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Education / Re: Lady In Tears Begs Covenant University To Release Her Transcript by OrnamentOne: 5:50am On Dec 16, 2020 |
adeade83: Not in all cases. Individual circumstances differ. For example, if it's been really long you graduated, it might take exams and records or even ur faculty or department a lot of painstaking time to locate yohr result spreadsheet. The thing is the staff responsible usually do not go out all the way to look for resolutions to peculiar cases... you have to constantly breathe down their necks, including being physically present, to make any headway... |
Education / Re: Lady In Tears Begs Covenant University To Release Her Transcript by OrnamentOne: 5:46am On Dec 16, 2020 |
EdoFirstBorn: My MBA transcript from the same Unilag took 15 months to finally get verified by WES. August 2019 to November 2020. So, individual circumstances differ. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Only 3 Percent Of Americans Believe Trump Beat Biden by OrnamentOne: 11:23am On Nov 11, 2020 |
All these unreliable polls. 9 Likes |
Crime / Re: Ex-Staff Of First Bank Bags 98-Year-Jail Term For Stealing N49.3m, $368,000 by OrnamentOne: 12:29am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Looks like most people didn't understand the sentencing. She'll be in jail for 7 years only since the 14 counts of 7 years each run concurrently. If she was arrested in 2013 and had been in jail since then, she will be free in 2020. So it depends on when her start date commenced or commences. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Wike Receives Hero’s Welcome As He Arrives Port Harcourt From Edo (video) by OrnamentOne: 3:43pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
Think9ja: Ogbane means "it's complete". 4+4 Ogbane. 4+4 e don complete! |
Travel / Re: USA Fiancee (K1) Visa Thread by OrnamentOne: 9:15pm On Feb 29, 2020 |
kunlelikeme: Culled from the official website https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/nonimmigrant-visa-for-a-spouse-k-3.html The Second Step: Applying for a Visa Important Notice: [/b]When both petitions have been approved by USCIS and sent to the NVC or when USCIS approves the I-130 before the I-129F, the availability of, as well as the need for, a nonimmigrant K-3 visa ends. If the NVC receives both an approved I-130 petition and an approved I-129F petition: The nonimmigrant K-3 visa case will be administratively closed.[b] The application process explained below will not be available to the foreign-citizen spouse and cannot be used. The NVC will contact the U.S. citizen sponsor and foreign-citizen spouse, with instructions for processing the IR-1 (or CR-1) immigrant visa. For more information on the immigrant visa process, review the Immigrant Visa for a Spouse webpage. [/b] If the NVC receives the approved I-129F petition before it receives the I-130 petition, the NVC will process the I-129F petition.[b] NVC will then send the I-129F petition to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate in the country where the marriage took place. So the only way K3 can be approved is if it is filed first and way ahead of the CR1. If you file both together or file the CR1 before the K3, most likely the CR1 will be approved first. 2 Likes |
Travel / Re: USA Fiancee (K1) Visa Thread by OrnamentOne: 9:02pm On Feb 29, 2020 |
kunlelikeme: Sure |
Travel / Re: USA Fiancee (K1) Visa Thread by OrnamentOne: 3:40pm On Feb 29, 2020 |
seyimuyide: What do you mean by K3 is exited in Nigeria? Anyways when u file an I130 (CR1) together with an I129 (K3), it helps ur case to be approved faster at the USCIS. But it's the CR1 that gets approved, the K3 is refused. I haven't seen any K3 approval in a long time. I know because that's what my wife did last year, and I got approved at USCIS in 3 months. I'm in the US now by the way. NVC and time to get an interview took time. In all, it took me a total of 10 months from I130 petition to entering the US. 2 Likes |
Travel / Re: USA Fiancee (K1) Visa Thread by OrnamentOne: 11:54pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
kunlelikeme: K3 doesn't work again. 1 Like |
Travel / Re: USA Fiancee (K1) Visa Thread by OrnamentOne: 9:00am On Feb 15, 2020 |
seyimuyide: That's the NVC Welcome Letter. You now have an NVC Case Number. Log in, pay your fees ($120 for AOS and $325 for IV), and then wait for a few days before it's cleared. And then you upload ur Civil Documents and Financial Documents. Check this link out for steps to take. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/step-1-submit-a-petition/step-2-begin-nvc-processing.html And like Legitbachelor said, this is a Spousal Visa issue not Fiancée visa issue. So try check out those threads. Though one must confess those threads don't have as much info and active participation as this one has been over time. 1 Like |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Experienced R Programmer Needed Urgently On Part-time Basis by OrnamentOne: 9:59pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Newcomer123: Sorry, been busy. Proficiency in R is key. The number of years isn't too relevant. Expertise is key. |
Jobs/Vacancies / Experienced R Programmer Needed Urgently On Part-time Basis by OrnamentOne: 5:54pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
