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alj harem:
but if the igbos abuse my northern part what should i do

So why are you calling yourself stupid a55 Igbo or easterner then?

By the way the insult almost always originate from you.

Quit that grass you are chewing and try paw paw leaves or something.

alj harem:
i completely disagree, what we need now is development in aba not being any commercial hub

let it be the capital of us easterners insisted of enugu, aba people are very industrious and they can make aba state the most beautiful state in west africa

but been a commercial hub just makes thing dirty just like NY, London, lagos and so on,

what do u think my igbo brothers

You almajiri goat! 

How do you live with calling Igbos inyamiri in one thread and still come to threads like this one to vomit the trash I bolded?

Don't you even have shame? What type of a sick character are you?

Maybe you think everyone feeds on grass like you.

If I were any of these Igbo politicians with some credibility, I would decamp to APGA NOW, because soon, the party will be teeming with heavy weights and there will no longer be room.

Declare for APGA NOW, or regret in a month's time.

Ochi_Agha:
The people of Aba are extemely industrious. Some of the things these people can make, can astound you. I never seen a people so geared to creating things. The only city that can even be compared to the industrious nature of these inhabitants are the good people from Onitsha or Kumasi in Ghana.

I weep for Abia though. Abia state needs change. From Umuahia my hometown, to Aba.

I can still remember my visit to Aba when I was a kid around mid-80s just when De Sam Mbakwe's impact was beginning to wear off. Believe me Aba was it! The roads were in mint condition and the city was far better than Onitsha!

Then it all began to fell apart because NPP was not in charge. The military was.
APGA is like the NPP of the 80s. We will get our lives back under APGA.

Ochi_Agha:
Thank you very much. The people of Abia State need change more than any other state in the South-East. The state is going through a lot of problems. And the great potential for Aba is being wasted by successive administrations based in Umuahia. Aba should be the commercial heartbeat of the East or West Africa in general!

Completely agree! What does it take to bring out the best in Aba and Abia state in general?
Honest and focused leadership.

On these, APGA is the best for us. PDP or ACN can NEVER plan Aba to be the best commercial hub in Africa.

alj harem1:
now igbos are learning from the yorubas

i talk am or i no talk am

@ op

this is terrible to ndigbo land because,

how would she tell my brothers in anambra that she is right for the job, also how does she expect to win when peter obi is still there

almajiri what are you smoking now? Who is talking about unseating Peter Obi?

Ochi_Agha:
I am still not surprised about this. Someone on NL predicted she was going to do this. And what did she do? She actually did it. I actually support APGA. I hope this party sweeps the entire South-East. Does anyone know who is running on the APGA ticket for governor of Abia State?

-Omenani

I would like to know too, though the answer may not be clear until after the party primaries. I guess we will know by January.

Eziachi:
If she wins with APGA, the question is, will she do an Ohakim and go back to PDP?
Mind you Ohakim didn't really win, just an usurper of Agbaoso?

I highly doubt that.
Akunyili is more principled and courageous than the Ohakims and Orjis of this world. Moreover she has nothing to lose as long as APGA remains the party to beat in Igboland.
I strongly sense that APGA will seize all eastern part of Nigeria soon. Just watch.

PDP is a dying party.

Blazay:
Who cares about the semi-illiterate, basement, phamarcist from OkJ zip code?
Insignificant in anything progressive in Nigeria.
Glad she has finally joined her Ndi-Igbo parry.
Let her stay dia and prepia for 2015 as governor of ANB.

PDP remains the best parry in Naija. . .we just have to gerrid of the undesirables within.

Goooooooooooooo "Tikkkkkkku"!!!

I will start praying EVERYDAY for Akunyili to become the Anambra state governor after Peter Obi.
Never even thought of that before!

Omenani:
It was bound to happen. Why am I not surprised?

I am surprised because it is not that easy to leave PDP especially as the elections are approaching.
She is an asset to ANY party. That she is willing to take the risk of contesting an election instead of holding onto her day's job speaks volumes about her character and courage.

Great woman.

Next year's elections in Igboland will be earth shaking! APGA is gradually building in such a way that will soon corner all credible and serious politicians from the east.

