₦airaland Forum

jason12345:
you are a bit senseless for using that sentence. fear and unity are two and very opposite things.  have i not said you can form your biafra? have not said an igbo man should produce a candidate and i would support? have i not even called on all fractions of ndigbo to unite? have i not stopped talking about ojukwu and biafra( ABOUT 2 wks ago until now)?

look, until you stop marginalising yourself by rallying round someone else instead  of yourself, until you take your destiny into your own hands and stop blaming everyone then i do not think there is an way out.

[size=14pt]you tell me that ibibio, efik etc are all igbo[/size] [/b]and yet for some reason you all want a core igbo man to be president after GJ (lol)? you discriminate and sell (as your so called ohanaeze are doing now) yourselves too much for your own good.

[b]so please tell me what fear? what hatred? i have and would never hate an igbo man. for what reason?

the topic spoke about re-branding the igbo nation and i think you should listen to your leaders (ojukwu, nnamdi, ekweme* and co)  who are sound politically not someone that might have taken bribe. ask yourself, why would ojukwu who took you for a war now want what is not goo for an igbo man?. apart from that, you need to love your country man more because all anyone new that comes to NL sees about ndigbo is a mixture of pride, desperation and paranoia. i think that should be addressed.

most importantly, STOP WASHING YOUR DIRTY LINEN IN PUBLIC FOR GOODNESS SAKE!

ChinenyeN:
OnlyTruth, our individualism isn't the problem. A people can still be individualistic and cooperate, they just need their base interests to be appealed to. As at now, the so-called (so-called so, because they are not) "Igbo leaders" (i.e. your Ohanaeze) have yet to appeal to their peoples' base interests. Ohanaeze has realistically done little to nothing to bring anything together. In the wake of various recent social issues that were occurring in various Igbo areas, neither Ohanaeze's voice nor efforts were heard of. Yet, when it came time to discuss about the presidency aspirations of an Ijo man (which they have no business doing, in the first place), Ohanaeze wants to rear its head, claiming to speak for the very same people who hadn't/didn't hear its voice nor witness its efforts on issues that matter[ed].

Look, this republican nature we exhibit is not going anywhere, believe me. So, what should be done is to work with such a nature, using it to our advantage, by properly appealing to our base interests. That is the most reasonable approach, which your organization has failed to make use of.

Also note, the anti-Ohanaeze interest, as well as your nonsense yarn about elements against a common front are all in your head. People here have nothing against Ohanaeze, but they do disagree with Ohanaeze's approach to all this. So learn to tell the difference between antagonistic sentiments and disagreements.

houvest:
The SW never went to PDP. They were rigged over. SW will always be under AC/AD/UPN/AG. APGA was on a roller coaster to liberate the SE from PDP but the short-sightedness that is being replayed now in this quest to have an Igboman as vice president next year by all means helped  crush APGA. Chekwas was accused of mismanagement and instead of harvesting his ideas of a pan-Igbo party and diplomatically resolving the issues, APGA was reduced by Umeh to an Anambra party. Its 1999 clout that swept the SE was removed and Obi managed with the help of Ikemba to keep APGA alive as a one state party. PPA tried to come on board as a replacement for APGA but the endemic and intrinsic selfishness of the demagogue Orji Kalu, made PPA to be DOA-  dead on arrival. After Obi and Ikemba in Anambra and OUK in Abia, PDP will roam freelly in Igboland unfettered. The SE must rediscover itself afresh and redefine her politics. The politics of alliance with the North as second fiddlers has left the SE impoverished, marginalized, directionless,etc.

