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PoliticsRe: Sudan Home To The Largest Nigerian Population Of Any Destination Country? by Onlytruth(op): 6:47pm On Jan 24, 2011
Here's the graph.

Source: Development Research Centre (DRC), Global Migrant Origin Database, 2007.

PoliticsRe: Sudan Home To The Largest Nigerian Population Of Any Destination Country? by Onlytruth(op): 6:39pm On Jan 24, 2011
So, while southern Nigerians are heading to the US and Europe, northern Nigerians are heading to Sudan?

Chineke ekwena ife ojo.
PoliticsRe: Sudan Home To The Largest Nigerian Population Of Any Destination Country? by Onlytruth(op): 6:37pm On Jan 24, 2011
Somehow this revelation makes me highly uncomfortable! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Sudan hosts more Nigerians than US?

Chei! shocked shocked shocked

Sudan of all places! shocked shocked shocked

Chei chei chei! shocked shocked

Are we going to arrest terrorism in Nigeria soon? hmmmmm. undecided
PoliticsSudan Home To The Largest Nigerian Population Of Any Destination Country? by Onlytruth(op): 6:35pm On Jan 24, 2011
[size=16pt]Sudan home to the largest Nigerian population of any destination country?[/size]

Why is Sudan home to the largest Nigerian population of any destination country? The most common explanation is a long history of sociocultural ties between Sudan and northern Nigeria, where most Nigerians in Sudan are from. Also, northern Nigerians who travel over land for the annual Islamic pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia go through Sudan, and many have settled there over the years.

In the 1993 Sudanese census, West Africans, under the label Nigerian tribes, were estimated to be about 1.4 million, or 7.4 percent of northern Sudan's total population. The Hausa in Sudan, who work mainly in agriculture, are believed to be the largest Hausa diaspora in the world. The Fulani among them can be divided into cattle owners and urbanized Fulani, while most of the Kanuri, believed to be among the earliest dwellers, have been fully Arabized.

Nigeria's ambassador to Sudan between 2005 and 2007, Mr. Dahiru Suleiman, was quoted in the Nigerian media as saying that Nigerians hold positions in the Sudanese government and the security services like the police but that most are subsistence farmers, poor and poorly educated.

Recent actions of the Sudanese government suggest concerns about the legal status of these settlers. In March 2010, it was widely reported that Sudan deported 58 Nigerians, all northerners, and most of them women. The Sudanese authority said that some of the deportees had fake/ expired travel documents. However, journalist Ajikanle Nurudeen reported that the deportees were sent home because they were a nuisance to Sudan, as most of the deported women were blind and were beggers.

In recent years, Sudan has become a destination for younger Nigerians for work and study. BBC Sport journalist Oluwashina Okeleji reported that Nigerian footballers play in the Sudanese league to get on the radar of European scouts and hope to ultimately move to Europe.

http://www.migrationinformation.org/Profiles/display.cfm?ID=788
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 2:17am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: jason123
Must your opposition be of yoruba origin? Why do you brand everyone that opposites your political views, yorubahuh Its really annoying!
You should heed fstranger's advice and go and drain that swamp near your flat. cool

Let me help you with your question.

Are most suicide bombers Muslim and Arab? HELL YES!

Are most mockers of dead children in Biafra Yoruba? HELL YES!  undecided
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 2:09am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: jay_getta
@OnlyTruth: Exactly, character is like Pregnancy: cannot be hidden! Yours is like a 13 yrld gal that is 7'ft tall: Noticeable for all to see! You can cry all you want but what is good for the goose is good for the gander! Bawolomo died, who had fun making his death the "Def Comedy Anthem"? Other vile postings every day from both groups, have you ever cautioned your brothers? When? How often? You won't elicit any[b] pity[/b] from me, sorry, constantly crying [/b]about dead Biafran kids. I bet you, if there were pictures of Dead Yoruba kids from during the civil war your brothers would have not hesitated to use it to poke fun at them! They've done worse, so don't try to make one side look like a saint while the other looks Lucifer-led!
Frankly dude, you miss the point completely. undecided undecided And I notice that most of your people miss the point.  undecided

Most Igbo have since dried their eyes and the crying is now more in other parts of Nigeria that fought against Biafra.
Open your eyes!

