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PoliticsRe: Atiku "Selected" As Northern Consensus Candidate by Onlytruth(m): 6:04am On Nov 23, 2010
I'm laughing . . .
all the way to the bank! grin grin grin

Where's my isi-ewu and nkwobi plus nkwu enu! cool cool cool
PoliticsRe: 2011: Igbo Leaders Reaffirm Support For Jonathan by Onlytruth(op): 5:06am On Nov 22, 2010
I guess this is another version of the news from Vanguard.

Igbo leaders are speaking loud and clear.
Politics2011: Igbo Leaders Reaffirm Support For Jonathan by Onlytruth(op): 5:04am On Nov 22, 2010
[size=16pt]2011: Igbo leaders reaffirm support for Jonathan[/size]

By Tony Edike
ENUGU—IGBO political leaders in the five South Eastern states rose from a meeting in Enugu yesterday with a resolve to work tenaciously for the realization of President Goodluck Jonathan’s presidential ambition in the 2011.

At the town hall meeting held at Nike Lake Resort Hotel, Enugu, under the chairmanship of former Chief Judge of Enugu State, Justice Eze Ozobu (rtd), Igbo leaders also reiterated their commitment to the principle of zoning, saying it was the only recipe to end power struggle in the country.

Present at the meeting that lasted for over three hours were Chief Mbazulike Amechi, Chief Ojo Maduekwe, Prof Anya O. Anya, Senator Ebenezer Ikeyina, Chief Nnia Nwodo, Chief Onyema Ugochukwu, Chief Tony Ukasanya, Chief Anayo Onwuegbu, Chief Mrs. Sally Egbogu, Chief Frank Oramulu, Senator Emma Anosike, Chief Ugochukwu Agballa, Dr. Joe Nwaorgu, Prof. Donatus Onu, Prof Sam Ukpabi, Chief Chika Odom and Dr. Perry Iloegbunam among others.

In a 10-point communiqué issued at the end of the meeting and signed by Senator Ikeyina and Chief Ojo Maduekwe, the participants further endorsed the process of consultation by the apex Igbo socio-cultural organization, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, on the unfolding contest for power in the 2011 general elections.

In declaring their unflinching support for President Jonathan’s presidential bid, they however demanded that power should rotate to the South East in 2015 on the basis of the existing geopolitical zones and not on the pre-1914 North South divide.

“The Town Hall meeting believes that the only lasting recipe to tame the struggle for power in Nigeria and make our politics more gentle, would be a constitutional provision that guarantees the roration of power between the zones of Nigeria . In fact, the need to rotate power in Nigeria is now a settled issue; but the implementation remains problematic, hence the current debate.

“We believe that rotation of power should be conducted on the basis of existing geopolitical zones and not on the pre-1914 North-South divide. Furthermore, the principle of rotation of power should be binding on all political parties as a reflection of the unique history, needs and imperatives of the Nigerian federation.

Henceforth, rotation of power should be designed to immediately accommodate the zone that has not exercised the power of the presidency and then, it should next continue to those that have exercised such powers for the least period of time in the past,” the communiqué said.

They therefore stressed the need for the South-South to be supported for next year’s presidential poll while the South-East follows thereafter.

“It is instructive that besides the imperatives of justice and our desire to foster a more cordial relationship with our brothers in the South-South and other zones of the country, a principal reason for the support pledged to His Excellency, President Goodluck Jonathan is the public testimony of the governors of the South East that they have enjoyed unparalleled collaborative goodwill in search for solutions to the many concerns of the zone from the president, in the short period that he has been in office.

“Consequently, the meeting urges the political, socio-cultural and civil organizational leadership in the South East zone to work and give effect to the support pledged to President Jonathan,” the Igbo leaders further stated even as they urged President Jonathan to continue to pay attention to the priority needs of Ndigbo.

Earlier in an address, Professor Anya O. Anya, said the best political decision Ndigbo have taken in the current dispensation was the endorse President Jonathan, stressing that it had been a collective desire of Ndigbo to produce the president in 2015 since Jonathan would not seek re-election after 2015 as he would not be sworn-in twice constitutionally as president.