In fact that should remain the goal until we move to win over other zones. Charity begins at home. PDP is what we in Nnewi call "Atulu oha" -a sheep owned by nobody, hence is accountable to NOBODY and will eventually starve to death.

We (APGA) are gradually coming together. 

Dora Akunyili is HUGE!

[size=16pt]Akunyili Resigns, Joins APGA[/size]

SPECULATIONS were Wednesday laid to rest when President Goodluck Jonathan reluctantly accepted the resignation of the Minister of Information and Communication, Professor Dora Akunyili.

Consequently, the President has approved the appointment of Minister of State in the Ministry, Mr Labaran Maku, as the substantive Minister. The new senior Minister is now to function without a Minister of State.

Akunyili, in an emotion-laden last briefing after the Federal Executive Council, FEC, disclosed that she was quitting both the government and the ruling People Democratic Party, PDP, in order to achieve her age-long ambition to become a senator.

According to her, she intends to defect to the All Progressives Grand Alliance, APGA, where she hopes to realise the political dream to emerge as a senator representing Anambra Central Senatoral District.

Briefing State House correspondents, shortly after the FEC which was presided over by President Jonathan, at the Presidential Villa, Abuja, Akunyili said her decision to resign and run for the position was borne out of her zeal to serve her people and Nigeria.

“Having reflected over the years about events in Nigeria and in particular my state, Anambra, I have come to the conclusion that it is indeed a defining moment in my life when I should make the sacrifice of leaving a comfortable place to go to a difficult terrain in order to build a better place for our children,” she said.

She stated further, “I have, therefore, decided to join my governor, Peter Obi, who is doing a great job in continuing to build Anambra State as an APGA senator. In this regard, I intend to pick the nomination form today (Wednesday) to run for the office of senator representing Anambra Central Senatorial District in the national assembly”.

Akunyili had earlier in her valedictory address to the FEC,  told colleagues “I am deeply grateful to you for giving me the opportunity to serve our dear country as minister of information and communications. I am equally grateful for the cooperation which you, the Vice President, who sees me as his own sister and my cabinet colleagues extended to me in the course of my duties, without which I would not have succeeded”.

She therefore sought the prayers and support of the council members in realising her political ambition.

“As I take this step, I solicit for your prayers and other forms of support. I am making this request because you are my people and my immediate constituency”, Akunyili said.

“Today is therefore a very emotional day for me in council. This is because I have been so closely bonded to most of you that my departure is like leaving a family. My heart is so heavy because in this council, I have found comfort and friendship,” she said.

Maku said President Jonathan reluctantly accepted the resignation of the former minister because of her quality service to the nation but added that since she was in quest of higher political, the president had not alternative than to allow her go.

While wishing Akunyili well in her political journey, the new minister noted that why they worked together as colleagues he enjoyed the best of relationship with the outgoing minister.

http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headlines/62407-Akunyili-Resigns-Joins-APGA.html

I will post a comment by a reader from Next website http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5654169-146/anthony_enahoro_dies_at_87_.csp:

"He will be remembered for the blood he helped spill in BIAFRA,this man was sent as head of Nigerian delegation to negotiate a cessation of hostilities in Addis Ababa but when he got there,he changed and insisted on annihilation and total surrender of BIAFRA only to turn around later and fight the very government he supported to emasculate a portion of Nigeria,I am sure that all the children that died from kwashiokor in BIAFRA will be waiting for him".


It is a fact that a man's final legacy is mainly carved by the evils he did, not his good (if any). It is even more so if the evils impacted millions of people. You would need a GOOD that either equally impact millions, or billions of people to undo his evil against the millions in Biafra.

The Anthony Enahoro I knew spent his last days on earth trying to achieve the SAME THING he was [b]fighting against [/b]in Biafra. He tried, but I would say he never could muster the same zeal to fight for those things like he did against Biafra.
So, his legacy is one of blood and curses from the victims of the Biafran war.
Those who underestimate the Biafran war victim feelings are either fools or lying to themselves.

I wish he died fighting to undo his past. HE DIDN'T. He died of old age.

eku_bear:
I left Nigeria when I was 4, and am 25 now. Like, in thought and mentality I'm mostly American. Some aspects of Nigeria are unique to it, but others are universal. Again, there is no democracy on the face of the earth where a majority (in this case, an overwhelming majority, 80%+ of the population) is somehow "uninterested" in politics. Are the Igbo not human beings?
So in your mind, the only way someone is interested in politics is to steal? Obama, Bill Clinton, Bloomberg (already a billionaire!), they all went there to steal money? There are just some fundamental laws of human nature that for some reason you keep ignoring.

