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Danki:
But its OK for you and your gang to insult me, talk down on me and dismiss my relationship with God just because you see yourselves as superior Christians?

For the records sir, I never insulted anybody here. I don't even insult the so called unbelievers not to talk of people who see Angels and Jesus. Well, except what you mean by insult is calling them what they are.

Once again, Christianity is not a competition.

enjoy

Danki:
And you call yourself a Christian with this reply?

Please Sir, this is an open thread. Face other issues and leave mine out. There are still other people who are now finding out my major complaint.

Thanks.

oh you still depend on people? I tot u had all d answers u need in ur dreams. Well Goodluck with dat. And do not insult sis Analice or anyone here anymore whether stylishly or directly. Enjoy

@busybody- y don't u open a thread on dis topic and mention me. I'll be willing answer all d question you want but i think majority of people on dis thread av enough of dis particular persons case.
@danki, sort ur self out. Y don't u keep on dreaming and living a dream. You should spend more time sleeping and dreaming than getting worried about wat anyone is doing on dis thread. Dream on

Busybody2:
GENERAL QUESTION TO ALL CHRISTIANS ON SEUN OSEWA'S NAIRALAND (no answer required)



•Can your Christian religion/Deliverance ministers deliver such powerful cases as Danki's ex?

•Can your Christian religion/Deliverance ministers deliver worse cases than girl X?

•After deliverance, does Christianity segregate these people as sub-humans or can this people go on to marry, have children, be normal again, be rehabilitated and allowed to be integrate into the society as Christians?

•What can one do if told it is the will of God to marry such changed person? (Danki's query and greatest nightmare and predicament)


The end.

Sister there is a big difference between spiritual and carnal issues. Tgere are section on nairaland like romance section, family sections where wen counsel is sought you can think outside the box to profer counsel but wen it comes to seeking spiritual counsel from christians, the Holy Bible is our only basis for counsel and thinking outside the Bible will lead to heretic counsel.
For your questions, it is very possible for the said lady to b delivered and get married to a genuine child of God thereafter. Deliverance is like every work of grace which include salvation healing miracle sanctification and so on. In every work of grace, there is a personally coming to the cross of Christ on d party involved. Just like danki can't get her saved by his will but by her will, so also she can't get delivered just because he is willing. He had been willing all tru d times dey were still together and d fact he is still willing doesn't change anything. He talked about how the lady even made him break his vow. He talked about how the lady has been manipulative both spiritually and physically and how she wouldn't hear anything that had ro do with Christ. He hasn't mentioned any willingness on her part apart from the fact dat he sees her doing stuffs in his dreams. D Bible gives a stern warning about unequal yoking.
Sis i want to sincerely ask you a question. Will you be willing to go into a joint partnership business with a fellow(even if d person is from ur family) if dat fellow is known to be of questionable integrity just because you want to win dat fellow for Christ? Marriage is even more important than dat business.
D counsel uv all given him is out of our sincere love for him but its one thing to seek counsel but another to follow the counsel but at the end let us justify our conscience by telling him the truth according to the Holy scriptures. Shalom

ifenes:
I will make way for them but not fear them. They have the right to practice what they feel is right for them. That doesn't mean I worship them. I will be curious at what they do of course. Satan,demons are words that don't scare me.

so easy to say.

ifenes:
You seem to find it strange that I worship no one?

naa i dont find it strange rather i find it hilarious that you think you worship no one. Am sure you will run at d sight of fettish people like oro and ko

seggzz:
What can you say about this verse?

"For I was born a sinner--yes, from the moment my mother conceived me". Psalm 51:5 (new living translation)

i av explained it to you before but let me assume you didn't read it. Naturally the tendency to commit sin is written in d DNA of everyman but its until we get to know good and bad dat sin becomes activated. D law reveals sin

ifenes:
I don't have to worship anything,do I? Worship is what a slave does. I am a free man.

good luck with that then

ifenes:
Na! Why should I? God is not a name of anyone one,why should I use it. It is a religious code for a slave master/control freak.

keep worshiping the stones and sticks at ur backyard den.

ifenes:
So you don't use the word "olorun"

do you use the word God?

ifenes:
And you happen to know hell fire truly exist?

