₦airaland Forum

Nairalandmonika:
What Gilead is making is not a vaccine. They are modifying an antiviral drugs they made for Ebola to fight coronavirus. It's called remdesivir.

You are right, I got "drug" and "vaccine" mixed up.

baralatie:
[b]Gilead has issues [/b]and should not be considered.[b]Pfizer has not come out it only signified its developing vaccine [/b]and has the same timeline as Johnson and Johnson (2021)

I used the phrase "making attempts" which means they are in the process, an ongoing effort, not that a certified vaccine is ready for the market. All entities mentioned are already or in the process of conducting human trials, which of course is one of the critical stages in getting a vaccine ready for the market.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/international/coronavirus-outbreak-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-cleared-for-human-tests-120042300041_1.html
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https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/22/world/europe/22reuters-health-coronavirus-vaccine-biontech.html

Lest I forget, Moderna commenced human trial in March 2020, and I did not even mention them in my initial comment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/health/coronavirus-vaccine.amp.html

Aside this, if you don't mind, can you educate me on the issues Gilead is facing?

baralatie:
you are minding Johnson and Johnson.they said theirs will be next year 2021.I was like ehn!
China I don't understand but since they instructed their scientists and medics not to publish research on covid 19 without approval.the motivation in China got lost

Joshson & Johnson is not the only company making attempts to develop a vaccine. Pfizer in conjunction with BioNTech (a German company) and Gilead sciences (which so far have had successful trial results) are leading the pack.

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-intl-04-17-20/h_a514206d2543ecb2216db4a512ddfc1b

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My attention was drawn to the fact that Gilead was not developing a vaccine but an experimental drug as treatment against coronavirus, I mixed the two up.

The other is that Gilead's experimental drug trial has failed.

Aside these corrections, Moderna, Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine trials are still ongoing

jasent2020:
whats your point exactly? You ended up saying nothing about the point the guy raised as regards the invitation of chiness doctors.

I think you should have taken your time to see the part of his post I highlighted, that would have given you a glimpse on why I mentioned him.

Mobi47:
These Chinese doctors wants to deal with us, the way they are mutating and mixing up covid 19 with other disease especially in the USA. Nigeria's Govt biggest mistake is the invitation of Chinese doctors into Nigeria. That's our biggest mistake, don't ever trust the Chinese people. Every countries around the world is against China presently but our foolish govt with no direction, invited them. Our doctors were in charge of the situation prior to the arrival of the Chinese guys but now, our doctors don't even know what they are facing. This govt no get sense at all, see how Good luck Jonathan's govt dealt with Ebola in just 2-4 weeks.

Many Nigerian doctors have come out to say they have a cure, but our stupid govt has been ignoring this doctors claims, instead of working with them. Was this not how the GEJ govt allied with Nigerian doctors and came up with a cure for Ebola even when WHO and The US said we must not use the cure with discovered... but the GEJ govt used it anyways and cured everyone.

This stupid govt, instead of allying with doctors, make research and discover our own cure (we have the herbs and everything we need for a cure) they are busy following the suggested cure from the Chinese so called doctors who came with ulterior motives and also waiting for recommendations and vaccine from the so called WHO which has strictly been criticized for not revealing vital information on how to manage covid 19.

Now the virus is killing people anyhow in Nigeria and we now have over 900 cases. This govt is too weak and lacks direction....na only God go help us.

Chai, Nairalanders! Some of you folks won't stop cracking us up.

Bro, I'm not against your anti-government rant, you reserve the right to such, and I would do the same if there is a need for me to. But you see, when raising issues, always state the fact, I mean the unarguable fact. Not all patients were cured of Ebola in Nigeria. And no cure was found for Ebola.

You may need to click on the links below for more details.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-did-nigeria-quash-its-ebola-outbreak-so-quickly/

https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/statements/2014/nigeria-ends-ebola/en/

After all these being said, stop spreading falsehood on social media. It doesn't do us any good.

mrvitalis:
How can north east development commission receive 160bn. . This is outrageous and completely insensitive ....

Infact all southerners in APC are fools
All southern leaders have failed completely

Read the news again. Don't just jump to conclusion after reading the first few lines of a news report.