I was only responding to [b]ShangoTor
, an otherwise intelligent dude who was dreaming of a "southern Nigeria". I was only trying to show him why it would be impossible.
That's all.
"Crying" my @55!  undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 1:58am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: Aigbofa
I guess you now understand how Northerners felt when ibos were foolishly dancing around with pictures of the dead Sardauna of Sokoto!

It wasn't only "DARK" it was also DUMB.
Sarduana was not a child. He was a politician. People mock politicians all the time. Did you see any Igbo killing an innocent northerner for the death of Aguiyi Ironsi? NO.
In fact there would not have been any trouble if northerners (and westerners) didn't kill 30,000 innocent Igbos.
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 1:49am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: jay_getta
@OnlyTruth: Nothing short of your reply was expected. The surprise would have been you presenting your position in a polite and civil manner. Your vile nature is known to all and sundry here, so I know anything can be expected of you. Through our writing a personae can be revealed, characters can be deciphered; yours is an unpleasant one, I'm sorry. . . . Anyway, back to your post! First, you lied! You claimed to have "stopped reading after the first bolded"; so HOW DID YOU GET TO THE SECOND BOLDED: Particularly when the second bolded is in the middle of another sentence??!? See how our 'little Characters are revealed through our writings? You can tell who the thug is, who the gullible is, who the sweetheart is, who the LIAR is, who the happy is etc. Go back to my first post, did I insult you? No! But in your way of seeing things cautioning you on your attitude is a declaration of war. "Dark wickedness of your people"?! Who these my "People"?! Have I ever claimed any tribe in Nigeria? So, asking you to be fair in your actions doesn't only automatically make me an enemy, it also makes me Yoruba!?!! You have issues for real. What if I told you I was from Awaka or Aladinma? What would you say then? Would my 'people' still have that 'darkness' in them? I never called you a tribalist or a bigot; I said condemn it wherever it rears its head. Don't let it germinate just because its your brothers doing the harming. Fair is fair, is all I'm saying. If you will praise it on one side, don't condemn it on the other.
Pure rant.
Character is like pregnancy. You cannot hide it. There is only one group constantly mocking dead children here, and it is not even Northerners who actually led the war. The Northerners mock Igbo men for losing the war. Fair enough.

Your people mock the death of innocent children. REALLY DARK.
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 1:20am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: Abagworo
You are the one failing to see issues the way they are.If you observe my posts I am pro-Igbo but I look at things objectively.I have interacted well with all parts of Igboland and anything I tell you just believe it.We all want our Igbo country but it will end up like Nigeria.So the best solution remains to make Nigeria work.I have made some comments about a perfect Igbo/Ibibio country but I never miss to use the word "Utopia" because that best represents its possibility.
You may not believe it, but I have always wanted Nigeria to work. You may also not believe it, but Ojukwu wanted Nigeria to work too.
All the top Igbo men who fought for Biafra wanted Nigeria to work. In my view, they were the most patriotic Nigerians. Ojukwu probably still is. They just couldn't stand by doing nothing while Nigeria burnt and failed. Ojukwu would still prefer a functioning Nigeria to any other country. Quote me on that.

If I end up with an Igbo only country, or a Biafra, always remember that it is because Nigeria failed.
I hope you understand me better now.

So, you don't need to sell your peoples pride just because you are attempting cosmopolitanism from the wrong direction.
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 1:12am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: jay_getta
While any sane mind will agree that Fstranger's posting pictures of starving Biafran kids is despicable at worst, and horrid and disrespectul at best, I think it is hypocritical of OnlyTruth to condemn his (fstranger's) action then indirectly ascribe it as the character of the  Yorubas as a race (we "hear" the underlying tone loud and clear, buddy, trust me). What I find particularly dubious is OnlyTruths ability to stand on the sidelines when it is Igbos doing the bashing, but as soon as the Yorubas return fire he is quick to condemn their actions. To get the Nigeria which you claim to want, Bigotry, tribalism, and Discrimination of all kinds must be condemned, and if possible, punished. But as long as people insist on turning a blind eye if it is their kin doing the hurting, then they have no moral right to complain once the tide turns and the shoe is on the other foot!
First bolded is where I stopped reading. Spot on.