He called on Igbo supporters of Northern presidential aspirants to have a change of mind and support Jonathan’s ambition.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/11/2011-igbo-leaders-reaffirm-support-for-jonathan/
PoliticsRe: Our Deal With Jonathan, By Igbo Leaders by Onlytruth(m): 4:45am On Nov 22, 2010
ChinenyeN:
Actually, I mean Ngwa and Igbo, but naturally, Ngwa first and foremost. Igbo secondary.
You see why you are NOT qualified to debate Igbo issues? YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SEE PAST NGWALAND.

You forget that Ngwaland is INSIDE Igboland.
Aba is even owned to great extents by my Nnewi people. So what the fkc are you even talking about?

If I can secure Igboland, I have secured Ngwaland too, can't you see that?
PoliticsRe: Our Deal With Jonathan, By Igbo Leaders by Onlytruth(m): 4:40am On Nov 22, 2010
ChinenyeN:
To implement some of my already laid out socio-economic and socio-cultural plans, for my region. Problem is that I don't have the resources with which to begin implementing those plans. So, I'm looking at a span of 2+ years before real work can begin, because of lack of resources, which I'm unhappy about, but at least my plans are already set, and so, I can use this time to make any real and necessary adjustments to them.
You mean Ngwaland?
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:32am On Nov 22, 2010
ChinenyeN:
OnlyTruth, you must lack some serious comprehension, in this particular instance, because there is nothing to summarize. The message is rather short and simple.
hahahaha! hehehe! grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Vision from ngwaland. grin
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:29am On Nov 22, 2010
jason12345:
read what chinenyeN brought out. you did not understand what mike was saying
Can you summarize what he was trying to say, since you so much understand him and I don't?
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:27am On Nov 22, 2010
ChinenyeN:
Why are you here raising Ngwa hell? It's been weeks/months since we last bothered ourselves with that issue, and you're here running your mouth? Have you nothing sufficient to say?
Can you summarize your points and then move on?  huh undecided

You are still free to choose your scope of vision, remember?
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:21am On Nov 22, 2010
jason12345:
you did not understand what mike was telling you. if you did, you would not reply in that manner.
So when did Mike become this ngwaboy called Chinenye?
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:04am On Nov 22, 2010
ChinenyeN:
OnlyTruth, are you even making an effort to read what someone is writing to you? What kind of a response is this. . .

To This. . . ?

and Mike, thank you for the bolded. I just don't get why these devouts find it so hard to understand that. That has been the main point of most people opposed to what Ohanaeze has been about doing, but they don't get that; always running their mouth, trying to convince someone of why Jonathan is 'the right candidate', when Jonathan's qualifications aren't even the reason for the opposition, in the first place.
@Chinenye

If you have not noticed, I don't debate you anymore. cool cool
Bro you can believe whatever you want! undecided undecided undecided
It is not my fault that you cannot see past Ngwaland. cry

I am a Nnewi man and we don't have to share views on Igbo affairs.

Vote anyway you want, but don't try to take on something far bigger than your worldview 'cos frankly you cannot understand it.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 12:23am On Nov 22, 2010
jason12345:
yes i love Igbos so much!!!! kiss kiss kiss wink grin. but my analysis was from a political point of view. and yeah, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR NDIGBO OR ANY REGION AND THAT INCLUDES YOU
There is NO WAY I can know what is best for Yoruba more than you 'cos you are one of them. Same way you cannot know what is best for Ndigbo more than myself, 'cos . . . you know the rest of that!
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 12:20am On Nov 22, 2010
udezue:
[b]They are afraid that after this win or lose Ibibio, Igbo, Ijaw, Ogoni, Urhobo Midwest and East will have greater bond [/b]and the idea that the Igbo man seek the support of the Ijaw or Urhobo or Efik vice versa will be shattered. [b]The Northern political relevance have been dependent on Easterners and the South and even Middlebelt fighting eachother [/b]but its finna be an old story.
The ultimate truth.