DonFreshmoney:
Wait first, just hold on. Are they telling me that NEDC receives more money than oil producing states. I don't understand the PASSAGE

Read again, gently this time.

Seun:
I remember predicting that the reign of the Coronavirus would come to an end when people started wearing face masks. It is gradually coming to pass. The reason the entire world is in this mess is that the Asians, who produce most face-masks and other personal protection equipment, blocked their manufacturers from exporting them to the rest of the world because they knew that they would be needed to protect their people.

Instead of the West to respond by mobilizing their manufacturers to produce face-masks massively, so that they would be able to protect their people, they started a deceptive campaign to discourage people from using them. The campaign was so effective that people who wore face-masks were mocked and shamed by those who had been brainwashed. People who had face-masks were pressured into giving them away.

Now they grudgingly accept that face-masks are helpful but instead of producing adequate quantities of the quality face-masks that have been proven to be effective - the kind of masks that most Asians are wearing - they are asking people to use less effective home-made masks.

Is the West also responsible for WHO's initial declaration that the use of face mask was ineffective, and that washing the hands and keeping the proper hygiene is the way to go?

The initial campaign was to stop people from hoarding N-95 masks used primarily by health officials in the West. These masks are very important for health care officials. Mind you, there are lots of countries in the so called West with no or partial lockdown, and mandatory mask usage, yet they have managed and currently managing the pandemic exceptionally well, Sweden and New Zealand are good examples.

In March, Beijing gave the green light to another clinical trial for a coronavirus vaccine candidate developed by the military-backed Academy of Military Medical Sciences and biotech firm CanSino Bio, shortly after US drug developer Moderna said it had begun human tests for their vaccine with the US National Institutes of Health.

Even when the news report clearly states that human trial had begun in the US since March, people are still shouting conspiracy this, conspiracy that; world power this, world power that. Is it that comprehension is hard ni abi what? Toor...

Koralords:
Russia have very good machines that are wey cheaper and effective that can match or surpass those of the USA ,
They currently have a missile that can strike anywhere in the world and are the only country apart from China that has deployed mach 5 weapons

Russia and America can strike anywhere in the world with their ICBMs. And your claim that China and Russia have deployed Mach 5+ missiles is not entirely true. However, the US, Russia and China are currently 'testing' hypersonic (weapons that run above Mach 5) conventional weapons, with Russia on track to be the first of them to deploy with 2020 as the scheduled year.

Ironically, all these countries have weapons that travel beyond Mach 10+ - ICBMs are known to travel between Mach 20-27 - which makes them the fastest, most strategic and deadliest weapons in a country's arsenal due to the sheer destruction they bring. The Mach 5+ weapons being tested are conventional weapons which can be deployed in small to mid-scale war without nuclear escalation that the ICBMs bring.

CallMeDrino:
Those saying the report that someone died of coronavirus in Omole is fake


How market

The case counted as fatality isn't the Omole case, I believe. Punch reported that a man died of the virus in LASUTH yesterday. According to the report, he lied to medical personnel that he had no travel history or symptoms synonymous to CONVID-19. But when his condition deteriorated, a resident doctor became suspicious and escalated the issue which prompted the hospital carrying out a CONVID-19 test on him, posthumously. Autopsy test shows that he has the virus, and the man had died due to renal complications from CONVID-19

Empiree:
African leaders, especially just are disgrace to black race. They present Nigeria as a dumpster. Smh ...as if there are no qualified doctors and nurses in the country. Nigeria never appreciated it's own. If they obtain first hands info then your are in trouble.

Sad part is that Nigerian citizens are smarter than the govt but if some smart citizens get to the top they make no impact. They just follow the blueprint

You've said it all bro.

We've tried as much as possible to contain this virus, at least for now, what necessitate this move by the feds is what I've been trying hard to understand.

BlackSpanner:
Can't they go and offer help to developed countries like Spain and Italy.

They want to infect us with the stubborn strain of the virus. Little wonder the NCDC boss says he expects the cases in Nigeria to rise soon.
Meaning they are even happy to sacrifice our citizens as lab rats.

Nigeria, we are our own problem.
The enemy of a man are members of his own household.

