OkutaNla: But it's the truth!!! Haiti is the POOREST country in the world. It is also the most unstable, worst governed, and the worst FAILED state in the history of failed states. Am just schooling him that Haiti is the worst country anyone should brag about, yet he's implying a Haiti model for Biafra? That is typical of them ignorant Biafrans --they beat their chest over st.upid shyt
What is important is to elevate the debate and not to indulge in the ethnocentrism that formed the staple diet of some commentators, from birth. Are you aware that Dutty Boukman, who inspired one of the greatest revolutions ever documented (the Haitian revolution), was of Yoruba origin? Don't go shooting yourself in the foot just to satisfy the caprices of reprobates. That's all I am saying.
nwanlecha: Chai see 'painment.' LOL! Whenever the Igbo race is concerned, only the yoruba people will go to any extent to try and belittle the achievements of Ndi Igbo, who keep proving to the 'whites' that the black race can be a force to be reckoned with. Based on @OnReflection's comments, any foreigner who is new to this thread will automatically assume that he is a jealous, old, white racist, who probably can't live with the fact that a particular black race is as good if not better than the 'whites' when it comes to intelligence. The person will never believe that @OnReflection is a fellow black man. SMH. Truth be told, jealousy and envy remain the bane of the Yoruba nation.
How were they able to determine which student comes from Yoruba, Ibo background? Did the students or their parents fill out a questionnaire? Were they interviewed? Or did they make conclusions based on their names?
Can the OP give us a link to the actual journal this research was published in??
Of course parents do not fill in a questionaire. If you read me well, I highlighted the limitation of this report much earlier on. I mentioned the limited cohort, drawn from schools in one Local Authority Area (LEA), and also self-identification as inherent constraints. To be clear on what informed my views, I also provided a link to the actual report.
Kastonkastroll: A Yoruba man taught the ibos how to read and write, go and find out. So I don't know how a iboman can be more intelligent than a Yoruba man.... Even before the arrival of the whiteman to Africa, the Yoruba's were already reading and writing in our dialect. We produced our own local weapons like guns, arrows, machetes etc because of the constant wars we were fighting.
When it comes to intelligence comparison between Yoruba's and our fellow compatriots in Africa, the yorubas are far above you all. The ibos are not even close to yorubas when intelligence is mentioned, the ashantis of Ghana are even ahead of you ibo people.
Besides this research never said the ibos are the most intelligent black people around, if it did say so, please tell me were the researchers said ibos are the most intelligent people in Africa.
^^^The emboldened claims are precisely what inspires threads like this. In the cold light of day, they do little to advance the collective interests of Africans.
OkutaNla: Guy, you should cover your face in shame for using Haiti, The worst and poorest country and Failed state in the western hemisphere and indeed the world as the a representation of your people! Ate u saying Biafra would have become like Haiti due to igbo connection? Smh
This is not the right approach to take OkutaNla. You can correct falsehood without denigrating the people of Haiti.
Whether this is the real John Dongara remains to be seen as no serious academician will criticise another academic work over yahoo or Google mails based on an anonymous inquirer who refused to inquire from the ACM ; Association of Computer Machinery.
If the inquiry was genuinely made it would have been sent to the Association of Computer Machinery and not to a single judge whose identify has not been verified and confirmed.
^^^LoL
So Toyin Adepoju (a respected scholar of Benin origin) is now an anonymous inquirer? Keep on consoling yourself.
SonOfEl: its like you are having concussions. who talked about his wife? and as long as you exist in NL, I will always deflate your balloonic antagonism.
this year alone, emeagwali was featured in the black history month in the US, so keep dying inside okay? you love been bashed...Stockholm syndrome at its best.
^^^So? Isn't that now his stock in trade? Do we not have other types of faith-based, miracle workers being celebrated up and down Africa? What makes you think that a certain section of the Afrocentric movement, which distorts facts - in order to counter 'white supremacy' - is not capable of doing the same.
