₦airaland Forum

SPOPOVICH:
u didnt have to mention SA, many countries in SSA are more devoped than naija.

and why are people bashing congo, did you see the All Africa games, i dont think nigeria is more developed than Congo.

DRC would probably be far ahead of naija if it was colonized by the british instead of Leopolds Belgium.

I am a South African and do not give a rat's azz about what you say about SA, as the difference btwn our country and yours needs no discussions as it is clear as night and day.

But what bothers me is this?

Please ask again? Why do people who have never been to DRC /Congo equate Congo to backwardness?

PassingShot:
What's your point here? It is the pastoral normads that have ensure self sufficiency for the country in terms of meat production since the birth of Nigeria. I am not aware about us depending on imported meat to meet our meat demands.


You're free to establish piggery anywhere you deem fit. The biggest piggery in Nigeria used to be in the North. What's your point here?


You're a big joke right? from time immemorial, the Nigerian cattle farmers have been known to move about with their cattle, grazing and destroying farmlands in the process. Why did all past govts fail to force them to "acquire land from existing land systems"?


Some of you are too naïve to understand that we already have the challenge with us and solutions must be proffered. Instead of being emotional about it and spewing trash, why not we suggest workable alternatives to the govt's plan rather than maintaining the hard posture that bring continued fights and destructions?

If you do not support the govt plan, please tell us the realistic alternative way for govt to take these herdsmen out of the street and the farms?
The answer should not be "they must buy lands from their operation locations, bla bla bla" without telling us how to ensure it happens.

Please tell that guy that the South African farmers with great expanse of land he is referring to are mostly whites who killed and stole those lands. They never bought them so using the South African farmers as an example is totally silly!

igbodefender:
History shall be kind to you for standing up for what is right. Your insicive points have given people information they can use to debunk lies and deceptions. #replacegrazingwithranchesnotreserves

Aaaargh man! What happened to the Igbos' favourite line "One Nigeria" when it suits you and when you have want to bully locals in their own lands? You people are irritating by complaining too much. When you have real issues to complain about no one will take you serious.
why don't you look at this as, igbos are free to travel do business everywhere in Nigeria and in the world so do the Fulani have the rights to let their cattle graze everywhere in Nigeria.

They don't consume their meat on their own, do they? you do as well, so you benefit from the bread basket.

Btw, i am not even Nigerian!

ActivateKruger:
The dumb ANC has;

- Built hundreds of thousands of houses for the poor who would otherwise live in shacks and mud houses
- They have build more schools and clinics than any other government in Africa
- Building modern infrastructure
- Build sporting facilitates
- Hosted the Rugby World Cup
- Hosted the Cricket World Cup
- Hosted the Soccer World Cup
- Provided free tertiary education to those who couldn't afford
- Provided grants for disabled and orphans who wouldn't have means to feed themselves

[size=14pt]What has your government done for Nigerians? NOTHING [/size]

Well said. Now leave the dumbo's with their stealing governments who chows their existance while they kill, deal in drugs, rituals and scams to survive and call it hardwork. Nigerians will always be the dumb scums of the earth!

Chelseafan99:
OPINION.

There are two kinds of pride, both good and bad. 'Good pride' represents our dignity and self respect. 'Bad pride'is the deadly sin of superiority that reeks of conceit and arrogance-a trait widely associated with South Africa who sees itself as in a league of its on relative to the rest of the continent.

Every nation goes through a tumultuous period at one time or another. For the United States it was a battle against racial inequality, for South Africa it was the era of Apartheid, for Nigeria now it is radical Islamic Insurgency. If history is anything to go buy these challenges are usually surmounted. Today The United States has gone a long way from the days of segregation. In South Africa the Apartheid regime has been relegated into the history books. In Nigeria the radical jihadi group Boko Haram is seeing its last days.

We must be careful however never to play on the sensitivity of those experiences difficulties. In the apartheid era Africans could not fold its arms and watch idle as the native black population were oppressed and reduced to lower class citizens in their own country. In the spirit of brotherliness Africans united and for years provided assistance to the South African struggle for self determination and the end of racial discrimination. The fall of apartheid illustrated the fact that in unity and strength, Africa's problems are surmountable. All of Africa rejoiced in ecstatic joy when black South Africa became free. The end of apartheid and the release of Mandela was not just a South African victory, it was an African victory .

