₦airaland Forum

If GEJ does this, he would have done ALL that is necessary to fix things at the center. We would then wait for the thieving governors at the state level.

This should also be followed by state police because the Feds won't have enough money to pay the Police now. The states should equip and pay their own police formations in accordance with a provision in the constitution.

I'm still mad at Zik though, 'cos he lacked vision. Completely.

. . And today we have overtaken them in education.

Posted by: okada_man

[b]@Onlytruth, that dude @ekt is telling you the truth, Even the report confirmed it, Cocoa was the mainstay then, [/b]it you have different data present it.

In any case, this is not about Igbos, it is about a very stuuuupid man called Azikiwe with inferiority complex, thinking he's smart, that Zik man probably pushed Ifeajuna and co to plan the 1966 coup after the saw that he messed up.

Ojukwu was probably encouraged then deserted by that Zik. Azikiwe had no love or respect for Igbos, he only loved his own ego, the same problem is still there today with Obasanjo and all these other fake nationalists. We need to SNC or a referendum, we are managing a nation founded on lies and deceit with the same deceitful divide and rule method, that's why it's not working.

No, he is wrong because he forgets that there was still the Lagos factor even then. A lot of other Nigerians lived in Lagos just like today. The influence of Lagos alone, or proximity to Lagos alone could sway things that way. Lagos was a microcosm of Nigerians and had steady federal money flowing in from all parts of Nigeria too. That was how Lagos sea port and airport was built.
In any case, the Western region DID NOT contribute more than 44% of national output if you want to see it literally. The region also never paid more than 50% of its revenue to the center.
It is well known fact that the west took off before others in education. The East was in hot pursuit and caught up just before the war.

@alj harem

I will soon withdraw the certificate of intelligence I gave you in the thread you argued with ZNO.
You are sounding dumber and dumber by the day, I will soon add you to my list of certified m0r0ns on nairaland. 

Abuja is the Federal capital territory, and the FG does not consult with northern leaders before appoint an FCT minister.
Stop chewing grass.

^^

Don't mind that dude.

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

You meant thousands. That makes it so much better.
Not millions, but thousands must die in Igboland before equality can be achieved.

When you start seeing your psychotherapists, let me know so that I can start taking you serious. Arrantious nonsensial.

You clearly need help!

I never knew fear can also cause delusion.

Tell your folks to die like we've been dying in your land and North, and still staying and buying more properties. That is the story of settlers, else they should run back to oduduwa land as usual.  hehehe!

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

Why wont I complain when your post makes no sense at all.

In a "unified" country, why should millions die in Igboland in order to stop marginalization? Aside from North, SE has to be a tribalistic region.

Are you sure you are well? REALLY.

Who posted this:

Actually, they did. If we gave you no sense of belonging or if we did not accommodate you, the same thing that is happening to your people in Jos and other Northern states would be hapening in Yorubaland now. Are you getting comfortable because Yorubas do not implement violence in their everyday life?

You were the first to raise the issue of security of life and property for settlers and I answered this:

They did not. Nobody gave us any chance anywhere outside Igboland.
You talk about the North as if we just give them our necks to cut in every riot.
Even before Nigeria's independence, Igbos always fought back when attacked in the north.
The 1966 pogrom was devastating because Northern Nigerian army personnel participated in the killing of Igbos.

The question then is this; Are Yorubas prepared to die in thousands like the Hausa? I don't think so.

In essence they are doing only what they can. It is just that Iboman get thick skull

BTW where did you get the MILLIONS from. I never said anything about millions of people dying.

You need help walahi.  

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

Misguided thinking or no thinking at all. Hard to decide with these posts.

So to gain an equal footing in Igboland, the Yorubas and Hausas must die in millions? Have you seen a psychotherapist lately?

So, why are you complaining then?
My people also say that agwa nwata ihe a na eme were aba ogaranya osi ka o ha kwa ka o ha! If you tell a poor kid the burden of getting rich, he would rather remain poor.

I don't need a psychotherapist. Your men simply need balls or they should shut up.  

I would temporarily leave the thread with an age old Igbo proverb which goes this way: Nnunu isi akaghi aka adighi aga ogu otukpokpo -
a bird with a weak skull does not pick a fight with a woodpecker.

Settling outside ones tribal region in Nigeria is akin to a bird engaging a woodpecker in a fight.