We're looking for an experienced R Programmer for statistical analysis of biological data. If you have a statistical and medical research background, it is a plus but not required. If you have experience with other statistical analytics software/programs or languages, it is also a plus. You must be very resourceful, an independent thinker, have a can-do-attitude and willing to go above and beyond to deliver quality results in a timely fashion. You will work with a Researcher, a Statistician and a Bioinformatician on team projects that require high-level programming skills. This is a part-time offer which requires working 20 hours weekly. You will be on probation the first one month after which, if retained based on your performance and knowledge, will be made permanent with a competitive annual salary, still part-time. If you come with knowledge, skills and ability for grant writing, research, and statistical analytics, after the probationary period, you will be made permanent with a much improved annual salary. Please, submit your cover letter and resume to info@fysatt.com. Visit us at www.fysatt.com for more information. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Tolu Ogunlesi Reacts As Bishop Oyedepo Speaks On ‘Dead’ Buhari by OrnamentOne: 9:10am On Dec 04, 2018 |
I wonder why you guys are asking why he didn't see it was a satire. Looks like you guys don't know that na for inside joke matter na im truth for dey come out. The writer of the said article in Tinubu's newspaper isn't being blamed if really he lied and aggravated things jokingly. He should have known that's an expensive joke, except of course, he feels there's some element of truth to it, hence the only way he could talk about this, or bring it to light was to infuse it into a satire. This being said, Oyedepo only asked for evidence clarifications from the real President or Presidency. The rumors should be addressed at source. Show doubters what they have asked to see, or else, the rumor will keep being alive. Address the message rather than the messenger. 2 Likes |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Business Development Officer Wanted In A Media Firm In Lagos by OrnamentOne: 3:44pm On Nov 14, 2018 |
Keep it simple. |
Jobs/Vacancies / Business Development Officer Wanted In A Media Firm In Lagos by OrnamentOne: 1:38pm On Nov 14, 2018 |
We are a dynamic integrated media production, marketing communications, publishing and consultancy company operating from Lagos, Nigeria. We require urgently the services of a Business Development Officer. As BDO, you will be responsible for bringing in new business for the company, especially our publishing division, which publishes a high-end lifestyle magazine. Duties and Responsibilities Identifying, qualifying, and securing business opportunities; coordinating business generation activities; developing customized targeted sales strategies Building business relationships with current and potential clients Understanding client needs and offering solutions and support; answering potential client questions and follow-up call questions; preparing proposals and sales letters, emails Collaborating with sales and leadership to secure, retain, and grow accounts Creating informative presentations; presenting and delivering information to potential clients at client meetings, industry exhibits, trade shows, and conferences Creating and maintaining a list/database of prospect clients; maintaining database of prospective client information Cold calling; making multiple outbound calls to potential clients; closing sales and working with client through closing process Meeting all quotas for cold, active, inactive calls, appointments, and interviews; meeting or exceeding annual sales goals. Collaborating with management on sales goals, planning, and forecasting; maintaining short- and long-term business development plans Requirements and Qualifications Experience with lead generation and prospect management Excellent verbal and written communication skills; the ability to call, connect, and interact with potential customers Persuasive and goal-oriented Possesses an energetic, outgoing, and friendly demeanor Able to professionally and confidently communicate with C-Level Executives Bachelors degree or equivalent Strong computer skills, including Microsoft Office Suite (Word, PowerPoint, Outlook, and Excel) Three years relevant work experience; in sales or marketing sales experience; knowledge of sales process from initiation to close Excellent analytical and time-management skills Demonstrated and proven sales results Ability to work independently or as an active member of a team How to Apply Interested candidates should please send their CV as well as a cover letter to info@ornamentmediang.com before close of work 23rd November, 2018. Females are encouraged to apply. |
Celebrities / Re: Fast-rising Nollywood Diva Chyleona Covers Shop In Naija Magazine! by OrnamentOne: 5:46pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Shopinnaija: Me likey! |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Advert Sales Executives Wanted In A Media Company (Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt) by OrnamentOne: 9:16am On Jan 26, 2018 |
Keep the applications coming. |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Post Abuja Jobs Here by OrnamentOne: 2:39pm On Jan 23, 2018 |
Advert sales executives are wanted in a media production and publishing company headquartered in Lagos. Positions are available for Lagos, Abuja and PH. Applicants should have at least two years experience in sales/marketing, and should possess a first degree. The position has to do with generating advert sales for one of our high end magazines as well as an infomercial radio show. The basic remuneration is attractive, and also includes commissions on income generated. Interested applicants should forward their CVs to ornamentmedialimited@gmail.com with a covering letter addressed to the Human Resources Manager, ORNAMENT MEDIA LIMITED. Application closes on the 31st January, 2018. |
Jobs/Vacancies / Advert Sales Executives Wanted In A Media Company (Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt) by OrnamentOne: 2:24pm On Jan 23, 2018 |
