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I'm laughing . . . all the way to the bank! ![]() Where's my isi-ewu and nkwobi plus nkwu enu! ![]() |
I guess this is another version of the news from Vanguard. Igbo leaders are speaking loud and clear. |
[size=16pt]2011: Igbo leaders reaffirm support for Jonathan[/size] By Tony Edike ENUGU—IGBO political leaders in the five South Eastern states rose from a meeting in Enugu yesterday with a resolve to work tenaciously for the realization of President Goodluck Jonathan’s presidential ambition in the 2011. At the town hall meeting held at Nike Lake Resort Hotel, Enugu, under the chairmanship of former Chief Judge of Enugu State, Justice Eze Ozobu (rtd), Igbo leaders also reiterated their commitment to the principle of zoning, saying it was the only recipe to end power struggle in the country. Present at the meeting that lasted for over three hours were Chief Mbazulike Amechi, Chief Ojo Maduekwe, Prof Anya O. Anya, Senator Ebenezer Ikeyina, Chief Nnia Nwodo, Chief Onyema Ugochukwu, Chief Tony Ukasanya, Chief Anayo Onwuegbu, Chief Mrs. Sally Egbogu, Chief Frank Oramulu, Senator Emma Anosike, Chief Ugochukwu Agballa, Dr. Joe Nwaorgu, Prof. Donatus Onu, Prof Sam Ukpabi, Chief Chika Odom and Dr. Perry Iloegbunam among others. In a 10-point communiqué issued at the end of the meeting and signed by Senator Ikeyina and Chief Ojo Maduekwe, the participants further endorsed the process of consultation by the apex Igbo socio-cultural organization, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, on the unfolding contest for power in the 2011 general elections. In declaring their unflinching support for President Jonathan’s presidential bid, they however demanded that power should rotate to the South East in 2015 on the basis of the existing geopolitical zones and not on the pre-1914 North South divide. “The Town Hall meeting believes that the only lasting recipe to tame the struggle for power in Nigeria and make our politics more gentle, would be a constitutional provision that guarantees the roration of power between the zones of Nigeria . In fact, the need to rotate power in Nigeria is now a settled issue; but the implementation remains problematic, hence the current debate. “We believe that rotation of power should be conducted on the basis of existing geopolitical zones and not on the pre-1914 North-South divide. Furthermore, the principle of rotation of power should be binding on all political parties as a reflection of the unique history, needs and imperatives of the Nigerian federation. Henceforth, rotation of power should be designed to immediately accommodate the zone that has not exercised the power of the presidency and then, it should next continue to those that have exercised such powers for the least period of time in the past,” the communiqué said. They therefore stressed the need for the South-South to be supported for next year’s presidential poll while the South-East follows thereafter. “It is instructive that besides the imperatives of justice and our desire to foster a more cordial relationship with our brothers in the South-South and other zones of the country, a principal reason for the support pledged to His Excellency, President Goodluck Jonathan is the public testimony of the governors of the South East that they have enjoyed unparalleled collaborative goodwill in search for solutions to the many concerns of the zone from the president, in the short period that he has been in office. “Consequently, the meeting urges the political, socio-cultural and civil organizational leadership in the South East zone to work and give effect to the support pledged to President Jonathan,” the Igbo leaders further stated even as they urged President Jonathan to continue to pay attention to the priority needs of Ndigbo. Earlier in an address, Professor Anya O. Anya, said the best political decision Ndigbo have taken in the current dispensation was the endorse President Jonathan, stressing that it had been a collective desire of Ndigbo to produce the president in 2015 since Jonathan would not seek re-election after 2015 as he would not be sworn-in twice constitutionally as president. He called on Igbo supporters of Northern presidential aspirants to have a change of mind and support Jonathan’s ambition. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/11/2011-igbo-leaders-reaffirm-support-for-jonathan/ |
ChinenyeN:You see why you are NOT qualified to debate Igbo issues? YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SEE PAST NGWALAND. You forget that Ngwaland is INSIDE Igboland. Aba is even owned to great extents by my Nnewi people. So what the fkc are you even talking about? If I can secure Igboland, I have secured Ngwaland too, can't you see that? |
ChinenyeN:You mean Ngwaland? |
ChinenyeN:hahahaha! hehehe! ![]() Vision from ngwaland. ![]() |
jason12345:Can you summarize what he was trying to say, since you so much understand him and I don't? |