It ain't tea party!

So man up and settle, or go back home. Shikena.  

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

Actually, they did. If we gave you no sense of belonging or if we did not accommodate you, the same thing that is happening to your people in Jos and other Northern states would be hapening in Yorubaland now.Are you getting comfortable because Yorubas do not implement violence in their everyday life?

They did not. Nobody gave us any chance anywhere outside Igboland.
You talk about the North as if we just give them our necks to cut in every riot.
Even before Nigeria's independence, Igbos always fought back when attacked in the north.
The 1966 pogrom was devastating because Northern Nigerian army personnel participated in the killing of Igbos.

The question then is this; Are Yorubas prepared to die in thousands like the Hausa? I don't think so.

In essence they are doing only what they can. It is just that Iboman get thick skull.  

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

Nobody is worried about competition. Atleast give non-indigence the chance to compete. It's only because of the small population. Let it continue to grow and you'll feel competition.

Nobody gave us a chance to compete anywhere outside Igboland.
We simply bit the bullet and grabbed it.

In the late 90s, a friend of my father died in Lagos from a juju planted by a Yoruba man in his yard. We still soldiered on and more Igbo still bought properties and developed them. Against all odds.

So, anybody asking us to give him a chance to compete is kidding.

One of the benefits of an Igbo only country is that we will grab African nations football cup (male and female) and make sure no other country wins it ever again.

It is all about competition folks!

Enugu is open for business.

Please drop by!  

Even if you give these Yoruba and Hausa folks free land in Enugu, Igbo boys will buy it back from them the next day.  
This is really about competition and no group competes better than Igbo in the whole of Africa.
Withdraw things like quota, we would dominate the military, sports, economy, technology, healthcare, you name it.

Please come to the East I beg you!  

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I have to post these Biafran currency pictures because they show that standards were still very high even in the face of war.

Looks like the country raced down a cliff after the war.
It also looks like the country had higher building and construction standards while white folks were still there.

I don't know which it is, whether it is the aboki that took over after 1970, or the white man that left too early IMO.
We may never know.

Meanwhile here is my own hero D1ck Tiger -world middle weight champion, Biafran soldier. 

I really think that we should pursue this Festac State with vigor.
I have wondered how we pay all those taxes in Lagos state without adequate voice.
I say we team up with all non-Yoruba groups in Lagos and push for it.
If Yoruba try nonsense, we show them pepper there.

Wetin sef.

@KenGali,

Dalu nwanne.
You demonstrated our usual genius. I agree with about 98% of what you said. I also believe that there is a need for a study to be conducted by an international PRIVATE company (a company not attached to any government) to tell us the truth about the real cause of this problem. Igboland has always been there for thousands of years.  I wonder why all these are happening now. Some have speculated that the oil  mining activities down south is loosening the soil in Igboland. Talk of nkita tachaa okpukpu, eze egbube ewu! If that is the case, we need to make a case for federal govt. to bear the burden of any remediation exercise.

I would advise you to ignore all the Yoruba idiots here trying to score cheap points.
Particularly, ignore kobojunkie and Eko-Ole

Posted by: Ibime

Fools consolation.

You have proven to us before that Ndigbo has the most on-shore oil blocks in Nigeria. Who owns your oil blocks?  


The fact is this. It is not the prerogative of the majority to claim that minorities get fair treatment under them as NL revisionists would have us believe. The majority has no say in the matter. It is the minority who would tell you if they are being dominated or not.

In the UK, the English have no say in whether the Scottish believe they are fairly represented. The Scots have their own parliaments and can raise referendum on the issue whenever they like. It is entirely their call.

Even Saro-Wiwa said Ogoni was oppressed by Ijaw. [/b]He is correct cos that is the nature of African societies.

Meanwhile some bovine-brained NL warriors are trying to force down our throats the lie that they are equitable partners in Eastern Nigeria, whilst still talking down to us as overlords. Some are even making mockery of their education by posting names of Divisonal Governors as proof of "Federalism".  

As for my nuclear family, we are proponents of Biafra, [b]but I cannot blame any minority in the Eastern Region for fighting against Biafra, being that that was the only and immediate Government they had had all their lives, and which they believe was inequitable. One may say they jumped from the Deep Blue Sea into the hands of the Devil, but when someone's life is only affected by his immediate Govt, he is inculpable for fighting the devil he knows.

