₦airaland Forum

morpheus24:
We are not arguing about if it was done or not, we are asking that you put it in its proper context because context is everything when making arguments.

Because you are a junior boy in Africa and your Seniors have seen these things transform from so called economic isolationist measures to outright GENOCIDE!

If this is how you treat your junior brother? Then I would rather be your enemy any day.

morpheus24:
I doubt you have met any Nigerians outside of South Africa. I really highly doubt that

Doubt it enough I really do not care. A very close friend of mine's older sister in London is practically staying with a Nigerian guy and all my visits are swamped with the mostly Yoruba so called sophisticated lot. In China I buy food for r igbo good for nothing Nigerians. Who stay outside hotels and littereng the streets offering to be porters. In Brussels, US Japan I do not even mix with them see them at a distance. Yes, I have met Nigerians outside SA.

morpheus24:
IF you are to reference historical facts please do so with completeness and not excerpts that are obviously biased. You should also mention what happened to Nigerians in the 1970's under the Alien Compliance Order of 1969 in Ghana/.


This is the reason you need to re-educate yourselfs on African Affairs.

I really do not give a dam about the " we were retaliating" garbage. The fact remains it was done. Why then do you think sending migrants away from our country to deal with our own economic issues through lawful ways is that much of taboo?

Why again?

morpheus24:
This is what they said in 2008. I wouldn't bet my last dollar on it.

You can take the illegal foreigners away from the Apatheid minded black South African, but you can't take Apatheid out of the Black South African
SOlution .... RE_EDUCATE YOURSELVES...CHANGE YOUR SCHOOL CURRICULUM....... exchange cultural ideas with your foreign black African population.....TRAVEL MORE.......SIT UP AND and become true leaders in instead of thinking the political, economic, infrastructural and social legacies you inherited from APatheid are you greatest achievements.....
Here are a few stories from your leaders who are true pan Africanists.
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Yes, after 2008 our government never did anything and thought the problem will sort itself out but this time we mean business.

Btw, you like hoping on the same issue even if one has agreed with you it was wrong. We know who did what for us not the lf imposing scammers who came to get pay back for nothing. No amount of videos and trumped up help would remove that from our minds.


You seem very pained by our intention to send back immigrants who have no business being here. Bruh, i got news for you, we will send them back lawfully this time and there is nothing you can do about it. SADC has already promised to help to ensure this is done. So the will happen whether you like it or not. Like you sent foreigners in your country in the Ghana must go. Why can't we do the same without the violence by some criminals?

I would hope you take your advise by developing your country and bringing back all the expects from Nigeria scattered all over to build your country.

What is really you people 's problem about SA being developed? White people never lifted a brick, mined gold, barred roads or bring gold and silver coins to do so. They took everything from our land made us do the work on our lands so where are we suppose to run to to build a new country?

By the way, I have been everywhere in the world started travelling as a toddler. Have met Nigerians in Asia, US, UK and Europe and your attitude is still the same.

If so many people have a problem with you don't you think you are really the problem?


Why not take the same advise to your brothers? Your advise stinks to the heavens, i tell you.

morpheus24:
When a Nigerian wants to outsmart you in his own country, he does not use violent means. He simply systematically drives you out or over-powers you by share numbers and brain power.

Take note!

Well, we would never know as Ghana must go was cold, calculative, evil and as violent according to different sources. You even took the hard earned cash from the foreigners and you think Nigeria's are smarter? Can you be more cruel than taking the foreigners money and allowing them to take home $20 nothing else? Stealing even their food? Nigerians have a sickNess that they see themselves in good light while seeing others in a bad light. You people need help.

morpheus24:
Boycotts to shut down business are an act of civil disobedience. Looting and burning people to show your government you are serious is an act of wounded and violent minds.



The violent tendencies of the common South African on display. The simple civilized answer would be no, we are not paying you based on the fact that these are informal businesses that did not register with SAPS and therefore are outside of the sphere of government control.

Are you afraid of the Nigerians asking for compensation?

But of course your people have been bullied for such a long time so their responses are understandable



Of course you wont pull the plug. ITs the money, so don't expect migrants who are making money to just up and leave the country simply because they are making money right infront of your eyes. Not gonna happen.

If you choose your violent ways to solve your problems you will be visited with the same. This is not 1964 South Africa where your enemy was the Afrikaner government. Welcome to the real world

Yes you are right the violence was unspeakable hence I am glad that our government is now doing what it was suppose to have done long time ago.

