₦airaland Forum

Beaf:
It should be fairly easy to stop such cheating. We already know all the ethnic groups in Nigeria and no artificial "new" ones will be allowed to form. In fact, everyone would laugh if Ekiti people suddenly declared they were no longer Yoruba!
As Obiagu suggested, we could also write all the ethnic groups into the constitution and seal it.

Why can't we do that today?
Well, the answer is because of the very same problems that will manifest then -people denying their ethnic group just to hoodwink the rest of us!

We have that already in Nigeria, which is why Ohanaeze pressed hard for ethnicity to be included in the census forms, an idea which was rejected by Obasanjo.

So that can only happen AFTER Nigeria disintegrates. I don't see it happening under one Nigeria. The system is a cesspit.

Andre Uweh:
@Bianca: Well done Loolo Ojukwu. One good turn deserves another. Am happy for the progress your husband is making in his battle against stroke.

That babe will ultimately play a role in politics and leadership one of these days. She is so intelligent and maintain nerves of steal in the face of challenges.
I only hope bro Jona no dey eye am o! Anyway, Patience dey mark am closely! hehehe!

Say whatever you like, bro Jona is leading well.
The man has his head on his shoulders!

[size=16pt]Bianca, Ojukwu’s wife, pays tribute to Jonathan[/size]

London—Bianca, the wife of Chief Emeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, has described President Goodluck Jonathan as a great leader.

Bianca made the remarks when she received a goodwill message on behalf of her husband from Jonathan’s special envoy and Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, Dr Aliyu Idi Hong, on Sunday in a London hospital where he is receiving treatment.

Bianca, who expressed gratitude for the message, said: “It is a sign of a great leader with a great deal of empathy not just for a single individual but for the people he seeks to lead.

“It is very rare indeed. I am privileged to receive on behalf of his family and his party, APGA, from the president and the people of Nigeria such a goodwill message.

“We remain immensely grateful, God Bless you all,’’ the Europe correspondent of the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) quotes Bianca as saying.

She recalled that before Ojukwu was flown abroad, the president had visited him in his residence to pay respect and wished him quick recovery.

Similarly, she added, in August last year, Jonathan also sent an emissary to convey his best wishes and hopes for a quick recovery when Ojukwu was undergoing medical tests in the U.S.

Bianca also expressed gratitude to Mr Dozie Nwanna, Nigeria’s Acting High Commissioner to the U.K for his support.

Earlier, Hong said Ojukwu was one of the very eminent persons who Nigerians were proud of, adding that his state of health was very paramount to Jonathan, hence the need for the visit.

“Mr President feels very concerned and he wanted to know the actual state of his health and how he is doing and to also show empathy and concern about his health, so for that reason, he specifically asked me to come.

“If only you know how I was conscripted very urgently for this purpose, you will know the importance which Mr president attaches to his health,” the minister said.

“I have seen him, let me speak as a doctor now, he is under proper care and doing well.
“I think by every standard, one will say he is in the best of hands, I wish him quick recovery,” Hong said.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/01/bianca-ojukwus-wife-pays-tribute-to-jonathan/

udezue:
There is no way on earth the Igbo will even join the Hausa against the Yoruba. To prove what point? As long as the Yoruba keep the battle within Ore Igbos wont bart and eyelid whattey do with the Hausa and as long as Hausa stays far away from teh East the Igbo wont care unless we are sure we have something to gain like driving theor moronic selves deep into Chad and Niger.

Someone has already mentioned the fact that ND or Ijaw agitations will never be taken seriously until Igbos are involved. I leave it at that. Ijaws need to use their heads.

