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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Marriage: Does God Actually Match Make ??? by OtemAtum: 3:18pm On Jun 14, 2017

lonikit:
I'm not sure if u actually read wht u quoted above. was it God that instructed him or Judah his father. pls read the bible bfr u make ur point. the instruction came from Judah sir. any other one.... waiting....

Is it Judah that killed Onan for not marrying Tamar or it is Yahweh? So tell me whether yahweh didn't support the matchmaking and I will ask you why he had to kill Onan when he isn't in support of it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Marriage: Does God Actually Match Make ??? by OtemAtum: 11:12am On Jun 14, 2017

lonikit:
lolzzz. bro u all got it wrong sir. God only instructed Hosea to marry an harlot and the harlot wasn't specified, anybody could be an harlot. mind u, the whole scenario was a symbol to the house of Judah. God also gave similar instruction to the children of Israel regarding where they should not marry. matching making here is the fact that there is somebody somewhere who is ur ordained wife/husband which I say its not biblical. I will appreciate if u can show me some references to prove ur point.

and regarding Kumuyi, I'm still on my point that he never said that. some of his pastors maybe doing that but Kumuyi has never said that before.

Lol, you mean yahweh was not specific? Have you forgotten the case of Onan? Yahweh even killed the guy for refusing to marry Tamar, the wife of his deceased brother. I intentionally left that scenario so that you will first speak your mind as you have done. Now in the case of Onan, was yahweh specific or not?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Cant The gods Or Supreme Being Of This Earth Stop Boko Haram??? by OtemAtum: 8:43am On Jun 14, 2017

frank317:
What in the world are u talking? [b]U speak like a shallow thinker... Reminds me of Felixomor.[/ b]

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Marriage: Does God Actually Match Make ??? by OtemAtum: 8:38am On Jun 14, 2017

lonikit:
lolzzz, bro, there are lot of things that God can do but will not just do. where u just quoted emphasized that fact. going through the bible apart from the case of Adam who later blame God, there is no account of such in the bible.

Now see how you lie that yahweh doesn't do matchmaking whereas it is all over the bible that he is a matchmaker who imposes his own plan on humans. Read Hosea 1, the whole chapter and come back to defend your lies. If you need more bible passages about y Yahweh matchmaking and commandments of where you should marry from, I'll give you.
Hosea 1:2.
When the Lord began to speak through Hosea, the Lord said to him, “Go, marry a promiscuous woman and have children with her, for like an adulterous wife this land is guilty of unfaithfulness to the Lord.” 3 So he married Gomer daughter of Diblaim, and she conceived and bore him a son.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Marriage: Does God Actually Match Make ??? by OtemAtum: 8:33am On Jun 14, 2017

lonikit:
kumuyi never for once said that.

I know what happens in the marriage committee more than you. And I have insiders who were once members of the committee. You may be just an ordinary member, so you only know little of how things are done behind the curtains. We know more.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Marriage: Does God Actually Match Make ??? by OtemAtum: 6:48am On Jun 14, 2017

Wilgrea7:
God doesn't match anyone... majority of matches are from the pastors themselves and the other minority is from common sense

Kumuyi must not hear this, or you mean to say that he and his hundreds of marriage committee members are liars for saying specifically that yahweh matches his church members or it is a sin if marriage is done otherwise undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 5:38am On Jun 14, 2017*