ChinenyeN:Can you summarize your points and then move on? ![]() You are still free to choose your scope of vision, remember? |
jason12345:So when did Mike become this ngwaboy called Chinenye? |
ChinenyeN:@Chinenye If you have not noticed, I don't debate you anymore. ![]() Bro you can believe whatever you want! ![]() It is not my fault that you cannot see past Ngwaland. I am a Nnewi man and we don't have to share views on Igbo affairs. Vote anyway you want, but don't try to take on something far bigger than your worldview 'cos frankly you cannot understand it. |
jason12345:There is NO WAY I can know what is best for Yoruba more than you 'cos you are one of them. Same way you cannot know what is best for Ndigbo more than myself, 'cos . . . you know the rest of that! |
udezue:The ultimate truth. The whole thing is almost an ACT of God. Nigeria's political board will change for ever if we stay this course. It is delicate and needs experience, a sense of history, knowledge of the issues involved and measured laser-like political steps; but, I thank God for a man like Uwechue. ![]() |
jason12345:And I'm supposed to believe that YOU and amingafar have the best of Ndigbo at heart? You guys love Igbos so much! ![]() rollin' on da floor. ![]() |
mikeansy:You still don't get it, do you? I have ALREADY won! The outcome is IRRELEVANT. Ol'boy, I can't break it down for you any further. |
mikeansy:As I have told you several times before, you are an Igbo man and entitled to vote according to your whims and caprices. Just don't hound us Jonathan supporters. Yes I used to question his leadership abilities until he won me over. I also changed because I saw the game others were playing and being a determined student of history, I've decided to beat them in their games. You don't have to agree with me, but don't insult me next time. |
jason12345:You sound as if Jonathan is going to be a south/south east president only. He is the president of Nigeria. ALL NIGERIANS. We are only working to help elect him to serve ALL NIGERIANS. Gerrit please! |
mikeansy:So why are you desperate to have a northern rule next year in order to (according to their tales) pass power to Igbo in 2015? Why are you so up in arms that Ndigbo are supporting Jonathan? I never said that Jonathan will solve all our problems, but he has already started to do some things that nobody has done before. But more importantly, you still somehow fail to reason along my logic which is that the presidency is not the most important thing for Ndigbo now. We need regional integration. You still fail to see that and yet go on talking trash. You are really retarded. I am in Nnewi by the way. I am more at home than you! |
jason12345:There is no us vs them attitude. There is a "we can too" attitude though. ![]() |
jason12345:Believe me, I am not an emotional thinker. Not by a loooooooooooog shot. I am merely taking a strategic (regional ) perspective. |
jason12345:And why are you so concerned about Igbo political fortunes in Nigeria? Why is this Igbo support of Jonathan troubling you so much? Believe me, any smart Igbo can see through your fake love. If Jonathan loses, then so be it! We are still Nigerians aren't we? We will still present one of us (Easterners) again in 2015. QED. ![]() |
jason12345:Nigeria's second name is irony. If not so, how come the least educated part of the country has ruled more than the most educated? How come we have more population in the desert than we have in the rain forests? Where else in the world are things done like they are done in Nigeria? |
mikeansy:You are really naive. ![]() Your party PDP is known for a lot of things, and free and fair elections is not one of them. ![]() Nobody will banish Ndigbo if we follow this game to the end. ![]() We need things in Nigeria and those things have been denied us for 40 years. If Jonathan will give us those things, I will support him and let the chips fall where they may. You really sound retarded honestly. |
mikeansy: ![]() You give me too much credit. It is good though. ![]() For your information, I ALREADY HAVE A VOICE in Igboland. ![]() You can go on and wallow in your retarded and dodgy cosmopolitanism; just know that you are not fooling anyone. Being a PDP member and DESPERATE for YOUR candidate from the north to win says everything about you. You are a political thug in PDP. I am not even a member of PDP. I am an APGA man. Nationally though, I am a GEJA supporter. Am I not entitled to support my candidate? |
mikeansy:Hey dude! ![]() How do you come off sounding as if anyone is pointing a gun to your head to vote for Jonathan? ![]() If I didn't know better I'd probably think you are not Igbo. You sound paranoid. By all means, exercise your free choice and will. Just don't come here saying things you have NO CLUE about. And when you want to refute an argument, do so directly. Don't come sounding retarded just to prove irrelevant cosmopolitanism. Your type is described as those who go to a long swords war armed with daggers and then hope that the enemy is charitable enough to cut you some slack. ![]() I wouldn't follow you to that war. ![]() |