The whole thing is almost an ACT of God. Nigeria's political board will change for ever if we stay this course. It is delicate and needs experience, a sense of history, knowledge of the issues involved and measured laser-like political steps; but, I thank God for a man like Uwechue.  cool
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:49pm On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
. . .  . and that is what Onlytruth does not understand!!! cool cool grin grin grinmake i run!
And I'm supposed to believe that YOU and amingafar have the best of Ndigbo at heart?
You guys love Igbos so much!  undecided undecided undecided

rollin' on da floor.  grin grin
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:42pm On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
I think you should heed your own advice, and in case you are confused who has been doing the insults then kindly read your previous posts.

Your right to support Jonathan because you believe in him is what I have been arguing for. What I reject is the suggestion that everyone else must support Jonathan because you and Uwechue says so.

When the time for politics come we will see who has been playing chess and who has been playing checkers. Stay tuned as the drama unfolds.
You still don't get it, do you?

I have ALREADY won!

The outcome is IRRELEVANT.

Ol'boy, I can't break it down for you any further.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:36pm On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
Can you please pull up my previous post on Nairaland where I have suggested the bit in bold?

Before electoral act, my debate was If zoning was the only way we could do politics in Nigeria then lets have it in the electoral act otherwise lets discard zoning entirely. Electoral act came and went nobody included zoning in the electoral act and since then I have opposed zoning.

So only you will know how you arrived at that conclusion.

All I have maintained and continued to maintain is that Jonathan has not proved he is up to the job. And I still maintain that.

So you can continue doing what Jonathan and his blind supporters do which is to accuse anyone who does not jump on their band wagon to either being IBB supporter, or Northern supporter or to have taken bribe.

Once upon a time you were among those that were accused of being IBB supporter merely because you question Jonathan's leadership, its amazing that you have now gone full circle and now assume anyone who does not jump on your band wagon of the same thing you were once accused.

My argument on this issue is in Ohaneze, there are PDP, APGA, PPA, ACN members in Ohaneze Ndigb. What brings them together is common language and culture. It is not the place of Ohaneze to endorse any candidate. That has been my argument. If that means supporting Northern candidates to you then thats your problem.

I owe Jonathan no responsibility to support him if I believe that he is not up to the job. I do not wish to do so either because Onlytruth and Uwechue says so.
As I have told you several times before, you are an Igbo man and entitled to vote according to your whims and caprices.
Just don't hound us Jonathan supporters.
Yes I used to question his leadership abilities until he won me over.
I also changed because I saw the game others were playing and being a determined student of history, I've decided to beat them in their games.

You don't have to agree with me, but don't insult me next time.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:25pm On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
nobody said you would not be nigerians.

what i am saying is from a political point of view, you will likely be marginalised (politically not economically)
You sound as if Jonathan is going to be a south/south east president only.

He is the president of Nigeria. ALL NIGERIANS.

We are only working to help elect him to serve ALL NIGERIANS.
Gerrit please!
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:16pm On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
You are the retarded one.

You are also half smart trust me.

Obasanjo was President for 8years, Does Ogun State look significantly different from the rest of Nigeria?
Yar'adua was President for 3years, Does Katsina look significantly differently from the rest of Nigeria?

You are over-estimating what Jonathan or any other President can actually do for you. This is a democracy where most projects by the Presidency will need NASS approval. So Jonathan Goodluck will not break the CBN and move all the money to the South East in the middle of night.

And trust me you will never understand Nigeria's politics by sitting in America. Come back home and you will understand that your alliances are not as black and white as you think they are. Don't sit in America, formulate ridiculous political ideas, assume you know and try to bully others to accept it.

Stop abusing me, it makes you look cheap. BTW you can not also bully me, I doubt you may be able to speak to me in real life if we are in the same room because you sound like a small boy. Don't be a voice for Ndigbo in New York, Texas,etc. It is no use standing for folks abroad who don't need your services. Come back home and do your North vs South Politics.
So why are you desperate to have a northern rule next year in order to (according to their tales) pass power to Igbo in 2015? Why are you so up in arms that Ndigbo are supporting Jonathan?