Chapter Twenty-Two
1. Now while Obaro and his brothers lived in Ubini at their very old age, there were some who hated them, saying, they came from foreign lands to prosper in our own land.
2. Now five homos of Ubini named Omotafia, Otasowie, Osawe, Amowie and Aigbodion. And they said, the children of this Obaro prosper.
3. Now let us disturb there peace and make them feel uncomfortable. For our land is too comfortable for them. Therefore they came and abducted three grandchildren of Obaro. And they were caught by their own people.
4. And the king of Ubini was set to exile them, saying, our land has been known for good and good alone. For Osanoboa our god through Idu his son have made us good from the beginning.
5. And our morality is well famed in all the lands around this great river Negre. And many from the south, east, west and north come here to us to learn moral traditional values and wisdom.
6. And we meditate, raising our minds towards our ancestors for wisdom and knowledge and we have not been disappointed. Now why do you think to stain the white cloth of our Kingdom with evil deed?
7. Have you heard in our history that we fight other lands for lands or wealth or anything? Have you not heard in our proverbs that a patient and peaceful land is the true nature of the earth, but evil and warlike lands are man-made?
8. For when Idu and his wife and children first settled upon the land, there was nothing heard like war or evil. For they all behaved like Osanoboa himself who did no violence and is not jealous of anyone.
9. And this is what we call natural, for goodness is natural.
10. Now see how you seek to destroy the naturality of the land with your man-made jealousy and wickedness. And you have rebelled against the authority of the land also. Therefore you shall be exiled. And you shall not return to this land forever.
11. Now the king named Nosakare sent them on exile. And on their way out, Obaro and his wives saw them, for they were passing through their farmyards. And Obaro called them to sit down. And they roasted corns and gave them to eat.
12. And he said to them, we shall not pay evil back for the evil you did to us. For you starved our grandchildren for many days. And they were almost dead.
13. Now hear the things which I shall say and check your lives. Jealousy is the worst of all evils on the face of the earth and if anyone is seen in possession of it, there can never be peace.
14. For jealousy is that which makes the gods fight themselves and the homos also go about to kill themselves because of jealousy. Is it not for your jealous eyes you have thought, saying, these people came from foreign land and possessed our land.
15. And they even became very rich upon our resources. Therefore we shall touch them and torture them. And so you did to us who have done no evil to you.
16. Have you not heard the proverb of the land, saying, things upon the earth go in cycles. And if you do evil today, it shall have a way of coming back to you. For one evil leads to another.
17. Is it not through jealousy my younger brother Onoto made sure that I was exiled from my native land? For he was jealous of my position as the heir to the throne of our father. And he framed me up.
18. And this led to many tragedies after.
19. And now again have you decided to cause another uproar through jealousy, but nature has prevented you from doing it. And the evil which you planned for me have turned upon your head.
20. Now they wept greatly before Obaro and sought for his forgiveness. And Obaro forgave them and said, stay in the farm and I shall go and plead with Nosakare the king if he would accept you back.
21. Now Anayamisi heard them and said, father, let them go, for they are not worth pleading for. Did you not see how they starved my sons even to the coming out of their ribs from their chests?
22. Is such evil pardonable at all?
23. And Obaro said, no evil is unpardonable if there is genuine change of mind.
24. And Obaro went to the king and pleaded with him to forgive the criminals. And the king said, even if they go to the top of Alubode hill to pray to the gods, I Nosakare the son of Odemwingie shall not reverse my decision. And if they go and hold tight to the great stone of our god, I shall not be moved.
25. And Obaro returned to the five and said to them, the king has refused my proposal, but if you wish, I would ease your journey. For as Osaro did to me when I was exiled shall I also do to you.
26. For he fed me and clothed me and my wife. And he gave us shelter. Now go to Itaho and tell them that I, Obaro have sent you to that land. And you shall meet Adabara or any of his brothers, for they are my younger ones.
27. And they shall welcome you well and give you houses and land. And you shall be well treated by them.
28. And Amowie said, what shall make your brothers believe us? For they shall request from us a thing as a token of belief. Or they shall crush us to death, for I have heard that Adabara and the rest of your brothers are great warriors.
29. And Obaro went and gave them a little seat which he carried out of Okerune in the day when he was sent out of it. For the seat did he make out of bamboo tree in those days and it was very strong.
30. And Obaro said, this seat shall be a token. And they shall not doubt you when they see it. Only tell them that it is the 'Ipeku Aduho' and they shall not doubt you.
31. So they went to Itaho and were well accepted. And they were given lands to cultivate and houses to live in.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 3:58am On Jun 14, 2017

Chapter Twenty-One
1. Now the children of Ireyi went to Itaho first and there they found Adabara and his brothers. And the land of Itaho had expanded, for many homos had become to visit the place to buy and to sell.
2. And from Nam and Nzamu in the south east of Itaho and Okerune did many homos come to sell in Itaho. And Adabara was he who was very skilled in the matter of trade.
3. Now when Adabara saw the children of Ireyi, he said, surely you have come for battle. For your father gave my father no rest when Eniyamere departed with Aduho, so also are you to us.
4. But we shall not be silent as Enesi our father, but we shall resist you quickly.
5. And Ochiiji said, we have not come for battle but for peace. For you should wait until you gave heard from our mouths before you decide what you shall do to us.
6. Now Ochiiji told Adabara how he had seen Aduho and Eniyamere together in Ubini. And Ochiiji told also of the innocence of Aduho. And Adabara and his brothers were glad about the news.
7. And they went with the sons of Ireyi to Ubini to see their brother, the firstborn of Enesi.
8. Now when Aduho set eyes on his brothers, he was very glad. And Aduho said, I have become great in this land. And my name is called Obaro and not Aduho anymore. For Osaro And Eniyamere also was glad to see his brothers. And she said, where is Onume? And they said, do you speak as if you do not know him?
9. For he said that you should come and see him and not that he should come here. And Eniyamere said, Onume is truly what I have always known him to be and he has not changed.
10. And his style of life is even that which endears me to him. For he is true to himself and he does not make his decisions based on what others say but only on what he felt as the right thing to do.
11. Now Onume have won my heart and I shall surprise him. For I shall go and see him in Okerune, only let one of you go with me. And Adomuha went to Okerune with Eniyamere after two weeks. And when Onume saw her, he was humbled.
12. And he could barely believe it. And Eniyamere said, surely Onume, you are truly the son of your mother. For your have played to your nature and it is you who should be called an unmoved mountain.
13. And Onume was short of words. And he said, forgive me sister, for I am guilty. And Onume embraced his sister and they wept.
14. However, Onume did not leave Okerune for Ubini after that. For he did that which he believed was right in his discretion. And all the children of Ireyi prospered in the places where they had been.

