while those under the opposition parties are not. Not belonging to the PDP doesn’t deny any state its statutory rights at the federal level. Every state gets its allocation from the Federation Account. And, the PDP, as a party doesn’t allocate separate funds to states under its control. So, why the fuss?

It’s too early for detractors to pounce on Governor Okorocha, for that would divert his focus and derail his plans for Imo State. This was what happened to the former Governor Ohakim. Ohakim dumped his party after two years in office after starting well as soon as he assumed office on May 29, 2007. Within a couple of months, there was visible change in Owerri, in terms of roads reconstruction, transportation and refuse disposal.

The first two years of Ohakim’s rulership was very fruitful, as he lifted Owerri from the dung hill that his predecessor, Achike Udenwa left the city. Ohakim was definitely on the right track until the PDP began to mount pressure on him to dump his party, the Progressive People’s Alliance (PPA), to which he succumbed. It was from that point that things changed.  From July 2009, when he formally decamped to the PDP, nothing tangible was done again. He used the remaining two years to play destructive politics that finally sent him packing out of the state.

Therefore, for Governor Okorocha, who hasn’t even fully constituted his cabinet, it’s too early to leave the work at hand to start playing politics. It should be clear to those luring him that things have changed, going by the phenomenon of the last general elections. It’s not the PDP chieftains that would vote for him in 2015; it’s Imo people. Let the Governor not allow anybody to deceive him.

Imo people have seen this distraction before. They have seen their governor walk this road of infamy with dire consequences. The same people that misled Ohakim are at it again. That Governor Okorocha is being prodded too early in the day to commit the same error of Ohakim shows that no lesson has been learnt from the Ohakim experience. Governor Okorocha shouldn’t fall into that same trap.

In Imo, you don’t jump party as governor and survive it. Imo people, indeed the entire Southeast like the Southwest, has always been in opposition since independence in 1960. Any exception is questionable. As a matter of fact, Ohakim made history by being the first governor of Imo State, since its inception in 1976, to ever dump the party that brought him to power to join another one. And, he suffered a humiliating defeat at the polls, showing that political prostitution at that level is not wanted in the state.

There should be some modicum of integrity for this democratisation to succeed in the interest of all of us. If you become governor on the platform of any party, you should remain there and complete your term. It’s a social contract which a governor shouldn’t breach.  Former Governor Ohakim was deceived with disastrous result. At the end, he abandoned the state before the handover date of May 29 and fled the country on May 27, thereby becoming the first governor of the state to flee the country at the end of his tenure. Governor Okorocha can’t afford to make the same mistake because he’s a major stakeholder in Imo, indeed, Nigeria.  This is why he should ignore the detractors and concentrate on his job. That’s the right thing to do.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53420:is-imo-pdp-a-political-laboratory-&catid=38:columnists&Itemid=615

How would this airport survive the onslaught of the Atlantic ocean which is projected to swallow up most of Lekki and the new "Eko Atlantic" within a few years time?

Nigerians no dey calculate sha. My safest land investments are all "up land".

This is the point I exit the thread, and I do so with a warning.

Time is running out for C/river and Tinapa.
Other Nigerian cities, especially those in the East are already making similar plans.
If a city like Enugu succeeds in what they are planning, now that it has an international airport, Tinapa may never make it again.
I'm sad, but time waits for no one.

In the East now, there is Asaba next door to Onitsha, and there is Enugu (airports) which will pull business men/women from as far away as Anambra. There is Imo cargo airport which the new governor might plan to exploit to maximum benefit.

So, before you know it, Tinapa would only have very limited option.

Nuff said.

Signing out.

Onlytruth.  

Posted by: jason123

If people come from various countries to Nnewi and co, it is mainly for business purposes not leisure. For your business to progress or for you to purchase goods and services, you will go to any place or location on Earth. That is human nature.

Bingo!  

When I plan a project like Tinapa, I plan it in such a way that it CANNOT FAIL. We are talking about public funds here.

So, if you accept the bolded, I rest my case.

On the tourism point, I go back to my earlier point: You cannot have tourism if there is no other business to support it.
This is especially true in the Nigerian environment. It is even more true in Nigeria because so many other national issues kill such projects.
If you follow my plan, the project would be infallible.  

On the issue of "diversity", I don't believe it falls out of the skies.

Every global city today at one time or the other was dominated by ONE dynamic culture/group (notice that I did not say tribe). It usually diversifies as it grows.

The extent to which the city advances depends on the "civilization" level of the original dominant group.

If the group is progressive and ambitious, then yes, the city would grow fast and famous. If not, the city would not.

Posted by: alj_harem

onlytruth, they are not that many and diverse at all has u make it seem

even the few that come are there for business ie nollywood movies in onitsha

and no one would kidnap a congese man i mean for what na

Then I'm beginning to believe that you don't go to the East.
I state the facts. I don't understand what you mean by "they are not that many and diverse".

Posted by: jason123

You are just being melodramatic. It is not a matter of reading it or not. Even they (CR folks) know the truth. In as much as I appreciate the ambitious nature of the project, it will not work because a number of factors are already against it, most especially, the Location and [/b]the lack of cultural diversity. How many people will get down from Lagos, Abuja or PH airport, then get a bus or airline (if there is ) to CR It is too stressful. [b]The fact that MEND is know to be a "ND thing" does not help matters.

Guy, I am not against such projects but when executing such, we have to take ALL the factors in to account and not just do it because we think it is big and beautiful, it should work.

But people come all the way from Congo DR, CAR, Cameroon, Zambia, Malawi etc to Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha.  

And they do so inspite of all the kidnap fears.

Anyone who does not know you would think that you are honestly commenting. I know you are not.

I ask you again, so tough luck to Cross river and Tinapa by reason of their location

Posted by: alj_harem

it can't because no one would invest in a project that does not have the right equipment for it to generate money

No foreigner would go to a place Nigerians don't flock to.

onlytruth brother, what is wrong in comparing cross river with jigawa and kwara

is cross river better than those states
where are u getting at

With all due respect, Cross river is FAR better than those states, unless I misread their true potentials and natural beauty.