yes it does cos I believe the Bible

ifenes:
I heard an iidiot translated the bible to yoruba to pass down slavery to lots of yourbas. The funny thing is claiming "Olourn" means God . That got me laughing,both have different meaning. If you pray to Olorun you pray to the yoruba Orishas,I hope you know that?

thank God I call Him YAHWEH.

ifenes:
Sin is only in a Christian's vocabulary. You are a slave to sin if you are a christian. Only Christians do things for reward. I do things based on how I feel and what I think is right. That is the way to grow. Saying infants can go to hell is ignorance.

infants cannot go to hell. I repeat, as long as you know good and bad, you can go to hell. D fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and bad opened the first man to sin

ifenes:
Are you proud to be a Yoruba/black at all? You seem only interested in your slavery religion. I care about Yoruba language and I don't want to see it go extinct. I think our way of life is much better and should be preserved. Don't you think?

there is yoruba bible too you know.
I am a proud Ogbomoso boy but am not proud of our fettishes. Wat did you think pushed alot of our parents to Christianity? Just take a look at Africa magic and see how we African portray ourselves as fettish, wicked, diabolical. Are we gonna also blame d white men for dat?

ifenes:
What is sin? Only Christians can be sinners. If no one believe in god there can be no sin. Sin is a moral code for Christians. I am not a christian,I cannot commit sin. Same applies to babies.

You wish as long as you have a conscience and know good and bad, you can commit sin

ifenes:
Salve obey your master is a famous quote used till this day. Am I wrong oyeludef?

i rather b a slave to God than to be to d devil

seggzz:
Bros, there is no biblical evidence for this your claim. I just gave you some of one of the verse where infants are refer as sinners. And so they will be cast into hell fire if they died. Give me Bible verses to back up your claim.

You might think I am saying that sin and the law are the same. That is not true. But the law was the only way I could learn what sin means. I would never have known it is wrong to want something that is not mine. But the law said, “You must not want what belongs to someone else.” And sin found a way to use that command and make me want all kinds of things that weren’t mine. So sin came to me because of the command. But without the law, sin has no power. Before I knew the law, I was alive. But when I heard the law’s command, sin began to live, and I died spiritually. The command was meant to bring life, but for me it brought death. Sin found a way to fool me by using the command to make me die. Now the law is holy, and the command is holy and right and good. Does this mean that something that is good brought death to me? No, it was sin that used the good command to bring me death. This shows how terrible sin really is. It can use a good command to produce a result that shows sin at its very worst.
Romans 7:7-13 ERV
http://bible.com/406/rom.7.7-13.ERV

ifenes:
I'm asking you instead since you claim to know better. The guy you mentioned was apparently one of the translators used by King James. That doesn't mean the book is not a book of oppression. After all millions were killed for nor not accepting it.

I hope you can defend your integrity and free the way you aggressively defended the bible. You seem like a bible slave to me.

ur ignorance is legendary. Now let me give you free education but don't expect it everytime wen u can simply use google.
The protestant church had just broken out of the Catholic Church and people wanted to know the word of God which was sacred at dat time as it was only Catholic priests dat had access. People like tyndale began to translate it to their local languages and almost other parts of Europe had gotten the Bible in their native language except England where tyndale was from. England was totally under the control of the Catholic Church and so it was prohibited for any one to attempt to translate d Bible from the sacred latin language (just like Koran is in arabic today) to English. Tyndale having been trained and tutored back in the Catholic Church started translation of the Bible into English and he translated majority of the Bible into English before he was caught and killed by order of d English king as at dat time. Few years later king Jame's ascended d throne as d king of England and he didn't succumb to Catholic influence so he gave the permission dat d Bible could b translated into English. 54 scholars who understood d original Language d Bible was written in i.e greek, Aramaic and Hebrew came together to translate it into English and dey used a major part of the work of William tyndale

ifenes:
What was king Jame's role?

dat is d question you were suppose to ask google before coming online to give false information

ifenes:
I'm sure you saw the word "edited". Besides the bible is a tool of oppression. I wish I were that ignorant to be honest.

you obviously are ignorant. Go and google about Williams tyndale

seggzz:
"Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me". - Psalm:51:5. It therefore means infants are sinners.