I never said that Jonathan will solve all our problems, but he has already started to do some things that nobody has done before. But more importantly, you still somehow fail to reason along my logic which is that the presidency is not the most important thing for Ndigbo now. We need regional integration. You still fail to see that and yet go on talking trash.
You are really retarded.

I am in Nnewi by the way. I am more at home than you!
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:11pm On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
sorry, but i thought this was a forum for NIGERIANS not just igbos. what affects igbos affects any nigerian. anyway, i'll stop posting on this thread. btw, i don't have fake love for Ndigbo wink. and i have said, " stop this "us" vs "them" mentality. it is very bad to distance yourself from every one.
There is no us vs them attitude. There is a "we can too" attitude though.  cool
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:07pm On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
@ onlytruth

the reasons stated above is the reason why i said you are looking at it from a sentimental point of view not political.pls, no insults. lets have an intelligent discussion
Believe me, I am not an emotional thinker. Not by a loooooooooooog shot.

I am merely taking a strategic (regional ) perspective.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 11:05pm On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
because those were military coups undecided.

in a democratic setup, i think you should be able to see it from mikeansy's point of view. what if GJ does not win the primaries or the election? don't you think Ndigbo would be marginalised politicallyhuh?? don't you think there would be no bases for the agitation of an igbo presidenthuh? did you not take into account that any deal with GJ can be jettisoned (if zoning can)huh? did you not take into account that his letter and any deal, is all politicshuh? cool cool cool
And why are you so concerned about Igbo political fortunes in Nigeria?
Why is this Igbo support of Jonathan troubling you so much?

Believe me, any smart Igbo can see through your fake love.
If Jonathan loses, then so be it! We are still Nigerians aren't we? We will still present one of us (Easterners) again in 2015. QED.  cool cool
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 10:54pm On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
don't you see any irony??
Nigeria's second name is irony. If not so, how come the least educated part of the country has ruled more than the most educated?
How come we have more population in the desert than we have in the rain forests? Where else in the world are things done like they are done in Nigeria?
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 10:52pm On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
Election rigging is becoming outdated and public oppinion is shifting towards free and fair elections.

It is amazing that someone who fancies himself as a strategic thinker wants to base his strategy on a practice that most people are rejecting.

Your strategy will not last 2 election cycles mate.

Rather it will banish Ndigbo into being outcasts in Nigerian Politics. You forget that Jonathan will not be President forever. He is operating in a democracy and can only do a lot.
You are really naive. undecided

Your party PDP is known for a lot of things, and free and fair elections is not one of them.  cool

Nobody will banish Ndigbo if we follow this game to the end. cool
We need things in Nigeria and those things have been denied us for 40 years. If Jonathan will give us those things, I will support him and let the chips fall where they may.

You really sound retarded honestly.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 10:48pm On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
Ever heard of the expression he who goes to equity must come with clean hands? You want to right the wrongs in Nigeria but you openly promote the stealing of the people's vote. So that it will be on record that when Jonathan stole the people's mandate Ohaneze openly encouraged him to do so?

Nobody expects 2011 elections to be perfect, but we all have a duty to ourselves and the Nation to at least pretend it will be perfect so that the process can be perfected.

At the rate you are going I really question the future of any organisation you lead. And folks like me will not sit back and watch thugs who think it is ok for Ohaneze to openly support Jonathan if he plans to steal the people's vote.

Folks like you must never be allowed to be the voice of Ndigbo. This is political dissaster waiting to happen.

What if those you collude with to steal 2011 elections decide not to collude with you to steal 2015 elections? Then you will hang out dry and isolated!!!!!!!!!!

If your strategic plan is based on a 4year plan, some of us are basing our Strategy on then 50years. So chill you are a little boy.

This is why I say to you that what you think you seen standing, some of us have seen since sitting down.
grin grin grin grin grin

You give me too much credit. It is good though.  cool cool cool

For your information, I ALREADY HAVE A VOICE in Igboland.  cool cool cool

You can go on and wallow in your retarded and dodgy cosmopolitanism; just know that you are not fooling anyone.