Migrants will leave eventually because we will tighten our laws and make it difficult for them to stay. We have learnt the hard way, trust me.

Violence should never had been an option if our government was not sleeping and opened our country to be taken advantage of. Btw, only 30-+% of migrants have petty businesses. So they will need to register them the idle ones are going to have to justify their stay and the aboutr department is busy drawing laws that penalize businesses employing foreigners without work permit.So migrants making money in our country without following the rules are going to find themselves in the cold. You see there many ways to skin a cat.

Now calm your nerve, we will do everything to stop the reoccurance of such and watch things as they unfold.

morpheus24:
Again point me to the Zambian site, I pointed you a SA site with comments on Nigerians and African migrants in general.

Can you point me to the Zambian sites, you earlier referenced.


PS, if you want us out then we want your companies out as well. As was explained before. There was a Nigeria long before post APatheid 1994,there will still be one long after.

Ouboetie weee! Just type zambian forums then check for the topic.

Once again we never threatened to withdraw our companies, youre the ones who threatened to kick them out. We are not crazy to leave all the investment we made in your country without get every penny worth on it. But if you go through with your threats with we all know was just cheap talk, then we will do the necessary.

Have a good night!

morpheus24:
Spin the question around, If you do not care about what Nigerians think of you, Why are you here defending your country



Good! lobby your government to hurry up and act fast. This is the way to go about things or do you plan on killing more innocents to get this point across to the ANC. Please ask them to withdraw all Sa companies in Nigeria with immediate effect and go back home to find jobs for their unemployed. Lets see how fast your government acts on this one.





You know there is an old saying on the continent you probably aren't familiar with. It goes something like this. " Put a Ghanian, A South African, A Congolese, A Burkinabe and and a Nigerian on a deserted island. If the Nigerian man goes left, after a lot of mutter and grumbling his counterparts will eventually turn left as well knowing fully well the resilience and the ingenuity of the Nigerian, he is bound to find an escape route on the island or die trying.

Other African countries curse Nigerians when all is rosy, but when it gets dirty well.... the above says it all.



Small mindedness.....it runs rife in the black South African mind.



I am home, m.o.ro.n




*YAWN***,the usual diversionary tactic. What do salaries have to do with the problem of the influx of immigrants to SA and the inability of the government in SA to address underlining issues of Xenophobia.

Oh yeah I forgot, none of my business right?

You are the moronn hee calling people moronns. Why would we do anything? Its you that are threatening to do something about our investments in your country. Watch as we refuse to pay your scammers what they call compensation. Why would anyone come open a business without insurance when its a must to have an insurance for your business. So we must now pay them for doing something wrong? They were not forced or asked by our country to open businesses so as South African pay insurance every month to cover any losses at home or in business so should they.

Now, you must threaten fire and brimstone again and we're waiting to see if you can pull it off. Take our non payment as a dare. And pull the plug, you don't think we are dumb as to pull the plug on our businesses while still getting some cents? You do it chestbeaters!

And your saying is your west African self delusion that we do not care for. If you are home good then, help your country out you seem to have all the answers to SA issues.

Goodluck to ya!

#Saynotoxenophobia

morpheus24:
Please point me to a specific one. I can point you to comments made by South Africans regarding Xenophobia


just go to this site www.news24.com. The comments were so bad ahd hateful that in a thread titled "Nigerians seek compensation" the site admin had to shut it off.

Do you see that happening here on Nairaland
?

I don't really get you. What has SA site got to do with Zambia?

In that post as I said SA just want Nigeria out, because of your sick twisted mentality of milking every horrible situation to scam and defraud people.

morpheus24:
Nah its your sensitive natures that continue to dictate your reaction when criticized by others, especially the loud mouth Nigerian. It erks you when another person calls out your faults. Yet we are to sit and take insults from your media, your diplomats and likes who see other Africans in the light of "kwerekweres"

I hope the ties are severed as well. We do not want Euro-Africans to be the leaders of this continent and we will continue to make it known through out the continent.

Please take back your companies, withdraw your embassy, close down your borders and revert back to the isolationist stance of the Apatheid government. Nigeria was around before an independent South AFrica. Nigeria will be around long after.

If you don't care that much about the "Euro-africans" why are you here day in and day out foaming on both side of your mouth?