Christianity Etc › Re: "Those Who Want Nigeria To Divide Are Agents Of The Devil" - Bishop Adeoye by OtemAtum: 3:47am On Jun 14, 2017

[quote author=Iseoluwani post=57492101]Otem, were you banned or what, the moniker you do use has a long name na

Meanwhile how u doing with anti thesis class[quote]yes I was banned. But what do u mean by antithesis class?

Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Signal! Beware by OtemAtum: 7:38pm On Jun 13, 2017

OP Julivas, you dey fear now when guys neva start to dey draw 666 tatoo for body abi. Just wait for three to five years time or thereabout when a craze of 666 tattoo will be globally done. I wonder how you will scare your heart by then.

Christians and fear fear are like 5 and 6 grin

~~#ScareTheSheeple~~ FreeTheSheeple ,D

Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Signal! Beware by OtemAtum: 7:33pm On Jun 13, 2017

jonbellion:
Mumu

Christianity Etc › Re: "Those Who Want Nigeria To Divide Are Agents Of The Devil" - Bishop Adeoye by OtemAtum: 7:15pm On Jun 13, 2017

Thread is senseless. How soon does de-amalgamation amount to the work of devils? It doesn't add up.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Thinkers, What Do You Do When The Sheeples Come With Promise Cards? by OtemAtum(op): 4:01pm On Jun 13, 2017

MsRoe:
I don't see the challenge. And wtf is a promise card?

Some kinda cards or envelopes where they want you to write the amount of money you want to help their church with.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Thinkers, What Do You Do When The Sheeples Come With Promise Cards? by OtemAtum(op): 3:52pm On Jun 13, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
I usually support except its coming from one of those fundamentalist hell fire Christians, then I'll tell them I'm short of cash

I'm glad the proposal came when I actually forgot my cash at home. I just said, there is no money on me, else I would have dropped something.

Christianity Etc › Atheists, Thinkers, What Do You Do When The Sheeples Come With Promise Cards? by OtemAtum(op): 3:13pm On Jun 13, 2017

The sheeple(christians) friends around me often ask for my help and I render financial help when I can. But if they ask me anything as low as #50 for offering, I always refuse them. But here comes another challenge in form of a BUILDING PROJECT CARD. This person isn't too close to me, else I would have jokingly refused her. She wants me to SUPPORT the building project as she would write down my name in her 'Promise Card' and the amount I want to donate to support the House of the Sheeple.

Has any thinker been faced with such challenge since you take away your life from fictitious jesus? What did you do, did you give the person such money?

Hahn, Realmindz, Hopefullandlord, Dalaman, Mrmister, Anonynymous, Hardmirror, Lordcenturion, Joseff14, Akintom, Seun, Johnydon22, ValentineMary, Lepasharon etc

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Brother Said My Dad's Oracle Will Hunt Me... by OtemAtum: 1:13pm On Jun 13, 2017

First of all, you have religious intolerance by destroying the objects your father use for meditation. That's sheer ignorance on your part. You could destory it if only you bought it with your own money, not when it belongs to someone else. Every religion tries to possess at least one or more object of meditation and it is not a bad thing.
Nothing will actually haunt you, because these objects of meditation don't have any power in themselves. E.g the bible, the crucifix, the muslim tesbil and the rosaries if destroyed has no implications. But it is wrong to destroy any of them if they do not belong to you.

You may destory a million ifa objects so far you purchase them. You may destroy a million bible if they are yours, but if they aren't yours, then it is wrong.

In conclusion, it is wrong for you to destroy your father's object of meditation, but still there is no implication. It's a forgivable mistake and your father's spirit would have forgiven you already in his afterlife where he now knows more about life.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Can One Get Morning Water At The Synagogue Church? by OtemAtum: 1:04pm On Jun 13, 2017

lol. Here's the domain of the gullible sheeple. Morning and night water, lol grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Fiction Called Doctufos By Otemanuduno by OtemAtum: 12:56am On Jun 13, 2017

chalantmike:
the Doctufos do yhu have a book of it, yhur knowledge/ truth so far collected in one book. I would like to have it.

Everything you need about the Doctufos is here on this link for now. Just click and you are there https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Cant The gods Or Supreme Being Of This Earth Stop Boko Haram??? by OtemAtum: 12:48am On Jun 13, 2017

God Almighty, the highest consciousness, the greatest energy, the creator of Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda and all other little little gods do not see things as we see it. Killing of humans by humans is against human ethics and offenders should be punished by humans. God Almighty, the highest consciousness has put souls which never dies in human bodies and these souls explore one reality and the other. Death is a change of state for the souls and God does not see a change of state as something he should prevent. But we humans who see this change of state as evil should do all best possible to prevent death by ourselves by:

1. Enlightening the gullible followers of the gods like Yahweh, Faulkin etc to go for medical checkups when they are sick rather than wasting a part of there life praying to their talkative god.

2. Educating the violent followers of a god such as Allah that they should calm down and think from their heads like human beings for once, rather than bouncing about to kill people.

May nature and the light of the highest consciousness quickly speed up the rate at which the northern muslims and the christian sheeple gain intelligence and become a thinker as nature wishes. Ase!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Lady Says She Woke Up On Her Way To The Mortuary After Being Declared Dead. PICS by OtemAtum: 9:57pm On Jun 12, 2017

TonyeBarcanista:
Is this some fiction?

