₦airaland Forum

Nigerialabalaba:
Zelensky dey para like the fury of woman hand don touch. Since Monday, e dey bomb oil assets of Russia/Putin and dey destroy Trump for media so tey Trump too don fire am back

Link
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1892242622623699357?t=6rTFW-m4ANgn9pEvh6zZOg&s=19

Oil sef dey rise wella so anyone wey sabi go dey load oil company shares wella.

Dis trouble Trump dey look for, na oil, metals and commodities especially food go reap am o.

Even Hamas no send Trump wen Trump dey foam for mouth las week. Iran sef don reply am today say make he bring am on say no be Iran e go dey form VanDamme for.

Zelensky go drag d war till Trump sef go leave WH like Putin do for Biden. Elemi lo ma last o.

Shine una eyes wella. Igi pawpaw o ni wo pawa o.

You have no idea what is going on. The only reason Ukraine has lasted this long is because of U.S. backing. It is the U.S. that has been supplying them with weapons, sanctioning Russia, and spreading anti-Russian propaganda through the media. The U.S. was practically doing everything for Ukraine.

Now that U.S. policy has changed, the war is over. It was the U.S. that pushed them into fighting in the first place. Ukraine cannot defeat Russia—just compare the size and resources of both countries.

As I said, very soon, most of the sanctions imposed by the U.S. will be lifted, and Russia will once again be allowed to flood the market with oil. Let’s watch as things unfold.

How will Oando & Co fare now that it is evident the price of crude may tank? Zelensky will take the deal, and most of the sanctions on Russia will be lifted.

I find it amusing that people with a poor understanding of a situation refuse to stay quiet and learn. The other thread was filled with people criticizing Russia and Trump.

A stronger and former boss tells you not to join NATO, yet you insist on being a sovereign country with the right to do as you please. Now, almost three years later—with part of your land annexed and heavy casualties—you are taking the same deal. How did Zelensky ever believe Russia would allow NATO to set up shop on its borders? Even the U.S. wouldn’t allow that. During the USSR era, when Cuba tried to align with Russia, we saw how the U.S. reacted and how it nearly escalated into a nuclear exchange.

To claim that we are all free to do as we please is naïve. It’s the same reason an Anambra man will never be elected governor of Lagos under normal circumstances, just as an "Omo Eko" becoming governor of Anambra State is highly unlikely—despite being one Nigeria. It's the same reason the U.S. has restricted the sale of its most advanced chips to China. It’s also why many of you mistreat your house helps while spoiling your own children, even though some of these helps are as young as your kids.

True freedom does not exist.

Capitas7:
Thank you for your comments. I read all 3. I appreciate the politeness and you taking your time to carefully address all that you addressed. I may not be able to quote Rabbi's posts, but I was referring to his excellent forecasts about NGX; I acknowledge your angle.

I'm not being emotional. I enjoy reading opinions, counter-views, arguments, experience and all informative posts on here, just like many people. I have quoted your brilliant posts in the past, so I learn from them.

It is entertaining and informing to listen to two people argue about which is better between Honda and Toyota, but the moment either debater focuses on driving home the point that the other camp is blind or not knowledgeable, the argument becomes personal and distasteful.

An adage says: Ogbon o'logbon ni kii je ki a pe agbalagba ni were. Drops of knowledge from each one of us here will make an ocean of knowledge that benefits us rather than a reason for calling an outsider an ignorant fellow.

My apologies for my aggression—I learned to talk like that here. You are absolutely right. Behind my slightly belligerent demeanor is a genuinely humane and respectful person. This online persona is just a social experiment. I would never speak to you like that in the real world. But here, in cyberspace, anything goes.

Toluway:
I sold at over 4m loss. God... Forgive me my sins.

The ₦4 million may be a very small fraction of your invested capital, but I have learned that selling at a loss is not necessarily a bad idea if you can identify a suitable replacement. Trading is all about turnover. You could spend two years waiting for a stock to gain 200%, or you could cut losses—taking a 70% gain here and a 50% gain there—ultimately achieving far better results over the same period.

