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Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 8:58am On May 28, 2019
delishpot:
I am not here to argue. It doesn't have to be only about Jesus but if that info about Jesus is among the many things kept from you then that is that. Who told you that info about Jesus is even hidden? The Jews know about him, they do not deny him even to this day. They just don't believe he is divine. They say he is a bastard son and is not the expected messiah. Indians claim Jesus went to India for spiritual knowledge then went back to Israel to teach the people about God. They also claim that he survived the crucifixion and went back to India where he lived until he died. They have his tomb there to prove their story (in their opinion) Stop basking in your ignorance, knowledge is acquired throughout one's life. Dig deeper and you will see new things everyday.
People may claim anything, same way Nigerians claim that India won us 100-0 in a football match. But are the claims true? True claims should also be found in the history books, that's what we are saying. Imagine, somebody who fed at least 5000 people with five loaves of bread, yet no space was found for him in history. Isn't that amazing? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 8:40am On May 28, 2019
delishpot:
You only get to hear, read and see what people in power want you to see. There are tons of info, artifacts etc that once found are kept away from public knowledge. So don't think you can 100% say you know all there is to know.
So what you're trying to say in essense is that it is only the information about the existence of Jesus they hide out of thousands of similar informations like that. undecided
That's how somebody told me that India actually won Nigeria 100-0 in a football competition, but the authorities hid the information from the public. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Share Something Nasty You Have Heard From Religious People Recently by OtemAtum(op): 5:04am On May 28, 2019
SOFTENGR:
I was passing by one church today, I heard the pastor shouting: "poverty die! poverty die!".
I started wondering if it's by shouting that one would become successful.
They'll never cease to amuse us.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by OtemAtum: 5:02am On May 28, 2019
johnydon22:
Are their other institutions or structures that are also sources of violence as religion?

Are their other sources of noise other than religion?
Definitely there are
Christianity Etc › Re: The Easiest Way To Recognize The Only True Religion From God by OtemAtum: 10:02pm On May 27, 2019
And because Islam is written in the Quran, we should go and smoke in the petrol station? This write-up doesn't make an iota of sense.
Christianity Etc › Share Something Nasty You Have Heard From Religious People Recently by OtemAtum(op):
Mine goes like this(it happened to me today)
As usual, I was on my tour to know more about people's opinions on religions, God, human origin, etc. A fat woman's money dropped at the Bus Stop. She was too far to bend down immediately and the bus she came down from was ready to move. She was pointing to it. I was close to it. I picked it up immediately and gave it to her. People around me began to say all manner of things. "Why did you help her pick it?" "She should have picked it by herself. It's ritual she wants to use you for. Go and fast and pray as soon as you get home."

When I kept smiling without replying them, someone began to plead the blood of Jesus on my behalf.

"I cover you with the blood of Jesus!"

The scene wasn't funny o. See what religion and superstitions have done to the brains of my fellow Africans. undecided

Now let's assume that I am a Christian and something bad now happens to me a week after, I will link that bad incidence to this event and then start running up and down for prayers. In the end, many pastors will scam me and use my money + monies of thousands of victims like me to buy private jet. Religion is bad!