As I advised you earlier; keep your conjectural musings to yourself.
" A PEOPLE THAT SEEK TO BE WISE, MUST FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE DULL."
That's one reason behind our success.
Of course I celebrate achievement where I see it. But what I won't do is to regal in embellishment and blatant falsehood.
"Tell no lies. Expose lies whenever they are told. Mask no difficulties, mistakes, failures [and] Claim no easy victories" - Amilcar Cabral (one of the greatest African thinkers who ever lived)
OfoIgbo: No, it should go to Igbos because when you average out the number for the 3 years, Igbos will be tens of percentage point above Lugandans. Igbos have even made a perfect score of 100%, but Lugandans have never smelled a score above 83%
^^^You are having a laff. Do you even know how the stats were compiled. I wish I had all day and the wherewithal to enlighten unexposed commentators like you, but I quite frankly don't. Like I said earlier, given the comparatively lower number of Igbo students included the study - who, at any rate, tend to attend better 'catholic' schools - one would have expected even more remarkable results. But this is clearly not the case. Attainment of Black pupils is tending upwards, but it is still a far cry from what we expect!
Listen, I know enough about this report and the constraints like self-identification - which underline it - to comment objectively. Most of you do not.
kettykin: If John Dongara meant that Emeagwali was a fraud then why did his committee award the Gordon Bell prize to him.
No need to indulge in more obfuscation kettykin, the following is precisely what Dongara wrote:
He had nothing to do with the development of the CM-2. He had nothing to do with the development of the internet. I know of no contribution that Emeagali has made in computational science. His work on the Bell Prize has had no impact.
SonOfEl: your area of expertise? pls stop disgracing that field.
the uniqueness of emeagwali was his fantastic level of IQ compared to other Gordon bell prize winners. at a time, he was said to be the smartest man alive. stop claiming what you are totally ignorant of.
Mumurity.
Listen, no one - I repeat, no one - is disputing the accomplishments of Philips' Wife.
Biographies of Scientists: Dale Brown Emeagwali - Microbiologist and Community Leader
Dale Brown Emeagwali was born December 24, 1954, in Baltimore, Maryland. Her parents are Leon and Doris Brown. Mr. Brown worked for the publication AFRO-American, and Mrs. Brown was a teacher with the Baltimore city school system. They encouraged her studies and provided an outlet for her interest in science.
She attended Alexander Hamilton Elementary School and Northwestern High School, graduating in 1972. She enrolled at Coppin State College, an historically black college in Baltimore that is part of the University System of Maryland, and graduated in 1976. Emeagwali credits her later successes to "good teachers as good training" at Coppin State. After her first class in microbiology, she decided on a biology major.
She then attended Georgetown University School of Medicine, in Washington, DC, receiving her Ph.D. in microbiology in 1981. Her work involved bacteria found in soil, as well as viruses and protozoans.
While living in Minneapolis, working as a research fellow at the University of Minnesota, she worked on the African American Science Day, encouraging students to study science.
In an interview by Megan Sullivan for the National Science Teachers Association, Emeagwali states:
The overall goal of my work has always been to answer fundamental questions about cellular processes. I also like my work to have potential significant applications in the medical field. Thus, my interests lead me to conduct research in various areas including microbial physiology, virology, biochemistry, and molecular biology. A typical day involves checking on previous experiments, setting up new investigations, and analyzing data. While I find my work fun, it does get busy at times. The reward of obtaining new data makes it worth the effort. In addition to laboratory research, time must also be spent writing papers and reading to keep up with new developments.
Her work in cancer research includes the discovery that antisense methodology can inhibit cancer-gene expression. She has also demonstrated that isozymes of kynurenine formamidase exist in Streptomyces parvulus, a bacterium.
Emeagwali is currently an Assistant Professor in the Biology Department at Morgan State University in Baltimore.
Dr. Emeagwali is married to Philip Emeagwali, a computer scientist. They have one son.