Advert sales executives are wanted in a media production and publishing company headquartered in Lagos. Positions are available for Lagos, Abuja and PH. Applicants should have at least two years experience in sales/marketing, and should possess a first degree. The position has to do with generating advert sales for one of our high end magazines as well as an infomercial radio show. The basic remuneration is attractive, and also includes commissions on income generated. Interested applicants should forward their CVs to ornamentmedialimited@gmail.com with a covering letter addressed to the Human Resources Manager, ORNAMENT MEDIA LIMITED. Application closes on the 31st January, 2018. |
Religion / Re: Living Faith Church To Construct Four Lane Express From Lafenwa To Ayobo by OrnamentOne: 11:27am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Statsocial: Pictures of the road being constructed since 2010? Please don't let blind admiration make you quote half truths or outright lies to the public as you end up doing more damage than good to the church in the long run. Any link that quotes an official statement from the church that they are building four-lane expressway from LAFENWA to AYOBO? If true, why has work been this slow? |
Religion / Re: Living Faith Church To Construct Four Lane Express From Lafenwa To Ayobo by OrnamentOne: 11:15am On Nov 24, 2017 |
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Religion / Re: Living Faith Church To Construct Four Lane Express From Lafenwa To Ayobo by OrnamentOne: 11:14am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Statsocial: So from 2011 till date - 2017 (6 years), nothing has been done, cos the 4-lane expressway is not visible on ground. YOU SAY OGUN STATE GOVT APPROVED IT IN 2014...THAT IS 3 YEARS ALREADY, AND STILL NOTHING ON GROUND. SO WHEN WILL THIS PROJECT SEE THE LIGHT OF THE DAY? 10 YEARS FROM NOW? ABI IT'S JUST PUBLICITY STUNT? THE CHURCH CAN EVEN DENY THIS CLAIM, SEEING THAT IT NEVER CAME FROM THEM OFFICIALLY. Mind you, what the church normally does is to grade some part of the OBASANJO FARM ROAD towards Jagba, WHEN SHILOH APPROACHES, but the roads immediately go bad months after, since it's just tractor grading, and nothing more. This is just Statsocial trying to blow the church's trumpet so hard, we need verifiable facts on ground first before believing this. The Canaan City Estate project has been going on for years now, but it's church project, when we see the four lane LAFENWA-AYOBO ROAD, we can start singing praises of the church in reality. Otherwise, what this post will do is more damage, as the government, would neglect the already very bad road, thinking that Living Faith Church is still coming to fix it. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Complete Truth About Tithes As Summarised By Pastor Reno Omokri by OrnamentOne: 10:11am On Nov 11, 2017 |
ObaFemy: If you get any revelation, it would be in giving your heart to God wholly, and with that, trust me, you can give much more than 10% to support God's work. It could be your own law, as God said he will put his law in our hearts and minds. It just doesn't have to be called tithes! And it shouldn't be under compulsion either, or with twisted scriptures the way it's done currently. 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Complete Truth About Tithes As Summarised By Pastor Reno Omokri by OrnamentOne: 10:07am On Nov 11, 2017 |
internationalman: Lol...no vex! |
Religion / Re: The Error Of Daddy Freeze . by OrnamentOne: 10:06am On Nov 11, 2017 |
petra1: Nowhere was it mentioned that Jacob gave tithes of all. He promised to do that, but we can't say categorically when he did it, or how he did it. Or how do you think he gave his tithes? Did Melchizedek appear again? How did Jacob pay his tithes? 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Error Of Daddy Freeze . by OrnamentOne: 9:56am On Nov 11, 2017 |
petra1:The first tithes you mentioned for the Levites. Who are the Levites today? Remember no where in scripture mentions Jesus receiving tithes, nor his disciples; and the early christians didn't pay tithes to their leaders either. Jesus was of the tribe of Judah, so he couldn't have collected tithes, only the Levites were mandated to do that because they had no inheritance of land. Also tithes then was never monetary, even though money existed then. Meaning the Israelites never paid tithes of money to the Levites, it was only of farm produce and livestock. The second tithe you mentioned (the Daddy Freeze beer boozing analogy), is not practiced today either. So why aren't churches nor pastors encouraging their flock to practice this type? Eat your tithes with your family (still farm produce or livestock, except the place you're to worship God with it is far, then use it to buy whatever your heart desires and eat, drink, flex), and the levites around you should partake of the merriment. It's clearly not today's kind of tithing either. The third tithe you mentioned, which is once every three years, is for the Levites, the strangers among you, the orphans/fatherless and the widows to feast on. And you don't have to take it anywhere, not the place God shall choose like the previous tithes. It is to be consumed within thy gates. Remember it is still Farm produce and livestock, not monetary, even though there was money those days. So in all, the total tithes the Israelites paid then was about 23.3%, and it was their own kind of tax system, cos Israel ran a Theocracy of some sort, where Priests ruled them. Abrahamic-Tithe (Pre-Mosaic Law) Abraham was only mentioned paying tithes once, and that once was never from his income. It was from war booty, which he didn't even partake of. To him it was clearly not his, he didn't even want those Kings he helped recover their loot toeven have a notion that part of the war booties was what made Abraham rich. Abraham was never mentioned to tithe anywhere else