No it is not. It is the hidden scrolls of truth which the good gods are revealing in this age.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 9:20pm On Jun 12, 2017*

Chapter Twenty
1. Now Ochiiji rode upon a horse and two servants followed him with horses also. And when he reached Ireyi his village, he found that it had been destroyed. And he wondered and feared greatly for the lives of his people, saying what has befallen them?
2. Now Ochiiji came off his horse and went alone towards a lonely cave. And he stepped gently into it. And while he was at the midst of it, some hands grabbed him and pulled him in.
3. And the people pulled him to the ground and raised their knives to kill him. And he pleaded for his life. And those who grabbed him stopped and put on their light to see he who spoke their language.
4. And they said, he is Ochiiji our brother. And Ochiiji saw that they were his brothers and the guards who were in Ireyi before. And Ochiiji said, what has happened to you? Why have you left Ireyi?
5. And they said, the homo-eaters disturbed us greatly. And they came to trouble our home. And they killed five of our children for food. And Ochiiji was afraid when he heard this. And they told him, saying, do not bother, for your own wife and children escaped them. And we have sent them to Okerune to find how they shall survive there.
6. And your brother who is also your co-husband has gone with Barauya and the four children to Okerune saying that it would be better there than here, for no place can be better than home.
7. And we have refused to go with them, but we hide everywhere in caves here and watch out for the homo-eaters. For they are very dangerous. And we kill them anytime we sight them. For you could have been killed as one of them if not for the language which you spoke when we wielded the knife before your face.
8. Now Ochiiji told them of Eniyamere and they were glad to hear the good tiding. And Ochiiji said, there are enough land for you to farm. And you can fish also. Therefore come with me, but first I shall reach Okerune to find the brothers of Aduho and they shall go with us to the land of Ubini also.
9. And I shall fetch also my wife Barauya and our children.
10. Now the brothers of Ochiiji followed him to Okerune with their families. And the king accepted them well, even as he did accept the first five guards who returned to the lands some years back.
11. For Onovo the Ohinoyi had rewarded them for bringing the news to Okerune that there existed some homos who eat homos like themselves. And the king had since then prepared for them, making sure that there were many guards to guard the land against such beings.
12. And Onovo said, we have taken one of them alive when he came into this land. For the guards who were one of you said that they had seen him before among those who ate Ajagu the chief of the guards of Ohinoyi Aruvo whom I have succeeded.
13. Now Ochiiji went and met his wife Barauya and his partner and brother, Onume. And he said to them, let us depart to see Eniyamere our sister who went away with Aduho. For I have found her and the bracelet which our father gave to us is now on her waist.
14. And Onume said, I do not have the eagerness to seek after her anymore. For if indeed you have given her the bracelet already, then let that be enough for her. For what benefit is it to go and look for her again?
15. Do you not know how many homos have died searching for her? The chief of the guards and the others whom the homo-eaters of Nzamu have eaten; the children of my brothers who became food to the mouths of the homo-eaters, all these are as a result of the foolish action of Eniyamere.
16. Now go and tell her that I Onume, the son of Ireyi, do not wish to see her. For I have fully settled down again in Okerune after leaving it to risk my life for seven years and nine months searching for her.
17. Now when Ochiiji heard the words of Onume, he became very weak. And all the joy and eagerness with which he had brought the news to him became sour sadness. And he became weak.
18. And Ochiiji remained till the next day. And all his brothers came to join him in the house of Barauya. And Ochiiji said to his brothers, shall you help me persuade Onume that he should come with us to see Eniyamere? For he has refused to go with us, saying, it is of no benefit.
19. Now Adomuha said, why does it not excite you, O Onume, to see our sister? And Onume said, is she the only sister we have? Do we not know the husbands of our other sisters? And Ireyi our father blessed the marriages of them all. And they do well in thier husband's houses.
20. So now, what is it which is special about Eniyamere? For even all our sisters who married legitimately scarcely see my face in their houses, how much less shall that of Eniyamere be, except for the fact that she is the only daughter of our mother?
21. But because of her did we face tough times and endangered our lives. And some of you even lose your children to the homo-eaters.
22. And Onayi said, it is not reasonable to blame the journey of your life on anyone. For life itself is like a long chain pulling all its elements along, whereby the occurrence of one thing depends on another. And if we were to blame any, we shall end up blaming all.
23. For first, we shall blame Onoto for framing up his brother Aduho. Then we shall blame Enesi for sending Aduho away falsely without checking the truth of the matter properly.
24. And we shall blame Eniyamere for ever loving Aduho at all. And Aduho also shall we blame for allowing Eniyamere to depart with her. And we shall blame everyone in the village for not believing Aduho, which was why the reason Eniyamere his lover had great compassion for him and made up her mind to accompany him.
25. And ourselves shall we blame also for shouting at her when she came to us weeping about the one whom she loved. And we shall blame also our mother who gave our father a bracelet, saying, go about to find Eniyamere. And our father shall we also blame for sending us the errand. And we shall blame ourselves again for stopping by to start that unsuccessful village called Ireyi. And we shall blame also the evil homo-eaters who killed our children and some of the guards.
26. Therefore let blame be put aside, for life itself seemed as if it is preplanned or pre-imagined by some beings or forces who are greater than us.
27. Now Onume, put that which is past in the place which it belongs and let us march together to the future.
28. And Onume said, I shall not go with you, but my spirit shall accompany you.
29. And when Ochiiji and his brothers and their children were about to go, there arose a dispute between Ochiiji and Onume concerning the children which their wife Barauya had for them.
30. For Barauya had four children for them both and it did not occur to the two husbands that they shall go apart one day. Now Ochiiji and Onume looked very much alike, therefore it was very difficult for them to know which children belong to one and which belong to the other.
31. And Ochiiji said, take all of them, for I shall go and have my own wife and children in Ubini. For I have been given a house and farmlands. And there shall I establish and be great.