We won't take anything from Nigeria but we will do what is right for our country and our citizens. You reserve the right to kick our companies and all investments made by SA in your country out, we don't care really.

We were hoping for you to act but alas you're just a loud lot but just cowards at best. We were also waiting for a show down on the recall but you saw that you were the odd one out and shamelessly apologised.

Now, puleeeze don't phool yourselves about Africa's leadership. We are only persuing & strengthening our own economic and political growth. We could careless if Africa chooses a failed state like Nigeria to lead it as long they do not run down South when it fails.

But you know what? Like the pitiful embarrassing diplomatic outfit recall tantrums you threw no one will join you and we will only cut ties with Nigeria only. We will work hard to resolve issues with other African countries. We know you guys have no balls, you love groupies and you will find out that no one wants to join you and you will cry your past time song, why all of Africa hate us? .

Btw, SADC is stronger than ever before at the moment which is what is really needed to move Southern Africa to a one African sphere that could trade, travel and live anywhere. Did you check the resolution from the past SADC summit? You will really learn we dont care much about Nigeria as long as we can uplift, develop and live in peace with SADC we would have won.

Now Sir! Calm down and go home to build Nigeria, it needs you more. Do you know you are currently borrowing externally after exhausting domestic financiers just to pay salaries?

Please where can Nigeria lead anyone to? except to temptation.

morpheus24:
No!




I am leading by example. I have seen the aftermath of genocide before. I have been around a lot of refugees and displaced peoples so I speak from that position.



Point me to these forums. I would like to take a look for myself if you don't mind.

Ps. I do not speak for Zambians and so their responses compared to a roaring population of 160 million +10million diasporans would be quite disingenous in comparison.

Are you for real? Your population as tool of all things good or bad? Bruh, save it.

Just Google Zambia forums that's what i did as well and that's how i found Nairaland.

morpheus24:
Simple one word answer will suffice....."Tribalism"

If you are looking for more information, I would direct you to the tribalism forum where you are able to educate yourself.

In the meantime where are your own forums discussing xenophobia on the internet. WHere are your forums where you have discourse?

or do you prefer to sweep your problems under the rug so you can appear to the world as the "Rainbow" nation you obviously aren't.

At least discussing an issue on open forums actually disseminates information and exposes prejudices people have.

THis is a good thing in my opinion.

I think South Africans do not care about what Nigerians inparticular think anymore. No one will ever satisfy your sickness of wanting South Africa to fail. We all get that now.

We as a country and other countries are satisfied with all the steps taken and the continued debates in our tv, media, social organizations, religious organizations, our musicians have come together and released tons of records lamenting this act. All newspapers every single day tell good stories about brotherhood and a united Africa. We know it will not be enough but our government has send out ministers to the communities to listen and come up with solutions to change this by adjusting our
legislations and policies. Courts have been beefed up and time extended for prosecutions, Army for the first time in our history after apartheid walks our streets a rare and provocative scene in SA because of our history but we all think its necessary to quench this. However, Nigeria's want blood, they want us to slit our throats for tv to see that we are doing something? And to that we say f***ck Nigeria and to hell with everything you use to threaten us with.

Even SADC has come back to say they are satisfied with actions taken and will also share the blame **In Mugabe's own words.

So take your concern and sharve it where the sun don't shine because we now know its no concern but an attempt to kick us while we are down. Your diplomatic entourage recall was disgraced with not even one other country joining you and we called you bluff, only for you to turn back with your tails between your legs giving a half backed story about miscomunication.

To be honest, where most SAns are now is to hope for SA & Nigeria diplomatic ties to be severed completely so we will not bee taken hostage for every mistake we make.

morpheus24:
So we must solve all the problems in Nigeria first before we see evils committed in other countries.


Hmmmm?



This is true but how does calling this out help the analysis of a possible occurrence of genocide in South Africa?

Did Xenophobia not happen in South Africa for the second time?

this not a South African topic?

Are there not scores of topics on the Nigerian issues you enumerate being discussed on nairaland ?All you need to do this scan through the comments and you will see all the outrage that will satisfy your curiosity


Do you want us to turn a blind eye to your countrymen's actions?



African history lesson 101

Countries that have committed reported genocide in Africa are many, Rwanda being the most popular.

