₦airaland Forum

sheriff777:
Mobinga shame on you non productive northerns how do you say you will kill Christains. You are an . Shame. Oil is in South South not in the north.

how many fools exist on and parade nairaland?

mobinga is not even muslim.he was being sarcastic which ofcourse was dirty of him.he is talking as if muslims did not vote for goodluck.well,i hope the people of the south-west can read the comment of mobinga.

bdidi:
In the North, most of these LG and especially their villages, you find out that they are not as populated as these results are been posted here on NL. So where are these figures coming from?

I served in the north and getting to some of their villages, you barely see pple.

I keep wondering o!!!!!!!! Except Goat and Cattles including Camels they vote too

go sleep!

your eyes dont have a microscope that can tell the number of people.

maybe next time around no need to hold census.the govt. should hire your eyes to count people even those in their rooms under shade.

aisha2:
hahhahahahhaa

[size=18pt]Ecuador expels US ambassador in WikiLeaks flap[/size]

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By GONZALO SOLANO, Associated Press Gonzalo Solano, Associated Press – 31 mins ago
GUAYAQUIL, Ecuador – Ecuador announced Tuesday the expulsion of the U.S. ambassador, apparently over a 2009 diplomatic cable divulged by WikiLeaks in which the envoy accuses Ecuador's newly retired police chief of corruption and recommends he be stripped of his U.S. visa.

Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino announced the expulsion of Ambassador Heather Hodges at a news conference.

He said Hodges had not adequately explained the presumptions she expressed in the cables that leftist President Rafael Correa was aware of the "supposed acts of corruption by members of the police leadership and more specifically the former commander of the institution, Jaime Hurtado Vaca."

In a separate statement issued by its Washington embassy, Ecuador stressed that expulsion was not directed against the Barack Obama administration.

"It is unfortunate that the published documents on WikiLeaks have made it impossible to continue collaborating with the current ambassador to Quito, but we hope to work with a new ambassador," the statement said.

In Washington, the State Department said in a statement that it considered the expulsion "unjustified, and we deeply regret that the Ecuadorean government took it. The Department will examine its options to respond to this Ecuadorean action."

Hodges was the third U.S. diplomat to be expelled by Correa since he took office in 2007. Correa is a close ally of Presidents Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and Evo Morales of Bolivia. The new expulsion will leave all three of those nations without U.S. ambassadors.

Bolivia expelled the U.S. ambassador in late 2008, accusing him of inciting the opposition, while Venezuela has been without a U.S. ambassador since July after objecting to the candidate named by Washington.

Hodges is the second U.S. ambassador to fall victim to WikiLeaks, which has released more than 6,300 State Department cables since November through international news media.

Last month, Carlos Pascual resigned as chief envoy to Mexico after disparaging comments he made in cables divulged by the cyberactivist group angered President Felipe Calderon.

Hodges was called to the Foreign Ministry by Patino on Monday afternoon and issued a diplomatic note complaining about the cable but only learned of her expulsion through the public announcement, said a U.S. official who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to divulge the information.

In the WikiLeaks cable, dated July 10, 2009 and published by the Madrid newspaper El Pais on Monday, Hodges recommends that Hurtado, police commander from April 2008 to June 2009, be stripped of his U.S. visa.

The cable says he used the position "to extort cash and property, misappropriate public funds, facilitate human trafficking, and obstruct the investigation and prosecution of corrupt colleagues."

Separately, Hodges comments in the cable that "corruption among Ecuadorean National Police officers is widespread and well-known" with corruption becoming "more pronounced at higher levels of power."

The cable says internal Ecuadorean police investigations had suggested Hurtado was engaged in "corrupt activities within the ENP since the early 1990s."

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Associated Press Writer Frank Bajak contributed to this report from Lima, Peru


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110405/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_ecuador_us_ambassador

you people think this is a good decision?

do you know that most developed to my knowledge if not all rely on nuclear power?

do you know that the west always feel threatened by the prospect of third world countries acquiring nuclear plants?

i would not be suprised if we end up understanding that the USA have pressured Nigeria to abandon its nuclear ambitions.dont forget that they wanted to do the same with Iran but Iran refused and did not bow to their pressure.

what is good for the goose is not good for the gander is america's motor when it comes to nuclear energy.without nuclear power,a country can never dream of being independent of power needs.you cannot even think of climbing the ladder.why have others not abandoned their projects?Nigeria is not on an earthquake spot.

