₦airaland Forum

ndu_chucks:
@Onlytruth, olodo. Continue trying to convince yourself that you are not bigoted - the truth is that you are very much bigoted and even the blind can see that.

Merry Xmas in advance, though something tells me that you may be an animist or idol worshiper who would be a regular patron of Okija schrine, Nzukari schrine, Nwakodikpu schrine, and others like them.

They are still better than whatever demon you are worshiping which drive you to kill the unarmed and innocent.
Igbo gods never accepted such practices.

So, ndu_chucks, here you go. Please I don't know how to pronounce Toro.
I call it Tolo. Please don't hack my head off after being your next door neighbor for 32 years! 

quote from Araba by ndu_chucks:

This is an eyewitness account of Araba, which took place in kaduna before the civil war. Araba means (let's share it) in hausa. Chuckwuma Nzeogwu led a coup wherein the most revered leader of the northerners, the Sadauna of Sokoto was killed while he slept. Sadauna had a home in Kaduna which was bombed by the coupists resulting to the cold blooded murder of Sadauna and the members of his family who were at the house during the bombing. This singular act of murder did not sit very well with Sadauna's subjects - they believed wholeheartedly that the coup was carried out by Igbos and was a declaration of war in which a retaliation was mandatory.

The following is a miniaturized account of an eyewitness to one such retaliatory act.

The elders decided on a day in which a house to house search would be conducted in Kaduna, for Ndigbos who had not yet fled the city. Every suspect would be shown the old three pence, and asked to identify the coin. Three pence was called Toro by all and sundry in kaduna, the Igbos however pronounced Toro as Tolo. Once a suspect is found and identified as Igbo by anyone in the Araba mob, he/she was summarily beaten to death, burnt in some cases, and all of the belongings found in the victims' houses were looted (hence Araba). Those that pronounced toro as tolo were also summarily beaten to death.

The mob went from street to street, house to house, in search of Igbos, killing the unlucky ones that could not escape.

ndu_chucks:
You are associating random acts of violence including killing pregnant women, with the acts of a whole ethnic group!!  As far as you are concerned, all Hausa/Fulani people are guilty of this act.  Your statement is as bigoted and senseless, as stating that all Igbos are cannibals because a few Abriba people and some from your very own area, are known to love to eat human flesh.

I repeat, repent!

You see my point?
You are equating a SINGLE ACT by a mentally challenged individual with acts committed by THOUSANDS of marauding and rampaging group! How are they comparable?

You organized a pogrom against another tribe, killing everything in your path including pregnant women, and you are here trying a convoluted logic.

My friend you are really your father's son! Chei aboki!

ndu_chucks:
I must be onto something, e be like say my truth pain you small. The bolded portion above confirms that my conclusions about you people are well reasoned. Some of the kindest, most trustworthy, most godly, and most beautiful people in Nigeria are Hausa/Fulani.  I[b] am convinced that you have never had a close relationship with any Hausa or Fulani person in your entire life and your opinions about them are based on what you read on newspapers written by similarly bigoted  “journalists[/b]” like you. Repent olodo.

I am responding to the bolded because I understand the game you are playing more than you.

Suffice it to say that my immediate family lived in Kano from 1938 to 1966. They returned briefly after the war and stayed till 1975.
Believe me, you probably cannot find an Igboman with a better understanding of Hausa/Fulani mentality.

You cannot understand what drives Igbo people to anger because you are IMMUNE to love and justice. You even kill the unborn. In all the years of Nigeria's crisis, I can't remember an Easterner killing a pregnant woman and cutting open her guts.

You people have no equal in Africa.

I'm not here to convince you.

Do you see any Tiv here bragging? NO.

Do you see any Jukun, Idoma, Nupe or any of the northern minorities who constituted about 80% of the Nigerian infantry bragging here? NO!

What you see are Yorubas whose land was already occupied by northern troops in 1967 without raising a finger.
The same people are here yapping like byieeches in heat.

I would repeat my advise to my Igbo brothers:
IGNORE THESE people because they are irrelevant as far as Nigeria's militarism is concerned.

Even the Ijaw command more respect in my eyes than these folks. At least some of them have fought for something against the Nigerian state even if marginally.