jason12345:I never said I was sentimental. ![]() I am a cold strategic thinker. Again I never said that Jonathan must win fairly. He doesn't have to. ![]() If Nigerians wanted fairness, they would have designed a fair system instead of a system that masks the truth and heaps power on Aso rock. My concern now is for Jonathan to defeat his opponents and fix some of the things wrong with Nigeria, 'cos if those things are not fixed, Nigeria will not survive. It will disintegrate. Jonathan is Nigeria's last chance to survive. Some of the things I say here is not meant for elevated thinkers. I have to say these things because I want to rally all Ndigbo to support Jonathan come what may. ![]() |
@ mikeansy You are really getting desperate and have started to throw things hoping that something sticks! Listen, you are too selfish and too self centered to see anything. Strategic thinking is not for selfish people. You should be able to see outside of your immediate needs to really see the big picture. By selfishness I mean you must be angling for some personal gain, that is why you are hustling to throw your people and their regional interests under the bus. So what do we do as a people? Do we exploit the times we live, build bridges and enter new frontiers? Project our values into the mainstream of politics and promote our aspirations so that all Nigerians can see that what we yearn for can actually benefit all Nigerians Igbos & non-Igbos alike?So what do you think Jonathan has been trying to do since he declared his interest to run? You talk about Nigerian politics as if it is some kind of holy grail; when was the last time an election was free and fair in Nigeria? You talk about divide and rule; who has been dividing and ruling since 1960? ![]() You really sound so retarded! While you are here yapping, just watch, the same people will strike a deal with Jonathan and even vote for him when they see that they have no choice, because frankly, Nigerian presidency was made powerful by the same people to enable them toy with Nigeria as they deem fit. So how do you come here preaching some sanctimonious crap about decorum: You see the future of politics both in Nigeria and elsewhere will be dominated by those courageous enough to stand up for some universal truths that more people can Identify with or at least those willing to stand up for half-truths. To engage in outright lies and self defeating calculations is simply boneheaded.Let me tell you, TRUTH HAS EVADED NIGERIA since 1966 and will remain so until someone from OUTSIDE the group of liars comes in to reinstate it. As we speak, you do not know Nigeria's real population and its distribution. You've been told that the north is more in number, but I know that in one of the previous elections, Ojukwu (inspite of his poor image in Nigeria) came almost second! I bet you that without rigging, he probably could have won! You really think like a retard frankly. |
mikeansy:Believe me the problem I have with you and people who share your views is that you are not strategic thinkers. Apart from a promise of Igbo president in 2015 (which I think is fake) you have nothing else to show for us to believe that supporting a northerner over Jonathan is a better move. If you think a little bit, you would see that even if the north support us for 2015 presidency, they would likely insist on a candidate of their choice, like they did with Obasanjo in the turn of Yorubas. I can assure you that is not what Ndigbo needs. ![]() We want far more than just a figure head president who would do northern bidding over Eastern or Igbo prerogatives. We simply need a base, a real base with clout. After building that base, we can confidently walk up the the rest of Nigeria and present one of us as president to them. They would trust us then because they would have seen what we did with our own region. |
marcdunu:Look, several times, the Yoruba have attempted to form a common front with Ndigbo. In spite of their ignoble role in Biafra, we have given them audience and voted twice for them. If we can do that for a people we share almost nothing with, we should do even more for those we share a region with. I happen to come from a school of political thought which sees Nigeria as the one of 1966 -North, West, Mid-West and East. If you look carefully, that structure is the most viable structure and have been used to share political things such as states and offices. Obasanjo wanted to pick someone from the old East to succeed him. He and his northern allies could not trust Ndigbo, but they knew that an Easterner should succeed the North. So, they picked Jonathan. The plan was for Yar adua to serve two terms and hand over to Jonathan for another two terms. That is the REAL TRUTH all thanks to Obasanjo and his northern