As for joining with the Hausa against Yoruba, it depends on what the Yorubas do.
If they want to replay their treachery against the East, anything is possible. That is why it is in Nigeria's collective interest that there is a negotiated peace in that country, not a forced peace or one obtained through backstabbing and treachery.
Only foreigners gain in a waring Nigeria.
A word is enough for the wise.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=578240.msg7451972#msg7451972 date=1294041914]What I quoted sounds like a personal issue _[yours] to me.
hehehe

I cant say mikeasny's posts are scintillating again? Move over jor [/quote]You can say anything you want just don't pretend you are fair minded.
Scintillating ko Scimitar ni!

careytommy:
Funny Thread. I'm from AI. Truth be told, ibos will not suffer in a landlocked country. I'm serving in delta n most non-aniomas seem to adore the yorubas. If most ibos share the same sentiments as ezeuche, then it will in the interest of annang/efik/ibibios, ikwerres n ogonis to be on their own. That aside, i'm a biafra apologist

I know you know that most Igbos are not like that, which is part of why you are a Biafra apologist.

alj harem1:
onlytruth brother, i still need sometime to clear my head for what ojukwu put me through 

onlytruth, you do not even want to know what i went through because of this man

What did you go through that 2 million Easterners didn't experience 100 times?

WTF are you even talking about?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=578240.msg7451816#msg7451816 date=1294038713]Honestly, we need more Igbos like mikeansy around.

His posts are so interesting, so flattering to the mind [/quote]Because he is anti-Jonathan or what? You are not making sense.

The man was off point about Jonathan's letter to Ojukwu. Press people always get their hands on things like this, afterall the letter was sent to the Nigerian High Commission in London.

I don't believe that Jonathan sent a copy to the press.

mikeansy:
But out of curiousity why is what should be a private letter from the Nigerian President to another sick Nigerian for public consumption?

Honestly this is sickening and I find it despicable that anyone who claims to care about Ojukwu celebrates the use of Ojukwu's trying times to score cheap political points. You can only feel sorry for his family.

Though I would agree that there is some politics going on, I totally disagree with other aspects of your point.

Jonathan has followed Ojukwu's health situation closely from the last time he visited Ojukwu in his Enugu residence.
Incidentally the great lion of Biafra had stroke a few days later.

Even while frantic efforts were being made to transport him overseas, Jonathan kept in constant touch, calling his family and following up. Therefore this letter did not fall out of the skies. The man is only continuing with what he started.

I won't even be surprised if Jonathan and the FG is directly involved in taking care of Ojukwu's medical expenses either.

There is only one Ojukwu in Nigeria.
Even his worst foes in Nigeria respect him and see him as one of the last titans in Nigeria.

Just my thoughts.

udezue:
Alj Harem is Igbo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AN Igbo Goat.

LOL!

You say you are remotely Igbo; why do you have this quote on your profile:

i am the new igwe of igboland bleep ojukwu

How many colors do you have on a normal day?

No Igbo or even Easterner or friend of Igbo will say that.

You see why people laugh when you say you are Igbo?

alj harem1:
onlytruth brother, to be honest with you, i think Jonathan's letter is very very mature and sensible of him to do(although we know it is politics) but it is still very good

i still do not think jonathan has really satisfy the north,, although he has made various promises just like OBJ did in his 2nd term bid

but still i think jonathan should have done something sensible when he was in office for about 9months

well lets see how the election will go

Thank you. I like his type of mature and sensible politics.

Jonathan will do something when he is elected, don't worry about that. He is already doing something. He is probably trying to ensure that he gets the credit for the power supply plans he initiated already.

He wouldn't want another dude to come in and claim his works.

alj harem1:
thank God he is getting better

lets us just keep praying for him,,,and not give up until he returns to us in form back,,

onlytruth how are you na?

hope you are good brother

I'm fine. What are your latest schemes?

What do you think about Jonathan's letter to Ojukwu?

The man knows his true base; don't you think?

The West has Obasanjo.
The North has IBB and Buhari.
The East has Ojukwu!

alj harem1:
^^^^

tell me about it brother

what is the latest update on ojukwu's health

Information is that he is recovering and should return better than he left. Good enough for me.

The great lion is missing in action.

But dis my bros Jonathan sabi politics well well!

Don't write him off I swear!

[size=16pt]President writes Ojukwu[/size]

By Our Correspondent
Monday, 3 Jan 2011


President Goodluck Jonathan has wished the ailing Ikemba Nnewi Chief Chukwuemeka Odumegwu, Ojukwu a quick recovery.