OK. I was under the assumption that your goal would be to build a Western-style democracy. In such democracies, people are attracted to politics even though it is relatively difficult to get rich from. Yet somehow, in this new country, a supermajorty (the Igbos) would have zero interest in politics? When did Igbo become robots, rather than human beings, lol

The Igbo are more interested in other things than politics. It is not always that majority tribes insist on leading in a DEVELOPED country. Obama is a proof to that.

My point is that the lies about Igbo marginalizing the minority will not materialize. It will be a country designed to be deliberately and diametrically opposed to the Nigerian model of "majority vs minority", "winner takes all", "born to rule" and all the nonsense jargon that renders a potential giant impotent. None of it will happen in Biafra because Nigeria has been all the lessons we needed.

jason12345:
ROMFL!!! LOL . NA WA FOR THIS YOUR NEW COUNTRY OOO! . to be serious, we should implement that into law in nigeria!

I told you that you are too fixated on Nigeria. It will NEVER happen in Nigeria. Since I was a kid, Igboland always dealt with thieves harshly. It won't change in Biafra.

When the laws are in place, ANYONE who wants to do business will do business. It is not an exclusive preserve of any group. I'm just illustrating that folks like myself will be too deep into business to even think about politics or civil service.

eku_bear:
I just think human beings are human beings. Nobody is going to turn down political power if they can have it. Are Igbo not human, that they won't be interested in politics in a country in which they are 80%+ of the population?

Does such exist anywhere else in the world? I don't understand how "We do the economy, minorities do politics" is going to be sustainable longterm. Not to mention, what of minorities who are interested in business and industry?

Too much of this doesn't make sense, just sounds very implausible to me.

Also, Christianity alone is not going to erase ethnicity. Like, there are plenty of examples of countries where the internal beef was between two different Christian sides. . .

EDIT: ethnicity misspelled

A lot of it won't make sense to you because you have been conditioned to Nigerian way of thinking.  

Overwhelming majority of Igbo people would rather do other things than be civil servants or politicians (in a country where GRAFT will be IMPOSSIBLE).
You keep thinking there will still be oil money to steal. No, there won't be.

All the money will come from business and personal income taxes. You steal, get convicted and face death by hanging.   Then politics loses much of its lure. You can't make money from it. Most Igbo men hate where they can't make money. Did you think about that?

jason12345:
as i said the ohanaeze endorsement has nothing to do with this! they endorsed GJ because they expect GJ to "handover" the presidency to an igbo man after his tenure.

and how is it possible to be ran by minorities? [b]when it is going to be a mini-nigeria [/b]with a mixture of heterogeneous ethnic groups? anyway, we shall see

It will NOT be mini-Nigeria because the majority tribe (Igbo) will for once concentrate on things that make a country rich -science, technology, industry, commerce, instead of imposing a lazy culture on a country, with a born to rule mentality. Did you think about that?  

Again, we are 90% Christian. Did you think about that?  

jason12345:
thats because you where different distinct clans then and even now you all have a common enemy. once that is gone. . . . .  you know the rest!

Eastern Nigeria is the most peaceful part of Nigeria, even before the coming of the European and since Nigeria became a country. There has never been intertribal wars in eastern Nigeria.

There has been intra-community conflicts, but NOT inter-tribal wars.

jason12345:
thats a lie!!! then why are interested in presidency now since you are not "interested" in politics then why is it that when i asked other igbo man (igbobuigbo) about an eastern candidate and i mention utomi or donald duke he said they are not igbo so they cannot represent them . you and i know that the scenario you stated above would not happen. why? nothing unites you not even language and yet you tell me the igbos would not be bothered about politics . well, you are not the one that is going to determine that .

My guy, can't you even think at all?

So, you don't see that it all has to do with Nigeria? A country where if you are not in politics, you can't even do commerce or industry or business! Obasanjo almost single handedly destroyed all top Igbo businesses.