Martian:
Why do you muslims get their panties in a bunch so easily? Americans have freedom of expression, so the guy had every right to burn the quran.
If muslims are so offended about it, all they need to do is grab a few copies of the guy's book of fairytales and burn them. Demonstrating and killing some Nepalese workers or anybody for that matter because of what one american did is just plain retarrded.
You cant keep claiming to be adherents of a peaceful religion if the threat of violence is inevitable whenever someone hurts your fragile feelings.
If allah is offended, then his invincible a$$ needs to come out from wherever he is and lodge a complaint.
Now, I'll go burn me a quran and maybe throw in a copy of the bible too and harry potter. They are all essentially the same fictional bs anyway.

I'd like to burn your mother's smelling bush, how about that for some "freedom of expression"?

would your "daddies" mind?

it seems everyone have a story to complaint about the police.

well as i know the police are there to enforce law and order.but in Lagos here,police would be passing by and witnessing two people fighting and exchanging punches,and they will just continue their move.they will not even stop to ask what is the matter.most times you see them driving rough escorting money from big comapnies and banks.their job is now being transformed from protecting the lives of people to exclusively protecting paper money.

most times when they are on check points especially at night,when they beg they do it in a way that sends a threatening message.sometimes they even drag on with their begging to the point you will feel like just disappearing with a magic spell if one could.sometimes when you give them money,they look twice at what you've given,as if you are paying back a debt.

of recent,you can also see them accompanying lastma to share the booty at the end of the day.
so many more incidents that one would rather forget.

one would really be confused what to term their actions.is it police brutality?irrationality?corrupt?stupidity?nonsensical?rude?careless?or all of them and many more tags?

the police dont have the mentality of "innocent until proven guilty".it is the other way round.i think anytime a police man shoots a civilian for no reason or some $tupid reason,that police man should be hanged/executed in a public square as a scapegoat for others to take heed and be very careful with what they are carrying.they think those guns they carry are toys they can use the way children use water guns.

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Based on the topics that have recently being brought up in the forum,i went to search to know who the shia are,i found an interesting article;i hope it will help to clear the air :

To know the Shi'a

The word Shi'a, to quote Ibn Manzur(1), means "those people who love what the Prophet's Progeny loves, and they are loyal to such Progeny". Hameedullah Khan(2) states "Shiat Ali means specifically that party which, after the death of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) attached itself to Hazrat Ali, considering him the successor of the Prophet (PBUH) both in temporal and religious matters".
1. Lisan al-'Arab, by Ibn Manzur, vol. 8, p189
2. Schools of Islamic Jurisprudence, by Hameedullah Khan p121

The term Shi'a in fact derives its actual origin from the Qur'an, in which Allah (swt) calls Prophet Ibrahim (as) a Shi'a of Prophet Nuh(as) (1). In another verse Allah (swt) informs us of a fight between two men, one was a Shi'a of Prophet Musa (as) and the other was an enemy of Musa(as) (2).
1. The Holy Qur'an 37:83
2. The Holy Qur'an 28:15

It is in praise of the Shi'a of Ali that Allah (swt) sent down the following revelation: "Those who believe and do righteous deeds are the best of the creatures. Their reward from their Lord shall be everlasting gardens, below which flow rivers, they will abide there forever. Well pleased is God with them and they are well pleased with Him.
The Holy Qur'an 98:7

Numerous recognised Sunni scholars have in their commentaries recorded that following the descent of this verse the Prophet (s) declared: "I swear by the one who controls my life that this man (Ali) and his Shi'a shall secure deliverance on the day of resurrection".
Tafsir Ibne Jarir, Volume 33 page 146 (Cairo edition) narrated from Hadhrath Muhammad bin Ali (as); Tafsir Durre Manthur by Jalaladeen Suyuti, Volume 6 page 379 -3 separate chains; Tafsir Fatha ul bayan Volume 10 page 333 (Egypt edition)