Second bolded is also spot on.

I don't think you know me enough to call me a bigot or tribalist. I am neither. Not that I care what I'm labeled by your type.

There is a certain level of DARK wickedness which your people on this forum have exhibited which I have never seen from Igbo or eastern posters on this site.

I am yet to see an Igbo mocking brutally murdered children anywhere in Nigeria.

So, YOU are the hypocrite.
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 1:04am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: Kalu Akanu
Is that the reason why he changed?

Because of that poll 3 months ago.

This change has become more pronounced. I thought he was ChinenyeN for a second.

We all know I am the most clannish Igboist in this section. Aro-Okigbo shall rise again
Yes, he changed after the poll.  cry

As if anyone cared.  undecided undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 12:58am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: Abagworo
That is the absolute truth.The Nigerian problem exists even at State level.Abia State for example is inhabited mostly by Igbos but the Ngwas,Ndokis and Asas who inhabit the south still prefer being alone.Assuming you give them a country,the Asas and Ndokis will still prefer being separate from Ngwas.You now give Asa and Ndoki,the Asas will feel dominated.

Rivers State is even more complex.The best solution remains to MEND Nigeria.
@abagworo,

Ever since they tagged you a tribalist in that poll, you have not been the same.  cry cry


Everyday, you get worse.  cry

You think you can be more Nigerian than ME? Or even more clannish than ME?  huh huh huh

I'm laughing.  cool
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 12:42am On Jan 24, 2011
Posted by: ShangoThor
Hey OnlyTruth, I cringed when I saw those pics, such methods are absolutely disgusting ,  there is something seriously wrong with the way some Nigerians reason in general ,  I lament that any African can depict African children in this manner, I condemn such cowardly acts of people under the guise of pseudo nick names  that choose to humiliate others ,  and wouldn't dare do this to your face,
You see, we can dream all we want. We can say all we want. We can make allegations and counter-allegations.
This site is about arguments and ideas.

But the picture posted and the idea behind it are products of EXTREME WICKEDNESS which needs to die before any genuine hope can emerge for Nigeria.

Can that wickedness die? I strongly doubt it.

In fact I can say that Igbos as a group are not beholden to self pity, which is why you find them in the same parts of Nigeria that orchestrated mass murder against them before.

But what the Igbo (or any group) can never forgive and forget is unrepentance.
Kids starved to death in Biafra. We may agree or disagree about what caused their deaths.
But if you have conscience (without which you cannot even sign and keep simple agreements), you would agree that the memory of those kids is sacrosanct and should be respected.

Anyone failing to do so is an animal, and Igbo have no business joining animals in any endeavor, no matter how important.
PoliticsRe: The Igbo/yoruba Relationship By Austin Orette (Niger-delta) by Onlytruth(m): 12:13am On Jan 24, 2011
Firstly, this article is a complete revisionist trash, with false dates and precedents.
The author talks about Zik aligning with the North in 1957 and the pogroms in the north after the coup in Jan 1966, while conveniently forgetting that Awo orchestrated the carpet crossing of 1953.
Most of Zik's actions really stem from that incidence because Zik felt that Awo could not be trusted, and he was right.
The author also forgot the Aburi Accord which would have effectively solved the problem without a single shot fired, all credit to the same Ojukwu he derided.  undecided

Secondly, I don't think the author is really from Niger delta. He is a masquerading Yoruba.
I've seen his type MANY times here in nairaland. Their strategy is always to put the blame on the Igbo for all of Nigeria's problems.

Look, what these guys fail to understand is that the Igbo WILL NOT care again about southern Nigeria, until other tribes in the south actually make the same sacrifices Igbo and her allies made in 1967-70.
That is what top Igbo leaders are doing. They don't give a rats @55 about Nigeria or even Southern Nigeria. So, they are busy feasting and plundering Nigeria alongside EVERYBODY else from North, West, South etc.

@ShangoThor


I like you because you are a very intelligent guy. I pity you though because you cannot see that your ideas here have FOUNDATIONAL problems.

To borrow from you: Fix the foundation, fix the problem!