Today Nigeria is facing a challenge like it has never seen in its history. Being the most developed and powerful nation state in West Africa Nigeria shouldered the weight of the sub region. While Eastern and Southern regions of Africa experienced decades of continuous conflict Nigeria's military was the force for peace and stability in West Africa, often times placing the priorities of neighboring states first before the country, often to the chagrin and condemnation of its citizens. Nigeria was a military dictatorship when in the wake of a military coup in S-leone, sent its army to to restore restore the toppled democratically elected President. In Liberia the fear of the Nigerian armed forces was what stood in the way between Liberia's power hungry military commanders and its democracy. In a paradox democracy in West Africa was dependent on a military dictatorship. Nigeria spent $10 billion in peace keeping and humanitarian operations in these countries but never once did a Nigerian government/military official or its citizens criticized, condemned or make a mockery of the people of those countries.

In Nigeria's struggle against Islamic Jihadists the camaraderie that once characterized the African Union is no where to be found, instead some African countries view Nigeria's struggle as a target of opportunity, a free for all period. Boko Haram for years was supplied weapons by the Chadian dictator Idris Derby. In Cameroon the government on numerous occasions have been caught paying ransoms to the tune of millions of dollars to Boko Haram. In South Africa the Zuma administration could not resists the opportunity to embarrass the Nigerian government and cripple its war efforts when in 2014 it seized $15 million meant for the procurement of arms for the Nigerian military reeling under the effect of America's ban on selling weapons to Nigeria, from two Nigerians and an Israeli who arrived the country desperate for arms as Boko Haram ravaged North East Nigeria.

In a show of bravado and triumph the South African government declared it will not return the ceased money to Nigeria unless it follows due process-which at best will take months. This is the sorry state of African Unity today.

Just recently Eeben Barlow, a South African Private Military Contractor who enjoys a special relationship with Nigeria, praised and regarded as a hero by Nigerian people (look up beegeagle.) and paid tens of millions of dollars could as well not resist the opportunity to paint Nigeria in an awfully negative light. In his words (posted on his blog) :

STTEP’s men made a very positive difference in Nigeria until we were forced to leave but we also lost 3 of our men in Nigeria; we had adrenalin rushes, expectations, waiting, laughter, highs and lows, cheap airlines, rundown airports, meetings, proposals, headshaking, briefings, presentations, bad food, terrible water, long hours, little sleep and some blood, sweat and tears.
Many in South Africa are made to believe that South African white mercenary helped turn the tide against the Islamist militant group Boko Haram, allowing Nigeria to hold a relatively peaceful election, conveniently ignoring the fact that Nigeria stood alone in this fight for 5 years, even the Obama administration refused to recognize Boko Haram a terrorist organisation until he was forced to do so media attention on the 200 kidnapped Nigerian school girls. It is an insult to the Nigerian people to suggest a group of fifty something year old men made the difference in Nigeria's war against Boko Haram. Perhaps most importantly in epitomises the narrative people have of South Africa(black or white) being an arrogant disrespectful nation with a false sense of importance.

Nigeria, a country with hitherto no experience in Counter Insurgency operations, hit by America's weapons ban and French clandestine subversive operations should be lauded for its remarkable achievement over the years. There are 65 of the worlds most powerful counties in Syria today, they are no closer to defeating ISIS or matching Nigeria's success in defeating home grown terrorism.

for more
http://ourtimeiscome.com/2016/02/16/eeben-barlows-
negative-remark-on-nigeria/

Rubbish! Cry us an ocean, bunch of narcisistic cry babies!

Henry240:
Infrastructure, we are close. HDI, the south of Nigeria is ahead of South-Africa, we only lag behind because of the Northern part of Nigeria.

Henry! Do you people ever say the truth? Who told you honesty will kill you?

Henry240:
For you baby...... I'll buy the entire Banana Island

The only highbrow place worth mentioning in the entire Nigeria, which lacks sewage, drainage and good road still? Continue!

Henry240:
Fixed!

dream on dreamers!

DarkTroll:
[s]You deserve a big knock on your head!!!

The average south African is a blek subjugated animal who is a blame-magnet.

The average south African will not take responsibility for his action or work to earn a living. He screams for his land and wealth and has a sickening sense of entitlement.

The average south African will rapé your 87 year old great grand mother.

The average south African is the reason why over 1 million of your ilks fled to Europe and never came back.