If the Prophet (s)'s said the best of creations are Hadhrath Ali (as) and his Shi'a, then in the same way that this verse is applicable until the end of the world, Ali (as)'s Shi'a will likewise exist to provide a practical commentary to it. The Ahl'ul Sunnah believe that 70,000 Muslims will enter paradise without answering any questions (1) and Anas bin Malik, narrates that the Prophet (s) said that the 70,000 were Ali and his Shi'a (2). There are no traditions, in which the Prophet (s) guaranteed paradise for any other companion and his followers. These hadith prove that the Shi'a were not a Sect founded by fictitious Abdullah bin Saba but were adherents to Ali (as) who existed during the lifetime of the Prophet (s).
1. Islam: The Basic Articles of Faith - According to the Beliefs of the Ahl al Sunna wa al Jama'a - a Modern English translation of Bahar-e-Shariat Part One (Unnamed author) page 67 - quoting a hadith to this effect
2. Manaqib Ali al Murtaza, page 184 by al Maghazli (An ancient Shafi scholar)

Unable to refute the hadith the tendency has been to provide an 'alternative' explanation. The highly respected Sunni scholar Al Muhaddith Shah 'Abd al-'Aziz Dehlavi in his discussion of hadith relating to Ali and his Shi'a writes:

"The title Shi'a was first given to those Muhajireen and Ansar who gave allegiance (bay'ah) to Ali (may Allah enlighten his face). They were his steadfast faithful followers during his (Ali's) caliphate. They remained close to him, they always fought his enemies, and kept on following Ali's commands and prohibitions. The true Shi'a are these who came in 37 Hijri"
(NB: 37 Hijri -the year Imam Ali (as) fought Mu'awiya at Sifeen).
Tuhfa Ithna 'Ashariyyah, (Gift to the Twelvers) (Farsi edition p 18, publishers Sohail Academy, Lahore, Pakistan)

Although we believe that the title Shi'a goes back before this date, as this book is a 'revered anti Shi'a masterpiece', we will gladly accept this definition. Dehlavi states the first Shi'a, were the Muhajirun and Ansar, in other words they were the Prophet (s)'s Sahaba who sided with Ali (as) against Mu'awiya.

Now let us break down that definition in to point form. The Shi'a were those who:



Pledged their allegiance to Ali (as)

Remained close to him

Followed his orders

Fought his enemies


Alhamdullillah that is exactly the same definition of the Shi'a today. All the above attributes of the Shi'a then, are still inherent in the Shi'a today. We reject claims that we have gone astray having failed to take our teachings of the Qur'an and Sunnah from the Sahaba. As Shi'a we follow Ali (as) and take the Sunnah from him in accordance with the dictates of the Prophet (s) who said to Ali (as) in the presence of the Sahaba:

"You are my brother and inheritor", when the Companions asked what previous Prophets had left as inheritance, he replied "The Book of God and his Sunnah the teachings of that Prophet".
Riyad al-Nadira, by Muhibbuddin al Tabari, Vol 3 p 123

Ali (as) inherited the Qur'an and Sunnah and his Shi'a have likewise taken their knowledge of the Qur'an and Sunnah from him. We are Shi'a because we see no other Hadi (guide) which will lead us to the right path.

Allah (swt) says about the Prophet (s): "Verily you are a Warner and for every nation there is a Guide" (1). Numerous Sunni authorities of Tafsir (2) in their commentary of this verse have recorded that the Prophet (s) said: "I am Warner and Ali is the guide, he (s) then turned to Ali and said 'Ali people will be guided through you'". Other Sunni scholars have also recorded this hadith (3).
1. The Holy Qur'an Surah Ra'd verse 7
2. Tafsir Durr al-Manthur by Suyuti Vol4 p 45; Tafsir al Kabir, by Fakhruddin Razi in the commentary of the verse; Tafsir Ruh al Ma'ani, by Allamah Alusi
3. Mustadrak, by al Hakim, Vol 3 hadith 129 & 130

We view Imam Ali as our guide, Hadhrath Abu Bakr does not come within this definition in his inaugural speech he indicated that he would be turning to others for guidance:

"Now then: O people, I have been put in charge of you, although I am not the best of you. Help me if I do well; rectify me if I do wrong"
Tarikh al-Tabari, English translation Volume 9 p 201

Compare these words to the challenge of Imam Ali (as) related by Sa'id ibn al-Musayyab who said:

"None of the Companions say, Ask me (about anything you like)! except for Ali".
History of the Khalifas who took the right way, by Suyuti, translated by Abdassamad Clarke, p178 (Taha Publishers)