Igbo are in Nigerian politics because it has been used by your Yoruba people and Hausas to oppress them in Nigeria. That will not happen in Biafra for obvious reasons.

Remove Nigeria, and give us Biafra and you will be shocked to see it being run by minorities.

Igbo endorsement of Jonathan is a little proof.

jason12345:
@ dapo bear

. . . . .  and just to add to my post
biafra would probably be ravaged by civil war because of the various separate ethnic groups in it. it will just be another mini-nigeria with igbos as the northerner since they are the majority and other ethnic groups will be trying to replace the yoruba and igbo in the new mini-nigeria.

and anyone that tells me that they would govern through federalism is just joking because that was what nigeria did before we had a coup!!! history always tend to repeat itself

To give you a perspective outside of your jaundiced Nigerian fixated one, what about a South African model whereby the Igbos will focus on industry, science, technology and commerce, while the minorities run the government and civil service? How about that? Did it ever occur to you that Igbo man is NOT really interested in politics, or that he is MORE interested in OTHER things than politics. Nigeria has polluted your mind so much that you can't even see what is right under your nose.

It will also be 90% CHRISTIAN. So, who will be fighting who? Have you EVER heard of intertribal war in eastern Nigeria? NEVER.

PhysicsQED:
You do realize that if any of the three major groups leaves, Nigeria will immediately split?  Saying that if the Igbo leave then Nigeria will cease to be is accurate but maybe you're attributing to Onlytruth the idea that all the other groups in Nigeria will fail without the Igbo. I'm not certain that that's his position.

Thank you for this comment!

The guy keeps trying his best to prove that eastern minorities will not want to go with Igbo, or that Igboland will be landlocked, as if it concerns him, or as if he knows my IMMEDIATE neighbors more than me.

He has shifted to Ijaw, but I will leave him to believe what he wants. The topic is "when oil finishes, what next."

I guess we shall see then.

eku_bear:
So long story short, it is his position that Nigeria will die if Igbos leave? Is this why he constantly says things like, "coward", "lazy", etc?

False again! I am not interested in what will happen to you after we leave. I said what I said about your almajiri area boys because you kept drinking panadol for my "problem". I am more interested in what will happen in Biafra or Igboland. Why should I worry about another man's headache? It doesn't make any sense.

Under his hypothesis, I can sort of his see his perspective. But at the same time, imo another plausible hypothesis is that Igbo leaving/staying will not have a significant impact one way or another on the remaining groups of Nigeria. This latter hypothesis is my own personal belief.

Ok, agreed! Provided you focus on your problems, YES of course nothing will get worse for you.

It is fine to have a hypothesis, but imo wrong to assume that everyone else is working under the same assumption. Especially in a discourse like this. Makes no sense to assume everyone believes the same things you do.

Look dude, my problem with you is that you are in western Nigeria and dissecting eastern Nigeria according to your devious yardsticks. That is wicked. You are NOT interested in your survival (unless you've been lying  ). You've concentrated more on my survival even when your concerns are UNSOLICITED and UNINVITED.

eku_bear

And why is it YOUR problem if Igboland is landlocked?

Coward.

We are NOT like you.

You will die without sea access. WE WON'T. In fact we will thrive more, but I don't want to say unnecessary things. Lazy a55.

The way folks with dubious intent talk about Igboland and eastern Nigeria gets one insulted and offended.

Here is a video of Annang (Akwa Ibom) cultural song/dance. For those of you dissecting between a leopard and jaguar, can you tell that this is NOT Igbo without me telling you?

[flash=480,385]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76L7k_yIbRQ?fs=1&hl=en_US"[/flash]

eku_bear:
Well, another option for them is independence. No real reason for them to necessarily join another country.

Anyway, regarding your statement. . . I wonder. Southern Cameroons for example had a plebiscite and left to join Cameroon instead of Nigeria. I've read something indicating that part of the reason they made this decision was due to dislike of the Igbo (see here: http://www.jstor.org/pss/523673).

Anyway, you seem to have great confidence about what decision another ethnicity would make. Hopefully you are correct.

You are really getting lower and lower in your rush to adopt gutter strategies in order to score cheap points even if BY SHEER FALSEHOOD.

You have just lost the last respect I had for you for this latest falsehood from you.