I believe that most of Nigeria's current oil production and exports come from minority areas and the sea. The deposits may be in Igboland, but most oil in core Igboland has been designated "strategic national reserve" (whatever that means).

About minorities fighting the so called devils (the Igbo), why are we even having this conversation?
We are having it because Ken Saro Wiwa regretted his actions at the point of death. He could never mend his foolishness. It was too late for him.

You may not know it, but one the most heated debates in Igboland is whether to mete out Ken Saro Wiwa treatement to other minorities if the opportunity comes again as I'm sure it definitively will in Nigeria.
I as an aspiring Igbo leader want to know whether I should throw you guys under the bus, the way some of you did.
This debate is still on going in Igboland as you can see the exchanges between Igbo guys here.

Of course that does not mean that minorities have no say in whatever we decide to do. Nobody is leading anybody by the nose.  We are all defending our interests.

Posted by: ekt_bear

Hehe. What KSW and Ibime are saying is both obvious to anyone who thinks about it and isn't clouded by personal interest. Why would anyone want to be ruled by other man, especially in a case in which most of the resources of the state are on his land?

These Igbo attempts to shout down the minorities in their midst aren't going to work.

May the minorities of the Eastern Region never be silenced.

You are already ruling him in his land because your people own huge quantities of oilfields in his land. Even the oil companies are controlled by your people and their headquarters are in Lagos, not Abonema.

The louder they shout, the more you smile to the bank.

Gotta join you though.

Posted by: Ibime

Pure nonsense.

The minorities of the Mid-western region had leaned on the Igbo for help to break away from Yoruba domination. . . and all that minorities in the former Eastern Region wanted was to break away from Igbo domination since 1930.

No peoples in Nigeria are de-tribalised so every minority would always be oppressed by the majority.

When my great uncle built the Rivers State College of Arts and Craft, he put an Igbo man called Mr Mbonu as a non-executive director on his board. He built his school on virgin land in D-line and sent papers to Enugu for the naming of the road. Guess what they called the road? Mbonu street. . . . after the non-executive director! This is just an example of the individual indignities minorities suffered which coalesced into a collective revulsion or "fear of Igbo domination."

Our elders who grew up in the 1930s are not silly. They knew the reality on the ground, not this "inclusive Igbo" revisionism you guys are giving us now. No tribe in Nigeria, nay Africa, is not nepotistic.

Please ask Ojukwu what deals he struck with the minorities before the war. The white man made "Eastern Region" and you suddenly think Eastern Region is your birthright to take as you see fit? Ijaws and co have been fighting against these white man contraptions called "Eastern Region" and "Nigeria" since the 1940s. If Ojukwu can ride roughshod over his fellow Igbo officers in the army, almost all of whom complain about his authoritarian style, what makes you think his "undiplomatic" approach would entice the minorities. . . when he tells them that things under Eastern region will be the same as in Nigeria (meanwhile Nigeria are offering Rivers State to the minorities)?

As for the person who highlighted the names of divisional Governors in the old Eastern Region as "proof" of Federalism, such person's education was a waste. Is the Governor of Jos not a Jos man today? Is the local councillor of Wakirike Local Government Area not an Okrika man today? What does that have to do with Federalism?

The arrogance of Ndigbo in political matters is their undoing. Ndigbo have never ruled anybody before the white man came, hence they lack experience in Governance and compromise. I dont blame them, its a steep learning curve.

Actually you are right because I found out that because of that arrogance, we think we can save ourselves, talk less of minorities from the Nigerian dungeon politics. We should be working with Yorubas and Hausas to learn from them how not to be arrogant.
We are learning now though, abeg no vex.
Problem is that the resources are not waiting for anyone's "learning curve". It will soon deplete. 

Posted by: ~Bluetooth

do you actually think yoruba and ibo can really be united with the ethnic suspicion and distrust from ibos ? That 3rd mainland bridge state by ibo is a facade to me.

It is because folks like you are suspicious of our every move.
The state will be in SW just like current Lagos. So what gives? 

@0lumide

Please calm down. This is a win win state.

Posted by: Obiagu1

Canada, but I'll be visiting the US next summer, God's willing.
When that time comes closer, I'll make arrangement to meet up.

Ok bros, just let me know when you land.