After the war, fastforward to 1978/79 Zik tried to use NPP as the NCNC before her to reunite, rediscover and reposition Ndigbo on their own before interfacing with the larger Nigeria. He was largely successful in that the then 2 Igbo states were governed by NPP. The then 3 other eastern states  went over to NPN as a result of the erosion of Ziks influence because of the Eyo Ita saga that gave Zik's opponents  a large political capital in propaganda by portraying Zik and Ndigbo as domineering and selfish used powerfuilly before, during and after the civil war  to erode fillial bonds between the Igbo and her minority neighbours and also the Adaka Boro -led Ijaw nationalism. However NPP came second in those states behind NPN as well as Lagos and I think Bendel state behind UPN. At the national level, NPP came third  numerically behind NPN and UPN but still came second in National spread having secured Plateau state and came second also in Benue state beating UPN that secured the then five LOOBO states to the third position in National spread . While UPN secured states only in the West, NPP secured states both in the East and North while NPN got states in all the Zones and won the elections securing  25% in the  controversial 12 I/3 states out of the then 19 states of the federation.

Coming out just from the ashes of the war Zik, inspite of the presence of prominent Igbo sons like Ekwueme, Onoh, KO, Okadigbo and later Ikemba, in NPN and all the other 4 political parties parading Igbo vice presidential candidates, was able to get Ndigbo together to keep their own states and yet make inroads into others. Granted his performance dropped below that of the NCNC days but it is quite understandable considering the volume of water that had passed under the bridge.
Unfortunately the NPN's vaulting ambition to sweep all states in 1983 led to the politics of earthquakes and landslides and ultimately brought back the khakhi boys, truncating the 2nd Republic and Igbo political revivalism.  During that interlude Zik and his natural successors in the person of RBK and Sam Mbakwe died.  His shoes were too big to be filled by the remaining ones. Nwobodo one of the living ones among them could not perpetuate his dynasty and reap the legacy of bonds created by Zik all over the Nation for Ndigbo like friends in the SW in the persons of Ogunsanya and Benson, in the middlebelt in the persons of Lar, Unongo, etc and in the  South south and far North  and this left Ziks political family in more or less a political wilderness, the same fears Achebe had expressed in his  political essay 'the problem with Nigeria.'

I think the emergence of Ohaneze was in those halcyon days of the second republic politics and I think the founders were  Igbo Inteligentia who wanted to craft for the Igbo a leadership closer to Igbo republicanism and away from a  leadership that was  reposed in one man- Zik . So at the onset, Ohaneze was seen as anti -Zik and pro NPN and was not quickly embraced by Ziks political sons. I stand to be corrected though. However with the decimation of Ziks dynasty, the wisdom of Ohaneze founders has been proved.
Igbo leadership now rested sqaurely on Ohaneze. However with the help of hindsight I think that Ohaneze was not really prepared for the responsibilities that was coming on her and operated a laid back leadership which did not really beneffit Ndigbo appropriately.
Political leadership still went to individuals with Alex ekwueme alternating with the Ikemba now and then. This laidback leadership by Ohaneze created a vaccum which the 5 Igbo governors have exploited and arrogated to themselves the defacto leaders of Igboland even though they are not recognised as such by the larger igbo society. Ordinarily this would not have been a problem  if these were reputable, wise, dynamic, charismatic and upright men after all Tinubu emerged as a Yoruba leader from his activities in NADECO and governorship of Lagos State. Some of them have questionable backgrounds and only about half of them were actually elected by the people so the moral grounds for them to claim Igbo leadership are wanting.  Moreover the performance of some of them in governance leaves a lot to be desired.

Ekwueme is sold to his loyalty to the North and his pan-Nigeria views while Ikemba is encumbered by history to really be the political leader to take Ndigbo out of wilderness. Besides they are both getting on in years and should by now be playing the role of Don Corleone to Mike in his later years ie consiglere (advisory). Udenwa, Egwu, ken Nnamani, Anyim, Soludo,etc are all potential Igbo leaders but can they bestride the Nation like a colossus the way Zik did? I think perhaps, some of them will when they fully mature but for now I think Ohaneze should be fully empowered into a strong leadership force for Ndigbo with full powers of sanction.

