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HesInMe:Ellah Lakes is undoubtedly an old company, but their venture into farming is a recent development. As far as I know, all startups burn through cash—sometimes for years. Yes, it’s a high-risk move, but given the current value of the agricultural sector, failure would be quite difficult. They've acquired land—that’s a fact. They've raised some capital—also a fact. They have palm seedlings worth over 700 million naira. How many palm trees would that translate to? They also have a strong team. You want to see revenue first? That’s fine—you can wait. But some people believe that by the time the kind of revenue you’re waiting for begins to show, the share price may have already multiplied. That’s why they’re buying in at this early stage. Isn’t that a reasonable approach? |
HesInMe:Is the book value not included in the recent financials? Alright, since you’re asking, it’s approximately 20.8 billion naira. Now, what else do you need?
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Mankind2024:@Mankind2024, they do hold AGMs, right? Have you attended one before? I believe you’ll find the answers to your questions at such an event. |
yMcy56:Madam, which other you think fit do like Oando? |
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emmanuelewumi:Go to the person's profile page and select 'Block this user.' Don’t forget to block me—it doesn’t matter to me. I no send anybody. Lol. |
Agbalowomeri:Guy, no be you dey do what if analysis, make I follow u do small nah, no vex. |
crownprince2017:Some people are looking for the addresses of farms owned by a publicly traded company. Lol, isn’t the address public? Don’t they hold AGMs like everyone else? Have they ever attended one? They keep asking for the location—okay, we’ll tell them when the time is right. ![]() |
Agbalowomeri:Too many 'what ifs'—what if a rocket bound for Lebanon misses its target and falls on your head? ![]() |
starpower:Can you kindly provide evidence that biofuel applications account for more than 10% of global palm oil usage? Sectoral Breakdown and Disruption Effects 1. Food Sector (65–70%) Who uses it: FMCGs like Nestlé, Unilever, PepsiCo; bakeries, cooking oil processors. Disruption impact: High sensitivity: A major disruption (e.g., food processing recession or anti-palm oil regulations in the EU) significantly affects prices. Sustainability backlash could shift demand to alternatives (sunflower/soybean oil), pressuring margins. 2. Industrial/Non-Food (20–25%) Who uses it: Soap and detergent manufacturers, candle makers, lubricant producers. Disruption impact: Moderate impact: This demand is stable, especially in emerging markets like Africa and South Asia. Recessions here affect purchasing power but not dramatically. Upside: New natural product trends can increase demand. 3. Biofuels (5–10%) Who uses it: EU, Indonesia, Malaysia—use in biodiesel blending. Disruption impact: Volatile: Policy-driven (e.g., EU Green Deal phase-out of palm-based biodiesel by 2030). High impact per unit: Though small in volume, the biodiesel sector consumes cheap, crude palm oil, helping clear surplus and supporting price floors. 4. Pharmaceuticals/Cosmetics (≤5%) Who uses it: Multinationals and niche pharma firms. Disruption impact: Low volume, high margin: Disruption here has minor volume effect but may reduce value-added sales. Price-insensitive: Products are premium and continue even during recessions. |
emmaodet:This is purely academic and meant to unmask the devastating effects of devaluation—even though it is hard to see, as it often creeps in very slowly. I’m making this point because, despite everything, these companies still provide value to employees whose families depend on them. Now, having said that, let's look at GTCO. In Q1 2025, GTCO posted a PAT of 258 billion Naira—very impressive, right? But in dollar terms, that's about 161 million dollars. Now let's rewind to 2014: their Q1 PAT was 23 billion Naira, which was equivalent to 117 million dollars at the time. So, over 11 years, GTCO's real profit in dollar terms grew by only 37%, while in Naira terms, it shot up by over 1000%. An untrained observer looking only at the Naira figures might be amazed by such apparent growth. But in reality, if GTCO had sold all its assets and invested the 2014 profit in U.S. Treasury bonds at just 4% annually, the returns would have surpassed this growth with minimal risk. Now, PRESCO really impressed me. In Q1 2014, its PAT was just 400 thousand Naira. Fast forward to 2025, and the PAT is over 47 billion Naira. In real terms, that’s a staggering 138% compounded annual growth. This reminds me of the potential in Ellah Lakes. Some so-called experts are bashing the stock, calling it "dogoyaro." Time will tell. As for me, I only know simple math. And as they say, numbers don’t lie. |