It is because of this that people like me need to continue to speak out when they see the warning signs in your country who just joined independent nations of Africa 20 years ago and think that what you are doing is anything new. We are leading by example

So you agree your concerns are misplaced? You are not leading by example when you are in a worse of situation. No one is making excuse for any actions but please mind your patronizing opinions.

Its amazing that countries like Zambia have taken the really big brother position even in this horrible time in SA's history not like Nigeria's who have milked this sickness for their own secret agendas by even using lies to attack the whole nation regarding this.

Go to any Zambian forum and listening the kind of discussions and advice given to SA to further avoid this. They have scolded us like true brothers but not condemned and call us names like Nigerians did. And still want to act as if they are concerned about us.

morpheus24:
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see there is an illegal immigration issue in South Africa. An imbizo with foreign nationals is window dressing.

We already know that the underlying reason for Xeno stems from the issue of redistribution of resources in SA, which continues to be a major issue that the government is finding difficult to handle.

Most illegals, asylum seekers and economic migrants are relegated to townships, adding to the number of individuals who are already economically disenfranchised. This is not rocket science and should take an imbizo to realize this. Form this you get an increase in criminal activity, illegal dealings and competition for the meager resources allocated to these areas. This also breeds resentment and thus you have XENOPHOBIA on your hands.

The issue really has nothing to do with the problem of the asylum seekers home country. You will forever have individuals who wish to flee their "cricumstances" in search of a better life. See the boat loads of migrants who risk certain death taking perilous journeys across the mediteranean.

The problem is focusing on reorientation, re-education and empowerment of the poor class in South Africa. When they are elevated they no longer see the "lesser" as competition and understand the resources within their borders can be controlled and manipulated by them.

If they cannot do this, they will forever blame the "other".


The United States is an excellent case study of this phenomena where you have close to 11 million immigrants yet no one realizes they are even there.

Bruh, that was not an explanation of why xeno happened or justification for the imbizo but a response to your assumption that it was a lie that Ibos spoke to the president. So save me your excellent trait of being the best analyst of all things South African and xenophobic.

[quote author=morpheus24 post=33513152]It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see there is an illegal immigration issue in South Africa. An imbizo with foreign nationals is window dressing.

We already know that the underlying reason for Xeno stems from the issue of redistribution of resources in SA, which continues to be a major issue that the government is finding difficult to handle.

Most illegals, asylum seekers and economic migrants are relegated to townships, adding to the number of individuals who are already economically disenfranchised. This is not rocket science and should take an imbizo to realize this. Form this you get an increase in criminal activity, illegal dealings and competition for the meager resources allocated to these areas. This also breeds resentment and thus you have XENOPHOBIA on your hands.

The issue really has nothing to do with the problem of the asylum seekers home country. You will forever have individuals who wish to flee their "cricumstances" in search of a better life. See the boat loads of migrants who risk certain death taking perilous journeys across the mediteranean.

The problem is focusing on reorientation, re-education and empowerment of the poor class in South Africa. When they are elevated they no longer see the "lesser" as competition and understand the resources within their borders can be controlled and manipulated by them.

If they cannot do this, they will forever blame the "other".


The United States is an excellent case study of this phenomena where you have close to 11 million immigrants yet no one realizes they are even there. [/
quote]

By the way dear Morpheus24, at least you seem to have given a diagnosis to our madness but left one important detail, what's your ( Nigeria's) excuse? What's causing your own madness as per your analysis you are the proper, sane and strong uncorrupted bred of blackness and Africans?

What's your excuse for the continued mayhem both political, economic and human rights abuses you seem to met on your own country men, citizens and fellow black men?

Please tell us oh mighty Morpheurs24, you see to best the guru in all matters South African.

morpheus24:
The truth hurts which is why a small feeble mind like yours would translate this to "garbage".

Again the self absorbed, self centered broken mind of the post Apatheid black South African is not difficult to comprehend. They use words like... "it is our business not yours"...."cry me a river"...."You must go" to mask their insecurities and the inability to take responsibility of their own short comings, solve their internal issues outside of picking on the "other". The more you do this the more you expose yourselfs to the world.


This sickness is an aftermath and residual effect of isolationist measures instituted by the Apatheid govt and which continue today in the minds of Black South Africans.

THey chant "VIva Africa"".. use phrases like "nkosi sike leli Africa" and even dare to affix the Suffix "Africa" in their national identity yet everyone outside their borders in the rest of the continent are strangers and an enemy to the state, legal and illegal I might add.