There are many paths to success, as long as you have a system that screens for good stocks. Fortunately, this thread provides that for free. Many posters share stock picks that you can research further. My point is, you don’t have to hold on to a losing position, especially if it’s clear that recovery will take a long time.

HesInMe:
No nah. You know I read and respect your opinions. My question was, Why invest now?

Okay, let me offer why not now, then tell me where I'm wrong: That the stock is trading on Presco stardust that will dissipate soon; that their most prized assets, oil palm seedlings, are 5-8 years from peak production; and that the company effectively has zero revenue and is burning through cash.

Okay, let’s think about this logically for the sake of academic discussion:

1. Have you checked how much land they own? Even without generating revenue, that land is appreciating in value, especially now that the naira has devalued more than ever before. Please help me calculate the worth of the owned land—not the leased land.

2. Their piggery section won’t take "eight years" to mature as you claim. I may be wrong, but you can easily Google the pig life cycle.

3. I heard they have invested in crops that can generate marginal revenue in the meantime.

4. In six to eight years, palm fruit will be worth more than it is today. That’s how the world works—prices tend to rise over time, even under good governance. It’s built into the system.

5. One of the directors loaned ₦1 billion to the business. So, who should I believe—you, with no skin in the game, or someone who put his own money on the line? Who should I take more seriously?

Streetinvestor2:
I am not questioning you decision on you buy.We have different ways we do this business. You sold sugar with small hair cut just as I have policy never to sell at loss unless it is beyond my control..My sugar has never entered negative. Though I wish I sold when I had #50 and above on it to rebalance my portfolio
I only asked if your intention into the stock is for long time investment or JIJo move.
I have been on IB on loss though it has turned positive now in my portfolio. My BE was #5:12.

I sold Sugar at an 880K loss because I kept buying at higher prices—my first purchase was at 20-something (I need to check). After selling Sugar, I used the proceeds to buy into Presco, which is now up about 70%.

I noticed issues with Sugar but held on until it became painfully clear that there was a problem—then I sold. I even made a case for that very issue, and the problem in Sugar still exists. I provided a detailed analysis of it, and it’s here.

This isn’t about competition. You’ve been in this longer than I have—I only started in 2020. Just saying.

Streetinvestor2:
Did you buy it for investments for long time or jijo.II missed that part

Again, I have argued with you about this very stock many times—did you forget? You called it an "audio farm," "dogonyaro farm," and more. Yet, I never wavered in my resolve to speak as I see it; I stood firm all the way through. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m not—time will tell.

As I’ve said here many times, I never put my entire investment into a single stock. If it tanks, that’s fine. But if it pulls a UCAP on you, that’s still fine.

As a matter of fact, OJIJ is also permitted.

HesInMe:
Humour me -- you know I ask stupid questions -- but what is the case for buying Ellahlakes now? What will sustain the short-term gains?

If you have been reading my posts, you should understand my reason for buying. I have made a rough estimate of the potential in the cultivated seedlings, and we have computed the potential in the pig farming business, along with other aspects I can't recall. I am not going to repeat the work I have already done for you. Kindly search for 'Ellah' and 'Ositadima1' to find my posts.

There are many ways to approach investing. You can invest in an established business, in businesses that pay dividends, in struggling businesses that have been heavily discounted by the market, or in businesses with strong potential, such as Ellah Lakes. The fact that it doesn’t appeal to you because of the type of investor you are does not make it a bad investment.

jaybee3:
Fixation with being right makes you lose sight of the bigger picture. Arguments should be about learning and growth, not proving a point at someone else’s expense.

At the end of the day, investing isn’t an exact science, everyone has their own approach, and no one gets it right all the time. Calling out people’s different views over and over starts to look less like discussion and more like a witch hunt. People need space to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own decisions.

I don’t see posts on this forum as a reflection of personality—maybe that’s my problem. Everything I type here starts and ends here; it never extends beyond this space into the personal lives of those posting. So, if I make a remark, don’t take it personally—it has nothing to do with you as an individual. My comments are strictly based on my views of the text I see on the screen.