Christianity Etc › Re: Lady Says She Woke Up On Her Way To The Mortuary After Being Declared Dead. PICS by OtemAtum: 9:05pm On Jun 12, 2017

A good one. She can't die when it isn't her time yet. If it is one religious pastorpreneur or a 419 now, they would come and be telling us story of one eternal fire which their god has made for them for their temporal human mistakes on earth. Mtchew. What I heard and saw when I died too, nobody would believe it in this religous-drained country.
Anyway, here is an account of Mullah who died also and saw it all:

DOCTUFOS: Histar 2:1-31

1. Now during the days of my deep thought, I died and saw places filled with peace of mind and quietness. And I wondered how such a place could be.
2. And I saw my own ancestors and one of my brothers who died during a war. And they said to me, return to the earth, for it is not your time to be here.
3. And I said, it is selfishness, for what is it that I should return to the earth doing when there is a place of rest like this?
4. And they said, there is one thing left you shall do on earth before you come here. For this is the valley of knowledge. And your return shall make you a god and no more a homo Erectus.
5. Now I said, why shall my return make me a god? And they said, fearlessness is inherited by a god and fear belongs to a homo. For the major difference between a god and a homo is fear.
6. Now O Mulah, do you think that all the gods you have heard of are the Creator GOD? I tell you No! For many of them became gods after dying and seeing what life after death is like. For Budda is one such example, who came to this Valley of knowledge when his heart vibration was connected to the frequency of vibration of this place.
7. And his brain code brought him here. And he said, let me rather return to the earth and teach the homos how to live through life fearlessly through meditation, rather than living in fear all through their lives.
8. And we told him to go and do according as he wished.
9. Now I Mulah asked my father, saying, shall you not take me to father? And my father said, who is father? And I say, Yahweh our father.
10. And he laughed and said, if you live in Deutsch and hear such and such things about another country, you shall think that it is so until you go to that country and find it not totally as they have told you.
11. So also are the afterlives described by the inks and books of the scribes of religions. For Yahweh is not whom you think him to be. For he lurks around the gates of this Valley to lure people to another place where illusions of fire is made for them.
12. Did I not partake also in the illusion of fire because of the thoughts of my mind? For on my dying bed, I listened to the Krishtens who spoke kindly to me and by so doing, I did accept whatever judgement I should be judged with.
13. And when my eyes were shut, I saw myself following after one who wore white cloth. And he led me to a place full of fire. And he laughed and said, you have believed in me, therefore wherever I put you shall be your place.
14. I am Faulkin the son of Yahweh. You are found guilty of a sin which you did not confess before you die.
15. Now I asked, saying, what is the sin which I did not confess? And he said, did you confess all your sins? And I thought deeply and said, I can't remember all the sins I have ever committed.
16. And he said, as long as you cannot remember all your sins, then it is reasonable to say that there are some of them which you have not confessed.
17. And I said, lord if you know my sins, tell me now and let me confess them. And Yeshua said, it is too late. Come with me.
18. And I followed after him into a fire. And I saw in it a creature whose figure was great and the terror of his face was mighty.
19. And he said, I am Satan. And while I wailed in the fire, he laughed and said, I have all the power and authority to punish your species in my everlasting fire.
20. Now there were some who screamed and cursed, saying, God, you are evil. For you have made this fire to torment us and not to even torment Satan as your book have said. For this Satan does not even appear as if the fire hurts him at all. And all his angels are not affected by your fire also. For they laugh weird laughter at us and punish us, feeling no pain at all.
21. And we cry in the fire, but Satan whom you have made the fire for is always laughing in it. For he feels no pain at all. And he still has the strength to strike us with his weapons, laughing hard. Yet you said that you have made this place for Satan and his angels.
22. Now while they wailed, the evil creature said, I am your god Yahweh, the deceiver himself. I have made the fire for you because you become my followers on earth and then you are bound by my laws.
23. For my laws cannot be broken. For if you break any of my laws, you shall be punished here forever.
24. Now while our wailings continued, a great light came and lightened up the darkness of the smoke of fire. And we heard a voice, saying, I have come to free your souls. For you are seeing the illusions of what you believe in. For you are not in any real fire, but you suffer the imagination of the god whom you worship. For like one on earth who take the weed of tekum and see hallucinations of fire, so are you all.
25. For the afterlife is like a dream of never returning. Now imagine the afterlifes of your choice and you shall find yourself there.
26. And it was so, for every afterlife we all imagined became the places we went. But the imaginations were not our own originally, for our thoughts only matched the thoughts of some good gods who have themselves by their imaginations made good afterlives thousands of years before.
27. And I found myself in this peaceful Valley which I have imagined, knowing not that it is really in existence.
28. And your mother found herself in an afterlife where pets are in abundance, for she imagined that she was with her dead pet dog Ruchi. And she found herself with her. And she was amazed.
29. And when she imagined this Valley of knowledge, she appeared here also. And we were united again.
30. And we become your Guardian angels, saying, when Mulah shall die, we shall not let him pass through the fire of Yahweh at all as we passed through it.
31. Now Mulah, this is the message which you shall take to the world. For some shall know how to submit to their own instincts rather than the philosophy of a god.