The average south African is incompetent having spent all his history out of civility.


Call all your friends and tell them this average savages now rule you today and has made you an apologist of mediocrity and obscurity.

You're a waste of space and sperm.

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We understand your pain, it should really suck being born in a sh***thole like Nigeria. So you mis direct your anger towards those who are better than you instead of holding your government responsible.

I have never read such emotional BS ridden with lies and sense of inferiority complex written by a so called adult. Continue your lies, it will not change jack sh***t. Nigeria will remain a sh**thole and third world country.

Modsenemy:
Mugabe is true African leader and the only president worth to be called an activist. Mandela jst got lucky

You're talking rubbish! Mandela was never a father of a continent but a father of a nation. He was fighting for his people not all of ya. You people are such suckers, where are your activists fighting for Africa as the so called giant of Africa? Never mention Mandela in your foolishness!

KINGOFJAPAN:
I'll rather be a druglord than a junkie

Gbam! Drug- gerians who are killed by swallowing their own drugs and stage a pretend protest accusing others of killing them. Desperation beyond imagination

Gaskia:
Concentrate on radically expanding refining capacity and export finished products to most African countries but we cannot ignore South Africa, just like they cant ignore us, we both need to energize improve the lots of both nations.
We need to expand economic and political collaboration frontiers instead of shrinking the small one we have.
The fine on MTN may be logically ok but some underlying circumstances and long term consequences make it unreasonable.
We can chose to curtail loss of value by capital flight through the MTN vehicle by strengthening Globacom and encouraging Nigerians to invest in telecom. We can also mandate that companies with a certain level of balance sheet must enlist in the NSE so that Nigerians can retain some of the fleeing values.

What you guys do not understand is, South Africa doesn't talk much but act a lot.

1. We had always bought Iran crude oil until 2013 when we forced to stop because of sanctions.

2. We have a working deal on crude with Iran before and we will still have a greater deal after sanctions.

3. This has nothing to with MTN or Nigeria but what is best for SA.

4. The Nigerian Government still has an option to negotiate and make concessions with SA if they want to and not throw tantrums and read things that are not there by retaliation

5. Iran is a gateway of SA companies to the middle east and so far they have been loyal and great friends than Nigeria.

6. Nigeria is a risky investment destination for SA companies and now SA is quietly cultivating new grounds to plant their companies that are less temperamental than Nigeria.

7. Keep watching by the end of the year all the SA companies that are going to expand aggressively to the middle east as an alternative to Nigeria and then majorly stock Nigerian products awaiting another tantrum from Nigerian Government and its people then just withdraw.

8. Lastly, boycotting SA companies will only come at a huge price for Nigerians. Employment, products sourced in Nigeria, Rentals of Malls and there is not even one network that can handle MTN client lines without causing a network standstill.

Dot take my word for it try it.

tsdarkside:
you are nothing...bunch of post-apartheid freaks....thats what you are......

imagine......white-people holding you captive till the early 90s.....dont you people have shame a tall sef??.....

I do not talk to door knobs. Swerve!

Banter1:
like seriously? Who cares if they don't by our oil anymore? You sound as if we are gonna die or starve to death if they don't buy our oil. We don't care about SA. Mtn should pay the fine asap.

Infact I'm disappointed with the apartheid regime in SA then, they should have gathered them all in a concentration camp and Gas them all. what nonsense.

Wow! Its nice to know our existance is slowly killing you! What you wish on others usually comes back to you multifolds. We are your worst nightmare!

Nigerians bunch of emotional sisies! You need to be well informed first before throwing tantrums all over the show.

South Africa has always majorly bought and used the Iranian oil and Nigerian oil. Until SA was forced to stop buying crude from Iran because of the sanctions.

SA crude oil deal with Iran is an excellent deal to both countries that is not majorly influenced by the OPEC monster. SA is only going back to our working deal with Iran and we will still buy some crude oil from Nigeria but not at the levels we had to buy over the sanctions period.

247notire:
Lol. If uve got the balls put up ur pic here biatch. Attention seeker I got some work to do... Meanwhile ur ban is on the way...

Ban for what you fagg? You go around insulting people for no reason and when they turn the tables on you, you run to report? Never ever try you madness on me again. Looser!

kcplay:
Lol...it makes people not to be objective.

Lol! Unbelievable at worst!