Ojukwu is currently recuperating in a London hospital where he was flown to on December 24, 2010, for further treatment for stroke.

In a personal letter dated December 31, 2010, Jonathan prayed for Ojukwu’s full recuperation from the ailment.

A copy of the letter, sent to Ojukwu through the Nigerian High Commission in London, was made available to State House correspondents in Abuja on Saturday.

“I write, on behalf of my family, the government and people of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, to convey to you our earnest wishes for your very quick recovery from your indisposition.

“Ever since you took ill and had to be flown abroad for medical attention, I have followed your progress with keen interest.

“It is, therefore, a source of great relief for me to learn of the fact that you are getting better and very well on the way to recovery,’’ the President wrote in the letter.

Jonathan prayed God to grant Ojukwu “many more years of robust health, enduring strength and uncommon wisdom.”

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201101031349439

Abagworo:
Ola Edo is also an Igbo name meaning golden jewel.Quite a common name.

Mistranslation. 

Ola edo means GOLD. Jewel is not part of its literal meaning.

Ola means metal.

Edo means golden color (yellowish of sorts) in Igbo.  Ola ocha in Igbo means whitish metal -Silver.

Quote me on that. 

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=576482.msg7442018#msg7442018 date=1293833361]Interesting, so there is a link in the two languages   [/quote]I believe Ola in Yoruba means wealth.
No link there.

I'm laughing.  

At times like these I miss the great lion of Biafra and his direct talks. He would have called it the way it is!
Everybody is hiding and speaking with water in their mouths. Nobody is calling a spade a spade.  

I am more concerned that Ohanaeze Ndigbo may not have any plans at all in case Nigeria starts to come apart.
I don't think MASSOB has any plans either.

For all these years, countless number of Nigerians have called for a Sovereign National Conference to negotiate Nigeria. They all fell on deaf ears.

It seems as if someone is working diligently to plunge Nigeria into a terminal civil war.


Happy New Year ndu_chucks, and GOOD MORNING!  

revolt:
Alj harem is def not igbo. I hear all dialects of igbo but I'm not too fluent in speech and what they asked him to interpret was cheap. There's room for you but you've got to be industrious and liase with i

Of course he is not.

This video reminds me how beautiful and innocent my home culture is.

[flash=480,385]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2b9UIZTTOo?fs=1&hl=en_US"[/flash]

alj harem1:
is this one mad

why should i stay out of there issue when i am igbo myself

so because i do not support some of the thing you people want me to say makes me a non-igbo

u see how silly you sound

Translate this Igbo:

"Anam eme ka efi"

If you can't, then shame on you!

alj harem1:
i can not translate because i do not really know the language

just because stayed in lagos for some year,,,does that mean i can read yoruba

even kanuri is difficult for me not to talk of igbo and my father is kanuri

onlytruth,,u know my father don't you

[size=20pt]
Shame on you![/size]

You claim to have lived in a typical Igbo state for 15 years but you cannot translate the most basic Igbo.
Either you have donkey brain or you are a pathetic liar.

Nobody believed you anyway.

I think you are the Northern version of Becomerich. hehehe!!

bidemi12:
reeetard response as usual from a nairalander. trash collection that is non existent and epileptic where it exist. state workers that are owed wages months at a time. teachers? let me not even go there. hospitals that are no better than chemists. schools where students sit on rocks to recieve classes. bridges that might collapse anytime. metro rail? yeah right. [/b]My guy did you even read my post in the first place. can you honestly say how much is coming into the state treasury and how much is being spent? you dont know do you? neither do i so i want to know. Has there ever been a credible audit? [b]please digest and respond intelligently.

That guy is incapable of intelligent discourse. Watch what he will say next.

@Nairalanders,

Mark my word, one day they will ask us to pay for EXISTING, and even collect death tax.

Tax/Toll is both good and bad. Only the bad part exists in Nigeria. The good part (tax dividends like good roads without tolls) never materializes.