You cannot fix the foundation when you have animals like fstranger1 posting pictures of starving Biafran children and saying this:

When was the last time you saw a Yoruba child looking this weak?
You see why till tomorrow Igbo would always believe that Yoruba plotted to wipe them out for trying to challenge the authority of the North?

You are a smart dude. GO FIGURE this!
PoliticsRe: 1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 10:10am On Jan 23, 2011
Couldn't help sharing this as well. Come with a subtitle to narrate how a Zaire girl and her lover "conquered" Kenya. When Africa was still innocent and not infected by xenophobia. A Zaire girl praising Kenya.

Nakei Nairobi. Mbilia Bel. Classic. 

I'm deliberately derailing this thread to infuse some positive energy to help balance things again.

Enjoy.

[flash=485,380]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5kq-BqeYE?fs=1&hl=en_US"[/flash]
PoliticsRe: 1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 9:57am On Jan 23, 2011
Posted by: dem_people
Guys, I've been missing all the action on this thread but seriously,

Aigbofa na la zi nwoke? I bin think say you're a one way street. Never knew you accommodate an extra lane. Its bad ooo.
grin y'all be killin' me I swear.

I'm shocked that this thread reached 6 pages with pure mudslinging and rant.

Anyway, here's some authentic African lady in her hay days. Enjoy!


[flash=480,385]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uewh-SIiI64?fs=1&hl=en_US"[/flash]
PoliticsRe: 1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 3:18am On Jan 23, 2011
^^

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin shocked grin
PoliticsRe: 1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 3:03am On Jan 23, 2011
@Aigbofa

"Aigbofa la nwoke, ifa kan o si ni para" (Your profile signature quote)

Just a little diversion, what does the above bolded mean in English. It has a very sinister meaning in Igbo.  grin grin grin
Igbo guys would be rollin' at the bolded.  shocked shocked
PoliticsRe: 1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 2:55am On Jan 23, 2011
Posted by: koruji
This is amazing, isn't it!!! You write two lies: one linking Awo to the Jan. 15 1966 coup, and the other other a "failed revolution" that led to his death". Then you quote your one lie to make the other look true.

It seems you actually believe your own lies!!! Congratulation, you are qualified to be admitted to Aro.
My friend take a breather!
It is a known fact that Awolowo was convicted and was serving a jail term for plotting to overthrow the first republic.  cool
He was in jail when the guys struck in Jan 1966.

Notice that I said he was "reported" to have died (committed suicide) because he was linked with another similar plot.
I didn't create that report.

If you have a more authentic account of why and how Awolowo died, why not share it?
PoliticsRe: 1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 2:29am On Jan 23, 2011
Posted by: PhysicsMHD
This is all unsupported conjecture.

Even the part about Anuforo being the ringleader over Ifeajuna seems incorrect.


And there is no way Awolowo, whose contempt for the NPC was quite real, would have stepped in to illegally replace them knowing he had openly talked about the Northerners being backwards and antagonized them (by attempting to campaign in the North) so even if this were true, which it isn't, it would only suggest that the coupists were dumb beyond belief, extremely ignorant, or delusional.
@first bolded:
You forget that Awolowo was involved in a plot to overthrow the government which led to his being jailed years before the 1966 coup. undecided
You also forget that Awolowo has been linked with another failed "revolution" which ultimately led to his death.
The man was always looking for ways to overthrow government. The Jan 1966 coupists knew this fact and wanted to deliver him his dreams on a platter.

@second bolded: SPOT ON!  cool
PoliticsRe: 1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 2:12am On Jan 23, 2011
Truth is really hard to suppress. The more chaotic things get in Nigeria, the more people are willing to step up and state the facts of history.
A nation with a distorted history cannot progress.
Politics1966 Coup Executed To Make Awo PM – Dr Emma Okocha by Onlytruth(op): 2:08am On Jan 23, 2011
[size=16pt]1966 coup executed to make Awo PM – Okocha[/size]

By SUNDAY ANI
Sunday, January 23, 2011

A social crusader and author of ‘Blood in the Niger,’ Dr Emma Okocha, in a fresh account of the events that led to the first coup in Nigeria, has dispelled the long-held view that the January 15, 1966 was championed by the Igbo.