For all recorded history until now, the highest death rates among humans has been infants. Infants mortality has always been very high. Children are more vulnerable to natural disasters, food shortages, diseases and other things. What kind of God would send this infants to hell fire? Will this people go to heaven? If this infants are going to hell, can we say God is fair enough or wicked?

sin remains dormant in man until the age of accountability it reached. apostle paul was clear on dis in the book of romans. It is d law that gives power to sin and until a child gets old enough to understand good and bad dat sin can take place.

ifenes:
King James himself was a gay King. He killed his mum and wife. He forced his subject to pay hims taxes with the use of the bible. The bible is a tool of oppresion for those who accept it. I don't think you should worry about a book re edited by a mad man.

all ur post reeks of sheer ignorance. Where in history did you ever read dat the KJV bible was written by king James? Google is ur friend

rahymat:
no bt d name sounds familiar

ok. It is found in acts chapter 10 of the Holy Bible. You can go through it one ur own if u av a copy of the Bible with you there or u can even read it online. He was the first gentile(non Jew) to be reached with the gospel because God so much loved him for his good works dat he had to send apostle peter to him and his family too.

analice107:
Finally, the purpose for which you came to this thread is beginning to be made manifest. But not with me. Go pick this fight with someone else. I preach the gospel, not cause trouble.

sis please let it slide. Enough has been said already. He that has an ear to hear, let hum Hear

rahymat:
yes bt im confused because he hasnt communicated wit me b4

Do not be confused. God speaks to mankind as d creator of all as long as you are sincere and desire to know him more. Av you ever heard of the story of a man called Cornelius in d Bible?

rahymat:
im not a xtian bt i believe nd God nd jesus as a prophet of God

i believe God is calling you into a walk with Him. Do you usually feel the desire to know God more?

rahymat:
im used to getting called wen am sleeping either by my parents or my siblings nd i always wake up to answer them but today dad went out nd i was alone in d house so i slept suddenly i heard dad voice coming from his room calling my name i answered nd i went to his room bt i was shocked to see nobody there.i even looked for his car around bt it was no where to be found so i asked our guard abt his whereabout he said he hasnt returned.im neither dreaming nor hallucinating because dats dats hw i usually wake up wen he call me nd it was from his room i heard his voice.so i want to ask whether anybody has experienced dis before as its completely strange to me.

av had dat experience quite sometime. The very first one happened after i responded to the call of God to serve him some years ago. At night wen I would sleep den, I will hear a voice giving me instructions. It was usually a familiar voice mainly my dads voice or even my own voice. At first I didn't understand wat was going on but I wasn't scared of the voice cos d instructions i would usually get was to flip my bible to a particular portion of scripture and I will read it and get answer to a pressing question. I knew it was the voice of God but I couldn't share the experience with others because I wasn't aving a portion of scripture to back it up. Years later i read a book by Joyce Meyer on how to hear the voice of God. In d book she spoke about d way God's voice sound to people audibly. She sited d case of Samuel and Eli in d Bible and said God was actually speaking with Eli voice and dat was why Samuel could go three times to Eli afterall it wasn't only the two of them dat were living together at dat time.
D fact dat you are worried about the voice you heard shows dat it is important. I'll advice you pray to God to know d reason He called. If it was a voice ot an evil spirit you heard, it will av almost turn ur head up side down by now.
If I may ask, are you born again?

Dey are not combat soldiers. Nda just started recruiting female into the officer cadre. D female officers in d military are mainly professionals

Dis one just started ooo.

Rahymat i can see you viewing this thread. I saw the thread dis morning about the strange occurrence you had yesterday and I know how frustrating it could be wen everyone is trying to convince you dat u were hallucinating.
Do you mind sharing with us here?

dazzle101:
Thank you sir, I do fully understand the implications inherent. Wasn't planning on doing anything than help with intercessory prayers cos I know not what i'd be dealing with. But I'm certain with the help of God, more shall be revealed. Meanwhile I will talk to his parents about the serious need to help their son for a prayer n deliverance session all in good time.

Thanks so much for your time..

intercession on his behalf will be very ok. God will bring help along his way. Pray his eyes become open so he can see that he is in d midst of intense spiritual battle