For more, visit this link: https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Battle Is Getting Interesting by OtemAtum: 7:35pm On Jun 12, 2017

Nostradamus:
henrydion congrats on finally becoming a god, me i woke up too late, i started the power meditation demigods666 gave me just late, now am currently spinning the chakras, after the 40 days is over and i have strengthed my soul,i will open a thread here to also try and wake people up in my own little way

WE ARE IN AN ERA WHERE EVERYBODY SEES HIMSELF OR HERSELF AS A god OR A goddess.
There is joy in my mind over one female that is able to beat all odds and know herself as a goddess than over a hundred males who realises that they are gods. Why? because the evil religions have relegated the female to the minimum manner of reasoning such that it takes extraordinary process of thinking for a female to break lose from inferiority mentality and the stupid do-as-I-say of the religious scribes. I respect the few non-religious female thinkers we have on this platform, the likes of Lepasharon and ValentineMary. I wonder how they were able to break up with fictitious Jesus and divorce his arsse as they did huh

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Find This Topic 'blasphemy Of The Holy Spirit' So Challenging.Bible Scholars by OtemAtum: 5:37pm On Jun 12, 2017

analice107:
Otem you are not a human being, you are a do.g. Don't you ever address me, ever.

How can a dog name his dog after the name of your god Yahweh? Is that possible?

Crime › Re: Killer of US Army veteran Chuks Okebata shot dead in Abia by OtemAtum: 1:29pm On Jun 12, 2017

Death by barter

Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 1:28pm On Jun 12, 2017

Chapter Eighteen
1. Now Aduho welcomed his cousin very well. And he gave him a house and servants to help him. And he gave to him also large farmyards and servants to work upon the land. And they spoke concerning all the things which had happened.
2. And Aduho said, I am not called Aduho in this land, but Obaro am I called. And he who took care of me when I came here dis say to me that I should not change the name after his death. For his own name is Osaro.
3. Now Ochiiji, call me Obaro, for I was rooted out of my own land and I have taken root in this land. But you shall do to me a favour. You shall go to my brothers in Okerune and tell them that you have found me. And you shall tell them that our ancestors have favoured me.
4. For they know that the thing which Enesi my father accused me of, I was not guilty of it. For I did not kill Onoto.
5. And Ochiiji said, you have truly lost contact of the things which were happening in your native land. For you do not know how your brothers also offended your father by killing another child whom your father had and named Onoto.
6. For indeed your father had his lastborn son and named him Onoto, saying that he was the return of the first Onoto whom they accused you of killing. And he made a promise to the mother of that baby, saying, Onuchi, your son shall be the heir to the throne.
7. And when Adabara the third born of your father heard this, he called all the rest of your brothers together and they took the little child and burnt him up. And one of your sisters saw what they did. And she told Enesi your father about it.
8. And Enesi wept upon the throne, whose thing is a great abomination in the land. And Enesi conferred his position upon Ohinoyi, the husband of his elder sister. And so did the name of Ohinoyi become a title for the rulers of our native land till these days.
9. And Enesi your father exiled himself from the land after. And few years ago, he was brought back to Okerune to be buried, but Aruvo the son of Ohinoyi who took up the rulership from his father refused that your father should be buried in his native land.
10. And I hear that Adabara and his brothers who were then living in another land heard of it and fought the king and killed him. And they buried your father in the palace.
11. Now Obaro said, Enesi my father have suffered so much pains. For before his eyes did Onoto his son die. And that whom he took as his reincarnate also did my brothers kill. These are enough to have made him die early, but according to this which you have said, I have seen that he died at an old age.
12. And I am glad also for that which I heard concerning Ohinoyi the husband of my aunt. For he was a very cool and gentle homo. And he did not covet anything, neither did he treat Eniyamere my aunt badly.
13. And his meekness and gentleness was great and well known in the land. But he died at an age not fair enough for a good homo whom he was. But death has no regard for age indeed. And it does not care whether you are a day old or a month old or a teenager or a young man.
14. But it comes according to its own decision. For if I am death, I would fetch away the wicked and leave the good and kind homo of the world to live long. And I shall not play close to the young ones.
15. But why did the offspring of a good man do all such evils which you told me about, O Ochiiji? For Ohinoyi is a very good homo and his wife Eniyamere who is my aunt is full of only good deeds, but how did they give birth to a homo who has no heart at all?
16. Is it possible for a dolphin to give birth to a shark? Or how can a butterfly give birth to a bee? But this good couple have given birth to an evil being as Aruvo. For according to all which you have told me of him, if they are true, then I can say that he did not learn any of it from his parents.
17. Now Ochiiji settled upon the land. And Obaro said to him, go and tell my brothers what I have told you. And let them come here to see my face. And we shall express our emotions of joy which shall be in our memory forever.
18. And Ochiiji said, it is not only your brothers I shall bring, but the brothers of your wife shall I also bring. For they desire to see her much more than your own brothers would desire to see you.
19. For our search for her was it which led us into a bush which we now call a home. And hardly does a homo pass through that land, except the homo-eaters and they who were exiled from their own lands.
20. Now Ochiiji departed the land of Ubini after three months, promising to return with all they whom he had promised Obaro.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 12:27pm On Jun 12, 2017