When it was time for Yorubas to fight, they all ran to London and the few left were simply rounded up by Abacha and shot. Nothing happened.

MSCHEEEW!

I say Ignore them!

. Smoking!

kobojokobo:
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=59947

I checked the link above and there was no Adenuga's name on it. Neither was I able to find Otedola's nor OBJ's

You are looking at the wrong website. Try EFCC's website and count Yorubas on it.

Akin-Egba:
Haba! We Yorubas are not thieves. We are saints who cant hurt a fly. Dont you see we own Adeboye and TB Joshua and Bank-ole?

rollin' on da flo!

Yes I see!

kobojokobo:
Foreign airlines? Chei?

Do you mean those private jets owned by prominent Ndi igbos flying mfrom Colombia to Enugu non -stop. The type owned bypeople like  Tobechi Enyinna Onwuhara ?

The ones owned by your thieving brothers Adenuga, Otedola and Obasanjo, flying stolen OIL money from Lagos to foreign bank accounts?

Akin-Egba:
[size=14pt]Our envy too much[/size]. Olorun Oba o!!!

Some folks will die even before the airport starts full operations.
No wonder why it had been stifled for YEARS on.

I would advise my Igbo folks to focus on this airport. It holds the key to our future in Nigeria.

Ochi_Agha:
Which South-East governor has the best leadership qualities? Is it Sullivan Chime? Is it Peter Obi? Is it Martin Elechi? I know it isn't T.A. Orji or Ohakim. This is something I want to know.

I think that Enugu and Anambra governors are the best in Igboland for now. Each is different in style of leadership though.
Peter Obi is more of a consensus and bridge builder, suitable for a south east conglomerate leader of the future. Sullivan is a better political leader in the sense that he understands that people need to see things that make them feel that government is working. Peter Obi worries more about economic sustainability of a project. He is a business man.  
So, in terms of Igbo leadership in the future, a Peter Obi will be more successful in my view.

In terms of developing the south east into an economically dominant force in Nigeria, Sullivan Chime has the drive and ambition, but will need the guidance of Obi or maybe Soludo.

If we can form this conglomerate, these guys can go there after they leave office. We need experience in leadership for the company to be very successful.

I am happy that the south east governors are at least united now, unlike in the days of Orji Kalu.
With Peter Obi's style of politics, one of these days we will have a south eastern conglomerate like we had before the war.
We need business and development, and no one will do them for us. This airport is an asset. And when fully functional, could shift the Nigerian economy to where it should be.

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Ileke-IdI:
Is this the Enugu Int'l airport we've been discussing so proudly on NL?
I was expecting it to kick azz.  Like one of those Japanese/Chinese airports.
Ohh, they're still renovating it I guess.

Yes, they are. But the main truth is that it will not be what it should be if left for the federal government.

It should be taken over by a private company and run as a business. With all the money at its disposal, the federal government has not upgraded ANY of the international airports facilities to make them suitable for serious business.

Look, anytime I think of Nigeria's problems, all I see are opportunities, BUT first things first. If the political structure is not in place, no business idea can thrive there.

Akin-Egba:
I know that buildings do not define an airport more than runways and signs, but this building does not tell a good story of an international airport. Pathetic building, really.

None of Nigeria's so called international airports have buildings worth their status. So, I am not too concerned about that for now.
I think that the airport should be concessioned to a private company owned partially by the south eastern states governments. We can build a true world class facility there. All we need is the international designation.
Other things will follow naturally.
This airport can quickly become the busiest in Nigeria. It all depends on what the Igbo decide to do about it. We can't keep waiting for the federal government for everything. That is unlike us.

I really think that the Yoruba is irrelevant as far as Biafra is/was concerned. Biafra could have won the war decisively if the Eastern leaders planned it well.

I really think that the Yorubas have been given too much attention for either outcome of the war, which is why they talk about it more than those who actually fought the war against Biafra -namely northern minorities.

The Igbo say that when men finish fighting, women take over the talking and bragging part. I believe that is what Yoruba folks here have been doing. I advise my Igbo brothers to ignore them and focus on the men we fought - the northerners, because if we don't, we waste our attention on irrelevant things.
No one knows what will still happen in Nigeria. We should not waste our attention on those who can't sway the war either way.

eku_bear:
I think this is a good development. Strong regional opposition parties will either cause the PDP to dramatically improve/reform, or wither away.

