₦airaland Forum

ThePlugg:
Typical example of a true nairalander....thinking with his ass and not applying even 0.5% of his brains for understanding

Muyico is an ardent Tinubu fan and supporter, hence forgive the fact he can't think on his own.

Predictor3:
No more ASSU strikes
No more fuel queues

No more fuel queues but fuel is now 100 times what Tinubu met it. No more fuel queues as an average Nigerian can't afford it again. It's called impoverishment

Two clowns beloved my other clowns. The average youth mind is a circus

madridguy:
Why you dey pity the Emir of Abuja? Why not pity your crying Obi-lie

You run from intelligent conversations, but convos like this involving name callings and non intelligent is where you gyrate. Natural of a Tinubu sycophant

APC is fast becoming a house divided against itself. You welcomed a flood of decampees without any real structure to manage competing ambitions, and now the cracks are showing. This isn’t opposition strength it’s internal chaos.
Too many interests, too many “anointed” candidates, too many power struggles. That kind of environment creates tension and breeds instability. And with your convention just around the corner, it’s only going to get messier.
At this rate, it won’t take ADC or PDP to weaken APC. APC is already doing a fine job of tearing itself apart from within.

HacheNoire:
The opposition needs to tone down the warfare they waging with human life’s.

Not having the political structure and dominance is not an excuse to sabotage the government and the administration of His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR)

Intelligence units should be on high alert. Political oppositions are waging war against our Great country.

Imagine folks I share the same space with. Your countrymen are abducted and your post is to bring opposition and politics into it you guys have lost all sense of humanity and reasoning for political sake. You didn't even commemorate with the kidnapped victim. Mehnnnn APC really do this one on our supposed youth.

panafrican:
The people clutching their pearls about "both sides" being to blame for the chaos in the Middle East are peddling a lazy, ahistorical cop-out that whitewashes Israel's decades-long record of aggression, ethnic cleansing, and war crimes while pretending Iran's actions exist in a vacuum.

Palestinians didn't start this in 1948, they were the ones forcibly expelled from their homes in the Nakba, with hundreds of thousands driven out through massacres, village destructions, and terror.

Since then, they've been on the defensive against ongoing occupation, settlement expansion, blockades, and systematic dispossession. Iran didn't invent that resistance; it exploited and amplified existing grievances.

And let's talk Sabra and Shatila in 1982: Israeli forces surrounded the camps, lit flares at night to guide the Phalange militias in, and stood by as those militias raped, mutilated, and slaughtered thousands of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians over three days.

Israel's own Kahan Commission found Ariel Sharon personally responsible for ignoring the foreseeable bloodshed and failing to prevent it—yet he faced no real punishment, later becoming prime minister.
That's not "complexity"; that's enabling massacre.

Fast-forward to today: Netanyahu literally pulls out a punch-card "hit list" of Iranian officials in front of the US ambassador, bragging about "erasing" names after assassinations (like recent strikes killing senior figures), laughing it off as proof he's alive amid rumors.

He boasts Israel is "wiping them out" to stop nuclear threats. If Iran's president did the exact same (parading a list of Israeli leaders marked for death next to a foreign envoy) the Western media, governments, and "both-sides" commentators would scream "state terrorism" and "existential threat" from every rooftop, demanding sanctions, strikes, regime change.
But when Netanyahu does it? Crickets, or at best mild tut-tutting about "tone."

The double standard is glaring: Israel's open boasts about targeted killings, extraterritorial assassinations, and collective punishment get framed as "self-defense" or "complex security needs," while any Iranian response is proof of an irredeemable "terror axis.

Let's be crystal clear here : pretending that "Iran's backing of Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, and others" creates a "complex situation " or is morally equivalent to Israel's foundational role in Palestinian dispossession and repeated invasions/occupations/ genocide is deliberate obfuscation

"Both sides are bad" or "no one is clean" is the language of those who want to dilute accountability for the stronger, occupying power and keep the status quo intact.
Call it what it is: Israel's crimes aren't excused by Iran's support to the those who are being invaded.
Refusing to name Israel's primary role in the oppression and violence at the heart of this mess is just complicity dressed up as nuance.

There’s real history in what you’ve written, but you’re still turning a complex situation into a one-sided narrative.
Yes, the Nakba in 1948 led to mass Palestinian displacement. That’s a documented and painful part of history.
Yes, the Sabra and Shatila massacre happened, and Israel’s own Kahan Commission found leadership especially Ariel Sharon indirectly responsible for failing to prevent it.
Those are serious facts, and they shouldn’t be minimized.

But acknowledging that doesn’t mean everything else becomes simple.
Iran’s role in the region isn’t just “amplifying grievances.” It has actively funded and armed groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, which have carried out attacks on civilians. That’s part of the cycle of violence too.
Israel, on the other hand, has carried out military operations that have caused civilian harm and drawn global criticism. That also can’t be ignored or excused.
The problem is this: once you frame one side as the sole aggressor and the other as purely reactive, you stop describing reality, you start defending a position.