I think it’s important to separate personal worth from posts made on a public forum. For example, someone here could be my employer or a prominent figure in the real world, but in this space, that doesn’t matter. Everything begins and ends with the wisdom behind the posts—nothing more, and that’s how it should be.

If you get angry because I challenged your post and feel like deactivating because of it, then you’re missing the point. Your post is not you!

[quote author=opadiya post=134122983][/quote]I don’t see posts on this forum as a reflection of personality—maybe that’s my problem. Everything I type here starts and ends here; it never extends beyond this space into the personal lives of those posting. So, if I make a remark, don’t take it personally—it has nothing to do with you as an individual. My comments are strictly based on my views of the text I see on the screen.

I think it’s important to separate personal worth from posts made on a public forum. For example, someone here could be my employer or a prominent figure in the real world, but in this space, that doesn’t matter. Everything begins and ends with the wisdom behind the posts—nothing more, and that’s how it should be.

If you get angry because I challenged your post and feel like deactivating because of it, then you’re missing the point. Your post is not you!

Capitas7:
Seeking knowledge with all our youthful time and energy is commendable, respectable and profitable. Anyone who believes Bode Thomas' biography will be reminded to always pray for wisdom.

Like I said before, arguments are necessary for growth—they are not meant to denigrate.

If I make an assertion, argue with me—it's welcome. Attack me if you must—still welcome. I learn in the process and improve. I don’t know about you, but this is how I learn best.

Acknowledgments and praises add nothing to my current knowledge.

Capitas7:
The predictions of BullBearMkt together with FXuser (forefathers of TA on this thread) are respected with a lot to learn from. You have countered BBM's charts interpretation a number of times.

Agbalowomeri jokes a lot, but for those who read in-between the lines, there's a lot to learn from him. You again know your reasons for countering his use of TA tools, even if some of us don't see why.

To argue against another's view often shows objectivity and is respectable. But faulting people's knowledge and experience is often not kind.

Learn this today: You gain more from arguments than from one-sided dialogue. BBM is good, no doubt, but like all of us, he has room for improvement—which I pointed out clearly. He gets some things right and misses others. His predictions could be improved through backtesting and greater specificity. If you’re interested, you can take on that assignment: gather all his predictions, compare them with the corresponding data at the time, and see if they would have resulted in a huge profit or small profit. It’s not difficult, just time-consuming.

As for Agba, he predicted a market crash that never happened. What if you had followed his advice and offloaded all your stocks in anticipation? You would have missed these gains.

Please stop being emotional and sentimental—try to analyze these things critically. An argument isn’t meant to shut you up; it’s simply an exchange of opposing views. I understand that in your culture, arguments may have negative connotations, but how is that my fault?

Capitas7:
You're a very intelligent young man, my brother; your knowledge base and learning strides are inspiring. But sincerely, some of the "calling people out" might not be necessary.

I bought this same Presco when OGG first compared it to Okomu about 2+years ago at around N89 to N100. Encouragements including Pa Emma's posts motivated averaging up multiple folds, and BE stays at N238. You'll remember how you countered OGG's views countless times. Now, you're on PA Emma's matter.

Today's NGX ASI was predicted by RabbiDoracle just 2 years ago. You led the counter arguments against his predictions.

Don't misinterpret my comments—each one has a specific reason behind it. If you have a short memory, that's not my problem. Fortunately for you, this thread saves posts, so you can easily revisit them when in doubt.

That said, let me clarify my arguments with these individuals:

RabbiDoracle: I started debating with him when he claimed that the USA and the West would collapse due to their bond issues. I told him I didn’t see the USA collapsing over that, and today, the USA is still standing. Whatever two-year prediction you’re referring to, I don’t see it—unless you just want to be melodramatic.

OGG: My argument with him was about making his points clearer. There was no need to encode the ratios he was quoting in shorthand. The concepts he was trying to "hide" are already publicly available online and aren’t proprietary the way he made them seem. There’s no point in making messages unnecessarily difficult to understand.

As far as I know, all my arguments were valid. If you disagree, post the discussion here, and let’s see.