In an exclusive interview with Sunday Sun, he said the coup was actually planned, organised and executed to enthrone Chief Obafemi Awolowo as the prime minister.

Besides, it was staged to stop the killings of civilians in Ijebu-Ode, Sagamu, Ibadan, Ikorodu as well as the Igbo in the northern region.
According to him, although Awolowo was in Calabar prisons for treason, he , along with some of his associates such as the late Tai Solarin, Lateef Jakande, Segun Osoba and the late Anthony Enahoro, had foreknowledge of the coup.

He also revealed that contrary to the widely held view that the coup was led by Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu, it was led by Major Christian Anuforo, who according to him, had a Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics and was the most intelligent of the seven majors that executed the putsch. He lamented that January 15, 1966 has been consigned to history and warned that until the event was put in proper perspective, Nigeria would not be able to make much progress.

[b]He condemned the excesses of state governors, who according to him, have gone beyond their constitutional brief of governing their states, to determining who becomes what in Nigeria. He recalled that it was such conduct by the governors that prepared grounds for the 1966 coup. [/b]He urged the governors to retrace their steps and save the country from a possible chaos.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/jan/23/national-23-01-2011-004.htm

BusinessRe: Corruption Not Nigeria’s Bane, Says World Bank by Onlytruth(m): 6:11pm On Jan 22, 2011
Posted by: ndu_chucks
Let me state that I completely agree with the assessment of Mr. Onno  Ruhl, the World Bank’s Country Director in Nigeria who stated: “I Don’t think it (corruption) is Nigeria ’s problem. I think corruption is important but I really don’t think it is the only thing or may be not the decisive thing” . How could anyone disagree with the statement. Many who are arguing that corruption is or is not the bane of Nigeria did not read the OP’s initial post and are probably responding to the deceptive title of the thread.

Now, you people have succeeded in identifying some causes of our backwardness including the items below:

    * An inappropriate system of government. (democracy cannot work where over 50million electorates cannot read or write. 1bad of rice = 50votes e.t.c)
    * Corruption
    * Ignorance due to lack of basis education of the masses
    * Flawed cultural values
    * Brain drain – Most of our intellectuals are abroad
    * Oil curse
    * Foreign Intervention
    * Lack of Determination
    * Unpatriotic Citizens
    * Nigeria not copying the Igbo spirit and trying to suppress it.(courtesy onye ara Onlytruth)  grin


Incredible value would be added to this thread, if our highly esteemed forumites who by definition are brighter and more intelligent than their ruler, or so they claim, proposed practical solutions to the said items.

Take you pick and lets hear your solutions.
hehehe! lmao!  grin grin

So what is YOUR pick?  huh
BusinessRe: Corruption Not Nigeria’s Bane, Says World Bank by Onlytruth(m): 6:07pm On Jan 22, 2011
Wao! Ten pages and Nigerians are still looking for the elephant in the room!  shocked shocked

The man was RIGHT.  cool

What can you achieve in life without DETERMINATION?  huh huh huh

What CAN'T you achieve in life without DETERMINATION?  huh huh huh

In Nigeria, tribalism obfuscates the search for truth.

Fear and hate is Nigeria's biggest problem.

Corruption is an effect not a cause!  cool

Think and embrace the facts.
PoliticsRe: APGA Rues Odumegwu-ojukwu’s Absence, Vows To Sweep S’east Polls by Onlytruth(op): 5:07am On Jan 22, 2011
lol @ PDP - party of brigands and marauders. grin

PDP go hear am for SE.

Except GEJ of course. cool
PoliticsAPGA Rues Odumegwu-ojukwu’s Absence, Vows To Sweep S’east Polls by Onlytruth(op): 5:05am On Jan 22, 2011
[size=16pt]APGA Rues Odumegwu-Ojukwu’s Absence, Vows To Sweep S’East Polls [/size]

CHAIRMAN, All Progressive Grand Alliance, (APGA) Ebonyi State, Jerry Obasi, has regretted the ill-health of the party’s leader and Ikemba of Nnewi, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, saying that it would have been glorious for him to witness the resurgence of the party in the South-East in this year’s elections.