When all the immigrants are gone. YOur problem will not be solved. I can bet $1 million dollars on that. Why? because you are too S> TUP>Id to identify the root causes and prefer to hide your dirty laundry in house.

PS.. I can't cry me a river on the internet..... am smply using my data any computer and my fingers to type


Long live the true Africans,


XENOPHOBIA IS JUST A PRECURSOR TO GENOCIDE!!

Bruh, your concerns are valid but misplaced as even during apartheid less than 10th thousand people were killed. One would say different about Nigeria. Before you point a slit in someone else's eye you should take care of the log in yours.

Nigeria is the one experiencing genocide with scores of Nigerians of the Northern extraction are killed adapted daily for years while your government was folding its arms.

The Fulani cattle headers are killing hundreds every other month and you are showing no concern.

The ibos and other minorities are threaten succession and sabotage as we speak but you still find it your place to cry out future danger in a country that you do not even care for. Why?

Your most peaceful elections left hundreds dead and we see no outrage.

Nigeria is the only other country that experienced genocide of the ibos with millions massacred and children starved to death.

So excuse us if we do not take your concern for SA seriously when you are in the worst ever position.

Please lead by example if you want to be the soothsayer of what is good and right.

morpheus24:
SO they straight went up to Zuma and told him this right smack in his face. Some brave Igbos out there.

I am guessing his government is so stupid that their diplomats in SA cannot confirm outright if this is indeed a verifiable issue.


***SHAKING MY HEAD*****

Zuma had an imbizo with foreigner organization to find a solution to the Xeno problem. He even said he will not say some of the things the foreigner unions said about their countries so as to avoid further conflicts in their respective countries.

Its no being stupid but he will be engaging their respective countries about the accusations in a more diplomatic manner.

14:
Will they ever consider that? i doubt. Kenya has its refugee camps for Somali citizens. Do you think people are in SA running away from wars, noo man. 99% of all foreigners are economic migrant. They are here for better life. They come from countries where poverty is a daily thing. Future looks blink, then their only hope is to make it in SA alive. You heard many Zimbabweans saying they would rather die in SA than die of hunger in Zimbabwel

Yes dear, they are very much busy with it. The ANC Gwede Mantashe himself is pushing for it. He was on tv saying we are the only country that integrates refugees into communities without proper refugees processing regulations that include refugee camps.

We all know they are economic migrants but most are using asylum status to stay in the country even
Nigerians use asylum. So this would help by isolating asylum seekers till further confirmation are made about the real country status.

Its not only Zimbabweans Nigeria Ibos told Zuma they are hated and killed in Nigeria and would rather die in SA than go back.

Sunnybobo3:
The Oba's case has not been swept under the carpet. The Oba has been dragged to the ICC;

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/inciting-statement-icc-confirms-receipt-of-petition-against-oba-of-lagos/208067/

This is soo sweet! Nigerians exporting Xenophobia protests to the US, atleast its against each other this time, just shows Xenophobia is an African thing.

And the monarchs, presidents, firstlady que at the ICC will be the longest in years. I hope they call all of them on the same day: Buhari, Zuma, Patience Jonathan, Oba, Zulu King and the good doctor! Hahaaaa Hahaaaa, Africa re-colonization by ICC

samtol4:
Gbam u got it right ...say it plain Never never live where there are majority black South Africans...They will be jealous and feel inferior of your progress .....I don't blame them for their inferiority and myopic mindset because 80percent were brought up by grandmothers and 70percent don't know their fathers . I am still waiting for them to blame Nigerians for their HIV Epidemic .

Says you who has a free scholarship payed by the same grandmothers and myopic mindset people's tax. Talk about kakking on the hand that feeds you. Better fatherless children than 99%of murderers who use abortion as means of contraception. An average high school Nigeria girl has had -+7abortions. I didn't know people from this forum are such hate mongers.

There was no need for the sick insults when someone was giving an honest advise. I don't know why you don't just leave SA Then you blame people for disliking you lot

morpheus24:
Pleas see below for your response

PRE APATHEID... We are suffering because of Apatheid.... .Apatheid MUST GO!