Honors and Awards:
Scientist of the Year, USA National Technical Association, 1996 Fellowship, Uniformed Services University Health Sciences Fellowship, National Institutes of Health Fellowship, Damon Runyon-Walter Winchell Cancer Fund Fellowship, American Cancer Society Fellowship, National Science Foundation
No one is disputing the achievements of many celebrated Igbo scientists either. But for as long as you continue peddling retarded musings, and as long as I exist on NL, expect to be taken to the cleaners. I do it for fun....
Footnote: Keep your flights of fantasy to yourself, and you won't have a problem.
SonOfEl: keep living in denial, emeagwali is a computer genius who at one time, I think 2009, was the guy with the third highest IQ just after a Caucasian and an Asian. Google it up and stop fooling your bitter soul.
Google what up? Here is someone with poor tools of analysis referring me to search engine.
You must be having a laff, if you think I need to consult google about my area of expertise.
Gordon Bell, 76, a pioneer in high-performance and parallel computing for whom the prize won by Mr. Emeagwali is named, said the entry that earned the Nigerian scientist the award had nothing to do with the Internet.
"He was able to get time on the Connection Machine at the right time and run a large program of oil reservoir modeling," Mr. Bell, a principal researcher with Microsoft Silicon Valley Research Group in San Francisco, said in an email to NEXT.
"The Internet is another thing. No evidence that he had anything to do with the Internet," he said. Mr. Bell, who provided the financial support for the annual Gordon Prize, is an influential fellow of the world's two largest professional associations of computer experts - the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers, and the Association for Computing Machinery.
But when asked whether he was aware of Mr. Emeagwali's contribution to the evolution of the Internet, Mr. Bell said, "Not that any of my friends who worked on the Internet recall. His bio on Wikipedia is most interesting and in itself seems to be controversial," he said, in reference to the Wikipedia article on the Nigerian scientist, which only stopped short of calling Mr. Emeagwali a liar.
"Apart from the prize itself, there is no evidence that Emeagwali's work was ever accepted for publication in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, nor that it had any other lasting impact on the field of high-performance-computing or the development of the Internet. Neither does he hold any recognized patents for his results
Who wrote the blog and what is the source of the so called "STATS" .
We have some bar charts which are unattributed so we have to ask again who wrote the blog.
It is worse than useless
The original report on attainment in UK schools is fine @omonnakoda. It is the willful distortion of facts by @OP that is blatantly dishonest. Look at the usual band of NL urchins jerk..ing off to claims of racial superiority. Not fully satisfied with standing the logic on its head, they've now taken to distorting history with claims that reside in the realms of phantasm.
kettykin: See how those people tried to rubbish Philip Emeagwali and okonjo iweala, at a time all their media were publishing false information against Philip Emeagwali to the extent that Dora Akunyili as the information minister vowed to get to the root of the problem and to set up a committee that would investigate all the claims made by the lagos media
Igbos have beaten this people home and away even in their home turf, at home they attributed it to the effect of magic centres, Abroad they are now questioning the site authority, in their home turf they claim it was because they accommodated igbos.
, My suggestion to igbos is to press on peacefully for biafra, biafra would be at par with Germany, Japan and Israel in economy, military and technology .We have wasted too much time with nigeria.
^^^Here we go - layering yet more lies on a wobbly premise, as expected of an ethnic ideologue.
Go and read up on what Jack Dongarra had to say about Philip Emeagwal's touted achievements.
from Jack Dongarra <dong...@eecs.utk.edu> to toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com> date 4 November 2010 11:13 subject Re: ENQUIRY ON PHILIP EMEAGWALI,WINNER OF THE 1989 GORDON BELL PRIZE mailed-by eecs.utk.edu
This was over 22 years ago and I really don't remember. I would disagree with much of what you have written. He had nothing to do with the development of the CM-2. He had nothing to do with the development of the internet. I know of no contribution that Emeagali has made in computational science. His work on the Bell Prize has had no impact. Hope this is clear.