I would make a prediction; regional parties will eventually dethrone the PDP. We will have three strong national parties -each springing from the East, West and North.

I suspect that the very strong ones will be from the southern parts. The only strong northern parties may be religious based ('cos that is what they use to organize themselves) eventually because I don't see a northern party producing leaders that can match those from the East and West.

All these are assuming that Nigeria will stay together.

I really think that the Yoruba is irrelevant as far as Biafra is/was concerned. Biafra could have won the war decisively if the Eastern leaders planned it well.

I really think that the Yorubas have been given too much attention for either outcome of the war, which is why they talk about it more than those who actually fought the war against Biafra -namely northern minorities.

The Igbo say that when men finish fighting, women take over the talking and bragging part. I believe that is what Yoruba folks here have been doing. I advise my Igbo brothers to ignore them and focus on the men we fought - the northerners, because if we don't, we waste our attention on irrelevant things.
No one knows what will still happen in Nigeria. We should not waste our attention on those who can't sway the war either way.

ndu_chucks:
I am tempted to believe that the kind of hatred spewed by the above post is not isolated to a few individuals such as the poster, but is entrenched deep in the hearts of people like Onlytruth, Eziachi, and others from their ethnic group.

Many of those people are yet to realize that the said hatred is the main reason why they will continue to be ruled one way or another, by you know who    Call your rulers abokis or almajiris as you see fit, but given your frame of minds, you may not taste real presidential powers in Nigeria for another 50years after GEJ. We now know that GEJ is Igbo, he said it to your faces and with tails in your behinds, you could not challenge his claim. That was quite disappointing given the fact that cowardice, hitherto, had not been a trait one could attribute to Ndigbo with a straight face, until now.

Guy, do you even understand the meaning of the word "hatred"?   SMH!

This dude comes here, gloats about the murder, despoil and destruction of Igbo lives and property in Nigeria, and the continued destruction of an entire country's potential for greatness, just to keep the Igbo down; yet he dares accuse anyone of hatred?

Believe me, in Nigeria, in terms of wickedness and hatred, I don't think any tribe approaches the levels of your people -the Hausa/Fulani. You are THE MOST WICKED GROUP in Africa.  

History had thrown you a curve ball in 1966 and you did your thing, thinking that you have cornered Nigeria for ever. Well, guess where we are today- a minority guy whom you wrote off and have been stealing blind, is YOUR president. hehehe!
And if he maintains the balls he has grown so far, he will rule you for at least 8 years and change that country for ever.

All your evil plans in Nigeria are falling one by one.
Today we have an international airport in Enugu - something you worked so hard to block. So, you see? One day you will wake up to find yourself where you belong - at my gate keeping away flies! Mutum banza.

Katsumoto:
On Saturday, May 6, 1967, at 5.15 pm, a meeting began to take place, at the State House, Enugu, between the then Excellency, Lt. Col. Odumegwu Ojukwu (the Ikemba) and a delegation of the National Conciliation Committee (Committee) led by the most Honorable Chief Obafemi Awolowo. The Committee was represented by Professor Samuel Aluko, Chief Mariere, Chief J.I. Onyia, while [b]the Eastern Region was represented by Lt. Col Imo, Lt. Col Effiong, Lt. Col. Kurubo, Mr. C.O Mojekwu, Mr. N.U. Akpan, Professor Eni Njoku, Dr. Nwakanma Okoro, Dr. P.N.C. Okigbo, Mr. C.A. Onyegbale and Mr. Ndem [/b]with the Ikemba presiding over the meeting. The names are listed for the purpose of verification of facts presented herein below with those of them who may still be alive,

The Eastern region was WELL represented.
Why do folks still say that Biafra was Igbo thing?
I'm laughing.

I couldn't help noticing that some of the national assembly members look haggard despite all the money they were alleged to have made.

Money isn't everything.

I know that this is politics, but I like this type of politics.

Jonathan Commisssions Enugu International Airport (Picture)

The game has finally begun.