Ali (as) also acted as source of guidance for the second Khalifa, to quote the Wahhabi scholar Nadwi "Umar was often exacerbated if Ali was not available to solve an entangled problem. He often used to say: 'Umar would have been ruined if Ali was not there', "
The life of Caliph Ali, by Abul Hasan Nadvi, page 202

When there exist clear hadith guaranteeing salvation for Ali (as)'s Shi'a on the Day of Judgement, why should we seek alternative groups to affiliate ourselves with? Our view is strengthened yet further when we read that Hadhrath Abu Bakr narrates that he heard the Prophet (s) say that: "No one will be able to cross the Sirat (Path) leading to Heaven on the Day of Judgement unless he gets the stamp of Ali".
Al Sawaiq al Muhriqa, by Ahmad Ibn Hajar al Makki, page 126 (A book written against the Shi'a)

How can we turn to others, when Allah (swt) says in His Glorious Book: "On the Day when some faces will be bright and some faces will be black, And as for those whose faces will have turned black, it will be said 'What did you disbelieve after believing, taste the chastisement for your disbelief'. And as for those whose faces are white, they shall be in the Mercy of God, they shall abide therein forever".
The Holy Qur'an 3:106-107

It is clear from this verse that the successful Party on the Day of Judgement will be those, whose faces are bright. Now apply this verse to the following hadith, taken from two recognised Sunni works: "Three things have been revealed to me about Ali: That he is the Sayyid al Muslimeen (Chief of Muslims), Imam-ul-Muttaqeen (Imam of the Pious), and wa Qa'id ul Ghurrul Muhajj'ileen (Leader of the bright) face people on Yaum al Qiyamah".
Al Mustadrak, by Imam Hakim, p 137 & 138
Riyad al Nadira, by Mohibbudin al Tabari, Vol 2, p 122

So Ali (as) will be the leader of the bright face people, the bright face people will follow him i.e. they will be his Shi'a and it is this group which will attain Paradise. The Prophet (s) said in a Sahih hadith that Muslims would be divided into 73 sects of which only one would attain paradise. It is for this sole reason that we connect ourselves with Ali (as). Our Sunni brothers ascribe to the view that "Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did not nominate his successor nor left any explicit an instruction on the question of selection or appointment of his successor".
An introduction to Islamic State and Government, by Muhammad Sharif Chaudhry, p 56, (Islamic Bk Publishers, Kuwait).

They believe that it is the duty of the public appoint an Imam and that it is so important that "the companions preferred it to attending the Prophet's funeral" (1). The Shi'a believe that it was incumbent upon the Prophet (s) to appoint a successor. Even the least enlightened leader dies with at least indicating his preferred choice of successor. There is always a deputy to the Premier in case the Premier dies or is killed. The primary motive here is of course to ensure that in the event of war that the nation is not left leaderless with no commander-in-chief, for even the smallest time interval. Did the Prophet not care, about what would happen to his followers after his death?
Sharh Fiqh Akbar, by Mulla Ali Qari, p 175 (publishers Muhammad Sa'eed and son, Qur'an Muhall, Karachi)

In the same way that the role of a GP is to identify the condition of his patients and potential risks to their health we can point to the fact that the Prophet (s) did just that. He told the companions not to become kaffirs by killing each other (1) and predicted that afflictions would fall on to their homes in the same way that rain drops fall (2) and that some would become apostates after him (3) with the majority perishing in the fire (4).
1. Sahih al Bukhari Arabic - English, Volume 9 hadith number 198 - 200
2. Sahih al Bukhari Arabic - English, Volume 9 hadith number 182
3. Sahih al Bukhari Arabic - English, Volume 8 hadith number 586
4. Sahih al Bukhari Arabic - English, Volume 8 hadith number 587

At the same time the Prophet (s) was fully aware of the threat imposed by the neighbouring Byzantine and Persian empires, what better time would there have been to attack the Muslims when their Prophet (s) had died. In the same way that a GP after identifying a condition prescribes medication for his patient, we believe that the Prophet (s) was fully aware of the risks facing the nascent Ummah and provided a remedy by fixing in to position an Imam (Leader) to guide the Muslims after him. This is clear from the hadith of our Prophet (s) recorded by the renowned Wahhabi scholar Shah Isma'il Shaheed (1): "If you make Ali your Khalifa, although I do not think you will, you will find him to be a Guide (Hadi), one who is Guided (Mahdi), and one who will take you to the Right Path (Siratul Mustaqim)" (2).
1. About Shah Isma'il, the editor of the English translation of Taqwiyatul Iman (Strengthening the faith) page 9 writes "The services which he has rendered for the reformation of Ummah (the mission of propagating Islam); especially after the previous works of Shaykhul Islam Imam Ibn Taymiyyah and Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab are absolutely unforgettable". In his book 'Muslim heroes of the world' the Sunni scholar Muhammad Atiqul Haque quotes Allamah Iqbal on page 117 as saying "India has so far produced one great 'alim and his name is Isma'il".
2. Mansab-e-Imamat, by Shah Isma'il Shaheed, p 46