emmaodet:This is not what I asked. I'm looking at companies' profit growth. What I'm telling you is that, despite some of these companies reporting massive increases in profit, when you adjust those figures to the dollar value of their respective periods, you’ll realize they actually made less real profit. Let me explain: suppose a Nigerian company made ₦1,000,000 in profit after tax in 2014. At the 2014 exchange rate of ₦197 per dollar, that equates to $5,076. Now, let's say the company has grown its profit by 20% annually (CAGR). By 2025, that would amount to about ₦7,430,000 in profit. Converted at the current exchange rate of ₦1,600 per dollar, that gives you roughly $4,644. So, although the profit in naira terms has increased significantly over the last 10 years, the real value in dollars has actually decreased. Only companies with a compounded annual growth rate above 22% since then would have experienced real profit growth in dollar terms. But how many companies fall into that category? So, my point again is that outsized returns aren’t the whole story. We also need to look at real return when compared with stable economies. Going back to your calculation—a foreign investor whose Nigerian portfolio didn’t grow more than 8x from 2014 to date has effectively lost money. Don’t point to the few companies that achieved 20x to 30x returns in share value; we also have many that didn’t. A 2014 investor would have needed to be extremely lucky to pick only the top performers. |
Agbalowomeri:The two perspectives are complementary. You have to get both the entry and exit right—which means someone has to be willing to buy your stock when you're done, at the right price. Do you think foreign investors aren't seeing what I'm seeing? For example, despite all the noise, only SCOA and Chellarams have delivered over 100% year-on-year returns so far, based on Yochaa metrics—unless you're a master of timing |
Xidget:The impending merger is a double-edged sword nah—imagine combining the good with the bad, especially when the bad outweighs the good. Let Dangote cancel any future merger plans and watch how NASCON responds. ![]() |
GeneralDae:Did you even read my post? I clearly stated ‘pre-Tinubu and Buhari.’ The naira and the overall economy were much healthier before the APC came into power. The numbers don’t lie. |
RodgersAkpafu:My understanding is that most consumer goods companies sell nearly 100% of their products within Nigeria. This is quite different from countries like China, which deliberately devalue their currency to boost exports and earn foreign exchange. A few companies—like PRESCO and others—are benefiting from this situation because they export and the weak naira makes them more competitive internationally. Maybe cement producers too. But for the rest, it seems like they’re just quoting big numbers without real value behind them. |
GeneralDae:I want to see the actual figures and workings—not politically motivated defenses. |
Most of the revenue/profit growth you folks are celebrating—I've read how Agba is praising the heavy returns in the consumer sector—I have just one question: Have you converted those returns to dollars and compared them with previous years’ returns using the exchange rates of those times? Which one do you think is better? To me, it looks like we're seeing more money that’s worth much less. And before anyone launches an attack saying “we spend in naira,” let me ask: how many made-in-Nigeria items do you actually own, aside from a few consumables? It’s actually quite funny. Someone who used to earn ₦20 million a year before the Tinubu and Buhari administrations could afford a decent car and still live comfortably. Today, that same ₦20 million might only buy a car—if your taste isn’t even that high. So, Brother EmmaOdet, while you’re sharing all this profitability news, please do us a favour: convert the figures to dollars—using the old rate (below ₦700) and the current rate (around ₦1,600)—so we can make a more meaningful comparison. Thank you. ![]() |
ositadima1:A Street investor said my technical analysis is like Agba's—it doesn't work. MCY56 minus 1, on the other hand, told me to let the gurus speak first. Despite all these jabs, I persevered. Is Champion finally going to answer my call or what? ![]() |
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Agbalowomeri:No, I don't think so. The price hike has more than compensated for the reduction in consumption, and they are now selling with a higher profit margin. Previously, selling 1,000 bottles of Hero at ₦300 per bottle would have generated ₦300,000. Now, even with a 50% reduction in consumption, selling at the current ₦1,000 per bottle would generate ₦500,000. Plus, the profit per bottle has likely increased. For instance, retailers were previously satisfied making ₦300 to ₦500 profit per crate; today, they are probably making over ₦1,000 per crate to maintain the same profit levels, largely due to the massive devaluation of the naira. It’s just common sense, if you ask me. |