1/ Ohaneze should establish a political wing or perhaps adopt APGA and gradually nurture it back to life and position it for the coming elections at the state levels.
2/Using their endorsement for Jonathan  as a launching pad they should rebuild  Igbo relations with their South south neighbhours exploiting to the fullest the advantages of  pre-Independence history, proximity and fillial bonds thereby ensuring a zonal integration that will enable them to launch out full force in 2015 and beyond to capture power at the centre.
3/ Ohaneze should try as much as possible to bring back dissident members into the group using their power of sanctions where necessary.
5/ Ohaneze should establish mechanisms to monitor the Local and state governments in Igboland and also Federal govt activities there.
6/Ohaneze should impress on Town Unions on revival of Igbo moral  values and curbing social menaces that lead to crime and even misdeameanors.
7/ Ohaneze should link up with WIC (World Igbo Congress) on the implementation of the WIC Economic blueprint for  Igboland.
8/  ohaneze should play a big brother role in the SE and SS in reconciling feuding communities like those fighting in Ebonyi now, Ijaw/ itsekiri, Urhobo/ Itsekiri, Ikwerre/others, Ika/ others etc,
9/ Ohaneze should try and collaborate at the National level with other regional groups to forge National unity and break deadlocks and also lobby them on their agenda for an Igbo presidency not just by shouting it in the pages of Newspapers.

Other suggestions are welcome.

1025:
@onlytruth,
on this issue, u asked for my suggestion on ways forward and i remember acting in that direction. what is your take on my suggestions? i am not here to pls anyone and what u feel abt my position does not matter but i must discuss any igbo related issues with facts and figures.
the idea of mentioning traders and money miss roads in my write ups is just to butress my points on how the igbo titles and leaderships have gone bad.
if we can over look intelligent men like chinue achebe, alex ekwueme, jim nwobodo, arthur nzeriba, iwuanynwu, ken nnamani and popular and influential igbomen with who have respect with the igbo nation and outside for less popular men like uwaechue, we are sure heading no where.
i have asked this question severally and i want to ask u again now, WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR JONATHAN FAILS TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT SINCE NDIGBO HAVE OPENLY THROWN THEIR WEIGHT BEHIND HIM?


UNCLE, IS OHANAEZE NDIGBO A POLITICAL ORGANISATION?

1025:
@onlytruth,
on this issue, u asked for my suggestion on ways forward and i remember acting in that direction. what is your take on my suggestions? i am not here to pls anyone and what u feel abt my position does not matter but i must discuss any igbo related issues with facts and figures.
the idea of mentioning traders and money miss roads in my write ups is just to butress my points on how the igbo titles and leaderships have gone bad.
if we can over look intelligent men like chinue achebe, alex ekwueme, jim nwobodo, arthur nzeriba, iwuanynwu, ken nnamani and popular and influential igbomen with who have respect with the igbo nation and outside for less popular men like uwaechue, we are sure heading no where.
i have asked this question severally and i want to ask u again now, WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR JONATHAN FAILS TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT SINCE NDIGBO HAVE OPENLY THROWN THEIR WEIGHT BEHIND HIM?

If you follow my logic on this issue, you would realize that I am more interested in Igbo speaking with one voice than anything else. For me, it is a cause worth fighting for and must be attained BEFORE we can reasonably expect any change to our political fortunes in Nigeria. So, if Jonathan loses, we have moved one step towards Igbo and Eastern unity. You may not understand this but it is REALLY important.

Those who try to pull us in individual directions are either our enemies, or those not politically savvy enough to understand the value of togetherness and unity of purpose. Those people can't see beyond their PERSONAL views.