Being a PDP member and DESPERATE for YOUR candidate from the north to win says everything about you. You are a political thug in PDP.

I am not even a member of PDP. I am an APGA man.

Nationally though, I am a GEJA supporter. Am I not entitled to support my candidate?
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 10:40pm On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
^^^^^^

You can abuse me all you like but it clearly proves one thing. When you present Jonathan's supporters with a superior argument they accuse you of being selfish.

My only advice for you is that nobody has monopoly of knowledge. It is not up to you to define for me what my regional interest is.

You can make an argument of what you think it should be but you should also realise my right to oppose. It is called democracy.

All I will say to you is to grow up. Jonathan is not the best candidate in my view.  That does not mean throwing anyone under the bus. It simply means recognising my civil responsibilities. I have no plans to abdicate my civil responsibility to you or Uwechue.
Hey dude!  shocked shocked angry

How do you come off sounding as if anyone is pointing a gun to your head to vote for Jonathan?  huh huh

If I didn't know better I'd probably think you are not Igbo. undecided You sound paranoid.

By all means, exercise your free choice and will. Just don't come here saying things you have NO CLUE about.
And when you want to refute an argument, do so directly. Don't come sounding retarded just to prove irrelevant cosmopolitanism.

Your type is described as those who go to a long swords war armed with daggers and then hope that the enemy is charitable enough to cut you some slack.  undecided undecided

I wouldn't follow you to that war.   undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 10:21pm On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
this is one of the most mature and REALISTIC post i have seen on this thread.

onlytruth, you should learn from your brother. he is simply tell you the reality.

i repeat,

1) the north and Mb would vote for themselves (thus having more states)
2) the SW, ondo and edo would vote for themselves (ACN)

Gj will not win without rigging it.

onlytruth, you have to be strategic and leave sentiments out of politics. instead, deal with the reality on ground. if GJ does not win, how would ohanaeze demand something from the new president knowing full well that he is hated by ohanaeze (based on your strategy of just supporting GJ because he is your neighbour)?

LETS SEE 2011!!!
I never said I was sentimental. undecided undecided undecided

I am a cold strategic thinker.  Again I never said that Jonathan must win fairly. He doesn't have to. undecided undecided

If Nigerians wanted fairness, they would have designed a fair system instead of a system that masks the truth and heaps power on Aso rock.
My concern now is for Jonathan to defeat his opponents and fix some of the things wrong with Nigeria, 'cos if those things are not fixed, Nigeria will not survive. It will disintegrate. Jonathan is Nigeria's last chance to survive.

Some of the things I say here is not meant for elevated thinkers. I have to say these things because I want to rally all Ndigbo to support Jonathan come what may.  cool
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 10:13pm On Nov 21, 2010
@ mikeansy

You are really getting desperate and have started to throw things hoping that something sticks!

Listen, you are too selfish and too self centered to see anything. Strategic thinking is not for selfish people. You should be able to see outside of your immediate needs to really see the big picture. By selfishness I mean you must be angling for some personal gain, that is why you are hustling to throw your people and their regional interests under the bus.

So what do we do as a people? Do we exploit the times we live, build bridges and enter new frontiers? Project our values into the mainstream of politics and promote our aspirations so that all Nigerians can see that what we yearn for can actually benefit all Nigerians Igbos & non-Igbos alike?
OR should we experiment on the tried and tired tactics of our detractors which is based on divide and rule, connivance, calculations and self-defeating clandestine motives. You seem to prefer the later.
So what do you think Jonathan has been trying to do since he declared his interest to run? You talk about Nigerian politics as if it is some kind of holy grail; when was the last time an election was free and fair in Nigeria? huh huh You talk about divide and rule; who has been dividing and ruling since 1960? huh huh huh
You really sound so retarded! shocked shocked shocked

While you are here yapping, just watch, the same people will strike a deal with Jonathan and even vote for him when they see that they have no choice, because frankly, Nigerian presidency was made powerful by the same people to enable them toy with Nigeria as they deem fit.