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emmaodet:The free version of Claude is very good, but it has the shortest question limit. Gemini, on the other hand, is almost unlimited. They're all good—ChatGPT and Grok included. DeepSeek thinks a lot; sometimes it exceeds its quota just trying to figure things out, without even answering the question. As for Meta, the last time I used it, it was the least accurate, so I haven’t bothered with it since. They’ve all come a long way. There was this really tough probability question I struggled with a few years ago—it took me weeks to solve. I started using that question as a benchmark to test these AIs. For a long time, none of them could give the correct answer. Then DeepSeek finally solved it—and I was like, damn, it found a completely different way to crack it. After that, when the other AIs began implementing reasoning functions, they also started solving it. I'm still not sure if Meta can handle it even now. I've seen huge progress across the board, even at work, thanks to AI. People who really know... know. |
Hadebiimiipee:The book Why Stocks Go Up and Down. This book won’t teach you how to trade or use specific trading platforms, but it provides a simplified and clear overview of how the stock market works. Once you’ve gone through it, you can ask your questions on Gemini — it’s great at helping you understand concepts — or feel free to bring your questions here. The links here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://blog.alltick.co/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Why-Stocks-Go-Up-and-Down-4E-William-H.-Pike-CFA-Patrick-C.-Gregory-CFA.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiy2K214dSMAxVGaUEAHRlhFmYQFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0xA3FIU3rTs6kjog4WsiyT And Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
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Mpeace:Trump is trying to save face now. He thought China would have started begging by this point—but that hasn’t happened—so now it’s more about damage control. About 30% of the world’s goods come from China, and as of today, China has more manufacturing capacity than the U.S. It’s not a very clever move to start a trade war with them unless you already have capacity that’s equal or better. You need to start producing several things locally, and that kind of shift doesn't happen overnight—it takes time to build up. It’s similar to what Tinubu did with the fuel subsidy—good intention, but rushed at a time when there was no local capacity. The move had potential but was poorly executed. Anyway, like Nigeria, the U.S. is also dealing with mounting debt, and Trump might have gone down this path simply because there were no better alternatives. Still, if you ask me, it wasn’t well executed. Now, American citizens will have to bear the inflation that follows. China will feel some pain too. They have a lot of production capacity that won’t be fully utilized for a while. But to be clear, China contributes significantly to global trade—from chemicals to machine parts to industrial equipment—all at unbeatable prices. The U.S. will either have to pay more for these goods in the meantime or learn to do without them. |
PuristForest:What iare ur social media handles? |
PuristForest:You made a lot of accusations in your previous posts. How do you conclude that Street strategy is obsolete and doesn’t make money? How can we be sure your Oando prediction wasn’t just a fluke that happened to go your way? You talk about your subscribers — can you provide a 4 to 5-year history of your trades, or at least an equity curve? As some clever people say, seeing is believing. Alternatively, we could track all your calls on this thread, along with their implied time frames (because without a time frame, anyone can claim anything), and compute whether you have a positive expectancy — but then again, who has that kind of time? |
Streetinvestor2:Lol, people do technical analysis and make money. People do whatever it is you do, and they make money too. Personally though, this wave-based TA feels like a story told under the moonlight. |
zendi:By the way, trade is the exchange of value—you need what I have, and I need what you have. Everyone goes home happy. But if you grow to like what I offer so much that you end up depending on me for most of your needs, whose fault is that? You're paying, and the other party is providing value. Your money isn’t a gift; you're exchanging it for something useful. Yet, some people act like they're doing others a favor by buying goods and services that they themselves will consume. (you inclusive) That’s a terrible way of thinking. |
zendi:The reality is that America did nothing for China—China took matters into its own hands and repositioned the country over the past 15 to 20 years. They started with cheap knockoffs and numerous one-man export businesses. Then they began innovating, producing high-quality goods at very low prices. In contrast, the American system is built around the 'American Dream,' high wages, and excessive consumption, which makes domestic production significantly more expensive—hence the reliance on outsourcing. I don’t think these things can be forced. America needs to restructure its system, reduce wages and wastage to stay competitive. It's not easy, and it will take time. Trump is trying to forcibly bend a tree that has already grown. China is now advancing in microchips, biotech, AI, precision machining, and more—offering all at very competitive prices. Their schools are becoming as cutting-edge as those in the U.S. |
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