POST 1994.... We are suffering because of White priviledge.....WHITES must redistribute wealth or they MUST GO

2008...We are suffering because of tenderpreneurs and ZUma and his Corrupt cronies... ZUMA MUST GO


Post 2008... We are suffering because BLACK AFRICAN FOREIGNERS are coming into our country and stealing our jobs... FOREIGNERS MUST GO!


Post 2014... We are suffering because of colonial statues... THE colonial statutues MUST GO!

Psot 2015.... We are suffering because.....****FILL IN THE BLANk***


If you cannot see a pattern of s.Tu.pi.dity here then you either didn't go to school.

PS why are you on Nairaland posting on subjects about immigrants??

You must be a really sad person. Have you ever cared to find out what the www stands for? Its a World Wide Web, you can't claim territory on the net mumu, I'm in my country using my phone, my data and my time there is no way in hell that I might be infringing in your space.

For the rest of the your copy & paste garbage you spewed up there, please save it for yourself. Its our business not yours until we start trooping into your country in thousands.


Again, at last our government will work hard to ensure that we bring order in our country. Now you can cry me a river buddy!

#SayNoToXenophobia

MzansiBeat:
"Lagos - Africa's richest economy is borrowing money to pay salaries as it struggles through a "difficult cash crunch" brought on by halved oil prices, Nigeria's finance minister revealed on Tuesday.

The news comes as Nigeria prepares to welcome a new government at the end of month and its naira currency remains in a slump, hovering between 180 and 220 to the US dollar. It was trading at 160 a few months ago.

Minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala tried to be upbeat in a speech after the legislature on Tuesday approved the 2015 budget thrice revised because of slashed oil prices that provide 80% of revenue for the government of Africa's biggest petroleum producer.

She said "revenue challenges" have prohibited the release of any funds for capital expenditure this year but that food prices and single-digit inflation remain quite stable. And she said the economy still is on course to grow 4.8% this year.

"We have front-loaded the borrowing program to manage the cash crunch," Okonjo-Iweala told legislators. "Out of the ?882bn budgetary provision for borrowing, the government has borrowed ?473bn to meet up with recurrent expenditure, including salaries and overheads."

That's bad news for the incoming government of President-elect Muhammadu Buhari, who takes over May 29 from incumbent Goodluck Jonathan.

Buhari acknowledges that constricted revenue and endemic corruption threaten his will to deliver on development and reconstruction of areas devastated by a nearly 6-year-old Islamic uprising in the northeast.

He says his fight against corruption should produce the money needed to bring change to a country where petroleum riches benefit a small clique while the majority of the 170 million people in Africa's most populous nation live hand to mouth.

Critics blame the financial crisis in part on the most expensive election ever held in Nigeria, though no one knows how much politicians from both sides spent trying to buy influence and bribe voters".

The giant of (WEST) Africa -

Kwaaaaa Kwaaaaa Kwaaaaa!!!! Ja neh! Mr Giant Big mouth see your life!

morpheus24:
When the foreigners leave, next it is service delivery riots,


I am guessing who will be next after taht?


A bunch of violent minded people always thirsty for blood.

Am very certain that you not responding to my post, coz i see no correlation to what you've just said.

Let me entertain ya thou! Why is what's next your
business? You seem to be cryin' more than the berieved

I Just wish all South African companies are chased out of Nigeria and just come back home.They can expand to Asia and the middle east like MTN. It'll save these 2 countries a lot of drama and they can just cut ties. Too much vexing and ignorance.

14:
They ignored the warnings for too long, i always knew there will be voilence very soon. The number of foreigners flocking to SA every day was increasing and it was starting to be visible especially in Gauteng, every 2nd person you meet was a foreigners, and locals were getting anxious by the day, more especial those who are poor. i have been warning about something bubbling under the surface with foreigners. Could have been worst, thanks god they moved quickly to stop it.

You cannot let people come freely in your country with papers and close a blind eye. Sooner or later, it will blow up. Lesson learned. The point is we cannot accomodate everyone, the country resources are stretched.

I just love it! Its going to get our government working at last. Creation of refugee camps is another big plus.


#No to Xenophobia!

omenka:
Nice collection.

Back then, I used to shed tears whenever I watched the movie Saraphina. Now I feel different.

Nigerians are funny die! Do you think South Africans need your pity or tears? They never even knew you existed let alone shedding tears. The tears were really for you and your family. And i think right now your country needs buckets as it stand right now. Cheap blackmail!