If you are still confused afterwards, find out precisely what Gordon Bell himself said his about supposed contribution to the development of the internet.
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on ~ Winston Churchill
alfred5: Bia Mr Man, before you argue , do check Unity school and Jamb cut off mark. Are they true or not? If yes, then close your mouth. If no, o ya continue.
Let me tell you this for nothing; some would argue that since Igbo youth mainly attend catholic schools (generally the best performing schools in London), the results that have you salivating should be even more impressive. Sadly there are not.
The achievement of Black pupils is rising but not fast enough - a point anyone conversant with the workings of the British education system would understand.
See, it is precisely these salient points that flies over the head of ethnic jingoists like you. No understanding; no concept of what is at stake; but propelled by inordinate pride in abilities that are not fully developed yet.
========================================= Given the sample size of 411, the following applies:
# of Lugandan pupils in the report = 4 # of Igbo pupils = 16 # of Yoruba pupils = 90
pazienza: Lugandas over the three year period had an average percentage of 64% while the Igbo had an average of 85.
You number of pupils obviously had no influence on the average result.
What's more? JAMB and Unity schools stats are still pointing to Igbos being ahead of Yorubas, and in the process complement this report.
Like I said before, you have no point.
You take an average over 3 years, in order to achieve an ephemeral high, when you have no concept or understanding of the numbers involved? Listen, it is an exercise in futility arguing with an untutored mind.
pazienza: You have no point. Over a period of three years, the Igbo cumulatively are head and shoulders above the lugandas and krios, from the table you showed.
Imagine at a point, Igbos had 100%.
I have no point? You think you are addressing one of your co-travelling scallywags?
Now hear this:
Given the sample size of 411, the following applies:
# of Lugandan pupils in the report = 4 # of Igbo pupils = 16 # of Yoruba pupils = 90
If you want further information on what underlines the data you clearly cannot process, my services are billable
Foot note: it is a shame that the unexposed among us always reduce important issues relating to attainment/achievement elsewhere to primordial biases.
new2020: I have been saying this for a while; infact dedicated my account to telling Igbos that they are not ordinary black people. They have no connection to Negro...African blacks, your ancestry can be traced to israel. Highly placed western governments are aware of this. Nnamdi Kanu even confirmed this.
Here is what the American government said during the Biafran war...exact quote
"Igbos are wandering Jews of West Africa - gifted, aggressive, westernized, and at best, envied and resented, but mostly despised by their neighbors in the Federation---" (a White House Memo on Biafra January 28, 1969 to President Nixon by Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger) (Source : U.S Foreign Relations Documents Volume 5 , 1969)
Dr. Thomas Sowell, renowned American philosopher in one of his books recognized four highly gifted races/ethnicities across the world: The Jews, Germans, Chinese and Igbos.
If only Igbos know who they are, some of them will go mad in anger. There has been a deliberate attempt to obfuscate their true identity and hold them down, they succeeded with former but not the latter, which has them wondering...there is a power behind them.
^^^Another poorly educated fellow, who fancies himself as member of a superior race. I blame the education system in Nigeria for such vacuous thinking.
4Play: To be fair to the OP, the Lugandans mean percentage over 3 years is lower than that of his Igbo "master race."
I suspect what this tells us, something we already know, is that Igbos are disproportionately driven to succeed. Hence, Igbos are overrepresented in drug trafficking and academic success.
Like OP, who saw fit to embellish the original report with the inclusion of the following remarks, you are either innumerate or deluded:
The superior Igbo achievement on GCSEs is not new and has been noted in studies that came before the recent media discovery of African performance. A 2007 report on “case study” model schools in Lambeth also included a rare disclosure of specified Igbo performance (recorded as Ibo in the table below) and it confirms that Igbos have been performing exceptionally well for a long time (5 + A*-C GCSEs); in fact, it is difficult to find a time when they ever performed below British whites.
coolitempa: Even if true....which it is not....the report did not mention ibo as dominant....OP is a liar or at best an illiterate....