Jail thieving politicians first before imposing a penny toll on hapless citizens.  

@ alj harem

You say you lived in Anambra state for 15 years, okay translate this simple Anambra Igbo:

"Anam eme ka efi"

Waiting. . .

[quote author=Jomo-gbomo link=topic=576879.msg7434374#msg7434374 date=1293721995]how many times do you m[i]a[/i]sturbate in a week?[/quote]

Nigerians go wound me o! lmao!

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=575699.msg7432125#msg7432125 date=1293692440]I concede that the ticket will be weak in the SE and SS, but not all of the middle belt. And it will absolutely be dominant in the core North. Buhari voters don't really care who the VP is so long as Buhari is frontlining the ticket. They have no love for GEJ, lol
Who agreed to 24 years? Whoever did certainly doesn't speak for me or mine.
There are always short cuts for those intelligent and nimble enough to find them.[/quote]Good luck with your short cut in Nigeria. We dey wait.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=576642.msg7432108#msg7432108 date=1293692029]Tolls are not only for bridges. We have the Sam Houston tollway in Houston, for example.

No difference in raising taxes and just directly raising money through tolls.

120 is not even a buck. GSay two trips a day, 25 trips a month, that is 50*120 = 6000 naira, $40 only. eTag knocks off 10%, dropping to $36. Factor in gas savings, the value of his time (shorter commute >> longer commute), etc, and the net cost might be more like $15 or $20.

And if he is too cheap to pay for this, then he has the option of taking public transportation, or taking a longer route. Or selling his property and moving back east, if he so desires  [/quote]Believe me YOUR PEOPLE will complain about this toll before mine. We dey survive everywhere.
My point is that Nigerians copy things without even thinking. Mental laziness is the problem.

Tolls are serious stuff in a developing country like Nigeria.
If you collect taxes, you have no moral justification to toll an ordinary road.

ACN/Fashola wonder indeed! 

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=576642.msg7432067#msg7432067 date=1293691070]One way or another, citizens will pay for roads. If the government builds a road and provides it for "free", you'll pay for it through taxes, interest payments on the money the government borrows to finance the loan (roughly 22% is the rate in Nigeria, iirc), loss of other services, etc.
LCC was financed through banks in South Africa and Australia, where interest rates are much, much cheaper. I'd much rather finance capital-intensive projects with cheap credit rather than expensive credit.

Long story short, nothing in the world comes for free. You'll pay for it one way or another.
There is obviously a discount for volume usage. Did any of you guys actually look at the rates before complaining about the prices? 10 times a day is at least 250 times a month. You get a 20% discount on mnotorcycles and 50% for most other classes of vehicles:

http://lcc.com.ng/News/NewsContent.aspx?newsid=27[/quote]My math was off a little so I fixed it. But you get the idea.

Yes, I read in the newspaper about the proposed tolls. Cars are N120 a pass.
My relative owns a house at Lekki and he is complaining bitterly.

Charge the damn thing on taxes, but leave folks alone to go about their business.

Tolls are for specific things like bridges. I know they have started adding other things like ordinary roads, but must we copy every idea without thinking.

lagbaja20:
THis post contradicts your previous post below

Your misguided permutation assumes the PDP would continue to be in power forever.

What we are saying that 'he who dares wins'.  May the best organized group continue to stay relevant!

And you think that only Yoruba know how to vote along tribal lines.

Tell me why NCNC controlled Eastern region and Midwest, and NPP controlled Eastern parts of Nigeria plus middle belt in the 80s. AG and UPN never controlled outside of SW.

Dude, Yoruba vote cannot take anybody anywhere. Abiola was a flash in the pan and he was still stopped.

We are ALREADY organizing. Watch APGA next year!

Next year will bring us back to reckoning after many years of Obasanjo brigandage and vote theft in Igboland.
Just watch.

We are only interested in GEJ presidency next year (PDP) or Igbo presidency in 2015

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=576642.msg7431945#msg7431945 date=1293688147]Frustrating, this is going to scare away investors from other infrastructure projects . Terrible news for a capital-starved country like Nigeria. If the LCC fails in Lagos (the most business-friendly region in Nigeria), then why would anyone want to fund roads elsewhere?  

