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CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 8:04pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
Our security agencies can't be autonomous simply becuase we are operating Democratic system. Giving the security agencies the liberty to operate on their own without being dependent of the executive arm of government is hazardous and not healthy. It simply means we are calling for a military rule in Nigeria. Thats why the President is the Grand commander of all the armed forces in Nigeria. He has the power to make appointment as regards the leadership of various security agencies, which they are directly answerable to the president.

The police and other security agencies can only be under the executive arm of government being the highest and most superior arm of government. Historically, the police were used by our colonial masters to oppress the masses during the colonial era. The use of the police politically has been existing since time immemorial. The only panacea to the security challenges in Nigeria like I said earlier is "community policing". Like you said, security institution is a sensitive and vital institution in any government, any vacuum created in this institution can result in something detrimental to.the government and the Nation at large so it needs to be handled carefully.

If you read more about community policing, you will actually understand more about the system. Thats the only solution.
Won't the same "community police" system be under an institution of the government that has made a mockery of it?
How is it possible for the judiciary,for instance, to be independent without undue interference from other arms?
I keep asking...how were saner climes esp the Americas able to implement "state policing" without the interference of any kind of government?
Mind you...being autonomous doesn't imply that there won't be a regulatory arm to ensure there is no high handedness on the part of the security or anyone!
Your solutions as noble as it may be sound will still depend on the same government that we are seeking not to interfere with our security system!
In my opinion, i still believe state policing is the still the best solution for the insecurities in our nation only if the right laws and policies are drafted to ensure no one takes advantage of the system!
Without a fair amount of independence,we will never achieve the kind of security institution that we always see in other advanced countries!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs Chelsea (1 - 1) On 28th April 2019 by openmine(m): 6:28pm On Apr 28, 2019
why is it that the four clubs are afraid of being in the champions league spot? undecided undecided
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 6:25pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
If they are not being controlled by state government, are they independent on their own?

And from my own point of view, state government can't be catering for their needs and not being controlled by them. As far as state government is financing them directly, they will be under the control of state government.

Do you know there is a particular allocation that comes from federal government to all state governments every month to fight insecurity in every state. Its called "security votes". Each state gets nothing less than 500million monthly to cater for the security challenges within their states. The state does not in any way spend on security in Nigeria.
I get your point...he who pays the piper dictates the tune!
However,that's not the case here because we definitely need an autonomous security personnel!
My point is that if the judiciary and legislative are independent of the executive despite the fact that its the executive that provides the funds for both for the state and federal entities,why can't we do the same for the security personnel considering the fact that its a very sensitive institution and there should never be a margin for errors when it comes to human lives!

I do believe that in other saner climes,the security personnel esp the local police is funded by the state government,yet the state government have no influence on the security personnel and this is based on the constitution that protects the security from the interference of the state government!

The reason why the police force is in shambles is due to influences from the federal government...this is what the federal government has been doing for a long time with our security personnel and it has to stop!
All am saying is if we want to make our security to be top notch and effective,we must make that institution autonomous...if we dont then we can as well be our own security!
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 4:20pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
If there is no interference from state government, then what's the idea behind state policing if they are still being controlled by Federal government.
being called state does not imply that it must be controlled by the state government of that state!
The governor can be obligated to provide for welfare and provision of what the security require but that does not imply that they must be subject to the state government!
We have had enough of the interference of the Nigerian police force by the federal government!
Its time we made the police autonomous in order for them to be unbiased and effective!
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 3:37pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
I dnt really have an idea seriously.
Based on the information from wiki,the state policing is practiced in 23 states in america!
Those states that practice state policing ensure that there will be no interference from the state government!
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 2:56pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
State policing involves the state government directly. The administration of state policing is solemnly in the hands of state government without federal government interference. The budget of the state policing will be passed by state house of assembly and any finances for the state policing is provided by the state government. Recruitment is also done on behalf of the state government. So the state government is in charge of the state policing. And one of the reasons the central government in Nigeria is strong and relevant is because the security apparatus is directly under the federal government. Once the state government have their own state security, then the relevancy and power of the central government will be reduced which will different weaken the central government. So the idea of state policing should be expunged. What we need to focus on is empowering the police more by increasing their budget allocation and recruiting more personnel's.
So how were advanced countries like USA able to effectively implement "state policing" and reduce insecurity?
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 1:55pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
The commissioner of police need not to take any directive from abuja before he acts on security challenges within his jurisdiction. He is empowered to act on his own and not a subject of IGP approval.

