₦airaland Forum

I read somewhere that prior to the 19th century only a handful of people we refer to as Yorubas right now actually called themselves Yorubas and there were some ethnic groups within our present day Yorubaland that'll fight you if you dared call them Yorubas.

dayokanu:
No need for those surgeries.

Come to me all ye Hymenless generation for laying of hands and I would restore your lost glory.
I need to certify the extent of damage before knowing what steps to take to your restoration.

Some peoples region are so damaged we might need to mould concrete on the path to restore them while some just need nylon or feathers to restore them

ROFL
Prophet Dayo
Should they bring pigeons too and meet you dressed in white along bar beach?

and what does this have to do with the Christianity

Submitted by Meg Wilson on February 26, 2008 - 12:58.
Supermodel Naomi Campbell, age 37, is right now resting in a hospital in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Yesterday she underwent a four and a half surgery there. Was it some kind of plastic surgery? Brazil is famous for their excellence and expertise in cosmetic surgery but most Americans who chose to go there are doing it partly to save on the medical costs. That wouldn't be Naomi Campbell's concern.

After gossip started circulating on the internet that she was having surgery in Brazil, her agent issued a statement to dispel the rumors and said Campbell was there to have a small cyst removed.

We're not sure how long it takes to have a small cyst removed. But apparently her surgery lasted 4 1/2 hours. The Sirio Libanes hospital where she is staying is renowned for their plastic surgery expertise and provides a detailed list of the plastic surgeries they perform there. They also note the time involved for each operation. An abdominoplasty takes four hours of operating time. Liposuction takes between 3 and 6 hours. Breast implants take four hours and a facelift is approximately 5 hours in the operating room.

You see why the three major tribes in Nigeria should get together and do away with these minorities
They're always causing problems.

tpia:
I said why was it reported that they fear that label the most. These are the kind of attitudes that create agnostics and atheists.

I'll speak of a story I've heard of.
There was a young girl who fell in love with this rich man from a neighbouring town.
While they did  an investigation prior to the marriage, it was determined that the young man was said to be "osu".
The brides parents and siblings had no problems with it, they are Christians ,catholics and they decided to proceed but an uncle of theirs opposed the wedding vehemently and went as far as writing a letter to the council of chiefs in their town expressing his opposition and stating that him and his immediate family have absolutely nothing to do with the wedding and will not be tainted with the osu stigma because his younger brother willingly gave his daughter to an "osu"
He and no member of his immediate family attended the traditional or church wedding.
It took almost a decade for the uncle to come around to accepting this young man as an inlaw.
This uncle (who opposed the wedding)is a knight in the Church
That is the mentality.
It is driven by fear of what others will say
But these bigots forget that they are actually the ones fanning the flame of this injustice.

pres-elect:
then perhaps you can go and get an osu to speak on that issue

this whole discussion of osu issue by our emergency osu experts is just another igbo bashing ploy , not only are they not offering tangible solutions, they are intentionally being confrontational and judgemental with the intention to bash, accuse, and abuse the igbos. . . . perhaps we deserve it, for what our ancestors did, but the aim of this discussion is to igbobash . . . i understand no stress, . . . .

but for the igbos, dont let guilt complex enter you, unless you are racist or prejudicial. any igbo guy here who discriminates against his/her fellow igbo or indeed anybody whatsoever . . .shame on you , but if you are liberal, accept your fellow human being as he/she is, dont go about looking for whom to call one name or the other, then you have nothing to worry about. it's great to be igbo be proud.

if you are osu, dont tell me, tell no one, be happy, be proud, b/c you are igbo too.

if you want to marry and the osu thing is in the way, decide. . . will you damn ur family and marry or will you sell out ur rlshp? hard decision, but u must choose one, and stand by it. . . . . . . . proudly. if you are osu and u are rejected in marriage, . . pity . . . but dont despair . . . . get another partner . . . it may even be better than the former, smile and move on.

@all nigerians . . . .

best wishes from the igbos

You put it nicely.
ka Jehova mezie okwu.
I have interacted with thousands of Igbos in my lifetime and this is a question I've never asked anyone and don't care to know who is called what.
Igbo n'ile bu ofu
Ndi a goziri agozi k'anyi bu
Igbo kwezuonu!

JustGood:
This is the kind of thing that also gets to me. You are trying to paint a picture of a re-curring occurence. I could go back and bring you the number of such cases that have happened in the UK in the last 20 years but I dont have the time to prove such things. I will never belittle the pain that anyone goes through - I have seen people go through pain(believe me when I say that) and I cant imagine what it feels like. What I dont understand is the need to make it more than it actually is. Adequate presentation does not have to equate inflated and bogus claims.

I take it you're joking here. I am british and I have seen these things myself - how many of those veiled girls do you think are forced to wear them? Or perhaps you think they should not have the right to practice their own religion. . . because that's what makes most of them do it.