in scripture. So we can't jump on that either. [b]Paul's statements. [/b]Yes he said, those who preach the gospel should also live of the gospel. How those that correlate to them asking for tithes? Jesus had a treasurer in Judas, but he never collected tithes. He couldn't even have, cos he was from the tribe of Judah. The Pharisees would have added that to the list of what they were accusing him of. He sent his disciples out and they lacked nothing, but those disciples never collected tithes anywhere. Same with the early church, and apostles. The new testament preaches GIVING, but it has to be done willingly, and from a cheerful heart, to promote God's work. Using the collection of tithes to justify this is wrong. You can give any %...1%, 5%10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 80% even 100%, but please don't call it tithes! And using scriptures on tithes to justify this is even WORSE. The Macedonian church gave out of their poverty! It wasn't mentioned that because of that giving, that they became very wealthy afterwards. They were rich towards God, not material possessions. God is not a magician. He meets our needs, yes he blesses us, the principle of GIVING and RECEIVING is the same whether you give 1%, or 10% or 100%, give and it shall be given unto you, good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over, is what Jesus preached. He didn't preach Tithing. Remember he commended the old widow who gave her one mite, as the one whose giving was most precious cos she gave her all. God wants our heart, not our pocket. Let me rest my case here...it's becoming a long epistle already. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by OrnamentOne: 9:15am On Nov 11, 2017 |
kiddapunk: Read this long epistle below to get some understanding... THE COMPLETE TRUTH ABOUT TITHES as summarised by Reno Omokri The recent todo on the issue of tithing which was sparked up by popular On Air Personality, Daddy Freeze, is actually a sad reflection of the state of Christianity in Nigeria specifically and the Black world in general. Why? Because it proves that it is still true that if you want to hide anything from a Black man all you need to do is to put it in a book! If all those who have opined about this matter had cared to read about what The Holy Bible says about tithing, I am convinced that it would not have led to as big a controversy as it is today. So many people have spoken for and against tithing and the thing that bothers me most about their interventions is that it references their pastor, a certain sermon, their opinion or something they have heard. As a matter of fact, somebody commented that if only I read a certain book by David Yongi Cho, I would know that he (the commenter) was right in his opinion on tithing. On the issue of tithing as well as on any other ecclesiastical issue, there is only one reference point and that is The Bible. 2nd Timothy 3:16 says: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (KJV) This pretty much covers it. Any controversy about tithing must be settled by The Bible. The truth is that tithing as presently practiced by many churches, especially the so called Pentecostal or Evangelical churches, is unscriptural. Take away tithing and the attraction and motivation to be the founder and president of an ‘international ministry’ would disappear. The Bible actually warned us of such times as this in 1 Timothy 6:5-6. Constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain. (NIV) The truth is that tithing is an age old AGRICULTURAL practice that predated even Abraham and Moses. Ancient communities, including African communities, set aside a certain potion of their harvest (usually a tenth) and sacrificed it to their gods through his priests. Now the tithing that Moses taught about was instituted by the living God because the Levitical priests were not given a portion of the land of Canaan as an inheritance and as a result they were to be supported by their fellow brethren. Numbers 18:20-21 says: The Lord said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites.“ I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. (NIV) From the above it is clear that the tithes were specifically gifted by God to the Levites. You will never find anywhere in Scripture were God, His Son Jesus or the early apostles and disciples asked the New Testament church to pay tithes to pastors. Pastors do not replace Levites. In the New Testament, pastors worked and earned a living. They were not dependent on the church and the following verse proves it. I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions. In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.”-Acts 20:33-35. (NIV). The above was a farewell message from Paul who had pastored a church in Ephesus. I have been to Ephesus. I have been to the market where Paul had his tent making business. Neither Jesus, nor Paul nor any of the fathers of the early church collected any tithes from their congregation because they were not Levites who were prevented from doing any type of work other than temple service. Rather than tithing, the book of Acts teaches us in Acts 2:44-45 that the early Christians lived a communal life and shared EVERYTHING they had. All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Too often, pastors try to manipulate their congregation by quoting Malachi 3:8-10 “Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse—your whole NATION—because you are robbing me. Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. (NIV) I want my readers to note the words ‘NATION’ in the Scripture above. Scripture must be used to unlock Scripture. The above Scripture was directed to the NATION of Israel. This is clear from Malachi 3:6 “I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed” (NIV) The reason God said the Israelites were robbing Him is because, as I have proved above with Scripture, on their way to the promised land, God made a deal with them that He would not give the Levites a share of the land of Canaan so that they could focus on Him and the work of the Temple. In return the rest of the Israelites were to give God the tithes of their agricultural produce from the land He gave them and God in turn gave His tithes to the Levitical priesthood. It is funny that pastors who insist that Malachi’s verses on tithing must apply to them do not insist that other Old Testament provisions should also apply to them. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 commanded the ancient Israelites to stone their stubborn children to death. Are tithe receiving pastors then prepared to stone their own stubborn children to death because of that Biblical verse? Quoting an Old Testament verse to justify a New Testament life may appear hypocritical especially as Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our faith and His early disciples did not preach about tithing. Jesus talked about tithing only in passing while condemning the Pharisees. Pay your tithe if your conscience allows it, but don’t use Malachi to justify it. In the final analysis, I am not saying pay or don’t pay tithes. I am just presenting the facts as an ordained pastor. In fact, when the Pharisees insisted that the first Gentile converts to Christianity must be circumcised and keep the Mosaic Law, including tithing, the Council in Jerusalem overruled them and in Acts 15:19-20 gave only four commandments to the new Gentile believers and tithing was NOT one of those commandments. Jesus mentioned tithe once (in passing when admonishing the Pharisees) but He preached salvation over 100 times. Let our message in the church focus on Salvation not tithe! Abraham tithed. But He did not tithe to be blessed or that the devourer would be rebuked. In fact, the tithing that Abraham tithes was completely different from the tithing God commanded the Israelites to do. Abraham tithed from the goods he reclaimed from the kings he fought against. He did not tithe agricultural goods. Are those pastors who insist on collecting monetary tithes aware that money existed during the times of the ancient Israelites, yet God never told them to pay monetary tithes. He only requested for AGRICULTURAL tithes so the Levites who had no farms could eat. As a matter of fact, God told those Israelites who lived far away from the Temple not to even bother paying their agricultural tithes but to convert it to money and spend it on themselves. We see this in Deuteronomy 14:24-27: But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. Yes, Abraham tithed from his military victory but it does not mean that you must also tithe. Abraham had concubines. By the same logic, you should also have concubines. The point I am trying to make is that the faith of Abraham culminates in Christ and under Christ, there is no compulsion to tithe. God has given each of us a conscience and His Spirit. If you are led to tithe then tithe. If you are not, then don’t. But let him that tithes not look down on him that does not tithe and let him who does not tithe not hold those who do in contempt. Your salvation is dependent on your faith in Christ Jesus and not whether or not you tithe. You can make heaven if you believe but don’t tithe but not if you tithe and don’t believe. As a New Testament believer, what is required of you is a willing offering not a compulsory tithe. This is why 2 Corinthians 9:7 says: Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. We ought to understand that the biblical practice of tithing had two origins. The first was from Abraham, the prophet and patriarch and the other is the Mosaic Law. In Christ, both the tithing by the prophet and the law have been fulfilled hence in Matthew 5:17 Jesus said: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” So because of Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection, we do not need the Levitical priesthood as go betweens us and God since Jesus is “The Way, The Truth, and The Life.” (John 14:6) In the same way, we do not need Abraham’s blessings since God has blessed us “with every spiritual blessing in Christ.” (Ephesians 1:3). As a matter of fact, Colossians 2:10 teaches us that ‘we are complete in Christ’. So don’t let any pastor psyche you into believing that your worship of God is not complete until you have paid your tithe. #RenosNugget 5 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Complete Truth About Tithes As Summarised By Pastor Reno Omokri by OrnamentOne: 9:10am On Nov 11, 2017 |
mikejj: Giving a portion of your earning to support God's work is good and commendable. Invoking curses on those who don't is wrong. Calling what you give tithes, is wrong though? No tithe in scriptures was of monetary value. Give what you purpose to give, don't be cajoled into giving it, and better still, it isn't biblical tithes, so stop the error! I still commend any decision to give based on profound understanding, not ignorance. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Complete Truth About Tithes As Summarised By Pastor Reno Omokri by OrnamentOne: 8:51am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Adaowerri111: Lol, it's long but it's worth reading! Especially when it's coming from someone who is an ordained Pastor. Remember Apostle Suleiman said Freeze isn't qualified to talk about it because he is not a Pastor, lol...I wonder where that came from, if we are all sons of God, and have the same rights in God's presence. |
Religion / Re: The Complete Truth About Tithes As Summarised By Pastor Reno Omokri by OrnamentOne: 8:48am On Nov 11, 2017 |
