₦airaland Forum

CraigB: No it's not unless you want to tell me that Naai-geria will never amount to anything because it doesn't have whites...

It's a rubbish waste-of-time-argument that you should be ashamed of.

You'll never amount to anything because you don't have brains. Simple.

+1, then he looks down on other countries that are trying to progress. He claims that what they are building is useless, at least they are building something without puppet masters. They are even helping out their old puppet masters.

morpheus24: However logical inference is applicable and can be deduced in this instance when observing that the presence of Whites around the globe correlates to the presence of world class infrastructure in any given area they inhabit while the absence thereof within the region of Subsaharan Africa that excludes them correlates to the absence of world class infrastructure.

Come on Craig!

But you find it difficult to deal with anomalies like Angola. What makes them different? Even our friends in the east of Africa are maintaining themselves just fine

all4naija: Stop fooling yourself. Don't compare Angola to Nigeria because it is not a match. You are comparing economy that will probably outperform SA's in the very near future. You are being unreasonable with this your comment, if you asked me.

I don't expect you to understand. Anyway that comment was in reply to a claim that to be a "real African state" you should have no infrastructure or have British infrastructure that has decayed.

morpheus24: I cna laugh too.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I found it very funny that you believe Nigeria has been rebuilding. What have you people built? Its your foreign masters that have been building with the intention of profiteering from you Naijas. You are being used, exploited for a second time.

morpheus24: Is that a trick question?

No

morpheus24: You really don't get Africa do you. Technically Nigeria's been rebuilding since 1999 post military.

LOL, wool over my head. hahahahahahahaha

morpheus24: You keep using that word "inherited". How do you inherit something that technically you still don't own

Good question. Are asking about Nigeria, Namibia or South Africa?

morpheus24: ^^^^

Ps which coutries are you speaking off.

Botswana with 1.5 million people and the rest pretty much desert

Namibia built by the germans... been to swakopmund my dear

or is it mozambic, Zambia, Zim

You amaze these days. Are you blind to the fact that the British built Nigeria but subsequently dilapidated by the natives? Don't hate on other nation that maintain and expand what they inherited.

morpheus24: You mean in Angola where the govt built all those urban houses that pretty much are empty and no-one can afford

or the Angola that pretty much has no industry and imports practically everything into the country.


Now Paniki, you've beenon skyscraper cities for a while, you and I know Abuja Nigeria is comparable to cities in Angola.

LOL, you are a master at psychological projection. This is an illness.

Don't let bad belle cloud your judgement, Angolans have only been rebuilding for about 10 years since the discovery of their oil and end of civil war. What you find now is a country that is empowering itself buy building unlike you people in Nigeria who just destroy. Check out the GDP of Angola and its population, you peeps will never be able to compete because your masters are scattered all over the world. Your psychological projection makes you accuse Angola of import everything, why not look in your backyard first. Hater pot will continue to call kettle black.


"Oho!" said the pot to the kettle;
"You are dirty and ugly and black!
Sure no one would think you were metal,
Except when you're given a crack."

"Not so! not so!" kettle said to the pot;
"'Tis your own dirty image you see;
For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
That your blackness is mirrored in me."

morpheus24: Missing the point aren't we craig. boy you are a numskull aren't u?

logic:

Pseudo African state with largest whitesettler population in Africa.........world class infrastructure

Other real African states without large white population...............no world class infrastructure

Therefore Where would south Africa be without white people. No where. Just another African state. No amount of pics will defeat that point cause you can't argue otherwise unless ofcourse you can transport those 3-5 millions "whiteys" outta there.



Posting pics dont amuse me, sorry??

Morpheus says " let me show how deep the rabbit hole goes"

Watch out you risk offending many states in SADC. So much for your claimed travels in the mother continent, somebody from Angola needs to join this thread and school you on how Africans in the south empower themselves.

morpheus24: Oh yeah one last thing before I run, You know how I know you are a "pale face" in disguise. You never use the phrase "you must" its a dead give away.

Hahaha, that's some dodgy reasoning. Morpheus you used to be a smart guy, bad belle has transformed you.

morpheus24: I am off for a jog on the slum streets of naija......no Whitey in sight.... ahhhhhh how serene,

will be back tomorrow though craig

LOL. That's because whitey has you on remote control. You don't get it, do you?

morpheus24: (Reuters) - South Africa's economy is still mostly under the control of whites who held power under apartheid and the government needs to take more drastic steps to make sure the black majority can benefit from its wealth, President Jacob Zuma said on Tuesday.

Zuma, speaking at the start of a major policy meeting of his ruling African National Congress, said the challenges of poverty, unemployment and inequality posed long-term risks for Africa's richest country 18 years after the end of apartheid.

"The structure of the apartheid-era economy has remained largely intact," Zuma told several thousand ANC delegates.