Obasi, who spoke with The Guardian against the backdrop of the recent primaries of the party in Ebonyi, noted that the intractable leadership crisis that bedeviled APGA had held it down for a long time with most people wondering what the future holds for the it.

However, he added that recent upsurge of high-profile politicians coming into the party has shown that APGA was on the move again.

He contended that if “these big names are coming into APGA at this point in the party’s history despite the unavoidable absence of the leader and conscience of the party, it follows that the party has bounced back as the political platform of progressive-minded Nigerians and Nd’Igbo.”

He said with the prospects of credible elections, the party’s electoral fortunes at the polls would astound the nation.

Denying that the party deferred its primaries to await the conclusion of the ones conducted by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Obasi said though his party had benefited from the fallout of the PDP primaries, it was unfair to dismiss APGA as a clearance house for failed aspirants.

He stressed that in any democratic system, political parties remained open to new membership at all times.
On the emergence of former Nigeria’s Ambassador to Greece, Franklin Ogbuewu, as the APGA governorship candidate in Ebonyi, Obasi submitted that Ogbuewu’s political clout and pedigree must have intimidated other aspirants from opposing him.

He said: “We are talking of a former Nigeria’s Ambassador to Greece, a former Minister of Culture and Tourism and a colourful politician. What happened is that his antecedents and pedigree must have frightened any possible challenge against him. And with the general mood in the state following his emergence as governorship candidate of APGA, Ogbuewu is sure to clinch the governorship polls in April.”

Obasi vowed that APGA would defeat PDP in Ebonyi, saying that infighting and imposition of candidates would render the party ineffective in the state.

His words: “PDP deludes itself that it is the only party in Ebonyi but we shall wake them up from their delusive reverie. The outcome of the general elections in the state would show that power no longer belongs to brigands and marauders.”

He charged the law enforcement agencies to play a neutral and patriotic role during the election by protecting voters and electoral officials.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36204:apga-rues-odumegwu-ojukwus-absence-vows-to-sweep-seast-polls&catid=1:national&Itemid=559
BusinessRe: Corruption Not Nigeria’s Bane, Says World Bank by Onlytruth(m): 2:49am On Jan 22, 2011
^^

grin grin grin

How can you ignore the elephant in the room? huh cool
I am ignoring you! lmao. cool cool leaves them to continue fooling themselves.
BusinessRe: Corruption Not Nigeria’s Bane, Says World Bank by Onlytruth(m): 2:33am On Jan 22, 2011
Posted by: Katsumoto
The discussion has been devoid of tribalism [/b]for 7 pages but in your true delusional self, you find a way to introduce Igbo supremacy to it. If it was down to just DETERMINATION, I am sure you could have found a way to leave ,   (I don't want to derail the thread).
You meant that the discussion has been devoid of the truth for 7 pages. Nigeria has been discussing for 43 years since after the war. Notice that the country was developing [b]before the war, but has been stagnant or not developing enough since the war ended.

You keep forgetting that I am a Nigerian like you and I have seen all types of so called discussion
Nigerians can discuss for ever and still not achieve anything because they hate acknowledging a group which can help save the country.

Ok, carry  on discussing.  undecided undecided
BusinessRe: Corruption Not Nigeria’s Bane, Says World Bank by Onlytruth(m): 2:27am On Jan 22, 2011
Posted by: fstranger1
^^^^@ Onlytruth
You see what you just did

Tribal chest beating.    .     . you going to regret it!
I only said the truth and you know I am saying the truth.
Every top country of the world tap into the best of their citizens.
The US has Jews and they have been one of the driving forces of American ingenuity.
The Jews are not suppressed. They are appreciated and nurtured.

Nigeria has Igbo, but they are discriminated against and marginalized.

All Nigerian groups can copy the Igbo spirit, but how do you copy what you vilify?
You have to accept it first.
BusinessRe: Corruption Not Nigeria’s Bane, Says World Bank by Onlytruth(m): 2:18am On Jan 22, 2011
Corruption is bad. No question about it. But the man is right. All you need do is examine his preferred solution.
He says that "determination" is the greatest asset of any nation, and I think he is spot on! cool

Take one example.