So from Reno Omokri...who is an ordained Pastor, today's tithing isn't the way it should be. I wish true Pastors could come out to lend their voice to this misnomer that has become a mainstay in Christianity today. You can give anything...but please don't call it tithes! Cos the tithes of the scriptures isn't what we practice today. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) by OrnamentOne: 8:41am On Nov 11, 2017 |
THE COMPLETE TRUTH ABOUT TITHES as summarised by Reno Omokri The recent todo on the issue of tithing which was sparked up by popular On Air Personality, Daddy Freeze, is actually a sad reflection of the state of Christianity in Nigeria specifically and the Black world in general. Why? Because it proves that it is still true that if you want to hide anything from a Black man all you need to do is to put it in a book! If all those who have opined about this matter had cared to read about what The Holy Bible says about tithing, I am convinced that it would not have led to as big a controversy as it is today. So many people have spoken for and against tithing and the thing that bothers me most about their interventions is that it references their pastor, a certain sermon, their opinion or something they have heard. As a matter of fact, somebody commented that if only I read a certain book by David Yongi Cho, I would know that he (the commenter) was right in his opinion on tithing. On the issue of tithing as well as on any other ecclesiastical issue, there is only one reference point and that is The Bible. 2nd Timothy 3:16 says: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (KJV) This pretty much covers it. Any controversy about tithing must be settled by The Bible. The truth is that tithing as presently practiced by many churches, especially the so called Pentecostal or Evangelical churches, is unscriptural. Take away tithing and the attraction and motivation to be the founder and president of an ‘international ministry’ would disappear. The Bible actually warned us of such times as this in 1 Timothy 6:5-6. Constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain. (NIV) The truth is that tithing is an age old AGRICULTURAL practice that predated even Abraham and Moses. Ancient communities, including African communities, set aside a certain potion of their harvest (usually a tenth) and sacrificed it to their gods through his priests. Now the tithing that Moses taught about was instituted by the living God because the Levitical priests were not given a portion of the land of Canaan as an inheritance and as a result they were to be supported by their fellow brethren. Numbers 18:20-21 says: The Lord said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites.“ I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. (NIV) From the above it is clear that the tithes were specifically gifted by God to the Levites. You will never find anywhere in Scripture were God, His Son Jesus or the early apostles and disciples asked the New Testament church to pay tithes to pastors. Pastors do not replace Levites. In the New Testament, pastors worked and earned a living. They were not dependent on the church and the following verse proves it. I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions. In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.”-Acts 20:33-35. (NIV). The above was a farewell message from Paul who had pastored a church in Ephesus. I have been to Ephesus. I have been to the market where Paul had his tent making business. Neither Jesus, nor Paul nor any of the fathers of the early church collected any tithes from their congregation because they were not Levites who were prevented from doing any type of work other than temple service. Rather than tithing, the book of Acts teaches us in Acts 2:44-45 that the early Christians lived a communal life and shared EVERYTHING they had. All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Too often, pastors try to manipulate their congregation by quoting Malachi 3:8-10 “Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse—your whole NATION—because you are robbing me. Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. (NIV) I want my readers to note the words ‘NATION’ in the Scripture above. Scripture must be used to unlock Scripture. The above Scripture was directed to the NATION of Israel. This is clear from Malachi 3:6 “I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed” (NIV) The reason God said the Israelites were robbing Him is because, as I have proved above with Scripture, on their way to the promised land, God made a deal with them that He would not give the Levites a share of the land of Canaan so that they could focus on Him and the work of the Temple. In return the rest of the Israelites were to give God the tithes of their agricultural produce from the land He gave them and God in turn gave His tithes to the Levitical priesthood. It is funny that pastors who insist that Malachi’s verses on tithing must apply to them do not insist that other Old Testament provisions should also apply to them. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 commanded the ancient Israelites to stone their stubborn children to death. Are tithe receiving pastors then prepared to stone their own stubborn children to death because of that Biblical verse? Quoting an Old Testament verse to justify a New Testament life may appear hypocritical especially as Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our faith and His early disciples did not preach about tithing. Jesus talked about tithing only in passing while condemning the Pharisees. Pay your tithe if your conscience allows it, but don’t use Malachi to justify it. In the final analysis, I am not saying pay or don’t pay tithes. I am just presenting the facts as an ordained pastor. In fact, when the Pharisees insisted that the first Gentile converts to Christianity must be circumcised and keep the Mosaic Law, including