I have posted the page you referred to, and I couldn't find anywhere it says anything about Cameroonians not liking Igbo. These things are in your sick mind and have NOTHING to do with facts.

I asked you earlier why you are obsessed with trying to prove that Igbo cannot survive outside Nigeria in any form or shape, and I was wondering why you think that Igbos are like Yorubas (your OPEN FEAR about staying in Nigeria without the Igbos proves it abundantly here!). I told you to concentrate on western Nigeria and leave eastern Nigeria and Igboland alone but you won't because you are a coward who cannot mind his own business.
What will you do to your areas boys?
That is the question I asked. No answer from you.

Here is the page again!

House of thieves!

Okay, I have to throw in this caveat.

Osisikankwu should NOT have been summarily executed. I'm not buying the story that he died while exchanging gun fire with the army. The story is sooooooooooo laughable! 

How can three people cornered suddenly open fire on the army? Sounds not-so-smart for a criminal who terrorized Abia and environ for years.

My grouse with the Osisi id!-ot is that he constituted himself into a nightmarish terror to HIS own people and kept trying to justify his actions by claiming he was a "militant". He despoiled peoples wives and daughters, and carried out his open robbery in Abia state with impunity.

He who sows the wind, reaps the whirlwind. 

The Nigerian justice system is only fit for animals. Nigerians have refused to shed their animal hides.
Calling for an inquiry into his death is futile. Jungle country, jungle laws! 

wale4x35:
Check out the next 11 countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Eleven

Only if we could have people with the right mental attitude

Instead of fools who somehow managed to work at Goldman Sachs only to fail us when really challenged to deliver.

Our economy has steadily declined since Igbo technocrats left office.

What we have now is cooked up economic figures with nothing on the ground to show.

Aganga = a Failure with false pedigree

eku_bear:
Where on earth can you export goods and pay only 200 million on nearly 100 billion in exported goods? 0.2% in export duties? Think more like 10 or 20 billion. Cameroon is of course an option to give you more choices, but it will only help so much.

Regarding rivers, you cannot sail down the river owned by another man. He will charge you fees to use it. Or which river directly connected to the Atlantic is wholly in Igboland?

That topic has been discussed in GREAT DETAIL here on nairaland. Search for it.
My point remains that it is in their interest to join the Igbo. They would lose more if they don't. Let's end it there.

Meanwhile shouldn't you be busy wondering how YOU will survive a deflated Lagos with area boys reining supreme now that Igbo boys are gone?

We will build an electric fence to check them.

eku_bear:
Why would Cross Rivers and Akwa Ibom join for free? Why not instead maintain independence and charge import/export duties? Surely it is more profitable to do this than to join Biafra, is it not?

It isn't as if they are Igbo in CR or AI. Why would they gift Biafra with access to the sea? It is a valuable resource that me personally I'd extract every penny I could from. Can you imagine how profitable it would be taking a large cut of everything that leaves Biafra and enters it?
Well, that is two success stories out of how many? Makes no sense to consider only the successes without considering the numerous failures.

In any case, Botswana has a tiny population. What, 2 million people in a land filled with diamonds, arable land, cattle farms, agriculture, etc. Obviously it is easy to build an enormously wealthy country if your land is filled with diamonds and not overpopulated.

I know less about the factors for Switzerland's success, though.
Property prices will indeed skyrocket in Igboland. And they will indeed fall in Lagos, mostly because there will be a large amount of property sold rapidly at bargain prices.
Still, I'm not too worried about the longterm growth and economic security of Lagos. The 8% population growth of the state probably is not entirely from Igboland, lol. Whoever leaves can and will be replaced.
Eh, if you want to base things on fuzzy optimism, so be it. Me, I'm more interested in logistics and practicalities.

Look, I'm not really here to convince anyone.

Once oil finishes, you will find out that out of about $100 billion annual income to eastern parts of Nigeria, 97% will be from EXPORT of FINISHED GOODs -automobile and technological equipment made in Igboland. The coastal guys can decide to get allocations of $20 -$50 billion annually by joining us, or we pay them $200 million a year for allowing us use their ports. If they refuse, we use Cameroon for even less. All these is assuming anyone will be insane enough to try to seize Igbolands accessing the sea by the rivers.  And yes there are Igbo in Akwa Ibom and Cross rivers. They may be few but they are there.