History here isn’t clean. Power imbalances exist, yes but so do multiple actors making decisions that escalate conflict.
Saying “both sides have responsibility” isn’t always a cop-out. Sometimes it’s an attempt to avoid replacing one oversimplification with another.
If we actually care about truth, then we have to be consistent: call out wrongdoing wherever it happens, not just where it fits a narrative.

olaBanks:
The 2027 election will be a game changer. Let’s see how the opposition will pull up stunt. To be honest, the opposition are not looking serious at this time. No real strategy at all.

Ah yes… “opposition not serious” because they’re not making noise every week online.
Meanwhile, the biggest headline the ruling All Progressives Congress can boast of after years of consolidated power is photo-ops and political visits like Kashim Shettima receiving Dauda Lawal and many more political alignment.
No major structural reforms, no clear economic turnaround, no significant shift in insecurity metrics just optics and defections being packaged as “progress.”
If that’s the benchmark, then yes… the opposition is “not serious” for not competing in press releases.
Politics isn’t about who trends early; it’s about who delivers results people can actually feel. Nigerians aren’t blind to inflation, cost of living, or the daily realities on ground.
The real “stunt” in 2027 won’t be noise it will be accountability.

Only acheivements APC folks can relate with.

panafrican:
Let the historical record be crystal clear and shouted from the rooftops: Israel did NOT just support ISIS , it HELPED BIRTH and nurture that monstrous creation. Iran had ZERO role in founding ISIS.

Israel has systematically bled Syria dry through relentless airstrikes, proxy chaos, and calculated destabilization.
Now it's doing the exact same thing to Lebanon , turning it into a bleeding wound, bombing civilian areas, assassinating leaders, and shattering lives without mercy.

And let's not forget the even bigger picture:
The United States literally midwifed Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. They poured billions in weapons, training, and cash into the mujahideen to bleed the Soviet Union ( all while a communist leader like Najibullah held power).

That Frankenstein monster they helped create turned on the world. It was NEVER Iran that founded Al-Qaeda. So before you rush to pick a side in this blood-soaked war , before you swallow the propaganda and point fingers at the wrong villains, THINK AGAIN.
Look at who actually plants these terrorist seeds, who waters them, and who then pretends to fight the harvest. The real architects of terror aren't always the ones being demonized in the headlines. The truth doesn't care about narratives. It demands you open your eyes.

We can’t rewrite history just to fit a narrative.
Groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda didn’t just appear because of one country. They came out of a mix of war, power struggles, extremist ideology, and failed states. Reducing it to “Israel created ISIS” or “the U.S. created Al-Qaeda” is an oversimplification at best.
Yes, the United States supported Afghan fighters during the Soviet war but that’s not the same as directly creating Al-Qaeda. The situation evolved far beyond that.
Same with Israel. You can criticize its actions in Syria or Lebanon, but claiming it “birthed ISIS” without solid evidence is a serious accusation, not a fact.
And saying Iran had ZERO role in regional instability ignores its involvement in proxy conflicts across the Middle East.
If we’re going to talk about truth, then let’s actually respect how complex these issues are. No one is completely clean here but also, no one should be blamed with claims that aren’t backed by clear evidence.
Strong opinions are fine. But accuracy matters more.

neyop85:
Which is paining you, the light or the UK party giving your kind sleepless nights?

Play politics all you want, Nigeria will happen to you somedays and soonest. And trust me, it will hit hard. We will be here to sympathise with you if it gets public though.

Y'all don't know we are in a large mess when ado rock disconnected to be replaced by solar.


Tinubu is a great politician but very bad leader. As a fact everything that is wrong with leadership.

3.5?? Lol.


Not everything is Tinubu

Very correct, the direction of extinction.

Razzness:
And your family too.

I'm not mocking the victims for political reasons neither did I seei white and call it black.

ZACHIE:
Don't they all take DGN projects and get repaid for it?

They want visibility. So they take on only visible projects. Period.

Been hearing rumours no matter how intelligent anyone is once you start supporting this current govt, they always loose all sense of intellect. You perfectly confirmed the rumour.

So Seyi makinde is supposed to light up UCH and get paid for it? Damnnnnnn

Cum4me:
you be mumu may what happened to the department soul happen to your family.....

A very big amen on that to Razzness and is loved ones.

ZACHIE:
Makinde will get no glory of he fix the light at UCH.
Only fancy road networks will bring applause.
UCH is on its own

Dear boy, makinde as no business with UCH. Maybe with Adeoyo specialist and others. UCH belongs solely to the federal govt.

muyico:
why he reject am?? If he no need
Collect am and dash it out!
Wisdoms no fits kill person, but lacks of it, fits kill

Lol, you never disappoint. Very smart Tinubu citizen, just like every other Tinubu supporter.