Chapter Seventeen
1. Now when the houses of Ireyi had begun to blossom, the children of Ireyi remembered again that they had not sought after Eniyamere their sister who was missing.
2. And Ochiiji said to his brothers, let us arise again and leave Ireyi, for we have dwelt here for seven years. And we have children already. But our father shall not be glad in their afterlives if he sees how we dwell comfortably without seeking after our sister who is missing.
3. And Onume said, if our father is still interested that we should find our sister who left home stubbornly, then he should show to us in a trance where she is. For what is our fault in this?
4. Are the dead not more perfect in knowledge than the living? Therefore let our father reveal where she is to us and make an end to this meaningless journey.
5. And Ochiiji said, do not speak in such manner Onume. For if we find her, it could bring us more glory. For this land which you rest is not even comfortable for habitation. And who knows if the land where Eniyamere has gone to be is a land of great beauty at this moment?
6. And all the brothers of Ochiiji said, go if you want. Take the bracelet with you and we shall follow you with our spirit. And our father shall help you to locate Eniyamere our hard-hearted sister. But as for us, we shall not depart from this land to anywhere.
7. Now Ochiiji took the bracelet. And it was very old, for its colour had faded greatly. And Ochiiji began to walk from one place to another. And he passed through a land called Utedo and Imiri. And he passed through Bende also.
8. And at Bende, Ochiiji wept bitterly to sleep. For he was tired of the journey without any direction. And Ochiiji felt his soul leave his body. And he saw himself with Eniyamere how she was twenty-seven years before.
9. And Ochiiji said, sister, why do you shed tears so much? And she said, our uncle Enesi is sending Aduho away from the land because of the death of Onoto.
10. And Ochiiji said, how does that concern you so much? And Eniyamere said, do not pretend as if you do not know how I love Aduho. And we have spoken concerning how we shall be married. Now if Aduho goes on exile, I shall die being alone.
11. And Ochiiji said, do not let father hear this thing. For there are many men in Okerune whom you can be a wife to. How do you want to die for Aduho who killed his brother?
12. And Eniyamere said, why do you all disbelieve Aduho? For only I know that he is a righteous homo. But all homos in the village have condemned him for what he did not know anything about.
13. Now Ochiiji said, where shall Aduho go if he departs the land? And Eniyamere said, I do not know, but I shall tell you if I ask him in the evening.
14. Now Ochiiji woke up suddenly from his sleep and wondered, saying, how did I see Eniyamere as she was twenty-seven years before? And we spoke clearly and the dream was very clear.
15. And Ochiiji said, O that the dream would continue, for I asked her where Aduho shall go and she said that she would ask him in the evening. Now when shall the evening be? How can this dream continue?
16. And Ochiiji wept deep into the early hours of the morning. And he slept off just at dusk. And the dream continued from where it stopped before. And Ochiiji said to Eniyamere, tell me now, where shall Aduho go?
17. And she said, I shall not tell you. For I have planned to flee with him to that place. And if I tell you, shall you not send father after me to fetch me? And Ochiiji swore by his ancestors, saying, I shall not tell father.
18. And Eniyamere said, Aduho shall go to Ubini, in the land down south of our lands. And Ochiiji said, I shall keep my promise.
19. Now Ochiiji woke up and said, this is an unusual dream, for it has taken me back to the times of my teens. And if only it could be so in real life, I would not have hesitated to remain there.
20. Now I shall follow this dream and go down to Ubini. And this shall be the wonder of all wonders if I found them there. So did Ochiiji journey southward towards Ubini. And he was on the journey for ten days.
21. Now when Ochiiji got to Ubini, he was very dirty and sick. And his appearance was like that of a mad homo. And he folded up like a tortoise in its shell beside a river. And when little children of the land came to fetch water, they ran away from him, for they could not fetch water.
22. And the thing got to the ruler of the land. And he said, go and fetch the mad man so that I could see him. And the guards of the King went and fetched him.
23. And Ochiiji could not rise up for he was weak and hungry. And he said, O king, may you live forever. Do not look at me as a mad homo, for I am healthy in the mind but sick in the body.
24. And if a lump of cassava flour and palm wine shall be made to pass down my throat into this flat belly, I shall be able to rise up. And the ruler said, what is your name? And he said Ochiiji in the yooba language which the ruler also understood.
25. And the king said, give him food to eat and water to drink. And let him bath all the dirt from his body. And let him come to stand before me and speak in the presence of all my chiefs. And Ochiiji ate and drank and took his bath.
26. And he went and sat in the midst of all the chiefs of the land. And the king said, where do you come from and what is your mission in this land? And he said, I am from the ebira lands northward.
27. And the king said, come closer Eniyamere, for one from your village is here. Now when Ochiiji heard the name which the king called, he was surprised, however, the tone of the king sounded as if he called another name and not the name of his own younger sister.
28. For he called it "Eè ní yáa méré" in the yooba accent, which by interpretation was will you not just flee?
29. Now when Ochiiji raised his face up to look up, he saw Eniyamere. And she was dressed so well like a great chief in the land. And she wrapped costly shawl on her body. And her dressing was made very fashionable with beads.
30. And Eniyamere came before Ochiiji and said in the Ebir tongue, who are you and what have you come to do in this land? And Ochiiji said, poor little sister, do you not recognise your brother again?
31. And Eniyamere set her eyes firmly upon him and said, Ochiiji! And he said, it is I. And Eniyamere went on her knees before him and wept. And she took him to her house.
32. And she asked about all her people; her father and all her brothers and sisters. And Ochiiji told her all the things which had happened. And they were glad that they could set eyes on one another again.
33. And Ochiiji gave her the bracelet, saying, father has kept this for you that you should use it when you are married. But you left and he could not fulfill the promise which he made to his wife, saying, I shall give the bracelet to your daughter.
34. Now I have fulfilled the mission on his behalf.
35. When Eniyamere heard this, she went on her knees and wept bitterly. And she said, I have hurt my father and all those who loved me in Ebir. For in my selfishness did I depart the land, not considering how many people depended on me to be happy.
36. Now I shall teach the young girls of the land that they should not do as I did. For even Aduho whom I fled away with has three more wives already. And I am not his favourite anymore. And he speaks also of having another wife.
37. But I do not totally regret my action, for I have a great position here in Ubini which I would not have had if I was in Okerune. And all the girls and young women of this land have they put under my charge to help them mould their lives very well.
38. And my husband and I have enough land for farming and many fish ponds. And we live happily together in this place.