Of course he is an incontrovertible liar. I actually conducted a similar study to the one published here, in a neigbouring LEA to Lambeth, several years ago. He misses the entire point of the report!
Results derived from a sample size of 411, covering a small number of schools in an LEA called Lambeth, is all one badly tutored NLer needs to run amok. Smh!
Of the 411 Black African students who took GCSE, 21% spoke English at home, 22% Yoruba, 13% Somali, 9% Twi‐Fante, 5% French, 4% Igbo, 4% Krio, 3% Tigrinya, 3% Lingala, 2% Arabic, 2% Ga, 2% Swahili, 1% Luganda, 1% Amharic, 1% Portuguese and 2% spoke other languages such as Shona,German, Fang, Manding, Runyakata, Temne and Zulu. Yoruba, Igbo and Twi‐Fante are spoken predominantly in West African countries including Nigeria and Ghana, whereas Lingala originates from Central Africa. Amharic, Tigrinya and Somali are spoken in East Africa, mainly Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia. This constrains the categorisation of the official data available at national level
Erm...shouldn't the real honour go to the one percenters, the Lungandans?
Legal Opinions on the Validity of The CCB charges against Saraki And CCT as a Superior Court of Reckoning By Akintunde Iseoluwa
For the following reasons the code of conduct Bureau has not committed any wrong in charging Abubakar Bukola Saraki the Nigerian senate president and neither is the code of conduct Tribunal an inferior court.
1. Saraki was not brought before the Code of Conduct Bureau, but the Code of Conduct Tribunal.The Code of Conduct Tribunal is by no means inferior to the Federal High Court in the constitutional organogram.
First, both courts are both created by the constitution. While Section 249 creates the Federal High Court, section 15 of Part 1 of the First Schedule gives birth to the CCT. They are both offsprings of the constitution and recognised by it.
The FHC is not superior to the CCT in our hierachy of courts as presently set up(aparo kan o ga ju kan lo).This is particularly so when the constitution makes appeal from the CCT lie directly to the Court of Appeal, side-stepping the Federal High Court. Viewed from another perspective, assuming for a minute, but without conceding for a second that the CCT is nothing but an inferior court; in all common law jurisdictions(at least that I am familiar with), the appropriate procedure to strip an inferior court of its jurisdiction is by way of certiorari – an application for judicial review, where a superior is asked to quash the proceedings of an inferior court.
Again, I do not concede that the CCT is an inferior court. To so submit will be an open to constitution qua judicial anarchy. It would mean that a FHC, sitting anywhere, can stop proceedings before an election Tribunal and summon its members! That is the destination of that argument. While an election Tribunal is an ad hoc court, the CCT is not. It’s Chairman is someone qualified to be a Judge of even the Federal High Court. He/She, alongside other members are even appointed by the President on the recommendation of the NJC.
2. On lis pendes, I am yet to see any authority that applies the doctrine to courts of record. Can a court of law be said to be interfering with the processes of another court? Of course. But that situation is christened abuse of court process, and not lis pendes. Starting from Ojukwu v Gov.of Lagos, leading to the decision in Olowoleeni, and crystallizing in Ezegbu v FATB, the doctrine applies to litigants and not courts. A party’s constitutional right to approach a court never be a violation of the doctrine of lis pendes. On abuse of court process, it is trite that if one suit is abusive of another, it is the latter in time that will be dismissed. Here, the latter is the one before Mohammed of the FHC. Even at that, I think the principle is of remote applicability here.