Make them add him own join muyico, Burop salewa97 helinues freestuffng yarimo and folks like him. They need it

nairalanda1:
Well, businesses must be run profitable

Ever heard the quote YOU CAN WIN A BATTKE AND LOSE THE WAR?

nairalanda1:
OKay, I guess you run a disco where you produce power at N200 Per kwh and sell it to the poor at N40 per kwh and make a profit...and government doesn't pay you any subsidy....

Thanks for telling me.

Profitability is how businesses works. Nothing is cheap. I and you don't have to like it.

And you needn't be abusive towards me.

There you go again validating my point.

nairalanda1:
Because any changes to the laws would involve a cost reflective tarrif system and an end to subsidy on power.

APC wants to be elected again so they avoid reality for popularity

Any time I see how you liter the comment section with your comments and half-baked fact while trying hard to sound impressive, it reminds me of Don Williams lyrics in the song THE ANSWER. it's goes thus, THE FOOL IS NOT THE ONE WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS BUT THE ONE WHO BELIEVE THEY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

This going viral is wrong.

nairalanda1:
Erm, subsidy started in 1973. If government is fixing prices below market levels and not paying any subsidy, the oil industry would have collaped due to losses in a few years, months even.


It's due to subsidy. Everything else comes from the subsidy. You don't force people to sell at a loss, and then not pay them enough to cover the losses. ANd as the years went by, it became increasingly difficult to do so

Government response was to reduce amounts spent on subsidy, which manifested as price increases, every now and then.

Same thing happened in many communist countries before 1991. Subsidies on food led to supply issues, corruption and famrers hoarding food.

Again, when you prevent someone from making a profit legally, they are going to do it illegally

We don't have food shortages, because food is sold at a profit here in Nigeria...and as such no distribution or corruption issues. Enough profit is made to cover costs...


And it is because of subsidy. At some point paying for fuel below market price is going to do that.

Government cannot control production costs and oil prices. Add the fact that oil money is the source of subsidy money (revenue from crude) which for the most part was always low to meet up with subsidy payments.

That's why we got warned in 1992. Remove subsidy. But we did not hear. Naturally by 1994...government hadto start skipping TAM and so forth...to save money on subsidy payments. They also had to do partial removal of subsdies as they had always been doing.

I mean, if you are selling fuel below market price, while it's cost of production is going up, and low oil prices means that no money to fund subsides (in 1996, 97% of government revenue came from crude, and crude was at very low prices then)...at some point something's got to give.

Ghana in the same period had no subsides, and had working and still has working refineries. Yeah.

Again, profits.



No , subsidy meant the refineries have been running at a loss.

I mean, see Venezuela...went from 900000 bpd in 1977 to 100000bpd in 2007. That was before sanctions...and all because their governments long before Chavez and after Chavez were keeping fuel at cheap prices. I doubt they were being run by NIgerians.



It always was unsustainable



Bad governance as exemplified by government thinking that fuel could be sold dirt cheap. All other things follow from it.

As has been proven several times, governments setting prices of a commodity or service never ends well.

It's obvious we won't see eye to eye in those points. Have a productive day.

nairalanda1:
Dangote doesn't hold a monopoly anywhere

Cement industry : he has at least three competitiors, one of which is the Nigerian subsidiary of a global cement company

Oil: As at 2012, over 20 licences were issued for refineries. Dangote had not even applied yet. Why didn't the others acton their refineries (the answer is subsidy made them risky for investors to pour money. Dangote on the other hand had other lucrative businesses which investors could use to pay themselves in the event of his refinery failing due to subsidy.).

Probably you don't stay in Nigeria, but we're taking of lived reality not paper work.

nairalanda1:
If you were dangote, would you sell product from your refinery at the price that would make poor nigerians happy, or at the price that would help you pay taxes, staff salaries, maintenance and expansion costs, loans, shareholders, and so forth, and leave you with some money left over that can be reinvested?

If I were Dangote, of course I would sell at a price that keeps the business sustainable. A refinery isn’t charity it has to pay for crude oil, staff salaries, taxes, maintenance, loans, and expansion. The Dangote Refinery alone reportedly cost around $19–$20 billion to build and has a capacity of about 650,000 barrels per day, making it one of the largest single-train refineries in the world.

So yes, any investor would price products to recover costs and make profit.
However, the concern many Nigerians raise goes beyond profit. There have been long-standing debates about market dominance and competition around Aliko Dangote’s businesses. Similar criticisms were made in the cement sector, where Dangote Cement controls a large share of the market in Nigeria. Despite Nigeria being rich in limestone (the key raw material for cement), cement prices in Nigeria have often been among the highest in Africa, which critics attribute partly to limited competition and policy protection for local producers.
Because of that history, some Nigerians are wary of a situation where one private entity becomes overwhelmingly dominant in another strategic sector like refining. A functioning economy should encourage competition, strong regulation, and multiple producers, especially in a country like Nigeria that already produces the crude oil used to make petrol.
Profit is normal in business. The real issue people are debating is whether government policy should allow too much market concentration in critical sectors, or whether it should protect long-term national interest by ensuring competition so citizens benefit from the country’s own resources.