"The ownership of the economy is still primarily in the hands of white males as it has always been," he said.

The ANC has drafted a raft of policy documents that call on mining firms to pay more to the state to help finance welfare spending. The proposals also advocate relying on state-owned enterprises to be engines of job creation and growth.

"The time has come to do something more drastic towards economic transformation and freedom," Zuma said.

But some economists have warned it would be dangerous to rely on state-owned firms since almost all of them have been mired in debt and management problems.

Zuma also said the debate over how the country's mining wealth should be shared should go beyond simply the question of "to nationalize or not to nationalize."

The party produced a research paper earlier this year saying nationalizing mines could bankrupt the state, but it suggested increasing taxes on windfall mining profits.

Zuma said the conference should consider how the state can obtain an "equitable share" of mineral wealth, which could be used more to benefit poor communities.

He also called for a new programme for land reform, saying the current "willing buyer-willing seller" policy had been too slow in returning white-owned farmland to blacks dispossessed by the apartheid state. But he did not spell out what alternative mechanisms of land ownership transfer should be adopted.

South Africa's black economic empowerment policy designed to give disenfranchised blacks greater ownership of the economy should be strengthened, Zuma added.

This policy has been criticized from within the ANC and by its governing allies in organized labor as only benefiting a small sliver of the population with political ties to the party that has ruled since apartheid ended in 1994.

The policy conference will end on Friday and its deliberations are being held behind closed doors.

(Reporting by Jon Herskovitz and Peroshni Govender; Editing by Pascal Fletcher)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/26/us-safrica-zuma-idUSBRE85P0EE20120626

Ahhhh , stop pating yourself on the back that quick,there's plenty of evidence out that undermines the BEE trickery of those chats

*waits for Jonathan to get some inspiration from Zuma*

morpheus24: I guess those investors must be real air headed running into an economy that is about to collapse. Short term thinkers, don't you think.

Anyone would jump at the opportunity of going to a place that welcomes exploitation of it's people and resources. There's peoples productivity to be taken away in Nigeria hence the "investment".

morpheus24: They stayed behind in your case n still control 90% of your economy. Now thats perpertual abuse man.

But we both know that your puppet economy is controlled by strings that extend to places like USA, UK, India, China, South Africa. You mentioned MTN which controls your telecoms industry along with the Indians, I wont even talk about your oil masters. You peeps think that you are in charge of your economy because whitey is managing you by remote control and them ships off all the profit come financial year-end. That's serious leeching, they just take and take and take from you people.

It might make you Naijas feel good that MTN makes billions of USD from you guys but the truth is that MTN along with other corporation are removing billions of USD from your country - that's leeching bro.

morpheus24: Correction. Whitey already leeched you. Now he's giving you handouts to pacify you in the hopes that you think you will control that economy someday. MTN has weezled its way into Nigeria today because they know the money and potential is there, but woah to the investor that comes into naija, They are in for something else. They really believe they are going to setup shop, steal economic power tand in the future influence the political structure. They got another thing coming bro. UNA NEVER KN.OW NAIJA!!

Tell them to keep bringing the DOLLARS/RANDS into the country, we are waiting!

Correction. Whitey aready leeched you, then left, and now is back for seconds. You peeps like being abused.

morpheus24: Much better than toyi toying all day just to find an excuse not to work and get RDP entitlement packages with free solar panels on their roofs.

STILL WAITING FOR WHITEY TO FEED YOU!

Waiting for whitey to feed me is way better than waiting for whitey to leech all he can from me and my country. I have told you this before: Nigeria's puppet masters such as South Africa are the ones who benefit the most from you people.

hahahaha

More puppet masters advised to attach strings to the "giant of Africa"

I nominate all4naija. lol.

"Oho!" said the pot to the kettle;
"You are dirty and ugly and black!
Sure no one would think you were metal,
Except when you're given a crack."

"Not so! not so!" kettle said to the pot;
"'Tis your own dirty image you see;
For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
That your blackness is mirrored in me."

Comparing Nigeria to Zim is a disgrace because Zimbabweans don't cause decay like Naijas. Zimbabwe is often credited for having a good education system and I can confirm that the Zims that I have encountered are very smart people. The reason why Zim has a good education system is because they inherited it from the British and they haven't changed it even a bit, they still do O-levels and A-levels just like the Brits. Can you see that the Zims know how to maintain stuff unlike Naijas who are only good at destroying. I'm sure that the Zim economy would be multiple times bigger than SA if there were 150 million people living there.