Funny enough they have experts on ground in Italy, but instead of the issue abating, it turned to a dire situation.

Honestly, I don't understand why the feds are bringing in the Chinese at this time. We don't even have up to 300 active cases, according to the current statistics released, so why bring them? Inferiority complex won't kill us in this part of the world o.

To those insulting the OP over his message/post, you don't and should not insult him. This is the way he wants to express his love for the lady in his life, we should all respect that. The best y'all can do is to laugh at the humour and move on from it, not throw tantrums as if you're feeding or buying data for him. It is his time, his life, and he can do whatsoever he pleases with it.

OP, you did well. I hope she reciprocate the kind of love you have for her.

Happy new month bro.

Seun:
This is stupid. I hope it doesn't affect Nairaland. The #ShutDownNigeria people don't have a very deep understanding of how an economy works. The vast majority of business activities in a developing country like Nigeria are essential. Very few people going to Lagos just for fun. Our leaders think that shutting things down is a viable alternative to massive testing and isolation of those who test positive, and we are cheering them on. There is no quick fix to the Coronavirus. There is no alternative to massive testing, isolation and contact tracing. We have to use our brains.

To be shutting down a country to stop a virus is like shooting a man dead to kill the sickness in his body. Does it work? Yes. But it's also stupid. I say instead of that, find a drug that targets the sickness in his body and kills it without killing the man. That's the only real solution to this issue.

There are only two countries whose efforts to beat the Coronavirus have been really successful. China and South Korea. I suggest that they are the only people that we should be listening to. They both encourage the widespread use of facemasks. They both do massive testing and isolation of infected people. China shut down part of their country but South Korea didn't do that despite having around 1,000 new cases per day at peak. They just continued to do every smart thing that could reduce the rate of transmission of the virus, and it worked and is working.

If you put a mask on every face, educate everybody about how to conduct their business without spreading the virus, and do massive testing of all people suspected to have the virus, and that doesn't work (it will), that's when you can start thinking of shutting things down. Our politicians won't even distribute face-masks to market women in Lagos who are begging them for it, or wear them, but they want to #ShutDownNigeria.

You have said it all.

I know of a company in Lagos that laid off all its direct sales agents, about 42 of them, last week The excuse they gave was that they are going digital and won't need such employees. Why wait till this moment? Isn't that the highest level of insensitivity? The simple answer to this is, they simply want to stay afloat by cutting cost.

I've said it over and over again to people around me that care to listen that this shutdown may not be good for us. Trump refused to shutdown the United States, even though some of the governors had used their constitutional powers to restrict movement in their states. He has said it repeatedly, whether possible or not, that he plans to reopen the country by mid-April. Just last week, about 3.3 million Americans filed initial unemployment claims in the US, which is the biggest in the country's history. What the country is doing is to significantly increase testing, which they were initially nonchalant about when the virus was on rampage in China, with New York spearheading that aggressively, that is why we see such large numbers everyday. Just last week, the Brazilian government started an online video campaign, albeit in proxy, that the country can't shutdown. The video shows possible devastating effects of a lockdown on the country's economy and its people. Jide Sanwo-Olu of Lagos has also refused to shutdown the state because he knows the effect of such action.

Countries have raised billions and trillions of dollars to help citizens directly to cushion the effects, ours are talking about rice and beans, some of them are not even saying anything other than to shutdown. Even if we are to shutdown, where are the legislators to push for stimulus bills that will help the common man?

Just as you opined, we need lots of testing centres. As at now, we don't have problem with test results because they are known within hours. All we have to do is create massive testing centres. We have facilities rotten away. The Teslim Balogun stadium alone can accommodate well over 2000 people at once. We can introduce drive through testing like the Koreans and the Americans. We can set up such spots in Borny Camp, Falomo bridge, Ikoyi bridge and Lekki toll gate. Other good spots are second Niger bridge, Abuja-Kaduna expressway and so on. This will help to identity carriers and help us isolate them as soon as possible.