So how do you come here preaching some sanctimonious crap about decorum:

You see the future of politics both in Nigeria and elsewhere will be dominated by those courageous enough to stand up for some universal truths that more people can Identify with or at least those willing to stand up for half-truths. To engage in outright lies and self defeating calculations is simply boneheaded.
Let me tell you, TRUTH HAS EVADED NIGERIA since 1966 and will remain so until someone from OUTSIDE the group of liars comes in to reinstate it. As we speak, you do not know Nigeria's real population and its distribution.

You've been told that the north is more in number, but I know that in one of the previous elections, Ojukwu (inspite of his poor image in Nigeria) came almost second! I bet you that without rigging, he probably could have won!

You really think like a retard frankly. undecided undecided undecided shocked
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 9:03am On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
I have told you what I have told you, anybody can be accused of bribe or any ulterior motive. Let us debate the merits of the issues.

This is how they accused Ojukwu of bribe for simply saying that he likes IBB because he has a sense of humour.

Now you want to accuse Soludo and Ekwueme for personal agenda because they do not agree with Uwechue.

We all have right to form our own views without being accused of having clandestine motive, that is what I need you to understand.

You are simply joining the band wagon of people who accuse anybody who does not support Jonathan of one thing or the other.
Believe me the problem I have with you and people who share your views is that you are not strategic thinkers.
Apart from a promise of Igbo president in 2015 (which I think is fake) you have nothing else to show for us to believe that supporting a northerner over Jonathan is a better move.
If you think a little bit, you would see that even if the north support us for 2015 presidency, they would likely insist on a candidate of their choice, like they did with Obasanjo in the turn of Yorubas. I can assure you that is not what Ndigbo needs. undecided undecided
We want far more than just a figure head president who would do northern bidding over Eastern or Igbo prerogatives. We simply need a base, a real base with clout. After building that base, we can confidently walk up the the rest of Nigeria and present one of us as president to them. They would trust us then because they would have seen what we did with our own region.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 8:52am On Nov 21, 2010
marcdunu:
@ . . . Onlytruth

Ndigbo do not owe Ijaws any appologies. If anything they should appologies to us for betraying us just so they can claim our abondoned properties.

But they have not. So what is the basis of you new found unity?
Look, several times, the Yoruba have attempted to form a common front with Ndigbo. In spite of their ignoble role in Biafra, we have given them audience and voted twice for them. If we can do that for a people we share almost nothing with, we should do even more for those we share a region with.

I happen to come from a school of political thought which sees Nigeria as the one of 1966 -North, West, Mid-West and East.

If you look carefully, that structure is the most viable structure and have been used to share political things such as states and offices.
Obasanjo wanted to pick someone from the old East to succeed him. He and his northern allies could not trust Ndigbo, but they knew that an Easterner should succeed the North. So, they picked Jonathan. The plan was for Yar adua to serve two terms and hand over to Jonathan for another two terms. That is the REAL TRUTH all thanks to Obasanjo and his northern allies.

If they couldn't pick an Igbo man/woman to run with Yar adua as VP, what makes you think they would hand over to an Igbo in 2015?

I have carefully followed utterances from northerners and they all hinted the same thing. They would complete their term and hand over to a South southerner. Mind you that this can be any one from South south (from Cross river to Edo).

Jonathan is an ACT OF GOD. I have always known that the South south creation is a way to undermine Eastern Nigeria. If that is not the case, why are both the North and the West intact, but the East is balkanized into a mythical South east and South south?

Jonathan understood these things hence his letter to Ndigbo. He is our opportunity to beat the northerner in his games against the East and Ndigbo.

I want an Eastern Nigeria that can compete with the North and the West in terms of coordinated and integrated development as one geo-economic region. I want the South East to become an industrial hub with the ports in Calabar and Port Harcourt handling exports from the East. And so on and many more. . .

All these begin with sharing a common political destiny. Jonathan is an opportunity to lay that foundation.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:50am On Nov 21, 2010
mikeansy:
Onlytruth

with what Guage do you determine who is taking his positions for personal reasons and who is taking his for group reasons?

who is to say Uwechue's decisions can not be for personal reasons?