You can end up being Ohanaze president in the future if we still have Ohanaeze by then. If all these careless folks destroy it, we are doomed. If Ohanaeze is broken or something is wrong, fix it! Don't undermine it or trying to destroy it completely because you have nothing better to replace it with. Moreover, a lot of Igbo folks believe in Ohanaeze's current nature (rather than the docile past). If you destroy Ohanaeze today, what makes you think that its current followers will follow you to another platform tomorrow? So, if essence, it is self defeatism to try to undermine Ohanaeze.
UNCLE, IS OHANAEZE NDIGBO A POLITICAL ORGANISATION?

babapupa:
Look at this joker, all y'all put together can even scare a little baby, losers wey den whoop their backside dey talk about scare. You people sure know how to live up to your reputation as the most narrow minded and delusional people in the world.


Get it trough your narrow minded existence, this is a public forum, not ibo forum and like I said to the other dumbo, go to ibo kwenu and be all you can be all by yourself.

Again, the only cowards we know in Nigeria are ZIK who stood for nothing and was always missing when kasalaa burst and Ojukwu the grandmaster of all cowards who led millions to their deaths and run comot from battlefield like a six year old girl.

Your forefathers are cowards and the next generations including you are all cowards abi why do you think y'all are irrelevant and at the bottom of things in Nigeria? It's all because of cowardice.

Y'all are insecure, aimless and paranoid bunch,

babapupa:
Ode buruku. Shouldn't I be asking you the same question and why you are not on Igbo kwenu spitting your rubbish to your ibo kinsmen.? Trust me, you wont find
my a/ss over thre.


Buzz off jare,

ohanaeze ndigbo shld work out modalities to avoid these [b]offices been determined by the number of containers one have at the wharf or number of shops in the main markets [/b]rather let them build this offices on merits and do their best to keep them out of politics.

1025:
@vicenzo,
that is exactly the case. whenever one does not fall in line behind u, he becomes a nobody. if your ohanaeze made the consultations as you said, it means every igbo man except ikoh supports jonathan, abi? in your dream. in the same manner u do not know ikoh, i do not know of this man uwaechue until this support for jonathan issue.
maybe when next he will come to our village to seek our consent on an issue like this, i will have the opportunity of meeting him.
@onlytruth,
i can't help but start clapping for u. very intelligent speech especially that aspect that confirm those of us challenging ohanaeze ndigbo's decission as having mental problem.
if u say we have mental problems, i agree especially me. been an igboman makes me more mental than u can imagine.
orji uzor kalu once made a move to reconcile all parties having issues among the elites of ndigbo but those moves were saboutaged while the federal govt sponsored agenda told the igbos that kalu is a criminal and the igbos followed that forgeting the idea of unity.
uncle, are u preaching untiy when the elders of the land cannot seat on the same table? uncle where will ndigbo go without the chinue achebes, ekwuemes, jim nwobodos, kalus, iwuanyanwus, nnamanis and other top class igbos. i can do without u is a very bad language.
where was this so called ohanaeze ndigbo when one of us, chris uba with the backing of FG destroyed our own land? where was ohanaeze when ohakim of imo state was selling non existing jobs to poor graduates? where was ohanaeze when the laws of the educational system of one nigeria favours other at the detriment of the easterners?
what is the guarranttee that jonathan will be the next president? with what face will this same ohanaeze meet atiku or someone else if the wind blows the other ways?
let me remind you that ohanaeze's involvement in politics shld be a neutral one not the one that will take side. they can only educate the voters especially the youths on the need to conduct themselves well during elections and vote wisely.
i don't care what other name or names u will call me in your next post but the truth must be told.
the objectives for which the ohanaeze ndigbo was formed are defeated and some disgruntled elements have seen this as an opportunity to manipulate the masses.
if since u were born, u have never seen the igbos talk with one voice, why are u calling us names for not supporting your position this time arround?
how can ohanaeze ndigbo support goodluck jonathan and sambo for president without knowing who the other candidates are? what if our own son is running for president? what if the other camps are going to use our own as running mate?
for not supporting ohanaeze and jonathan and for not supporting an igbo candidate, who is the betrayal here?
if this uninformed ohanaeze has a deal with jonathan to give them the presidency after his tenure, what agreements and documents do they have for this? what right/power does jonathan have to give u president? is it not possible we are using goat dealers as ohanaeze with this kind of hope?
if at my age and experience in life, anyone is speaking on my behalf on who to vote for, i will not waste time in calling that one an slowpoke.
who says, i don know what i want? who says, i don't know what is good for me?
this your ohanaeze needs to do somethings right to get the minds of the people to warrant follwoing them like zombie. you don't just meet someone and begin to dish out orders.
even in  your homes, u have to prove urself to ppl in the house before they listen to u.
so u can go ahead and call me some other names bcs today, i am in my happy mode and i have more and more points to deliever to u and those your uninformed importers turned leaders.