We rely on an event that took following the completion of the Final Hajj when the Prophet (s) stopped at a place called Ghadhir Khumm, and addressed the companions "Do I have more authority over you than you have over yourselves? To which the people said 'Yes'. He then said Of whomsoever I am Mawla Ali is his Mawla" (1). There is no doubting the authenticity of this narration it is a Mutawatir tradition (2) narrated by 110 Companions, the difference is over the word 'Mawla'. Those who define Mawla as 'friend' and hence view Ghadhir Khumm as an event in which the Prophet (s) reaffirmed Ali (as) was his friend are Sunni Muslims. Those who define Mawla as Master and assert that Ali (as) was declared the Master / Imam over the Muslims are Shi'a Muslims.
1. Musnad, by Ahmad bin Hanbal Vol 3 p116 Sader Printing 1969
2. Mutawatir means it has numerous chains of narrators

It is the issue of Imamate (Leadership) which is the key difference between the two schools, we however are yet to find a better explanation of the position of an Imam than that offered by Shah Isma'il Shaheed:

"The Imam is the Prophet's successor, the Imam has the same relations with Allah as the Prophet had with Allah. The Imam is the leader, in the same way the Prophet had the right to lead the people, the Imam also has the same rights over the people. We read in Surah Azhab 'The Prophet is awla (authority) to the believers', and the Prophet will be a witness to this fact on the Day of Judgement. The Prophet has rights over the people, as does the Imam, both in this world and the next, which is why the Prophet said 'Don't I have more authority over the people than they have over themselves, to which the people replied 'Yes'. The Prophet then said 'Of whomsoever I am Mawla, Ali is his Mawla'. This is why Allah says in the Qur'an that on the Day of Judgement you will be called according to your Imam (3:17), and why when Allah says 'And stop they are to be questioned' (37:24), we will be asked about the Wilayat (The Mastership) of Ali on the Day of Judgement"
Mansab-e-Imamat, by Shah Isma'il Shaheed, p 71

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juman:
It's not proper to start a thread just to cause confussion here in our religion. It think the best is to make contributions and express your view on issues. Or form thread to educate us on our religion but not to divide us.
If you are trying to convert people to shai islam here, forget it you are just wasting your time. This is not a forum for that.
Open your eyes man, what we need is unity but not to be divided. What is the gain of shai-sunni problem in Iraq, Pakistan and others?

i think you guys should be fair enough over here.the only one who is causing confusion from my observation and is actually hijacking this thread is "sweetnecta".he is doing "i too know" and throwing attacks."sweetnecta" did not post with an intention of enquiring or holding a dialogue.the thread starter opened the thread to inform us about the other branch of islam.i can see that even when he gives replies,"sweetnecta" did not take them into consideration.


i think as they say "no knowledge is lost".we should sit back and lets hear from the horses' mouth.let those who belong to the shia branch of islam tell us what they believe and why.let us learn to listen for once.

lol,lastma and co. have got a new supply to market to the people.

i find it very difficult to understand why would someone take one way under normal circumstances.i once took one way in VI by mistake.i never knew it was one way.instead of the lastma officers to station themselves at the entrance of the road (to tell people to go back),they stationed themselves at the end of the road in a way that no one would notice them.after you've committed the offence they will follow you with their bike and try to exort money.they're happy the law is violated!violation=customer!!!

they are not protecting the law.they are marketing the law.its not suprising when "agberos" are dressed in uniforms!!!

in another incident,even some local govt. "militants" are learning how to market the law.somewhere in iju,they are stopping vehicles asking them to buy their local govt. sticker."if you buy the sticker,lastma and other road marketing officers will not impound your vehicle if it stops on the road"!!!lol!

this is like prostitution.they're prostituting with the law.when you pay/buy you can do anything you like.