In a country like ours, where the large chunk of employers are small businesses, the effects of a complete lockdown will be devastating, and the people cheering them will bear the brute force of its effects.

makewetalk2:
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/13/815441078/south-koreas-drive-through-testing-for-coronavirus-is-fast-and-free

Oga, go an look at Abacha loot, Obasanjo loot, atiku loot, dangote, adenuga, etc

I dont know how a grown up like you cannot decipher hyperbole. hyperbole aside the fact is true. our billionaires are undocumented by forbes but forbes knows that they are wealthier than those listed. forbes only listed people whose wealth can be accounted for.

I said 15 minutes but look it is even 10 minutes.
at this stage, you should update yourself.

Eeya, kpele o Mr Hyperbole, it's obvious you have this very bad attitude of using crude words, so I think it will be a waste of time to engage you. But before that...

It seems you are the one that compiled the list of Africa's richest to know how much Obasanjo and co looted, and where they rank on your concorted list. I asked you to state facts, not some fibs you conjured in your head, and just to satisfy your pettiness, you resulted into rants.


And please tell us, when was the Italian man tested, when did he get his result? When was Buhari tested, when did he get his result? When was Abba Kyari tested, when did he get his result? When was Bauchi governor tested, when did he get his result? When did we get the news that Akeredolu got tested, when did he get his result?

I guess your search for cheap likes won't let you see how dumb you sound; clap for yourself boy, you got them.

makewetalk2:
only his office?

In a time like this, where is MTN? where is glo?
where is Dangote?

Jack Ma had to come to donate to us. [s]when we have the top 10 wealthiest people in africa[/s].


[s]countries the testing is done under 15 mins to a day. In Nigeria it is days before you get your result if you are lucky.[/s]

Inasmuch as it is understandable that you're really concerned about the situation in your beloved country, learn to state true facts.

The quoted statements above are blatant falsehood. Stay safe!

6digitscomrade:
are u saying it’s impossible? And please excuse that checking of dictionary mr Man U can’t erroneously assume I don’t know the meaning of what I called that will be outrightly irresponsible to do.. I don’t live in Nigeria people on ground are telling me what they felt and their several speculations already... just because pipeline explosions it’s convenient to blame doesn’t mean every explosion outside Borno is a pipeline explosion.. expand ur horizon..

Lemme now concentrate on examining the damage back home ..don’t wanna argue about it ..thanks for ur concern.

I wouldn't have responded if you didn't mention the bolded. Pipeline explosion can be caused by so many factors. So, you can't blame "pipeline explosion" because it is not a factor, but the name given to such event triggered by a factor or factors.

Now my friend, you should be the one to expand your horizon because staying outside the shores of this country does not automatically make you informed. If you were, you would have considered the impact your falsehood could cause if less informed people, or those who have relatives or loved ones in that area see your post.

And just as you suggest, kindly focus on the damages back home and stop spreading whoppers.

6digitscomrade:
ok I don check the dictionary said it’s impossible for it to happen in Africa that only SARS,corruption and strains of viruses can affect the continent because of ur hot weather.. i have heard u now u can excuse me..

Lol...there is no need for you to be sensational. If you had checked your dictionary before making such claim, you wouldn't come out to say the explosion was caused by an asteroid impact.

It is true that there is a pipeline explosion, but it was so wrong of you to have ostensibly exaggerate the cause of the explosion. What do you stand to gain from such, my friend? Peace!

6digitscomrade:
oh Bleep I just confirmed it destroyed our house also my brother just told me it was an asteroid I’m really really devastated right now!

Asteroid ke You better check your dictionary before you make an outrageous claim

May God protect the victims.

To know SLS, just ask any First Bank employee (manager level upward) that worked at the bank headquarters when he was the CEO.

The guy is a big fraud.

Except the Op is just writing for the sake of it, those bikers or napeps are not in VI, Ikoyi, Obalende, Apapa and Ebute Metta anymore; this is 100% fact.

seunlayi:
Till May? Are they Building another bridge? Their should be another way of going about the repair without full closure of the entire bridge for 3 months.

Maybe you need to read the report again..."partial closure"

Okay

yanabasee:
If she's Yoruba, forget it.....

Well, your assertion is wrong. My cousin did the same thing; the two are Yorubas.

lionshare:
So I heard there are security reports that actually made the banning imperative. But it seems the Lagos Govt is playing to the gallery by not targeting a particular section of the public that the reports actually indicts.