[size=16pt]PDP primaries timetable out[/size]

From BUCHY ENYINNAYA, Asaba
Saturday, December 18, 2010

The Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) has formally released its timetable and guidelines for the 2011 general elections, slating January 13 for presidential primaries. According to the timetable signed by the National Publicity Secretary, Prof. Rufai Alkali and made available to newsmen in Abuja on Friday, the screening of presidential aspirants would be held in Abuja on January 11.
The presidential primaries will be a special national convention to be held in Abuja.

Screening of gubernatorial aspirants will hold at various states’ PDP secretariats nationwide on December 21 and December 22, while special congresses and run-offs (if any) to elect gubernatorial candidates shall hold in eligible states on January 9.
For the National Assembly, the timetable fixed screening for both Senate and House of Representatives on December 29 and December 30.

Special congresses for the election of both Senate and House of Representatives will hold at Federal Constituency headquarters and Senatorial District headquarters on January 5.
Screening for state Assembly aspirants will hold in all state capitals on December 21 and December 22 while state Assembly constituencies nationwide will come up on January 3, while run-offs (if any) will also come up on the same day.
Other events in the timetable include the announcement and notification of INEC of PDP special congresses and convention which will hold on December 16.
Publication of notices of special/national convention and purchase and return of Expression of Interest/Nomination Forms by aspirants to elective offices will hold on December 16.

Furthermore, election of three ad-hoc delegates in ward congresses nationwide comes up on December 28 for the election of one national delegate in each of the 774 local government areas nationwide.
The PDP scribe added that the names of all successful candidates would be submitted to INEC on December 15 and advised aspirants to abide by the timetable.

“Names of all successful candidates will be submitted to INEC on December 15. All aspirants are advised to ensure they comply strictly with the guideline to avoid encumbrances,” Alkali stated.
On the constituents of the screening committee, Alkali said there was a procedure for setting up the committee, and those who will be in the committee will be informed in due course.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/dec/18/national-18-12-2010-007.htm

^^
So, summary:

(1) Cameroonian support;

and/or

(2) A good Navy

would have given us victory.

Katsumoto:
Despite his initial good intentions, Ojukwu was not prepared for war. Dede is unlikely to agree with this since he thinks the only error Ojukwu made was in appointing Banjo to lead the BEF. This is just my opinion.

Strategic errors
1. Not realising that Biafra did not have the resources to engage the Nigerian side. A very gifted General will use the weight and/or size of its enemy against it (Judo strategy). Biafra was outnumbered and outgunned but it did nothing extra-ordinary to shift the balance of the war. Please read about how Ho Chi Minh defeated first, the French and then the Americans despite being seriously out-gunned.
2. Not forming alliances before declaring Biafra. It didn't reach alliances with the West or the Camerouns to its East. Due to antecedents in Nigeria's history, Biafra did not have the complete support of the groups geographically beneath it. This was particularly telling as it became blockaded for most periods of the war.
3. Not anticipating that super powers would support Nigeria (this is called short-sightedness). Blaming it on the discovery of crude oil is flippant.
4. Using Enugu as the capital with it so close to the Northern front. Enugu was captured after only 3 months of fighting (Oct 4th). The fall of Enugu meant that Biafra was always on the backfoot.
5. Not realising that without a capable Navy, Biafra would be blockaded
6. Declaring Biafra too soon; Biafra was declared on May 29th, Nigeria launched its offensive on the 6th of July. Biafra did not have the time to source for weapons. Hence its locally made weapons were not sufficient to prosecute a full scale war.
7. Biafra did not have the means to feed its citizens with the war on its soil; this was exacerbated by not having a single ally on any of its borders.

There are elements of truth in all the bolded words. Biafra or Eastern Nigeria could have negotiated a form of passage with Cameroon since France was sympathetic to Biafra. Allying with western Nigerians would be useless.

Biafra did not have a navy, and in my view, this is one of the biggest mistakes, if not THE BIGGEST MISTAKE of the war. We could even do without a formal standing army per se, but we could never have won without a functioning and MEAN Navy.

Those two things would have won us superpower support, because we could win even without their support. Those guys don't support a losing side in wars.

excanny:
@Katsumoto

The tactic deployed by sending Banjo to Lagos to capture Gowon could have changed the tide of the war, but he screwed up by invading the Midwest, and spending unnecessary time arguing back and forth with Ojukwu. Finally, when he decided to continued, he got to Ore and started negotiating cowardly with Obasanjo.