tithing, the Council in Jerusalem overruled them and in Acts 15:19-20 gave only four commandments to the new Gentile believers and tithing was NOT one of those commandments. Jesus mentioned tithe once (in passing when admonishing the Pharisees) but He preached salvation over 100 times. Let our message in the church focus on Salvation not tithe! Abraham tithed. But He did not tithe to be blessed or that the devourer would be rebuked. In fact, the tithing that Abraham tithes was completely different from the tithing God commanded the Israelites to do. Abraham tithed from the goods he reclaimed from the kings he fought against. He did not tithe agricultural goods. Are those pastors who insist on collecting monetary tithes aware that money existed during the times of the ancient Israelites, yet God never told them to pay monetary tithes. He only requested for AGRICULTURAL tithes so the Levites who had no farms could eat. As a matter of fact, God told those Israelites who lived far away from the Temple not to even bother paying their agricultural tithes but to convert it to money and spend it on themselves. We see this in Deuteronomy 14:24-27: But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. Yes, Abraham tithed from his military victory but it does not mean that you must also tithe. Abraham had concubines. By the same logic, you should also have concubines. The point I am trying to make is that the faith of Abraham culminates in Christ and under Christ, there is no compulsion to tithe. God has given each of us a conscience and His Spirit. If you are led to tithe then tithe. If you are not, then don’t. But let him that tithes not look down on him that does not tithe and let him who does not tithe not hold those who do in contempt. Your salvation is dependent on your faith in Christ Jesus and not whether or not you tithe. You can make heaven if you believe but don’t tithe but not if you tithe and don’t believe. As a New Testament believer, what is required of you is a willing offering not a compulsory tithe. This is why 2 Corinthians 9:7 says: Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. We ought to understand that the biblical practice of tithing had two origins. The first was from Abraham, the prophet and patriarch and the other is the Mosaic Law. In Christ, both the tithing by the prophet and the law have been fulfilled hence in Matthew 5:17 Jesus said: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” So because of Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection, we do not need the Levitical priesthood as go betweens us and God since Jesus is “The Way, The Truth, and The Life.” (John 14:6) In the same way, we do not need Abraham’s blessings since God has blessed us “with every spiritual blessing in Christ.” (Ephesians 1:3). As a matter of fact, Colossians 2:10 teaches us that ‘we are complete in Christ’. So don’t let any pastor psyche you into believing that your worship of God is not complete until you have paid your tithe. #RenosNugget 37 Likes 6 Shares |
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THE COMPLETE TRUTH ABOUT TITHES as summarised by Reno Omokri The recent todo on the issue of tithing which was sparked up by popular On Air Personality, Daddy Freeze, is actually a sad reflection of the state of Christianity in Nigeria specifically and the Black world in general. Why? Because it proves that it is still true that if you want to hide anything from a Black man all you need to do is to put it in a book! If all those who have opined about this matter had cared to read about what The Holy Bible says about tithing, I am convinced that it would not have led to as big a controversy as it is today. So many people have spoken for and against tithing and the thing that bothers me most about their interventions is that it references their pastor, a certain sermon, their opinion or something they have heard. As a matter of fact, somebody commented that if only I read a certain book by David Yongi Cho, I would know that he (the commenter) was right in his opinion on tithing. On the issue of tithing as well as on any other ecclesiastical issue, there is only one reference point and that is The Bible. 2nd Timothy 3:16 says: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (KJV) This pretty much covers it. Any controversy about tithing must be settled by The Bible. The truth is that tithing as presently practiced by many churches, especially the so called Pentecostal or Evangelical churches, is unscriptural. Take away tithing and the attraction and motivation to be the founder and president of an ‘international ministry’ would disappear. The Bible actually warned us of such times as this in 1 Timothy 6:5-6. Constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain. (NIV) The truth is that tithing is an age old AGRICULTURAL practice that predated even Abraham and Moses. Ancient communities, including African communities, set aside a certain potion of their harvest (usually a tenth) and sacrificed it to their gods through his priests. Now the tithing that Moses taught about was instituted by the living God because the Levitical priests were not given a portion of the land of Canaan as an inheritance and as a result they were to be supported by their fellow brethren. Numbers 18:20-21 says: The Lord said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites.“ I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. (NIV) From the above it is clear that the tithes were specifically gifted by God to the Levites. You will never find anywhere in Scripture were God, His Son Jesus or the early apostles and disciples asked the New Testament church to pay tithes to pastors. Pastors do not replace Levites. In the New Testament, pastors worked and earned a living. They were not dependent on the church and the following verse proves it. I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions. In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.”