Perhaps I used the wrong expression but my point is that the same way the woman wants to dance to the tunes of a conceited man by becoming a fake virgin is the same way a promiscuous man dances to his wife's tunes by pretending to be a good husband.

Even one woman being killed for not bleeding on her wedding night is one too many.
I wholeheartedly support this surgery
wayo meet wayo

Brazil is the plastic surgery capital of the world
go to their beaches
You think those girls with firm breasts and perky boobs after 7 kids are all natural

tpia:
from this website, it seems Christians are the ones who fear the osu label the most. And who help propagate it.

Why is that so?

You can also answer that question
Over 95 % of Igbos are said to be Christian doesn't that make natural sense that some of the opposition is from the so called Christians?

Negro_Ntns:
Lmao.

Osisi, not only are the freeborns unwilling to discuss the issues with the Osus but you are also not willing to give answers to the questions from curious outsiders.
Ask any question in NL about Yoruba customs and at minimum you will find one or few of us that will give answer to it. It's dishonest for every Igbo to say I dont know what happened, there are inconsistent accounts about it and it's best left alone and not addressed. But its funny that in 2009 the problem has not stopped and nor is there inconsistency in the way an osu is maligned by the culture and traditions of his/her own people.

Generally, what is there to fear in answering the questions?

what answers do you want I ask again.
The internet is filled with tons and tons of information about osu with various acounts of how it all started.
Isn't it common knowledge that your forefathers and mine had no written doumentations and that most African history was passed down orally.
Do you know the history of your Yoruba tribe?
doesn't an account have it that oduduwa was thrown down from the sky by some god,now does that sound reasonable to any outsider?
Nobody is saying the issue should be left alone,at least I'm not.
It's continually being discussed and has been discussed extensively and laws have been passed to make it criminal to label anyone an osu and discriminate against them.
If laws worked in your country and mine,it would be a thing of the past.
Osu is an ugly tradition and no one is defending it.
You don't meet a fellow Igbo man say in Lagos or Aba and suspect his family is labelled osu even if you knew his hometown.
Only people from those areas know those details and most times those issues come up when people are getting married and the families insist on "asking questions".
I have said personally that I know not one person that's called an osu and on the other threads where this topic has been discussed there are several who have said the same thing because not all villages have it and people who live in cities and hardly go home are more likely not to know any.
Like most Igbos,we don't sit around with our families pointing out who osus are.
We have our village associations here in the USA and people don't sit pointing finger at each other wondering what they are.
Things are a million times better in that regard than during the times of my forefathers when people lived in village communities.
There are intermarriages going on amongst the so called osus and freeborns despite oppositions.
A lot of people have gone beyond that stupidity
But naturally there will always be people like in any culture that'll hold on to some traditions (good or bad) till their dying day.
I hope your silly questions have been answered.

The birth of John the Baptist is in the Bible
what does the Koran say about him?
what was his mission?
who did he baptize in the Koran since you can't be a baptist without baptizing someone
or did the goat under aisha's bed eat that part of the koran too?

The Baptism.

Matthew 3

John the Baptist Prepares the Way
1(A) In those days(B) John the Baptist came preaching in(C) the wilderness of Judea, 2(D) "Repent, for(E) the kingdom of heaven is at hand." 3For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah when he said,

(F) "The voice of one crying in the wildernessG) 'Prepare[a] the way of the Lord;
make his paths straight.'"
4Now John wore(H) a garment of camel’s hair and a leather belt around his waist, and his food was(I) locusts and(J) wild honey. 5Then Jerusalem and all Judea and all the region about the Jordan were going out to him, 6and they were baptized by him in the river Jordan,(K) confessing their sins.

7But when he saw many of(L) the Pharisees and(M) Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them,(N) "You brood of(O) vipers! Who warned you to flee from(P) the wrath to come? 8Bear fruit(Q) in keeping with repentance. 9And do not presume to say to yourselves,(R) 'We have Abraham as our father,' for I tell you, God is able from(S) these stones to raise up children for Abraham. 10Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees.(T) Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

11(U) "I baptize you with water(V) for repentance, but(W) he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you(X) with the Holy Spirit and(Y) fire. 12His(Z) winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and(AA) gather his wheat into the barn,(AB) but the chaff he will burn with(AC) unquenchable fire."

The Baptism of Jesus
13(AD) Then Jesus came(AE) from Galilee to the Jordan to John, to be baptized by him. 14(AF) John would have prevented him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?" 15But Jesus answered him, "Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he consented. 16And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold,(AG) the heavens were opened to him,[b] and he(AH) saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him; 17and behold,(AI) a voice from heaven said,(AJ) "This is my beloved Son,[c] with whom I am well pleased."

olabowale:
I thought the question that needed to be answered is "who anoited" Jesus after John Baptized him? Was that anointer worthy of worship ahead and above Jesus, since Jesus couldn't have anoited himslef? If he anoited himself, I wonder why he didn't baptise himslef, instead of John doing it, since John was not elevated or gained any status by it?

have you shelved your Bible like your Koran?
why don't you read the birth and purpose of John the Baptist as it relates to Jesus

Negro_Ntns:
Pritti,

I think you asked a very valid question when you stated the following quote and I thought someone would answer it, . . .