allies. If they couldn't pick an Igbo man/woman to run with Yar adua as VP, what makes you think they would hand over to an Igbo in 2015? I have carefully followed utterances from northerners and they all hinted the same thing. They would complete their term and hand over to a South southerner. Mind you that this can be any one from South south (from Cross river to Edo). Jonathan is an ACT OF GOD. I have always known that the South south creation is a way to undermine Eastern Nigeria. If that is not the case, why are both the North and the West intact, but the East is balkanized into a mythical South east and South south? Jonathan understood these things hence his letter to Ndigbo. He is our opportunity to beat the northerner in his games against the East and Ndigbo. I want an Eastern Nigeria that can compete with the North and the West in terms of coordinated and integrated development as one geo-economic region. I want the South East to become an industrial hub with the ports in Calabar and Port Harcourt handling exports from the East. And so on and many more. . . All these begin with sharing a common political destiny. Jonathan is an opportunity to lay that foundation. |
mikeansy:I agree that we should debate the issues, but some things are easily identifiable in those issues. For instance, you say that Uwechue could have been bribed; what makes you think that Nnamani, Ekwueme and Solude are not being "bribed" too? In fact, I've told you this before, these PDP operatives have FAR MORE openings for being bribed than Uwechue and Ohanaeze. Jonathan is a sitting president remember? He has a lot of carrots in his kitty, especially PDP carrots.I somehow believe that it is easier to bribe PDP members than a non-member. Again, other Igbo bodies have fallen behind Ohanaeze, meaning that the endorsement is non-partisan. All Governors of the south east (including Peter Obi) endorsed Ohanaeze's position. It was Bill Clinton who said that "if you find a tortoise on top of a wall, chances are that it didn't get there on its own". This endorsement will follow Jonathan even if he loses PDP primaries and is adopted by another party. So that is the big picture. Trying to reduce it to PDP will make you lose the main point of this endorsement. |
jason12345:Believe me, that bolded part is the ultimate truth. Since the "Eyo Ita incidence" of the 50s, the north had lied against Ndigbo saying that we undermine our minority neighbors. From that era, these minorities have voted northern candidates. It has remain so even till now. Only this time, God is involved and that God has decided to right the wrongs and stop the lies. Now, Jonathan found himself (not through any fault of his) as the country's president. The north wanted to leap frog Ndigbo and that is how Jonathan became the VP. Well, Jonathan being a good son of his father, understood that Nigeria cannot move forward with the type of anti-Igbo games going on. So, he wrote to Ndigbo in 2006 pouring his heart out and sought our support to help him secure Eastern interests. Today, we are responding to that call and it is making some people uncomfortable. I wonder why. Just yesterday, some of them started to say that Jonathan is "unelectable" because of his minority Ijaw tribe. Well, if that is true, why did you pick him in the first place ahead of someone from a majority tribe? What games are you playing? You thought he could never develop the balls to go for the real thing? ![]() Anyway, Ndigbo are trying the bury the "Eyo Ita demon" once and for all. After next year, no one will accuse us of bullying our minority neighbors. |
This is the ultimate truth and I have always advocated for state governments to continue building good infrastructure and leave the economy to private enterprise. If Peter Obi can muster the courage to create a large industrial area and support it with even a mini-power plant, Anambras economic will leap ahead of other states in no time. |
My brother [b]Mike [/b]sometimes disappoints me. ![]() It is rather pedestrian to see the anti-Jonathan position of Ekwueme, Soludo and Ken Nnamani as some kind of big deal. Please note that they all belong to PDP and must necessarily have their preferred choice, example Nnamani supports IBB. These guys are doing so for PERSONAL reasons and not for group reasons. Jonathan has garnered Igbo support from across the political spectrum. What is shows is that Ndigbo have decided to play the Nigerian game like others. We have gained a lot of respect with this endorsement. Win or lose, Ndigbo gains massively. Please note that Ndigbo are doing what the North was scheming to do - which is to leapfrog Ndigbo in support of a south south candidate. That is how Jonathan become the VP in the first place. Since more Igbos have come to know that Jonathan wanted to carry us along even as a VP (through his letter to Ndigbo), his support in Igboland has zoomed to the sky. |
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