He also lost 40 miles of territory without a fight. Banjo was part of the problem why the Nigerian side gained an early upper hand over Biafra.

Everybody agrees that Banjo was the worst strategic mistake by Biafra, and it happened too early in the war.

excanny:
Yes, I quite agree. In 2015, Ndigbo might be the people to beat if the likes of Uwechue dont eat their words. Remember he said it would be SS to SE transition.

What Ndigbo need to do in the meantime is to build their political pedigree to enable them contest on a national level. Let's start rallying around that point, grab our destiny in our own hands, and stop looking out for handouts.

Thank you bros! Here is what I think. All we really need to do is to start NOW. Echi eteka o!

Quietly identify about 2 or 3 of our top presidential materials (based on selected set of criteria), quietly start building grassroots support for them in ALL parts of Nigeria. MAKE OUR CASE strongly to ALL Nigerians about 2015. Keep at it constantly till 2014 when we announce them to the world.
I'm being very vague and quite sketchy here for obvious reasons, but suffice it to say that we can do it.

The candidates we give to Nigerians should be the types that cannot be matched by other Nigerians, and I know we have such people. What is left is the ORGANIZATION part.
That is why I support Ohanaeze as a body. I also support all Igbo groups because they are READY instruments of action.
Ohanaeze has committed to a 2015 Igbo president agenda, they cannot go back on that.

Nigerians will elect a politically savvy, intelligent, honest, charismatic, gregarious and ambitious person who can lift Nigeria to great heights in development.
Who no like good tin? 

So, for now, let us support GEJ and see what happens. Zoning was never meant to serve Nigeria. It was meant to make the north feel secure, by imposing half baked and semi-competent folks on the Nigerian people.

Dis Guy:
Actually if she defected to ACN in that state then perhaps i might consider her brave (still don't make sense though)
BUT SHE IS JOINING A WINNING PARTY WITH ESTABLISHED POLITICAL SUPPORT AND  STRUCTURE!!!

nahhhhhhhhhh brave people don't have a problem speaking their mind, she is certainly not brave just a follow the crowd hear her own voice kind of person!!

someone that has time to talk about the word 'naija' (after spending millions on jingles) certainly shouldnt have a problem speaking her mind

She can show her true mettle by contesting on the platform of the PDP- at least we'll now have two people in modern nigeria that got the easy/accidental ride to the top GEJ and Madam Dora


If the APGA put forward a presidential candidate will she be campaigning for him/her?
Will she be expecting the PDP not to field a candidate in that district?

The fact that she is willing to contest against long established PDP senator like Senator Annie Okonkwo shows that she is really courageous. She may also have to contest against Dr Chris Nwabueze Ngige -the Onwa of Anambra state- contesting under ACN (I think he should leave that party ).

You see what I meant?

Yes, Anambra is an APGA state (thank God Nigerians have finally accepted the truth ), but she still has to win against HEAVYWEIGHTS in this senatorial zone. I wish her maximum luck, 'cos she will need it.

Like Anambra governor Peter Obi said:

“Anambra cannot be a highly sophisticated state, with highly intelligent people and continue sending one_legged men to represent her in a pushing competition”

Classic quote. Captures the whole gist!

@excanny

Let me begin with our point of agreement, which is that Ndigbo are big enough and do not need to beg anyone for presidency. I have argued on this site that we don't need the north to win Nigeria's presidency. By that, I mean block northern support. I believe that we have underestimated our population and political reach in Nigeria. So, I don't think that seconding a northerner next year is our ONLY way to the presidency. That is underestimating our power if we work at it.

We support Jonathan because he has committed himself in more ways than one to bringing solid dividends of democracy to Igboland. He has already made a few bold moves, but I don't expect him to do more before the elections. He is from Bayelsa state (a minority state) remember? And elections is around the corner. You mentioned projects that have been approved since 2003, but failed to answer why the projects never took off.
Please use your tongue to count your teeth.

2015 is still fair game, and we can still pursue it with vigor since zoning would be gone by then.
Do you think that the north or any other region can parade more presidential materials than Ndigbo? Of course not!
Nigeria is changing and I really think that after Jonathan, everything will not be that same again.

I want to win the presidency squarely. I don't want it handed over to me by the north, 'cos then, it'd be useless.