₦airaland Forum

fayahsoul:
Where my true natural nubian sistas at!

I can't see you!

KarmaMod:
probably dating a Kwanzaa obsessed akata.

milknhoney:
Seriously I'm starting to believe the Original Poster is a Born-Again African.
I mean who seriously preaches about {Nubian} this and {Nubian} that.
Who is this {Nubian} anyway??
He is obviously a proclaimed (westerner) trying to get in touch back with his {African} roots.
Nubian ko, [i](old)[/i]bian ni.

tope2000:
Rubbish thread
It ought to be locked

UNLEASHED:
@Gamine
This ain't about going around in your birthday suit, it's about imitating, making use of artificials to look hmmm

we don't care if you grow your bia bia to 1 foot,we don't care if you grow out your sideburns like a castrated chia pet.We don't even care whether you have a pot belly,or receeding hair line, we just won't date you

DavidDylan:
fayahsoul, is your "wife" white?

don't worry, you're no longer in the minority so please leave our sisters and their hair alone.

Men and Brethren,

I am very disturbed.  I am also very sad.  I followed this thread from post #1.  I have been very reluctant to say something in here for a number of reasons:

- I made a choice to be of blessing to people I come across and not a stumbling block
- I am careful not to dissuade others, since many people read one’s contributions
- Not wanting the name of Christ to be ridiculed, which the thread could potentially degenerate into
- I abhor arguments, especially the types that lead nowhere
- Hoping the issues raised will be addressed objectively
- Don’t want to be labelled ‘an accuser of the brethren’


However, having read up till now and seeing the way my brethren tend to divert issues and rather discuss/defend persons, I became very disturbed indeed.  Let me state here before I am wrongly accused, that:

- I am a believer (born-again, spirit-filled, tongue-talking. . .) and I believe in miracles, the healing ministry and manifestations of the Spirit
- I have ministered healings on people and have received healings/miracles myself by others’ ministrations
- I have been blessed by some of Pator Chris' teachings (and he can teach!)
- I see CE members as my brethren too, having the same heavenly Father (I am not a member of CE).

Knowing fully well that every idle word I speak will be accounted for, I speak therefore with every sense of responsibility.

SirJohn brought an issue up, backed up with strong evidences which can stand to any scrutiny in any court of law.  He supplied eye witness accounts (both his and his sick friend), names of those involved (including pastors, staff, workers of CE Healing school), pictures of people he saw during the healing sessions he attended as captured in the CE Magazine, other evidences including pictures from South Africa (also from the magazine) evidently showing a lady pictured using two different wheelchairs on the same day and captioned as ‘the wheelchair that has carried her all her life’.

Reading objectively as a Christian, this tales are too vivid to be fabricated and very disturbing to say the least, especially with the pictures (from CE source) corroborating his accounts.  Please my brethren from CE, take some minutes to read his accounts and check the pictures and links objectively and sincerely.  These things should make every Christian sad if true.  The poster is not saying miracles are not real, but he gave what could be exhibits of deliberate deception, mis-information, stage-management and hypocrisy!

A colleague of mine narrated how he saw a neighbour of his (who could talk and hear) on TV in one of those ‘Atmosphere for Miracles’ meetings posing as a deaf and dumb being ministered unto.  When he confronted him after he came back, he was told he was paid for it!  On the other hand, a woman testified in my church (not CE) how she got her healing in CE Healing School.  Even Jesus could not perform miracles in certain places like Nazareth.  

If someone was healed during a healing session why not say so?  If the healing took place before hands were laid, why present it as make-belief before a live audience?  Does it make the healing any more authentic?  If someone could walk before (according to SirJohn’s account) why put him/her on a wheelchair (s)he didn’t come with, only to be recorded as being crippled on that same wheelchair all their lives?  And if it happens the person didn’t get his/her healing, why make the public believe so?  It is this alleged deception that is the crux of this thread and not belief in miracles!  Ananaias and Saphirra paid dearly for deception with their own lives.  It is that serious to the Holy Spirit.

Without being presumptuous, I must say the responses from CE members have been disappointing.  The poster made it clear he is a Christian, believed in miracles, is a member of CE and also a financial partner and has been under Pastor Chris’ ministry.  Why then go ahead to attack his person instead of addressing the issues he raised? He doesn’t appear to have any reason to lie and discredit a ministry he is a member of if he hasn’t seen and witnessed certain things that are disturbing to him.  Also, he made it clear he has tried severally to raise it up with the hierarchy of CE but rebuffed, hence his decision to go public.

I understand the fact that we all have duties to defend our pastors and ministries (after all Peter tried to defend Jesus when he was being arrested), but does this mean they should not stand up to scrutiny?  Even when what appears to be concrete evidences of deception (or half-truth at best) are being brought up?

Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our Faith was examined and found blameless:

Luke 23:13-14 Pilate summoned the chief priests and the rulers and the people, and said to them, "You brought this man to me as one who incites the people to rebellion, and behold, having examined Him before you, I have found no guilt in this man regarding the charges which you make against Him.