cc: Realmindz, Jesusjnr, Originalkalokalo, Dazzlingd, geoworldedu, asalimpo, hopeful landlord, Prophetmichael, Hahn, capslocked, Johnydon22, Godsaklek, Niflheim
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Joshua Iginla Acquires Private Jet (Photos, Video) by OtemAtum: 9:26pm On May 27, 2019
movid:
Nope..d person wasn't hired. This will not be the first time he will be giving people money, I just happen to witness this one. He has given soo many pple money codedly tht no one knows about unless pple close to tht person. And anytime he decides to give someone money, he usually say it's God's instruction. He may call the person on phone and ask the person to send his or her acct details..and he will send it codedly to tht person and no one will know abt it. He has not given me money but he has given someone very very close to me money on soo many occasions and no one knows abt it except someone like me tht is very close to tht person. The 70k he gave tht person, he just decided to say it openly..their are soo many pple he has given such money like tht and he didn't make mention of it infront of pple.
How many of the people you know or your family member has he given money? Let me enlighten you, churches pick poor people on the street, pay them 2k and use them to act stuffs like this. I know many cases of such.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum:
realmindz:
I miss the doctofus, but I'm not understanding this part of the story. Did all these happen in Egypt
Common Era II is a record of things which happen in the Islamic countries. After Mohammed's death, rulers were chosen to represent him and continue the Islamization of the world. Abu Bakr was chosen. After his death Umar became the ruler of all Islamic nations, then after him was Uthman. Then after him was Ali, then Hassan, then Muawiyah, then Yazid etc. The caliphs oversee all the affairs of Islam, chooses governors to rule each Islamic country, etc.
Christianity Etc › Re: Has Anyone You Know Died/been Cured Of Diabetes By Men of god? Pls Share. by OtemAtum: 3:27pm On May 27, 2019
asalimpo:
well, that doesnt mean s/he wasnt healed. The sickness simply returned- and they didn't know how to keep their healing .
I've read a bit on faith and healing. So i hav some idea of how these things work. In one story kenneth hagin shared, a man who had been encumbered with athritis for a long time, straightened up immediately the reverend laid hands on him and prayed.Shortly after as the reverend Hagin passed by his house to check up on him, he noticed that the athritis was back-in full force. So the man said something like "... Maybe i really wasnt healed after all. Maybe it was just a stroke of luck or coincidence".
Kenneth Hagin then asked him,if in all his years of being athritic, there was ever a moment where he had a let up (totally symptom-free) of just a few days? The man said No. Kenneth then corrected Him,that it was God who healed him but he lost the healing when he slipped into doubt.
The reverend prayed for him again and this time all symptoms left. He was symptom free many years afterwards.
The issue with this story is,if it is true,there's a lot to learn.
I read another online of a man who had diabetes nd would feel sick if he ate sugary foods but when a friend laid hands on him and prayed, he ,the diabetic, felt a warm glow go over his body. He later visited his doctor , who examined his blood-sugar and noticed it dropping significantly. It kept dropping over a period of days till it was normal. He no longer felt terrible when he had an ice cream.
Again,the issue is,is this story true?
If true,it raises questions. Lots.

Based on my readings,that woman that fell under the anointing was healed but didnt know how to keep it.
I dont blame her, most ppl dont hav any education in these areas at all based on what they get from their sunday teachings and week day teachings (most ppl ,i included hardly go to weekday services).
I've learnt a lot from reading books nd listening to teachings. But i notice most christians dont read or have such desires.
The few tht do r usually pastors, doing it from a detached as-a-job viewpoint.
Then one day calamity strikes, they run-around-like a chicken with the chopped off.


I'm curious about things like this. But i've never seen/or experienced the spectacularly supernatural . Neither have i met any real life person who has. I think christians and pastors fall into the ego trap of trying to prove how big nd great God is to them. Sometimes we should just admit that our faith isnt there and we are overwhelmed.
You are sharing the testimony of Kenneth Hagin as if you were there. All these people are fake. They tell these stories over and over again to make people believe them. Now where is the man Kenneth Hagin healed to come and share his testimony?
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by OtemAtum: 2:00pm On May 27, 2019
I would have preferred a world without religion. It would be a more peaceful world because Muslims would not have to kill others, Christians would not have to make noises into our ears and traditional worshippers would not have to 'taboolarize' everything or use fellow humans for rituals.
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 1:57pm On May 27, 2019
orisa37:
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This morning my wife bought chicken and 300 Satchets of Pure Water for Children-Day Celebration in a nearby Church.
Thank U.
You're welcome
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 10:55am On May 27, 2019
orisa37:
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Write about God G O D not Yahweh, Allah etc. We shall be on thesame page forever. There will be no warever.
Happy Children's Day Celebration.
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Joshua Iginla Acquires Private Jet (Photos, Video) by OtemAtum: 10:44am On May 27, 2019
movid:
A prophet has given someone though not up to 100k but 70k infront of my eyes. I was there LIVE!..He even told the person to count the money before dipping it in her bag and she did, she confirmed it infront of everybody.
The person was hired. Ask that prophet to give you or someone you know the same kind of money, he won't. Everything can be staged in church.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 10:31am On May 27, 2019
GodSaklek:
HI great otem, hope u are fine, this is Lordcenturion, other owner of this forum banned my both accounts when he discovered that I have two accounts... Happy to see your latest writtens... Stay blessed
Thanks and Happy Children Day Celebration
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 7:34am On May 27, 2019
It's now 2 years, 9 months, and 1 day since Jehovah has been captured in his spiritual prison.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 4:11pm On May 26, 2019
Ha ha ha. He even saw you as a girl, same way bros TB Joshua saw Trump as a woman grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 2:38pm On May 26, 2019
Martinez39:
Lol. Are you trying to fool 1Sharon? Everyone knew that Theresa May is a staunch remainer and it soon became clear that she never wanted brexit and her tactics of extending article 50 became obvious. Given that the MPs were never in favour of her deal at the start, you don't need a genius to tell you that May would never deliver brexit and that she was going to resign.