Now, what exactly did Rabbi predict that we are seeing now? I’m curious. Post it here—excluding time-based predictions, because those don’t count. For example, I could say Zenith and GTB will sell at over 100 naira by December, but that wouldn’t really be a prediction if, two years later, a new president devalues the naira further and it happens.

I argue with these people because I expect them to know better. There's a lot of nonsense being peddled here that I don’t even bother engaging with.

If your memory of past events is unclear, revisit them to get the facts straight.

opadiya:
It seems you have something against this Pa. Emma. Many of us on this platform have diligently followed him and our gratitude to him knows no bound. He has never claimed to know everything. He even said in one of his comments here that he has been wrongs on several occasions. And on his stance on Oando, many of us share his sentiments here. Many of us will not touch Oando even with 10000% returns. There are many opportunities in the market to place myself at the mercy of an individual I don't believe in. We must not unwittingly discourage those who made this forum a priceless ground that has transformed lives.

=ositadima1 post=134119326]Presco - 70%. That’s my progress so far; I have no reason to lie, unlike some people here.

Now, think with me—Pa Emma has been praising Presco since late last year, around November. Yet, despite all the hype, Presco has only gained about 70%. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a solid stock, which is why I entered early in the year after selling Dangote Sugar. But the one he vehemently dismissed? It did over 13 baggers—13, not 3, but 13! Oando!

What I’m saying is, the so-called gurus aren’t always right. Don’t let their opinions limit you, especially when they call a stock worthless. Just because you had a bad experience doesn’t mean history will repeat itself. And failing to manage your affairs properly doesn’t mean everyone else will fail the same way. That’s simply not true.

That’s your opinion, and I respect that. But just like you, I have the right to hold mine.

This was the same argument I had with him back then—don’t discourage others just because you got burned in the past. Oando did 13 baggers, and whether you refuse to touch it with the longest pole on earth or not, that fact remains unchanged. It has yet to crash as Oga Emma predicted.

Let’s watch and see.

Raider76:
Kindly state your entry prices

NNFM - 31.35 (21 October. 24), UACN - 21.8 (1 November. 24), UPDC - 1.5 (26 November. 24), SEPLAT - 6000 (22 October. 24), CHAMS - 2.04 (29 October. 24).

Raider76:
Kindly state your entry prices

470—I’m as open as a book. I bought it on August 6, 2024. Check my posts from that period, and you’ll see it there. I made the case for leaving DS and entering Presco.

I don’t need to claim any imaginary eight-figure profits—that’s just not my style.

Oh, lest I forget—shoutout to my niggaretta, Ginalex, who does the OJIJ like no other. Respect!

Presco - 70%. That’s my progress so far; I have no reason to lie, unlike some people here.

Now, think with me—Pa Emma has been praising Presco since late last year, around November. Yet, despite all the hype, Presco has only gained about 70%. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a solid stock, which is why I entered early in the year after selling Dangote Sugar. But the one he vehemently dismissed? It did over 13 baggers—13, not 3, but 13! Oando!

What I’m saying is, the so-called gurus aren’t always right. Don’t let their opinions limit you, especially when they call a stock worthless. Just because you had a bad experience doesn’t mean history will repeat itself. And failing to manage your affairs properly doesn’t mean everyone else will fail the same way. That’s simply not true.

1-meter challenge.

The scores so far: NNFM - 157%, UACN - 65%, UPDC - 108%, SEPLAT - (-5%), CHAMS - 17%.

No wonder I sleep picifully these days.

Don’t let your love for a fight make you lose guard, because I’m starting to doubt your street credibility these days.

Streetinvestor2:
I did not even remember your call on that stock.Na crown P i remember. Agba na pdp.He is looking for how to reinvest his loot from insurance
I have decided to follow few people talk on this thread or quote. Then again that moniker feels he must attack me each time.He thinks is everyone that takes rubbish. Is he making the Money for me.They should tell him to stay his lane or we go enter gutter together. I am not on this thread for anyone benefit.I am her for myself only.This thread does not dictate my actions on nse.I will say whatever I like about any stock if I choose

Are you sure about the insurance loot? I hope you're not losing your street sense and focusing too much on fighting. You know we look up to you.

crownprince2017:
Osita u were the one that brought that company to my attention after which I did rigorous analysis before staking my money...