I have argued this severally, whatever political decisions you make. It will benefit someone and malign some other person.

Just as you can accuse Ekwueme and co for pursuing a personal agenda, you can also accuse Uwechue of pursuing his own personal agenda which could include bribery.

So lets not mudsling because if we do, we all loose. Let us debate the merits and demerits of each decisions.
I agree that we should debate the issues, but some things are easily identifiable in those issues.

For instance, you say that Uwechue could have been bribed; what makes you think that Nnamani, Ekwueme and Solude are not being "bribed" too? huh  In fact, I've told you this before, these PDP operatives have FAR MORE openings for being bribed than Uwechue and Ohanaeze. Jonathan is a sitting president remember? He has a lot of carrots in his kitty, especially PDP carrots.

I somehow believe that it is easier to bribe PDP members than a non-member. Again, other Igbo bodies have fallen behind Ohanaeze, meaning that the endorsement is non-partisan.  All Governors of the south east (including Peter Obi) endorsed Ohanaeze's position.

It was Bill Clinton who said that "if you find a tortoise on top of a wall, chances are that it didn't get there on its own".

This endorsement will follow Jonathan even if he loses PDP primaries and is adopted by another party. So that is the big picture. Trying to reduce it to PDP will make you lose the main point of this endorsement.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:30am On Nov 21, 2010
jason12345:
pls, explain the bolded part
Believe me, that bolded part is the ultimate truth.

Since the "Eyo Ita incidence" of the 50s, the north had lied against Ndigbo saying that we undermine our minority neighbors. From that era, these minorities have voted northern candidates. It has remain so even till now. Only this time, God is involved and that God has decided to right the wrongs and stop the lies.

Now, Jonathan found himself (not through any fault of his) as the country's president.
The north wanted to leap frog Ndigbo and that is how Jonathan became the VP. Well, Jonathan being a good son of his father, understood that Nigeria cannot move forward with the type of anti-Igbo games going on. So, he wrote to Ndigbo in 2006 pouring his heart out and sought our support to help him secure Eastern interests.

Today, we are responding to that call and it is making some people uncomfortable. I wonder why. undecided undecided
Just yesterday, some of them started to say that Jonathan is "unelectable" because of his minority Ijaw tribe. Well, if that is true, why did you pick him in the first place ahead of someone from a majority tribe?  huh huh What games are you playing?  huh huh You thought he could never develop the balls to go for the real thing? huh huh huh

Anyway, Ndigbo are trying the bury the "Eyo Ita demon" once and for all.

After next year, no one will accuse us of bullying our minority neighbors.
PoliticsRe: Anambra Poverty Rate Lowest In Nigeria - NAPEP by Onlytruth(m): 4:18am On Nov 21, 2010
This is the ultimate truth and I have always advocated for state governments to continue building good infrastructure and leave the economy to private enterprise. If Peter Obi can muster the courage to create a large industrial area and support it with even a mini-power plant, Anambras economic will leap ahead of other states in no time.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Jonathan, Ohanaeze Leaders Plot Against North by Onlytruth(m): 4:09am On Nov 21, 2010
My brother [b]Mike [/b]sometimes disappoints me. cry cry cry sad

It is rather pedestrian to see the anti-Jonathan position of Ekwueme, Soludo and Ken Nnamani as some kind of big deal.

Please note that they all belong to PDP and must necessarily have their preferred choice, example Nnamani supports IBB.

These guys are doing so for PERSONAL reasons and not for group reasons.

Jonathan has garnered Igbo support from across the political spectrum.

What is shows is that Ndigbo have decided to play the Nigerian game like others.

We have gained a lot of respect with this endorsement. Win or lose, Ndigbo gains massively.

Please note that Ndigbo are doing what the North was scheming to do - which is to leapfrog Ndigbo in support of a south south candidate.
That is how Jonathan become the VP in the first place.

Since more Igbos have come to know that Jonathan wanted to carry us along even as a VP (through his letter to Ndigbo), his support in Igboland has zoomed to the sky.

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