Donald Trump currently has no strong opposition and looks likely to win.

Atiku will never be proclaimed winner of the 2019 election. You failed.
Intelligent people already know that the UK Brexit deadline would be extended. See a link below https://www.cer.eu/insights/can-uk-extend-brexit-deadline

Only a mumu takes christian prophets serious.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 2:32pm On May 26, 2019
PROPHETmichael:
While you are at it, when I said this at a time when brexit extension was no where in sight and your prime minister resigning wasn't on agenda, I hope you also see me as a charlatan grin
If you follow news very well, you can predict the outcomes of many things. This is called URIM.

on February 7, there was an article predicting the extension of UK Brexit deadline. You and I read the article, then you proceeded to make a 50-50 kalokalo prediction on February 14 with your own information. That's what eventually made you a prophet, because the odd favoured you. If that's the case, sport analysts are prophets, because they have predicted Liverpool qualifying ahead of Barcelona before the games were played at all.

Here is the article on the POSSIBLE DEADLINE EXTENSION OF UK BREXIT:

[quote author= ]Can the UK extend the Brexit deadline?
Insight
Agata Gostyńska-Jakubowska
06 February 2019
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It is becoming increasingly likely that the UK will have to request extension of the Article 50 deadline. But a longer extension might mean that the UK would have to hold European Parliament elections.

The UK is scheduled to leave the EU in just seven weeks’ time, but the outcome of the Brexit process is still highly uncertain. Britain could leave without a deal, or with the current deal, perhaps softened through a revision of the political declaration – the part of the withdrawal package that relates to relationship the UK and EU want after Brexit. Or there could be a general election, or a second referendum. Whichever of these options comes to pass, it is becoming increasingly likely that the UK will have to ask for the extension of the two-year Article 50 process.

After European leaders endorsed the Brexit withdrawal package on November 25th, the EU has pushed on quickly with the ratification process, to allow Britain to leave as planned on March 29th. The Council has already adopted a decision on the signing of the withdrawal agreement and forwarded the text to the European Parliament for its approval. However, the UK Parliament – which also has to pass the deal – has made very little progress. Every day without UK ratification is a day closer to a damaging no deal Brexit.

After the House of Commons rejected the withdrawal agreement on January 15th, and then voted for Prime Minister Theresa May to replace the so-called Irish backstop with “alternative arrangements”, speculation has grown that the UK will have to ask the EU-27 for an Article 50 extension. The EU has made it clear that it will not change the text of the Irish protocol. But without a substantial change to the withdrawal agreement, it is unlikely that May will get Commons to support it. The government is working to bring a revised deal to Parliament as soon as possible. May will make a statement to Parliament about the state of play no later than February 13th – which could pave the way for lawmakers to vote on May’s deal on Valentine’s Day.

When British politicians talk about an Article 50 extension they often give the impression that it is just a question of asking politely. But they ignore the fact that Brexit is a negotiation, not a monologue. The 27 member-states must agree unanimously to the UK’s request to extend the Article 50 deadline.[/quote]https://www.cer.eu/insights/can-uk-extend-brexit-deadline
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 1:56pm On May 26, 2019
orisa37:
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It's bias and unreliable. It is your objectives on this topic and not a Subject to teach.
Warever
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 1:55pm On May 26, 2019
Countdown:

219 days left for ScammerOfUSA to give us an excuse why lame Yahweh could not kill MJBOLT.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 1:50pm On May 26, 2019
Chapter Twenty-Nine
1. Now the Arabians around the borders of Homs, who were descendants of Muawiyah the son of Abu Sufyan arose, saying, this is the time when the Ummayad caliphate will return to the Sufyanids rather than the Marwanids.
2. So they gave their support to Ziyad, the great grandson of Muawiyah(the same Muawiyah who was the first Ummayad caliph). For Ziyad himself was a relative of the deceased caliph Al-Walid through their grandmother.
3. Now Yazid heard that the forces of Ziyad were advancing towards Damascus, so he sent men to the prison where Sulaiman his cousin had been kept.
4. For he believed in the strength of Sulaiman so much. Then when they had brought Sulaiman to him, he said to him, son of Hisham, you are familiar with the terrain of Homs and its borders.
5. Therefore you have been chosen to go and lead the force which shall contend with Ziyad, the son of Abdallah so that he does not get to Damascus.
6. For the Sufyanids are plotting to regain the Ummayad caliphate from the hands of we Marwanids.
7. Now Sulaiman led the force and went to attack Ziyad and his fighters before they got to Damascus. Then he overcame them.
8. Now Yazid was glad at the deed of his cousin, so he made him the leader of his armies.
9. Now shortly after, Yazid began to have many problems with his head, for his brain had a disease. Then he had no strength to continue.
10. So he called Sulaiman and other great people of Islam. Then he declared Ibrahim his son as his successor. Then he died shortly after.
11. Now the same month when Ibrahim the son of Yazid became the caliph, Marwan the son of Mohammad, being the governor of Armenia began to revolt, saying, Uthman the son of al-Walid must be the caliph.
12. Now he threatened to fight until the caliphate would be given to Uthman. However, Marwan did this so that he could get the support of the supporters of al-Walid, for himself intended to be the caliph rather than the child of Al-Walid.
13. Now the supporters of Al-Walid gave their full support to Marwan, saying, go and take the seat of the caliphate for the son of Al-Walid.
14. Now Ibrahim called Sulaiman and said, I thought that this same Marwan gave his support for my father Yazid to take up the seat of the caliph, how soon has he turned his back against us?
15. Now Sulaiman said, Marwan himself have an eye for the seat of the caliphate right from the beginning. He did not support your father at first, but he did so eventually when he saw that many factions and groups supported him.
16. Now surely he will fight all he could to take this seat from you and I doubt that he would give the seat to Uthman the son of al-Walid.

17. But who am I to tell his exact intention? For anything is possible these days, therefore I will not let Uthman and Hakam his brother live to come close to the seat of the caliph. Then if they are dead, we can then know the exact intention of Marwan.
18. So I will give heed to the call of Yazid the son of Khalid who has requested for the vengeance of his father who was tortured to death by Yusuf the son of Umar.
19. So Sulaiman ordered Yazid to kill the sons of Al-Walid and also Yusuf, the former governor of Iraq who was imprisoned. So Yazid killed Uthman and Hakam the son of Al-Walid. Then he killed Yusuf the son of Umar also.
20. Now when Marwan heard that the children of al-Walid had been killed, he strengthened his forces, saying, I will avenge the death of the children of al-Walid and take up the seat of the caliphate for myself.
21. So he waged war with the forces of Ibrahim and Sulaiman and defeated them. Then Ibrahim and Sulaiman went to Marwan to seek his forgiveness and to accept defeat.
22. So did Marwan, the son of Mohammad, who was also the grandson of the past caliph Marwan of the Ummayads, become the caliph.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 12:35pm On May 26, 2019
Chapter Twenty-Eight
1. Now al-Walid feared that Sulaiman his cousin would attack him, because he had been advised by Yusuf the governor of Iraq, saying, why do you allow Sulaiman to go free?
2. Go and get him and imprison him before it would be too late for you. So al-Walid took Sulaiman the son of Hisham and imprisoned him.
3. Now the thing which al-Walid did displeased many of the people, such that they began to shift their support for the Ummayads.
4. Also, in those days, the descendants of Abass, who was the uncle of Mohammed the founder of Islam, had begun to train fighters who will take up the caliphate.
5. Now in those days, they criticised the Ummayad caliphate and killed people randomly, terrorising the people.
6. Now Al-Walid discovered that many of his followers had left him to either give their support to the descendants of Abass or to the forces of Sulaiman whom he had imprisoned.
7. There were some who also arose to fight for Khalid who was tortured to death. All these people attacked the common people randomly, terrorising the lands.
8. Then there was unrest in all the Islamic lands in those days. Now amidst the unrest, Al-Walid made Uthman and Hakam his sons the heirs to the seat of the caliph. This action angered many people further, saying, is this the next thing for the caliph to do?
9. Now Marwan who was the governor of Armenia, being the grandson of Marwan the past caliph, heard how Yazid, the cousin of al-Walid had plotted a coup to overthrow him.
10. Now Marwan wrote a letter to Yazid, saying, do not get yourself involved in this plot. Leave al-Walid to others, let his death not be from his own extended family.
11. Let people of other places whom he had angered kill him. Then shall the Ummayad caliphate not be tarnished further.
12. Now Yazid said, do you think that I am acting on my own accord? Many people from different clans have gathered at my place to offer me support and to back me up to be the next caliph.
13. Even the family of Sulaiman have given me their support, saying, avenge the undeserved torture of Sulaiman your cousin for us, because he was an innocent person, but al-Walid took him and punished him unduly.
14. The Murjiya and the Qadariya have also given me their support to go and dethrone al-Walid and also his governor Yusuf who killed Khalid.
15. Now when Marwan had read the reply of Yazid, he was moved to give his support to him. Then he sent five thousand men who were his own supporters, saying, go with Yazid to subdue the caliph.
15. Now Yazid and his men advanced close to the place of Al-Walid, then Abd Al-Aziz, the head of his force was chosen to go and speak with Al-Walid.
16. Now Al-Walid did not know that the forces of Yazid had surrounded the land, so he struck one of the men of Abd al-Aziz to death.
17. Now Abd al-Aziz blew the trumpet, then many fighters began to troop into the court of Al-Walid.
18. Now Al-Walid was captured and his head was cut off his neck. Then Yazid put the head in a tray and commanded his men to take it round Damascus.
19. So they paraded the head around Damascus and many people were satisfied, saying, Al-Walid deserves to die. For he has not done anything good ever since his ascension.
20. Now Yazid imprisoned Uthman and Hakam whom Al-Walid had named as his successors, then he went further to imprison Yusuf the governor of Iraq and gave his position to Mansur the son of Jumhur.
21. Now the people who were not Islams but were under the Islamic rule were glad at the promises made to them by Yazid, saying, I will not tax you too much like my predecessor did.
22. Now Yazid was supported by many factions of Islam, saying, this is truly the Mahdi, but the Shiites refused to see him as the Mahdi.
23. And the Shiites at the city of Homs refused to send representatives to his coronation ceremony.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 11:23am On May 26, 2019
It's now 2 years, 8 months, 4 weeks and 2 days since Jehovah has been captured in his spiritual prison.
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 11:21am On May 26, 2019
orisa37:
This is OBJECTIVE and Not SUBJECTIVE Reporting.
From any angle you want to see it, it's okay.
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 11:21am On May 26, 2019
ezeonline2:
I want to know more about OTEM ... How do I reach you sir.
You can get to me through mail: otem2016@gmail.com
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 11:01am On May 26, 2019
hahn:
Just in case Mjbolt, I call dibs on your lappy, smartphone and car tongue
You mean dibs that the god of ObaOfUsa has already called?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 10:47pm On May 25, 2019
PROPHETmichael:
Tell Buhari to hand over Atiku's mandate else what happened to Pharoah will repeat itself in his life.
Nadia Buari, I hope you heard the prophecy of Prophessor Michael. Go and return the mandate of Adigun to him before what happened in 20BC will repeat itself.