Hater pots keep calling the kettle black. We all know that their country gets ráped by multinational corporations. Not much has changed with that part of the world, it has always been a place to just take - back in the day they were taking people, then they take resources, now they are taking profits. Very little is ploughed back into the despot. All we have are pretenders who fool themselves into believing that there are progressing while they are being leeched. I will continue to say - same 'ol, same 'ol.

morpheus24: Better than a "rainbow' nation that is controlled by a "color" of people thats excluded from the spectrum of colors that make up a true rainbow.

Don't u see the irony in that?

No, I only see the foolishness. All I see is a "giant of African" that takes instruction from IMF, Chinese, British and Dutch oil lords even the very same South Africans you speak of. Too many strings attached to this giant puppet.

morpheus24: Meanwhile in SA, the brains continue to reside in the 3-5 million "whiteys". The rest are just labour working, free loading tender-onies and tax paying zombies. An improvement from the concentration camp bantustans. Hurray for SA!!

Reason you can't respond to the Capetown bru ha ha is because its true. What ever happened to that moratorium on "foreigners" buying property in the cape. Ah, the real economic powers that be put an end to that didn't they? Hmm, makes you wonder, who's running things.


Ps don't let us bring back madam "Beet-root" up in this mug. lol

Rainbow nation my Azz!

So speaks a citizen of a failed state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black

morpheus24: I visit often, does that count

LOL

morpheus24: HA!, speaking about corrupt politicians, really my pale faced saffer. Better run go tell that to them ANC illiterates running around cashing in on connections and letting the Gupta family land planes in offical military bases. Juju is coming after them don't worry.

As for eko atlantic city, well at least 99% ofthe inhabitants will be black naai-gerians which is more than I can say for your beloved capetown which technically isn't even South Africa with all the inland Saffers flocking there to run away from bad service delivery. Its just a new 'settlement' for the brothers/sisters of the old settlers.

LOL. First start telling us about those who will build it

morpheus24: Complete Horse SH^T, even you know thats a lie. Its not you maintaining those urban areas if you care to take a closer look. They just let a handful of ya'll in to pacify you so you don't toi toi and burn town their enclaves.

The British have been directly involved in the establishment or expansion and industrialisation of all major centers in Nigeria. Lagos, Enugu, Benin City, Kaduna, Kano, Port Harcourt, etc. You like to pretend that Nigeria was the forgotten child of the whites. As I explained to all4naija the whites built Nairobi just as well as they built Lagos but you guys have messed up Lagos so much that you believe that whites never set foot on your shores. Just go to Kenya to see how the have maintained what the British set-up.

Keep living in that illusion of yours about the above statment for someone who very likely hasn't been outside the shores of his country. Get a psssport as soon as possible and join your white comprades who are 99% of the people who board planes to Nigeria.

As for the gautrain, next time you are on it, count the number of black people on that train excluding the security guards and tell me who they really built the trains for.

Better yet, go see if you can afford any of those newly built houses in capetown by the seapoint n tell me they are building it for you. Seriously you guys really can't see whats goin on. Are you that blind.

Most be too much of that KFC

Do you think this still-to-be-built Eko Atlantic will be for the everyday Nigerian? Stop fooling your self, Africans on this continent are much alike. Your bad belle makes you try very hard to show a difference but we all now that Naijas can't afford to live in Victoria Island(unless it's the slum on the beach).

BTW, my passport has a 10-year American visa, if I had Naija mentality I would sell everything and buy a one-way plane ticket. Thankfully I enjoy life down south.

all4naija: Hahaha...@The line in bold. You are shameless black person probably living in the slum of Township. Please, your argument is very laughable! You are fooling yourself with this statement when we know the white people you claim left what you inherited are still living in SA. Bwahaha...

Why are South Africans not making use of their brains when debating in this forum?

I have told you this before and I'll tell you again: whites have urbanised every area of Africa where they have settled. The difference is that you guys in Nigeria are good at creating decay, so it's difficult to see any development that the British created. I once gave you an example of Nairobi - Kenya and Harare - Zimbabwe, these cities where built by whites who settled there for a time just like Lagos but the difference is that the Kenyans and Zimbabweans have tried their best to maintain these cities unlike Nigerians whos number one talent is to destroy.

morpheus24: Me, advocate recolonization. You'd have to show me where I said or implied anything like that?

As for developing their country, I believe Nigeria is on par with other African countries like Rwanda and the likes outside of the "Pseudo African state" known as South Africa in understanding the enormity of infrastructure needed. Like most "REAL" African states we can't have 3 million settlers running the economics of the country.

by the way, What ever happened to the Gateway into Africa and BRICs.......Hmmmmm?

Up Juju!,

You speak as if South Africa doesn't need infrastructure. What we inherited is the same as what you peeps got - a handfull of urban areas. Difference is that you guys destroyed them while us down south have been maintaining them and expanding them. When you came down south there was no high-speed train link between the airport and Sandton but now you will find one - this is not inherited infrastructure.