~Bluetooth:
The egalitarian approach to government and politics by early ibo  culture may have been responsible fo the disunity among the ibo nation.the abesnce of a centralized system of government to garner and ascert authority overtime have made indigenes become liberal and democratic to come under a group to make decisions that would ensure the progress of the ibo generations.
Ibo disunity has nothing to do with external aggression.it is  a result of factors from within.

onye_ngbu:
No you didnt stop at the bolded, you read everything I wrote and thats how you learnt im in doubt if it is Peter Obi's idea.


Fine then if it has nothing to do with the state government

onye_ngbu:
[b]I didnt read the whole thing [/b]BUT if Peter Obi has a hand in this news, it is a propaganda.

That man is the best in the business of propaganda in the country.

Jonathan should consult him for the next elections.

Crook!

asha 80:
is the one done by peter obi for onitsha,nnewi and awka?if it that one then i am in possesion of it.but i really do not know what can be done about onitsha.the population there is mind boggling for that size of the area to the extent that people have started vearing off to nkpor to popylate there.

asha 80:
All these talks self.

hpwever onlytruth[b] i am very concerend about town planning in anambra cities[/b].

marcdunu:
Thats if it does not turn out that you are actually among the eeddeeoottsss!!!!!!

If not for Ohaneze leadership, who is Uwechue in Igbo political affairs?

Uwechue will now banish Ojukwu, Ekwueme, Nnamani, Sam Egwu from Igbo land? You have no clue yet!!!!!

alj harem:
thanks, hopefully by then u would have since me as your brother so u can welcome me to one of the most developed state i  nigeria at that time

alj harem:
onlytruth, onlytruth, onlytruthhhh, onlylies

my brother, no one is insulting the ndigbo

we northerners call ourselves one because of

1.) the religion that binds us together
2.) must of us speak hausa as a second language so that brings a sense unite and common interest
3.) ciroma does not speak and will never speak for us northerners i tell u, he only talks in pdp that's it,,,,,remember he said he was going to match 1million or so northerners to abuja,,,,,,,,,people did not support him on that

4.)some of us northerners have drop our culture to embrace 1 unify culture and belief.


u southerners are NOT like that, u people never stick to your words

igbos and yorubas were united before but after the war igbos became jealous of their neighbour or brothers that have been so nice to them, and did all they can to insult there brother eg ijaws

onlytruth, u are a very funny man i must tell u

hopefully one day we can meet like brother and dine together because u are always my blood brother

alj harem:
i hope this really come true so that the whole country can move forward and both the northerners and yorubas can move there for investment like lagos

Kobojunkie:
It has always been that way.

alj harem:
the position of the masses of igbos is clear( the sense-able ones) that ohaneze has sold the birth right of igbos to the highest bidder

how can a this group say they represent the an igbo man or woman when they have not put their interest first before the interest of their pockets,,,,,,,,,,,,,how

all i have to say is that some igbo leaders are just manipulating and abusing there position for there interest

hopefully they can learn from this man that speak and protect the interest of the igbo people first before the interest of the ijaw or any other group in nigeria

Omenani:
I just looked at the Executive Team for Globim Corporation. It seems like a legitimate website. I seen a few Nigerians (Igbo) names on the executive team, but it is a mixed company from what I see.