Also, the tolls iirc are not that high. Why do people want to have good things (nice roads) w/o paying for them?

Finally, what penalties (if any) will the Lagos State gov't have to pay for violating their agreement with the LCC?[/quote]Well, does it occur to you that the citizen already pay taxes and have daily expenses to take care off?
Why should any sane person toll an ordinary road?
Out here in the states, most tolled roads I know have bridges.
Why are you tolling an ordinary road?

I'm even saying these because I don't want any Igbo or Eastern state to copy that nonsense. Government build roads and maintain them. That is why people pay taxes.
How can any sane person pay N120 each passing on a road he rely on daily to earn a living? Supposing he has to pass that gate 10 times a day; it is conscionable to charge him N1200 on that day?

Eastern governors: [size=14pt]DON'T COPY THIS S%^T! [/size]

dayokanu:
If GEJ wins that means he gets 8 yrs after which the baton returns to the North. Possibly Sambo who does another 8yrs.

Thats 16yrs combined. Where does the SE stand in all of these?

Any reasonable South Easterner would know that the GEJ and PDP continual reign can only mean Igbos wont smell presidency until 2027 at the earliest

That means Yoruba will smell it in 2048! hehe! 

I don't know why folks come here to say irrelevant things. 
If GEJ wins ( and I pray fervently that he wins! ) Igboland will be transformed within 8 years of his rule.
Actually Nigeria will be transformed, and Igboman gains most in a functional system 'cos we hustle !

Anytime it (presidency) comes to Igboland, it must come before it goes to Yorubaland. That's my point.

lagbaja20:
You are highly misguided
The most important thing in politics is 'organization'; the more organized you are, the better your chances and the two most organised groups in Nigerian politics are the core North, and the SW.

SS and SE have never mattered in the grand scheme of things. Very easy to get the SS onbaord, promise them the senate presidents. SS, can never and will never become president in Nigeria. In the present arrangement,it is luck, and I repeat, LUCK, more than political brilliance, that made a SS the president. The SW vote, a very crucial one is not GIVEN for GEJ. present a Yoruba as vice, see the SW go gaga for a Buhari/Yoruba ticket. Give the SS the senate president and see how they all go for ACN. Like Abiola said, who needs the Igbos, the truth is that ACN does not need them, we only need to carry the SS along in the south while Buhari works his magic in the North. in 1993, Abiola lost in the whole of Alaigbo; yet, won the total election by 'moonslide'

As for the north, that is why we have Buhari. And, in your twisted mind, do you actually think that the north, mid west included, would go for GEJ over Buhari? Like someone said somewhere else, with Buhari on the ticket, the North would be won over on BBC Hausa; lets see how GEJ or a SE would fare on BBC Hausa.

I personally do think that a Yoruba should not be on any ticket next year, but eh, why should Tinubu care about some stupit zoning, he is in it for his people, not for Alaigbo

Until Alaigbo puts her house in order, political relevancy would continue to elude her. Gone are the days of Zik, Okadigbo and Ekwueme, right now there is no Igbo man brilliant enough to lead the Igbo nation.
That my friend is the reality, you have to live with it.

Every permutation stops after PDP primaries. If GEJ wins (and I believe he will), NO combination can defeat him in the general elections.
If he loses, then a lot of permutations come into play. I really don't think that Buhari will pick a Yoruba for VP because he would lose.
Nigerians have that at the back of their minds that a Yoruba was president from 1999 - 2007. You can believe whatever you want. In fact the thought of a Yoruba on the presidential ticket of any serious national party will piss a lot of folks OUTSIDE OF SW off, especially if GEJ loses the primaries. If Atiku is the PDP flag bearer, he will pick a SE candidate if he is serious and he will win. He has the likes of Soludo, Nnamani, Okonjo-Iweala to pick as future president in waiting. I don't see any SW politician with better pedigree than those folks.

For the Igbo, it is all about 2015. And we start next year.