Anyone care to answer?

what do you really want to hear?
Tell me and I'll say it 3 times

olabs I asked a simple question.
show me the scripture where children of God go to a lake of fire
very simple question
open your Bible na

*Hauwa*:
Ndipe, wetin you smoke

abi it is the power of second hand hymen?

Nickel titanium hymen

stillwater:
They've reduced women to liars and cheats

and themselves to mugus
If Igbos were crazy about this hymen thing the brides family will profit heavily
If the bride price was $3,000,virgins will start from $10,000  

Ndipe:
Yes, it's very RUDE infact, you should be repartriated to your homeland. Why should you speak your language openly, instead of covering your mouth and muttering it in very muffling tones? Only English Language needs to be spoken PUBLICLY. Our native language should be spoken BEHIND closed doors, and even then, mixed with English Language.

KarmaMod:
Lmao that girl must be making mad money

Promise virginity to some insecure slowpoke and make him pay hefty sum, leave and do the same to another

3 times eh? Smart chic

some have taken it to a whole 'nother level.
hymen without end

*Hauwa*:
they have soiled the Holy Book

those women in   are not that holy

say what?

bless the new hymen and it becomes holy

Mai Suya:
kai! six pages over an igbo VC. this is more seroius than I thot. . . .

Igbokwenu! Maka gini Ndigbo there are no lepers in southern Niaja! up you. myopic SAOB

how do I know you're not typing with a pen clenched in between your gworo teeth

but that third woman is dangerous o
so she hides her former marriages too?

Girl #3 : eeff,  I’m wasting my time with you two cheapskates, I’m virgin as a solid rock. This is the third time I’m getting married and for the last two times, my wedding night jut turned into a nightmare ending up with two men having their arrows broken against my wall! After all, I had paid 20,000 DHS to get a handcrafted platinum plate fixed up there!!

You go gurl!

found this online at a Dubai site


A discussion at somewhere not far from Mall of Emirates :

Girl #1: I’m still a Virgin since 45 minutes ago until 15:30 this afternoon. With 500 Dhs, this is the best doctors could do for me.

Gilr #2 : O’, my…god, I’m still a virgin since last week. I’m planning a marriage this weekend. Are you crazy? I had the groom’s family pay 5000Dhs for it!!

Girl #3 : eeff, I’m wasting my time with you two cheapskates, I’m virgin as a solid rock. This is the third time I’m getting married and for the last two times, my wedding night jut turned into a nightmare ending up with two men having their arrows broken against my wall! After all, I had paid 20,000 DHS to get a handcrafted platinum plate fixed up there!!

KarmaMod:
what is vono bed?

Richy just because she "resists" vaginal sex doesnt mean she's not getting it in the back.

One of the reasons why I found that "award for Nigerian virgins" article hilariously sad.

some old bed with springs  most popular way back in secondary school boarding houses.

spoilt:
Destroy the back and save the front. Smart. real smart!

ROFL
backstreet gals

RichyBlacK:
You make a point here though.

It's common knowledge that those women where the hymen is glorified are experts in oral and anal
but that's beyond the scope of this thread

Moyola:
. . . . Crazy!

Why would a sane person risk such surgery for a '30 second gift'?

And the 'ode, olorikori, o lojukokoro' husband will really think he disvirgined his wife! O mase o!

Forward ever; backward never! as the saying goes, This IMO is a backward thing to do. . . . does this really mean a woman has more worth if she's a virgin?

[b]On the other hand, For those who would be left with the choices of doing the surgery or having her throat slit open on her wedding night, I'd suggest she opt for the surgery. [/b]Uhhmn!

everywoman in those "honor killing regions" should start saving up for this surgery from the day they're born.
Their mothers must open "Hymen  accounts" on their behalf
It will save lives

spoilt:
he would have thought the chicken was for a palatable dinner.

To celebrate the hymen na

RichyBlacK:
Tufiakwa!

I want clean blood , not dirty smelly chicken blood!

how will you know
most women freshen up and spray perfumes before the do
You won't smell anything else but chanel no 5

RichyBlacK:
Osisi, stop making "Jerusalem" sound/feel/look/smell so dirty!!! Chicken blood? Aargghhhh .

Richy ,no be the thing una want?
You must see that blood whether you like it or not
chicken o
goat o
blood na blood

spoilt:
@ Osisi You had a vono bed?  

My sister i know someone who had sex with a dude on the last day of her period. Dude was jumping up and down celebrating her hymen.  

LOL@ vono bed
Women are smart I tell ya