It makes no sense to punish all for the expected sins or antecedents of a part of the whole. Be direct, specific and honest!!! It pays in the long run...as you earn public trust.

Btw, whats 65 buses in a sub-national with the so-called 20M+ people? The government can do better with better engagement, profiling and a gradual reduction in phases while filling in the void with the provision of inner-city transport services.

If I may, I don't know if I'm actually thinking of what you prolly know, but I believe it's going to create a much more bigger crisis than we have now if the government admits that such decision was made against a specific group.

While walking down the street on Saturday, I heard people saying the same thing about a report that certain group of people had taken over the whole state, in very large numbers, through okada and maruwa - I had raised this issue with my manager long before this policy was made, of which he shared the same thought. These people pose a high security risk, according to this widespread report.

Yes, this policy is not favouring the masses at the moment, and I believe better alternatives could have been provided before the decision was made. I however hope that at the end of the day, we get to see that the advantages outweigh the pains we currently pass through.

And why do you have to post this picture here, Op? Like someone said on the first page of this post, if we continue this trend of posting highly graphic pictures like this online, time will come when people will be so used to seeing dead bodies that they wouldn't mind eating the flesh. Y'all should give some respect to the dead! Not everyone here is old enough to see something as terrifying as this.

I think this isn't about discriminating against Nigeria. They gave reasons why they added Nigeria to the list, the question is, are the reasons valid?

We shouldn't all react with emotions. When you applied for a visa and tell the authorities you're going to spend 2 weeks, but end up spending forever, how do you want such country to react?

SweetBuns:
No doubt

You're mentally slow

Haha.....you saw that guy's line too. When I did, I was like who in hell would think of this in the first place?! Most Nigerians always use every opportunity to ridicule their country. Banana Island of all places. My first visit to that Island made me accept that truly all fingers are not equal.

obedience4:
thank God you send 1980s can you compare the technology we have now with us then in the 1980s, after the downing of the Iranian plane.. planes started using the transponder civilian transponder.. on radar you can easily differentiate between a military plane and a civilian one .. by their transponder they send signals by the speed and trajectory of a plane you will know
and beside while the case is so sad is that the plane left and Iranian
airport a plane that left your airport then you said the plane was a hostile plane

You are wrong on this. Planes have been using transponders long before that. The difference between that incident and this one is that the Iranian plane was flying over the Strait of Hormuz while the USS Vincennes was operating there during the Iran-Iraq war. Strait of Hormuz is like Iranian border, but yet Iran's territory.

Read an excerpt from document detailing the incident.

According to the United States government, the crew of USS Vincennes had incorrectly identified the Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat, a U.S.-made jet fighter that had been part of the Iranian Air Force inventory since the 1970s. While the F-14s had been supplied to Iran in an air-to-air configuration,[4][5] the crew of the guided missile cruiser had been briefed that the Iranian F-14s were equipped with air-to-ground ordnance.[6] Vincennes had made ten attempts to contact the aircraft on both military and civilian radio frequencies, but had received no response.[7] According to the Iranian government, the cruiser negligently shot down the aircraft, which was transmitting IFF squawks in Mode III, a signal that identified it as a civilian aircraft, and not Mode II as used by Iranian military aircraft.[8][9] The event generated a great deal of criticism of the United States. Some analysts blamed the captain of Vincennes, William C. Rogers III, for overly aggressive behavior in a tense and dangerous environment.[7][10] In the days immediately following the incident, US President Ronald Reagan issued a written diplomatic note to the Iranian government, expressing deep regret.[11]

OneKinGuy:
It's clearly a mistake. they had surface to air missiles which automatically shoots down any thing around its range

SAM does not shoot automatically. That system is always manned. Before missiles are launched, the system is loaded, activated, target verified, target locked and then the system takes it from there.

My assertion above is in line with Iran's latest report which claimed it was human error. This means someone jittery locked on that plane without verifying.

To avoid this sort of incidence, military and civilian aircrafts have different transponder frequencies so that military and civilian radars can detect which is which.

All in all, may the soul of the departed rest in peace.