Really Nigerians should seriously consider stopping this nonsense, its really starting to piss ordinary peace loving South Africans off and causing havoc on the two countries diplomatic ties. I smell some sabotage from some Nigerian quarters to strain and destroy the two 2 countries diplomatic ties. Sad really


http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Nigerians-
want-xenophobia-compensation-20150503

The Nigerian federal government could be asking South Africa to pay more than R5 million in compensation to its nationals in the country following a spate of xenophobic attacks.

This has emerged even as a South African government official told City Press the diplomatic spat between the two countries had ended and they considered the matter closed.

But national president of the Nigerian Union SA (Nusa) Ike Anyene said the compensation matter would be raised at the next meeting of the SA-Nigeria Binational Commission, which is periodically convened by the deputy presidents of the two countries. The last meeting appeared to have been in 2012. It is unclear when the next meeting will be. “What our government wants to do is request from the South African government to compensate what the Nigerians lost.

Some of these shops that were looted were not insured and cannot claim from insurance,” Anyene said. As far as has been established, Nigerians were not among those who died or were seriously injured in the xenophobic attacks. But there seems to be a disagreement between Nigerians about the claimed amount.

Nusa, which is based in Johannesburg at the Nigerian Consulate, originally estimated the damage at R1.2 million, and later R4.6 million. Nigerian newspapers such as The Vanguard however, this week reported N84 million, or just more than R5 million, would be claimed.

The publisher of a local Nigerian community newspaper, Olaniyi Abodedele, who is based in Pretoria and is close to diplomats in the Nigerian high commission is, however, claiming the victims may have inflated their claims.

He accused Nusa of “unprofessionalism” and exploiting the xenophobia issue for “self-enrichment” while “not minding to cause a divide between two sister countries”.

He added that Nusa represented only about 10% of Nigerians in South Africa. Abodedele said he wanted to know how the figure presented to the Nigerian government for the estimated damages shot up to R4.6 million and whether outside assessors had been consulted.

He said he had done “an extensive fact-finding analysis” with the high commission to determine what the Nigerians lost, and the people in Jeppestown put the damage at “far below” R4.6 million.

Abodedele also questioned why claims that Nigerian shops were looted in Durban surfaced only recently. “We found out that some Nigerians were going to beg some of the Somalis whose shops were looted to allow them take photographs of their looted shops, so as to present the pictures as ‘evidence’ of their looted shops,” Abodedele said.

Anyene, however, hit back at Abodedele’s claims. He said the final figure was arrived at after all the information was collected. “One of the mechanic workshops was burnt down in Jeppestown, and it had eight cars and equipment. That particular one was R1 million alone,” he said. He claimed those contesting these claims did not do information gathering on the ground in the same way Nusa did and he said they could not come up with alternative figures.

Anyene also said Abodedele and others who were questioning Nusa’s claims were making claims because they were disgruntled about not being elected into the Nusa leadership.

Nigeria’s acting high commissioner, Martin Cobham, and the consul-general, Uche Ajulu-Okeke, are expected to return from Nigeria this week. The diplomatic spat was resolved soon after they met with authorities in Abuja, after which outgoing President Goodluck Jonathan and President Jacob Zuma had a telephonic conversation.

A government official said Jonathan had called President Zuma to “apologise” for the misunderstanding that Nigeria had recalled its ambassador when it was only for “consultations”.

South Africa’s department of international relations issued a sharply worded statement after the apparent recall last Saturday, but Minister in the Presidency Jeff Radebe early in the week distanced the interministerial task team on xenophobia from the statement.

[b]Some comments front South Africans:

Napie Cool -
Nonsense go home bastards
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Rodney Overes -
Does this now mean that we South Africans can Claim drug related deaths the Nigerians have CAUSED! Sure pay for the damage they have caused and then we can for all the Nigerians locked up and for there keep

Rodney Overes -
Please deport the NIGERIANS,. SAPS and ARMY must raids and then send all Nigerians they catch that are he strait back home at the cost of the Nigerian Governme THEM I'm not xenophobic but the ones here illegally a welcome.

Rodney Overes -
Since when does a Nigerian own a SHOP, IVE never se the corner selling DRUGS, only individuals part of a syn standing on the corners.

Vuyo Ntsinde -
The SARS should also investigate these nigerians for i compliance.

Narian Chengiah Naidoo -
No compensation, just send them packing.