Christianity Etc › Re: What We Lost Because Of Christianity In Africa. by OtemAtum: 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2017

GoodMuyis:
A google search will help you, I believe you have done it before.
if Atum is useless here to provide the answer, I cant help either

LOL, Samogugua yaff vex. Sorry but me thinks it's idolatry for you to believe in Yahweh and Olorun at the same time. You should have held on to Yahweh alone and term Olorun as an idol according to your holy book huh

Just saying though cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Prophets That Call Phone Number by OtemAtum: 1:26am On Jun 12, 2017

toragema:
Antichrist.Get lost satan

Yahweh aka Satan knows his name Satan and nobody contends with him for such name. I am Otem of truth. I have come into this world to make the truth known and Satan(Yahweh) and Allah and all evil gods cannot stop me.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by OtemAtum: 1:23am On Jun 12, 2017

Ngo40:
Otem,
Brother I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm not gonna read through your "doctufos of truth".....
I'm sorry....but I don't want another headache this evening ok?
Sorry about that...

lol...anyway, the doctufos of truth isn't mine, but the universal truth. It isn't by force that you should read it, because those who will read it letter for letter and know the truth are not yet born. They are the generation of the ingullible thinkers. Anyway, thanks for your polite manner of response. wink

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Christianity Etc › Re: What We Lost Because Of Christianity In Africa. by OtemAtum: 1:06am On Jun 12, 2017

GoodMuyis:
Do you know that if not for Christianity, Fulani Jihadist would have taken over Whole Nigeria.

The white not only plan to Bring Christianity but to stop the Jihadist advancing as well.

So stop there make we here word.

Nairaland atheists folly is becoming something else. If not stupid question that only require Google search, it will be recycled ones. na seun fault wey no give them their room

Your signature is a contradiction of Christianity. To start with, are you monotheistic or a pagan? I thought the bible said all other gods apart from yahweh are the works of men. How come that statement in your profile said that, "Mad person says that there is no Olorun?" huh

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Conceal His Identity? by OtemAtum: 12:53am On Jun 12, 2017

andyboi4real:
I just finished reading the Bible, when I realised that God Has never lived among men. The closest he came was when he visited Adam and Eve in The Garden Of Eden, Apart From Them only Moses has come Closer to Seeing God and then he only saw the back of God.
So I was wondering why does God hide his identity, is he afraid of his creatures or perhaps he is a proud person that takes Glory in his invincibility or maybe he is not as Beautiful as the Bible describes him to be?

That one isn't even God Almighty but one of his numerous creatures. God Almighty is in everything and does not appear to anybody physically as Yahweh and Allah his children did. . https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/

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