Which directive does the commissioner of police need to take when people's lives is at stake. What is the duty of the commissioner of police in a state if not to protect the lives and properties of the citizens on behalf of the government.

It time they stopped playing politics with lives of people in the name of vergence or bitterness. The commissioner of police is appointed to work with the state government on behalf of the federal govt. In a sane society, the first function of any government is to protect and safeguard the lives and properties of the citizens, where there is contrary, it simply shows the person in charge is not capable enough govern such state. In the light of that, he/she should resign from such position but unfortunately, this is Nigeria.


I don't subscribe to the idea of state policing simply because the state government will eventually use them to victimise their political opponents or anyone who speak ill of their government as the police can be easily compromised. What we need now is to expand the police by recruiting more officers into the system. Community policing will curb the issue of insecurity we are experiencing in the country. With community policing, every adhering member of the society can work hand in hand with the security agency by responding swifty and prevent any security breach that is likely to come up. So the issue of state policing is not the solution to the insecurity in Nigeria
Based on the constitution, yes the commissioner for police is mandated to be answerable to only the IGP and the IGP to the federal government!
Failure to adhere to such will be seen as insubordination and express transfer or removal of such police commissioner!
That's the constitution for you!

I agree that one of the functions of a governor is to ensure the security of lives and property, however,we all know its all talk and no action....what am trying to say is that your function is based on the amount of authority you wield!
Right now,no governor has such authorities to command or direct police commissioners to do nothing unless they have been directed by the IGP!
A very typical instance is the Fulani herdsmen killings where the police commissioner told the governor,who wanted the commissioner to act quickly,that he has not received any directive from "abuja" hence he cannot do anything!

Finally,I do agree with you on the demerits of state policing,however,the community policing that you are seeking to offer is as a result of state policing!
What we should be talking about is how the police reforms can make the police have some form of independence!
State policing does not expressly involve the state government!
State policing which is apparently working in other developed climes can work without the involvement of the state government!
PoliticsRe: "Yahaya Bello A Very Good Man, Misled By Igala People" — Ohinoyi Of Ebira by openmine(m): 1:37pm On Apr 28, 2019
Pathetic excuse!
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 1:12pm On Apr 28, 2019
Moganajoe:
For your information , Wike is the CSO of the state. Whatever happens in the state falls on his table, good or bad. He shouldn't only come out to claim glory only when something good happen!

The current insecurity in the state is a seed planted by Wike, and he is enjoying it to the fullest, have u ever heard of security vote? Do u know how much is voted into??.

When Amaechi was a governor, Rivers state was one of the most peaceful state in the region.
The so called CSO tag is just a title!
Its got no bearing on the state government!
It also does not make the governor in charge of the security personnel in that state!
This is public knowledge!
The very reason why there was peace during the time of amaechi was simply a coexistence of all political gladiators in the state based on their uniform political affiliations!
However,we all know such coexistence can never stand the test of time!

Secondly,Amaechi as governor then was still in the same party as that of the president which made it easier for him to have access to the police commissioner and also the IGP!
So peace being achieved in rivers state then was as a result of his party affiliations at the centre! This is a known fact!

Am not absolving wike from any blame,however we must leave out politics when it comes to the security of lives and properties! Wike has not such powers to give any commissioner of police any directive!
He can only plead with the federal government!

The only way we can end the spat of violence,killings and other vices is to give some level of autonomy to the police!
This will ensure that the police implement the state policing as soon as possible to ensure that insecurity is brought to its barest minimum!
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 1:00pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
I understand your points vividly, nevertheless, as the governor of the state, he still has a big role to play in curbing the whole crime. He should cry out to federal for assistance but it seems he is indifferent about the killing and kidnapping. If he is really concerned enough, he won't wait for public outcry before he takes the necessary step.
I understand your concerns too, however due to politics and party affiliations our security has been manipulated to favour those who are in charge at abuja!

This is no secret as we are all aware that you can't castigate the president and still ask him to bring to direct the IGP to act on the insecurities in the state!

The problem ab initio has been our skewed and lopsided constitution that has subjected our security personnel to only be answerable to the centre!

To be honest with you,I don't like what's happening at rivers state,however the truth still remains that the least the governor can do is to plead with the commissioner of police in the state which won't be enough because the police commissioner only takes directives or orders from abuja which to me is a lopsided approach to curbing insecurity in our society!