3. Finally, how can any court and/or any counsel submit, in good conscience, that the fact there is no AG means no action can be brought in the name of the AG. Haba! The Supreme Court laid this controversy to rest more than a decade ago in AG Federation v ANPP (2003) 18 NWLR (Pt. 851) 182, by holding that the office of the Attorney General is a body corporate with perpetual succession, and continues to function, irrespective of whether there is a sitting AG or not. Although I do not agree with GMB’s approach of “searching for anti corruption judges”, I think I now see his point. Except the judiciary is populated by judges who are deeply soaked and well versed in law and treat corruption like the Egyptian plague; lawyers who will eschew arguments that will favour their clients and destroy the judicial system; court clerks who will do their jobs, and not hide files because of a ridiculous ‘tip’, the war against corruption is a non-starter; dead on arrival.
Dhugal: Shifting the goal post now,are you?.The crux of the argument is about superior courts of record,not administration of criminal justice. Even at that,the CCT is not a criminal but civil court.It can't impose prison sentence.That law applies to superior courts of record of which CCT is not. Again,the FHC's order came down ever before the CCT sat,so it is not a stay on any ONGOING proceeding.Don't be smart by half. Btw,quoting Danladi Umar's mischievous statement of being a court of record as evidence is not what I expect of a student of the law I assume you to be.Rather it should be,what does the Constitution and relevant establishment Act say?
No, I am not a student of law. I am however aware that most respondents including yourself appear to be in the dark on the overarching reach of 'The Administration of Justice Act 2015'.
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Dhugal: The NIC,is now a superior court of record,recognized so by the 3rd amendment of the Constitution signed by the President March 2011.It is now included in Section 6 as subsection 5(cc). Before the amendment,all appeals from it lie to the Court of Appeal,same as the CCT and Court Martial,but they were not recognized as superior courts of record. Any other thing you want to know?
Before the amendment, there was ambiguity - yes. But this is not the same as stating that there was absolutely no basis for it to have been regarded as a superior court. My point is, as things stand, the 'Administration of Criminal Justice Act 2015' has cleared up any existing fog with respect to the actions taken by the CCT also.
In order to ensure speedy trial, the Act provides in Section 306 that application for stay of proceedings shall no longer be heard until judgment and cannot operate to stall continuation of trial. This is a revolutionary move that is unprecedented given the delays occasioned to the trial process by interlocutory applications to stay proceedings pending appeal on preliminary matters even when the substantive issues are yet to be tried on the merits. What the ACJA has done is to amplify the provisions of the constitution to ensure speedy dispensation of justice. This new law is very progressive, timely and in conformity with international best practices.
The Administration of Justice Act 2015 is the hottest law in the country right now. It is a 495-section law that repealed the Criminal Procedure Act and the Criminal Procedure Code as applicable in all federal courts and courts in the FCT. But the Act regulates more than just criminal procedure, it covers, in most part, the entire criminal justice process from arrest, investigation, trial, custodial matters and sentencing guidelines. It is about all things criminal, from the cradle to the grave. All the provisions of the Act are geared towards ensuring that the system of administration of criminal justice in Nigeria promotes efficient management of all criminal justice institutions, speedy dispensation of justice, and protection of the rights and interests of the suspect and the victim of crime. It will achieve these objectives by restoring the capacity of the courts and law enforcement agencies, subjecting custodial and other processes to transparent and internal scrutiny, providing for non-custodial alternatives such as community service, providing opportunity to dispense with formal trial in certain circumstances, and giving further expression to various constitutional guarantees on human rights. All regulatory, institutional and even constitutional impediments to achieving these goals were removed.For example, the Act provides in S.306 that application for stay of proceedings shall no longer be heard until judgment and cannot operate to stall continuation of trial. This section is behind a provision in the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution (currently awaiting presidential assent or parliamentary override of the President’s veto), to the effect that no interlocutory appeal shall operate as a stay of proceedings in the lower court. Then all law enforcement agencies and institutions such as the Police, Prison Service, Ministry of Justice, the Magistrates’ court etc that hitherto engage in unhealthy rivalry must work together and meet regularly.
Politics › Re: igbos are the most brilliant black african race...US academic report 2015 by OnReflection: 9:14am On Sep 21, 2015