Prophet, I have told him sir cool
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 10:18pm On May 25, 2019
Countdown:

220 days left for ScammerOfUSA to give us an excuse why lame Yahweh could not kill MJBOLT.

I can see PROPHETmichael viewing the thread. Hello prophet, what do you have for us this time? cool
Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophecy Of Obaofusa Against Mjbolt(both Nairalanders) by OtemAtum(op): 7:47pm On May 24, 2019
Obaofusa:
I'm glad you'll be a witness


Go on your wall Mark the very day I made that post and watch out before the year ends
You(Prince of Nigeria) know yourself (Oba of USA) as a great man of god. You're a GREAT MAN OF SCAM indeed! Ha ha ha ha cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 7:24pm On May 24, 2019
ezeonline2:
Good day Mr, I have been following all your threds and read all it's contents. Is OTEM a religion or something/someone we have to worship? What do you have to offer humanity.. Thank you
Otem is the saviour of the world from mind slavery. The way people's mind are being enslaved by the fear of the unknowns doesn't go down well with 'those in charge', therefore there is need for mind evolution which Otem has come to champion. The world is not here for the purpose of worshipping some being who present themselves to us as God Almighty when they are not. Rather, the world and other planets are there for us to scientifically explore and grow intellectually. To be able to do such things, we have to first have an insight to what the universe is and what it is not, that is why Otem have brought to us the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY which most of its words were initially written in an unknown language called SERIOT. People going through the book will not doubt the existence of the spiritual realms, yet they will not be afraid of the fear of the unknown. Then by so doing, no fellow humans will be able to cheat or scam them. This is deliverance from mind slavery.

As for what to do with Otem, do not worship Otem, neither should you worship any god at all. The UNIVERSAL RULE is:

1. Use Your Brain
2. Worship No God/gods
3. Do Good to Humanity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 3:12pm On May 24, 2019
It's still a long way before Yahweh would be set free from his spiritual cage.

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