Gary Guy -
Tell the corrupt drug dealing Nigerian Government to take a h would be perfectly happy if no Nigerian every came to SA and South African ever went to Nigeria. What a cheek of those arrogant thieves.

ThandoGqabaza -
This proves that we were correct to hate Nigerians. They are v scum only interested in self enrichment. They contribute nothi our beautiful country. The liberals moaning about Xenophobia go to hell , we are protecting our country.

Allen Gumbi -
Nigeria really doesn't want these xenophobic attacks to stop

Vuyi Vuyile -
go home what do u mean this is Africa, Africans are no bastards. u are the ones who should be going home

Hebe Mabo-
You cannot build our rainbow nation by adding all those stran colors from up Africa. Close the borders till our rainbow is com and stable.

Mark Powell -
Compensating clap on your drug selling head



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morpheus24:
Again spoken like a true illiterate without a passport who is stuck in his shack in his Bantustan.

Again the highest number of black migrant graduates are Nigerians even after you consider relative population size.

1. Approximate number of diasporans outside the country 10 million

2. Extrapolate Women and Children.... 5 million

3. Extrapolate % professionals, students, entrpreneurs you get about 4. 5 million

4. leaving about 500,000 miscreants approximately 1% of the male diasporan population


OHH my GOd, bad Nigerians... bad bad Nigerians.

Who cares really? The world countries are tired of picking
up your bill, while your leaders loot the aid given to your
country. They just want you out, hear? Now take all the loot that educated you and get back home to build your country. No one want you in their countries! **loudspeaker**

morpheus24:
Deport the loose DOGs back to Naija.

Why can't your police do their job?

Oops ,you can't even handle your own criminals.... Sorry I asked

Why are you passing Nigerian government responsibilities to the world. You Need to control the type of people you send out to the world or they will slaughtered like the Fulani Cattle headers do in in Naija. Four just went down in Indonesia. And you are here saying our government must use their own resources to do what your own government neglects to do? Ain't you all just a bunch of parasitic beings? Mind you, the rules are changing, watch this space.

Fulaman198:
You see, all of these things that you have mentioned don't actually happen because there is no visual proof. Herdsmen can not be killers because we don't carry guns. But oh my GOSH i'm sure the Sauru (sticks) we carry to fend off danger sure is a threat to the likes of other Nigerians (sarcasm).

With that said, the new president of Nigeria is a Fulani man, so if Nigerians were that much against Fulani people, why is the president Buhari a Fulani? Again, logic seems to be something that the South African populace lacks.

Also, I'm trying to hold back my pity I have for South Africans, but why are you South Africans joining a Nigerian forum when we have nothing in common culturally, physically (except Skin colour but definitely not anything else physically) and linguistically. You lot already know that Nigerians treat other Africans well, that's why you guys have joined this site. You will never see me touch a South African forum (if one exists) with my Sauru (Fulani herding stick). You can keep South Africa
thousands of kilometres away from me.

oohlalah! Now you are really trying your best to look good Fulani cattle header, ain't you. If you believe what you have said then the pity is all yours.

Most of us are not here because of anything superior or interesting about Nigerians we just wanted to get info about the millions of migrants reaching our shores daily. We also know that Fulani's interests are only the view of a cows behind hence I know not even one except you right now. No interest whatsoever in your type.

Unfortunately for you and me we would not be chatting if yout had a Fulani Cattle Rearing country but you share the country Nigeria with others who against all the attacks you found so hateful are dead set on staying in our country than share Nigeria with you lot, as the confided to our president in their meeting last week Friday. Most seek asylum now that your Fulani Bahari is incharge. They say you killed them like cattle in 2011 when the same Buhari lost elections. They seem to want to die here than go
back to your country. And you are here singing "Goombaya" ?

morpheus24:
How would you know anything about the above issues if they are not presented on platforms like this to be freely discussed in the open but for South Africans you believe by not airing your dirty Laundry and decievig people about your welcoming nature so you can prop up your Tourism industry, we will not expose your deep dirty secrets
y
if you can't take the insults. Change the channel and vamus from here.

Who cares where i get the info? Is it true or not is what matters? SA news are broadcasted all over the world dear. Notin to hide, the good the bad and the ugly all out there for the world to see.

By the way check front page another batch of Nigerians being kicked out of Georgia, they are called terrorist and threats to that country. Seemingly no one wants you in their countries