In Anambra state during the Dr Chris Ngige governorship, no sane Anambra person will swear that Ngige was a saint and did not tamper with state coffers. But the man delivered MANY first rate roads. He delivered, BIG TIME inspite of being hounded by the OBJ backed thugs and being kidnapped. He soldiered on and won the hearts of the people by delivering dividends of democracy.

Take another example.

Nigeria has only performed well in sports competition when we had determined representatives.

I remember one African Champions Cup match between Iwuanyanwu  Nationale and Tonnerre of Cameroon in the late 80s.
The Cameroonians had played a 1-1 draw at Owerri and was boasting that they would destroy the Nigerians in Yaounde.

Guess what, they never knew there was a Nigerian called Friday Ekpo.
The Iwuanyanwu team fought like lions in Yaounde with Ekpo banging in two goals! undecided shocked cool
The match ended 2-2 and Nigeria qualified on away goal rule.
I bet you that there may have been corruption in selection of players , but luckily, the players were very determined to win.

This also explains why Igbo outperform other groups in Nigeria. Ndigbo hustle and are VERY DETERMINED in pursuit of a goal.

For Nigeria to move forward, she needs to copy the Igbo spirit and not try to suppress it.
It is the ONLY WAY to develop, corruption or not!  cool cool cool
PoliticsRe: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Onlytruth(m): 1:51am On Jan 22, 2011
Posted by: asha 80
people in nnewi have already done that and that is the reason we are even having this discussion in the first place after all nnewi was neither a strategic place for the colonialist nor is it the state capital but the indegenes made it what is is now.

dependency syndrome has already being created because of the kind of 'federalism' or is it rent economy we are practising.
Thank you for the bolded words.


Posted by: cheikh
@Nwa Nnewi

Pls what's the role of the Local and State governments in all of this if the Federal is expected to 'infuse' some money to motivate and compensate etc? Are you not expecting too much from a 'faraway' federal government?  Think small/ local solutions for local problems. It's obvious that infrastructural development/planning for the town will have a far reaching impact locally/nationally and internationally so the local government should be the prime mover of the vision/ sell the idea adequately to the State government before 'outsiders' or 'faraway' federal will become interested for obvious political gain just like the 'Airports' in various parts of the country. Politicians do not have long range plans especially in Nigeria where words like 'Planning' and 'Masterplan' etc are 'turanci' Wink Only local people and perhaps serious State governments can effect tangible solutions for local/state matters- hence in my earlier post I asked - what happened to the Igbo? renowned for self help/ community spirit? Did the war also destroy/rip their creativity apart? I sincerely do not believe that. Serious thinking is needed and not 'dependency' syndrome- on a 'faraway' inept federal government.
I generally agree with the first bolded except that I believe that Nnewi hosts some strategic industries (auto and technical ) which should attract the interest and attention of the federal government. That is standard practice in all the advanced countries of the world. Nigeria has simply chosen to remain backward by ignoring this town irrespective of the prospects of these industries.

I also think that the second bolded may not be far from the truth. Since Biafra, Igbo have not been the same.  cry cry cry Today, I struggle to see the attributes which made it possible for Igbo to fight in Biafra. What we have now is this strange, dark, foreign, "soul-less" culture, cry cry cry whereby every public official is after his/her own purse. That is not Ndigbo. That culture was imposed by the civil war victors.

Having said that, I am a LOCAL man cool (if you get my drift), I believe in solving my own problems, and most Nnewi folks think like that.

I believe in implementing the existing master plan piecemeal. It is still possible. All the state government needs to do is find the right partnership between the state and local business people (and even Nnewi folks throughout Nigeria and beyond). The state government will need the services of a competent consulting firm to orchestra this action.

We can save the town and develop it properly.

I still have to point the blame first to leadership at the state level. Nnewi is a multibillion naira town. All that is needed is the right leadership at the state level.
PoliticsRe: Nwodo: South-east Governors Are Not Interested In Replacement by Onlytruth(op): 4:30am On Jan 21, 2011
These governors are the most politically savvy we've had in a long time in SE.
PDP chairmanship is an empty shell.

I say give it to any other zone that cares! undecided undecided

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