He go loud when the thing finally start, all this one na joke from what I can see going forward.

When I mentioned it, my nightmares began. They came at me with all sorts of attacks, and I had to have a few sessions with my family therapist.

Watin dey happen for here nah, be like say spirit of darkness don dey take over, I bind this thread with the blood of J.

SonofElElyonRet:
Street Urchin back on the beat with his epistle of gibberish

Ellahlakes will shock people—wasn't I one of the first to point it out here? I was crucified for it, called names, and traumatized for more than two weeks. Now, look.

We did back-of-the-envelope calculations, rationally explained the upsides, and even provided charts as backup. There’s only so much one can do.

Meanwhile, people like Ginalex were busy doing OJIJ, LOL.

Streetinvestor2:
One clown in one shithole will not breath without referring to my moniker...it is well.If he knows how I hate that moniker talk less ewu behind it.He thinks is every one that is into Dan commission he calls real estate agent. Looking for people to scam because you want to collect commission. Na hunger go kill you with the agent work.Your cry go loud pass this level soon...akpa amu

What about Agba, who said we were going to see the mother of all bears in January? We’re almost at the end of February now, LOL. I also noticed when he cautioned someone not to take SpaceX seriously—LOL.

You're using Ichimoku without backtesting it on the NGX market, just following rules from a blog written by some sketchy fellow. Technical analysis works, but you need to backtest it thoroughly on historical data and identify high-probability patterns, not just pick up a book or blog and copy ideas blindly.

In that sense, fundamental analysis is even better because it’s rooted in actual financials rather than patterns. If you want to use pattern-based strategies, study your patterns properly first.

By the way, my overall portfolio is up 11% since January—the entire portfolio, not some "yeye" 100% challenge, but the whole thing.

jideflash:
abeg wetin e mean.

Na 20 day window them use form am, the green dots be highest high/Lowest low in last 20 day (moving). The black for middle na 20 day moving average, the orange dots na bollinger bands. So highest in a long time is 2.5 sonething, while lowest na 1.9. Cham never enter trend, na side ways so if u want to buy, na bellow 2.11. That red shade na squeeze be that, dem talk say if u see am he mean say price fit trend but direction we no know. Look at FA for direction.

Na watin I fit talk, go look up Bollinger and donchian for more, watin concern me na d fine chart, this year na fine chart and fine money I dey find. If u bring dirty money I no go look ur side.

My fine chart, can you read it?

yMcy56:
These CHI PLC guys are very funny...
This market can be funny at times...
If you have it, just 'Hold'
My amateur advice.

Can remember when this Eterna was being mentioned here......all the way from below 10..
I'm still watching it for the day it will hit my dream analysis price....
Funny enough I don't have any....

CADBURY not doing bad in market today.....
PZ is under watch as well.....it will deliver at its own time too.

** Not any form of advert **

My own be say from January to December you be amateur, you don dey this market my nephew enter JSS1 come out, now she dey 4th year, u still be amateur. Nawo for you o, when will you finally graduate nah, all your mates done move o, to next level, Ok nah.

Make i shake my small nyach.

It looks like my 1-meter challenge is going well. Here are the scores so far: NNFM - 133%, UACN - 60%, UPDC - 39%, SEPLAT - (-5%), CHAMS - 4%.

Should I exit NNFM now that I've already surpassed the 100% challenge?

stcool:
May be the word is "Sell Off" as Market Crash may be too strong. Just a word of caution, as I can already see people convulsing under the post.

USA wants to increase local production of its goods. Many feel that the country is too dependent on foreign products, forgetting that there was a reason those factories moved overseas—mostly to China. Another goal is to boost domestic oil and gas production, but it will take a few years for the U.S. to become competitive in that sector as well.

Trump is betting on the thesis that the world needs USA more than USA needs the world. I think he is wrong, but time will tell.

BullBearMkt:
I laugh for Faranse!

A robust tree with fruits doesn’t need any yeye dry leave(s) to prove its worth.

Ok, Oga. No be all fruits dey edible, tree fit dey grow "yeye" fruits.