247notire:
Mr Seun and Lalasticlala this is a very misleading thread. The court did not in any way bar mtn from moving funds but only said both parties shud maintain status quote until the case which mtn sued FG is heard. Stop misleading people on this site. try to vet news before putting it on fp.

That's what hate, envy and jealousy does! It makes people blind to facts.

Reptyle:
Seems to me the Nation Newspaper has reported this piece of news wrongly.

If the court said both parties should maintain Status Quo Ante Bellum, it means that the court declined the FG's plea to impose a freeze on MTN's funds.

Hahahaha! I am laughing so hard at the intelligent Nigerians that cannot comprehend a simple sentence. They are celebrating MTN's victory stupidly thinking its their FG's victory. To think that even a nation wide news paper interpreted this wrongly, is a major embarrassment. Coupled with the fact that Majority of Nairalanders are dumb as door knobs says a ton about Nigeria. # FACT!

OTgenasis:
Kill yourself over Nigerians then. You can even tell all your family members to sign up on nairaland. Oponu.

You are a dumb a$$, get lost i don't talk to door knobs!

emmanuelgon:
Almost subscribed to visafone, but MTN buying it I'll never do it, already pot my MTN line to ETISALAT by saying NO to south African firms, I HATE THEM with PASSION!!!

Your hate is useless, Nigeria cannot take it to the bank. If your hate was anything to be bothered about it should have saved Visafone by buying it and preserving the jobs.

Just generate more hate until it becomes dollars or kill you

ojnnaco:
High rate of Unemployment
High rate of Corruption
High rate of Poverty
Yet, MTN is still owing the Nigerian Govt and boldly acquiring Companies and still sacking its citizens thereby creating massive unemployment in the same nation its owing ...
Where is FG??

Now you are crying about 2000 non MTN employees fired by their employer Visafone as the owner jumps a sinking ship? Were you not the same people calling for MTN to leave? You can't eat your cake and have it. Good move by MTN, colonizing Nigeria from 1994!


Now, lets see what Buhari's govt will do regarding the fine? Any further loss of jobs on his watch will dent his presidency big time. Let the games, continue.

OTgenasis:
You people hate Nigerians sooo much. I still don't know what you're all doing on nairaland. Anytime a news about Nigeria pops up, you all will show yourselves. My advise is..... You all should deactivate your nairaland accounts and sign up with other forums in your country. Simple.

Oh! Shut up!

xtroppy:
Are you blind? Can't you see your Yoruba brother, azzima, making silly comment about Igbos?

If you're too rattled on the valid points made on your 'special' Yorubas, go and meet Sanusi Lamido Sanusi that published that paper some years ago without a befitting rejoinder from your elites.

I am an outsider just interested in the topic. And in all I read no one claimed to be a Yoruba on this thread. Your outburst attached to a long epistle about absent people on the thread invoked my interest hence my comment.

You seem to more upset about the statement by Sanusi than them though?

xtroppy:
Read the message Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, the current Emir of Kano, has for noisy, loud-mouthed liars and history distortionists like you:
YORUBAS ARE THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA - By Sanusi Lamido 
"In sum, the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned by Balarabe Musa, has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests and reciprocating goodwill from other sections of the country by treating other groups with respect. Practically every crisis in Nigeria since independence has its roots in this attitude. 
   * The Yoruba elite and area-boy politics;
    * Igbo marginalisation and the responsible limits of retribution; and
    * The Yoruba Factor and "Area-boy" Politics.
My views on the Yoruba political leadership have been thoroughly articulated in some of my writings, prime among which was " Afenifere: Syllabus of Errors" published by This Day (The Sunday Newspaper) on Sept 27, 1998. There was also an earlier publication in the weekly Trust entitled " The Igbo, the Yoruba and History" (Aug. 21, 1998)...
Being Excerpts from A Paper Presented At The “National Conference On The 1999 Constitution” Jointly Organised By The Network For Justice And The Vision Trust Foundation, At The Arewa House, Kaduna From 11th –12th September, 1999.
http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/yorubas-are-the-problem-with-nigeria-by-sanusi-lamido-sanusi-elombah-com.111348/

Why bring Yorubas in this? You seem to be obsessed with these people. I need to get to know these Yorubas there must be something special about them, truly?

feaworaoja007:
you"re a fool!

You're a bigger fool!