John 14:30 "I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me;

Therefore it behooves us as followers of the Master to be blameless too when scrutinized:

Phil 2:14-15 Do all things without grumbling or disputing; so that you will prove yourselves to be blameless and innocent, children of God above reproach in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you appear as lights in the world,

Titus 1:7 Because an overseer is God's servant manager, he must be blameless. He must not be arrogant or irritable. He must not drink too much, be a violent person, or make money in shameful ways.

Brethren, instead of faith-speak let’s examine the things being brought up and refute the evidences if untrue.  This way we prove ourselves.  And if they are things we have no answer against, it is golden to say so or maintain silence.  I believe as followers of Christ, we shouldn’t be afraid of being tested/examined if we know those things we are being accused of are not true.

Sigh!  Lord, purge Your church.

tangent:
let us hope it alleviates poverty while they are it. people are hungry and we r focusing on child witches. the last before the first in my opinion.

tangent:
u have hit the nail on the head, bro. they are so blind to their own drunkeness, casual sex, thuggery, violence and drug abuse.

Ifygurl:
One thing i don't get

Isn't child marriages something thats been in Africa since the beginning of time?

I mean i don't condone it but isn't Child Marriage an African tradition?

I know how much we all love to insult Sharia law(i do too) but they didn't start this, its something that's been in our nation since the beginning of time.
Our ancestors praticed that and they never saw it as a bad thing, we see it as a bad thing now because white people see it as a bad thing.

The Child witches was a Good story and something Nigerians needed to see for us to stop
but this Child marriage is just a waste of time cause i bet you this is not just in the North; if you go anywhere in the South to any village (not the city but villages), you'll see a grownass man married to a child.
Unless that kid was dragged and forced to marry that man then by all mean report that but if she wasn't forced to marry him then what does it matter.

A better story is how a grown ass woman marries a man just because her parents forced her to do so(something that seems to happening in Africa(not just in Nigeria)). That's a better story.

KarmaMod:
Rofl

Can you imagine how disgusting this dude smells? A chic with a weave must have turned him down during his stinky "toasting" hence the angry thread

Your duty isnt to harass woman for what they put on their heads, it's for you to take English classes and work on your grammar. Olodo elede.

fayahsoul:
I just doing my duty. It's just like saying that same-sex marraiges should be legalized because some people don't want natural relationships. Freedom is good but there has to be some limitations to maintain order. The hair of a woman is a glory unto hair and she must handle it with honour. Self hate is contagious and cyclical. Self-hating nubians breed a generation lacking confidence in their abilities.



It has everything to do with a subconscious yearning to be white and feel acceptable, your just not aware of it consciously because you are living a lie. Many guys(like me) maintain a full set of natural hair without complaints. Why is the case of our females different? Are perms and extentions really easier to handle? The pain, time, money and energy expended on frequent trips to the salon is not a problem to you but keeping an afro or dreadlock is just impossible huh. What about keeping a low cut rather than burning your scalp and exposing your system to toxins?


And the question remains: why does fake straight hair make most nubian sistas feel confident?


If what i say makes any sista insecure then they need to search their souls for the source of that insecurity.

Thanx for your post.

Any item that is a potential health risk should be left alone. I have stopped using deodorants since i noticed that it does in fact exacerbate body odour and is also detrimental to the skin cells in the arm pits(perharps a result of altered sweat glands as you mentioned).
I came to realize that there is a method to everything; if you use the proper method to bath and brush your teeth you will overstand that deodorants and teeth whiteners are not necessary. Same goes for shaving, if it is done with the proper method there won't be a scratch on your face. Besides i don't think men should shave, they should just trim their beards.

Kenezi:
UK seems to be in love with Nigeria's bad side suddenly.

DavidDylan:
no applicants?
Osisi nobody trust you to give the money o.

Cipriani:
@osisi

The BEST and I say the BEST candidate is me. I stay at lagos road in Ikorodu, Lagos state. I was born and

bred in lagos. I am the first born out of a family of nine, i.e. seven siblings. 1 boy and six girls. I really need the money

to buy a bag of rice for my family at the christmas period. And part of it to buy IPOD. You can

contact me directly through my email. And when you come to Ikorodu, I will be there waiting to collect my money ($100

or more). Only you and you only should check my profile for my picture, you will see that I am in the classroom in

school.

As for the internet, I use free browsing because I no get money to spend for cybercafe.

I know that he does not fully trust me.  We met for the purpose, through a friend, just for papers.  But have been serisouly dating since we met.  He wants to have sex badly, as do I, but we have made a promise to wait for marriage.
Besides that I am not sure that his love that he states for me is true.  How good is a Yorba's mans word.  He has promised to never lie to me but I am not sure this is true.  I know that he treats me very well and is very romantic. Althou all of this may be because of the papers.

Any tell tell signs i can look for in him to really figure out what is going on.  between the deal from the start was no sex before even laying eyes on him but after meeting, talking and dating things have changed for me.

Sista

KarmaMod:
You know if a person is going to give so much about themselves/life on NL, they should remember that some of us have excellent memory

Jus' saying