I sincerely believe the police reforms which includes state policing will correct this anomaly!
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 12:04pm On Apr 28, 2019
CrimeKsmart:
Wike should resign. As the chief security officer of the state, he ought to have taken measures to halt the unnecessary killing and kidnapping in Rivers state. Let him resign if he can't put the bad situation under control
bro that chief security officer tag is just an ordinary title.....it has no relevance!
The federal government is the one on charge of the nigerian police force!
Let me give you an instance,when the governor of Enugu reported to the then commission of police about the Fulani herdsmen killing his people,the commissioner said he was waiting for directives from the IGP in abuja before he will act!

Same is applicable to zamfara state where the governor confessed that he was not in charge of security on his state and pleaded with the federal government to send security personnel to zamfara due to the rise in armed robbery and kidnapping in the state!

No Governor is in charge of the security of his own state!
That's a fact!
CrimeRe: Lady Shot Dead While Returning From Work In Rivers State (Photos) by openmine(m): 11:53am On Apr 28, 2019
dominique:
Governor Wike these killings are getting too much
As much as I want to query the governor for the rise in insecurity in rivers state,governor wike just like other governors are not in charge of security in their various states!

Forget about the "chief security officer" tag on each governor,they are not in charge of the security personnel of the state....the federal government is the one in charge!
They are the ones in charge of posting of police commissioners and whatever concerns policing in Nigeria!

This is why the police reform which also includes "state policing" must be signed quickly by the president to avoid such avoidable deaths!
TravelRe: School Bus On Fire In Bayelsa by openmine(m): 5:52am On Apr 28, 2019
favosafarms:
* The school bus was in a good condition as they are usually serviced before the resumption of every term.
* Safety procedure put in place was the use of the vehicle fire extinguisher, which solved nothing.
* The drivers credentials are up to date and has worked previously as a school bus driver therefore qualified.
* All vehicle prechecks are carried out every morning and incase of faults communicated to the management who calls on the mechanic.

Deep Investigations into the matter is still ongoing as lives can't be taken for granted.
Hmmmm.....if the school bus was in a good condition and prechecks carried out every morning,what then was the cause of the fire that consumed the entire bus?
Well I await accurate investigations and hoping some one must be held accountable for this unfortunate incident that could have resulted into a fatal scenario!
PoliticsRe: Where Is The Ibom Air Launched By Governor Udom Emmanuel Before The Election? by openmine(m): 1:38am On Apr 27, 2019
Unnecessary post....Just shows op is uninformed!
Not every thing should be used to play politics!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool Vs Huddersfield 26/04/2019 8pm by openmine(m): 8:53pm On Apr 26, 2019
Liverpool have seriously exceeded my expectations! This is a team that has everything! Youth,skill set,experience and "never say die" attitude! If not for Liverpool, man city would have won the league before Christmas!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool Vs Huddersfield 26/04/2019 8pm by openmine(m): 8:27pm On Apr 26, 2019
2-0 mane
SportsRe: Jurgen Klopp Says "Liverpool Is Team Of The Season" by openmine(m): 11:35am On Apr 26, 2019
Asked how United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer can rebuild his side, Klopp answered: "They didn't help us, why should we help them?"

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TravelRe: School Bus On Fire In Bayelsa by openmine(m): 11:23am On Apr 25, 2019
luvtoteach:
How true is it? Because schools are yet to resume.
There are some private schools that resume after easter monday!
TravelRe: School Bus On Fire In Bayelsa by openmine(m): 11:09am On Apr 25, 2019
Questions to be asked to avert future occurrence.....
Was the school bus in a good condition?
What safety procedures were put in place extinguish the initial fire aside the rescuing of the occupants?
Who is the driver of that bus and what are his credentials in terms of driving?
Did the driver ensure that pre-checks were carried out to ensure that the bus was in a stable condition before accelerating?

The parents of their wards must not only thank God but must insist that a rigorous investigation is carried out to know what happened....if this grave matter is left to die quickly,the occupants may not be fortunate next time!
CrimeRe: Female YABATECH IT Student Caught Stealing 500k By CCTV & Her Boss (Photos) by openmine(m): 11:03am On Apr 25, 2019
People who steal hardly do anything meaningful with the money!

Its unfortunate that the father knew what she was doing and still encouraged her to do more!