-Acts 20:33-35. (NIV). The above was a farewell message from Paul who had pastored a church in Ephesus. I have been to Ephesus. I have been to the market where Paul had his tent making business. Neither Jesus, nor Paul nor any of the fathers of the early church collected any tithes from their congregation because they were not Levites who were prevented from doing any type of work other than temple service. Rather than tithing, the book of Acts teaches us in Acts 2:44-45 that the early Christians lived a communal life and shared EVERYTHING they had. All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Too often, pastors try to manipulate their congregation by quoting Malachi 3:8-10 “Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse—your whole NATION—because you are robbing me. Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. (NIV) I want my readers to note the words ‘NATION’ in the Scripture above. Scripture must be used to unlock Scripture. The above Scripture was directed to the NATION of Israel. This is clear from Malachi 3:6 “I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed” (NIV) The reason God said the Israelites were robbing Him is because, as I have proved above with Scripture, on their way to the promised land, God made a deal with them that He would not give the Levites a share of the land of Canaan so that they could focus on Him and the work of the Temple. In return the rest of the Israelites were to give God the tithes of their agricultural produce from the land He gave them and God in turn gave His tithes to the Levitical priesthood. It is funny that pastors who insist that Malachi’s verses on tithing must apply to them do not insist that other Old Testament provisions should also apply to them. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 commanded the ancient Israelites to stone their stubborn children to death. Are tithe receiving pastors then prepared to stone their own stubborn children to death because of that Biblical verse? Quoting an Old Testament verse to justify a New Testament life may appear hypocritical especially as Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our faith and His early disciples did not preach about tithing. Jesus talked about tithing only in passing while condemning the Pharisees. Pay your tithe if your conscience allows it, but don’t use Malachi to justify it. In the final analysis, I am not saying pay or don’t pay tithes. I am just presenting the facts as an ordained pastor. In fact, when the Pharisees insisted that the first Gentile converts to Christianity must be circumcised and keep the Mosaic Law, including tithing, the Council in Jerusalem overruled them and in Acts 15:19-20 gave only four commandments to the new Gentile believers and tithing was NOT one of those commandments. Jesus mentioned tithe once (in passing when admonishing the Pharisees) but He preached salvation over 100 times. Let our message in the church focus on Salvation not tithe! Abraham tithed. But He did not tithe to be blessed or that the devourer would be rebuked. In fact, the tithing that Abraham tithes was completely different from the tithing God commanded the Israelites to do. Abraham tithed from the goods he reclaimed from the kings he fought against. He did not tithe agricultural goods. Are those pastors who insist on collecting monetary tithes aware that money existed during the times of the ancient Israelites, yet God never told them to pay monetary tithes. He only requested for AGRICULTURAL tithes so the Levites who had no farms could eat. As a matter of fact, God told those Israelites who lived far away from the Temple not to even bother paying their agricultural tithes but to convert it to money and spend it on themselves. We see this in Deuteronomy 14:24-27: But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. Yes, Abraham tithed from his military victory but it does not mean that you must also tithe. Abraham had concubines. By the same logic, you should also have concubines. The point I am trying to make is that the faith of Abraham culminates in Christ and under Christ, there is no compulsion to tithe. God has given each of us a conscience and His Spirit. If you are led to tithe then tithe. If you are not, then don’t. But let him that tithes not look down on him that does not tithe and let him who does not tithe not hold those who do in contempt. Your salvation is dependent on your faith in Christ Jesus and not whether or not you tithe. You can make heaven if you believe but don’t tithe but not if you tithe and don’t believe. As a New Testament believer, what is required of you is a willing offering not a compulsory tithe. This is why 2 Corinthians 9:7 says: Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. We ought to understand that the biblical practice of tithing had two origins. The first was from Abraham, the prophet and patriarch and the other is the Mosaic Law. In Christ, both the tithing by the prophet and the law have been fulfilled hence in Matthew 5:17 Jesus said: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” So because of Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection, we do not need the Levitical priesthood as go betweens us and God since Jesus is “The Way, The Truth, and The Life.” (John 14:6) In the same way, we do not need Abraham’s blessings since God has blessed us “with every spiritual blessing in Christ.” (Ephesians 1:3). As a matter of fact, Colossians 2:10 teaches us that ‘we are complete in Christ’. So don’t let any pastor psyche you into believing that your worship of God is not complete until you have paid your tithe. #RenosNugget 1 Like |
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