See how she ended up blocking a path that could have led her to endless job opportunities!

If she had been hard working in that company,they would have employed her after her studies with a huge pay!

That's how a lady got an automatic employment,after her NYSC, at one of the mobile telecomm outfit due to her efficiency when she was doing her industrial training!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs Manchester City (0 - 2) On 24th April 2019 by openmine(m): 9:17pm On Apr 24, 2019
Raydos:
Even if Man-city draw this match, they will still be ahead of liverpool with goals difference
no sir...if mancity draw,they will be a point behind Liverpool...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers Vs Arsenal (3 - 1) On 24th April 2019 by openmine(m): 9:08pm On Apr 24, 2019
SageMK:
Are you an Arsenal fan?

Please text “ABEG” to 131 to stop this man-hauling!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/c29d0f1bd3cf96e28837fbff47a8711f/tumblr_nxjvhp2l4G1rfd7lko1_500.gif
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs Manchester City (0 - 2) On 24th April 2019 by openmine(m): 8:51pm On Apr 24, 2019
HT
Still 0-0
Thought some folks said manutd will be crushed before half time grin grin
Meanwhile wolves are destroying poor arsenal grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs Manchester City (0 - 2) On 24th April 2019 by openmine(m): 8:11pm On Apr 24, 2019
dukeprince50:
Gooooooooaaaaaaaaaalllllllllll

Manchester united 1:0




the goal was scored on chivita advert
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CrimeRe: How Man Duped By Yahoo Boys Committed Suicide by openmine(m): 2:12pm On Apr 24, 2019
beyond this narration,people must be knowledgeable enough to know you don't give out everything when it comes to investing in a business esp one that you still don't understand or know!
One of the first rules about giving your money in a business venture is to "invest what you know you are willing to lose"!

This same thing happened to oruma when he invested almost all his life savings in an unknown oil company shares!
We all know what happened at the end!

so sad that the guy took his life!
TravelRe: Multiple Car Accidents Along Benin-Ore Express Road, Many Feared Dead by openmine(m): 12:11pm On Apr 24, 2019
When tragedy strikes,we blame every thing but ourselves!

We blame the wind....we blame juju....we even blame village people for the cause of accidents or even our problems!

But if you look well enough without applying our usually flawed naija self induced emotions,we will discover that these accidents are purely as a result of human negligence and carelessness because these accidents are avoidable!

About 90% of road drivers are reckless and always in a hurry to prove a point while driving!
Or how would one explain a car overtaking two opposing trailers coming from different lanes?

Most of our drivers are not properly trained in safety procedures....which explains why there are too many fatal accidents caused by head-on collision!

Finally,Let's address and tackle the real causes of the increasing rate of accidents with the aim of finding lasting solutions to this recurring decimal instead of lazily blaming "Edo juju" for our woes!

My opinion!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Chelsea Vs Burnley (2 - 2) On 22nd April 2019 by openmine(m): 10:06pm On Apr 22, 2019
dukeprince50:
Goal Chelsea 3:2



shevchenko scores, a lovely pass from crespo
grin grin Come you don take ur tablet? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Chelsea Vs Burnley (2 - 2) On 22nd April 2019 by openmine(m): 10:03pm On Apr 22, 2019
PORNeliusHUBson:
Goal!!!!!

yess

Christensen!

Own goal. Chelsea 2 - 3 Burnley
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Vs Crystal Palace (2 - 3) On 21st April 2019 by openmine(m): 6:00pm On Apr 21, 2019
This crystal palace team sha.... grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Cardiff City Vs Liverpool (0 - 2) On 21st April 2019 by openmine(m): 5:58pm On Apr 21, 2019
Cityfirstborn:
cardiff to equalise in the last 5min. Liverpool will not smell this league
grin grin So u carry Cardiff dey get hope abi? grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Cardiff City Vs Liverpool (0 - 2) On 21st April 2019 by openmine(m): 5:56pm On Apr 21, 2019
Chai see haters every where.... grin grin They are now saying Cardiff lack ambition grin grin The sifia pain is too obvious grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Cardiff City Vs Liverpool (0 - 2) On 21st April 2019 by openmine(m): 5:52pm On Apr 21, 2019
Reussite:
The game isn't over yet now...anything can still happen. They've been asking the questions in the last few mins.
Chai these haters sha....keep having invisible hope grin grin

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