Travel › Re: Most Underdeveloped State Capitals In Nigeria by Pascal9: 1:15pm On May 19, 2023 |
forgiveness: It doesn't change the first Owerri is not in the top 10 of most developed state Capital in Nigeria not to talk of cities.  you have not beem there |
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Travel › Re: Most Underdeveloped State Capitals In Nigeria by Pascal9: 1:13pm On May 19, 2023*. Modified: 8:47am On May 20, 2023 |
Airlord2030: so why do igbo girls keep running away from owerri to portharcourt just to do ashawo work ? why is yoruba selling Agbo, and doing mason in igboland. |
Travel › Re: Most Underdeveloped State Capitals In Nigeria by Pascal9: 1:11pm On May 19, 2023 |
Airlord2030: pack your dirty bags and go back to owerri na.. Abi you don ever see any lagosian wey wan go owerri for ANYTHING before? there are nigerians in niger republic, bene republic, liberia etc, does it make those places better than Nigeria. Igbo xenophobia, i will go back when Biafra come, as long as you people keep looting oil and gas wealth of ss and se i will not go anywhere bigot |
Travel › Re: Most Underdeveloped State Capitals In Nigeria by Pascal9: 1:05pm On May 19, 2023 |
Airlord2030: the people doing that are igbos and you will wonder why they can't stay in their owerri instead of running to portharcourt porthacourt is full of old buildings and narrow roads, Owerri is small but the roads are wide, and beautiful houses and ease of movement.good places to relax and enjoy, good schools and functional night life, what esle do you want. |
Travel › Re: Most Underdeveloped State Capitals In Nigeria by Pascal9: 1:01pm On May 19, 2023 |
Airlord2030: the people doing that are igbos and you will wonder why they can't stay in their owerri instead of running to portharcourt owerri is more organised than porthacourt, ikeja is overrated and like a typical yoruba city rowdy, when ever i enter Owerri i see serenity and peace, besides the houses are top class.stop argument, i stay in Lagos, but i was impressed by the beauty and planning of owerri.i come in peace |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Begins Constitution Of Cabinet, Economic Management Team by Pascal9: 5:32pm On May 18, 2023 |
These are local players, Nigeria can't move forward with this bunch of local champions |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Destroys $1.1billion US Patriot Missile System In Ukraine by Pascal9: 9:12pm On May 16, 2023 |
LordAdam16: https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/16/politics/patriot-missile-damage-ukraine/index.html
The Feds acknowledge a Patriot battery was damaged. According to them it was not destroyed. I don't expect them to admit it was destroyed, but they're likely correct in their assessment.
Patriot is not the most advanced AD in US inventory. It performed woefully in the past although they've had ample time to correct its deficiencies and upgrade its capabilities. More AD systems will be destroyed by Russia because effective AD cover require multiple systems working in sync.
Ukraine does not have that. It's AD coverage is a cacophony of disparate ADs designed and calibrated for wildly different operational conditions. Lots of gaps and vulnerabilities.
As for your quip about taking out every AD system. This takedown demonstrates the capability. And the focus is on destroying most of the materiel stored for the upcoming offensive. The MoD will decide how and when it is necessary to take out AD systems. No point taking out an AD battery protecting the UKR General Staff whom are untouchable at the moment when there are depots with tons of ammo situated elsewhere. However, when Patriot or any other similar system is used to safeguard sites of interest, it'll be taken out as demonstrated yesterday.
Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for Ukraine and the Pentagon to provide proof that they brought down a hypersonic missile with an SAM that it is not rated to intercept. Saying the Patriot took down a Kinzhal is like saying a Howitzer took down an F-35. The physics does not compute.
You cannot say that a Patriot Battalion that failed to protect Saudi oil facilities from low-tech Iranian drones operated by Houthi rebels in 2019 somehow shot down a next-gen missile you haven't been able to replicate. Like, push your propaganda with sense.
-Lord trash |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 6:33pm On May 16, 2023 |
MSGAMBLE9: is not about blabbing...if you earn 100k and govt is asking for 65-70k in tax or even 50k, no be to leave the area remain.
Buh businesses in Lagos, Oyo, Ogun are not complaining cos they know what they make on daily basis can't be made elsewhere. that is why Lagos,Ogun and others keep welcoming people in thousands via Night buses from all over Nigeria. Go other region and see how many months e go take you to sell what you sell in a day in Lagos or West.
It's not rocket science. they are not complaining out, but are cursing there tax masters, fear may shut up there mouth but inside grumbling is the case, mr man there are business every where. Lagos is not feeding people in East, it is feeding people living in it.nigeria is 200.milliion is, Lagos is 15million.the states who's resources is use to run Nigeria have not make this kind of noises. |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 5:58pm On May 16, 2023 |
MSGAMBLE9: Trust me you can only tax successful business... in East where businesses make far less you can't ask them to make such sacrifice of huge tax like in Lagos or Ogun...
Like that is responsible for Anambra earning less than a third of Osun...most business in East are not viable that is why their youth would rather leave via Night buses and their big men choose to invest in West.
Stat shows SE has one of the lowest disposable income, how you wan tax people whose first theme is Survival as these stat protray...
https://www.nairaland.com/7663446/lagos-ogun-kano-account-27
You can't tax the penniless... you are just blabbing, taxing and monetizing every thing even air is taxed , you have not been to the east, your leaders especially APC LEADERS IN LAGOS ARE HEARTLESS |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 5:42pm On May 16, 2023 |
MSGAMBLE9: Commot there jaree, most freighers and container owners are Tinubu's henchmen not ibo( if you know you know)...one container imported can be shared by dozens of your kinmens in small cubicle shop... which means most of your men's are Retailers not Containers owners or Wholesalers.
Which major market, ibo mostly involve in selling electronics, CD, Clothwares, buh when it comes to other forms of trading like Provisions, Cosmetics and Foodstuff and perishables etc. Or you think petty trading start and end with selling of Electronics, CDs or Clothwares?
They are important buh they don't even dominate Retailing like una dey like protray just a section of it ( as stated above).
If it by Retailing alone "Onitsha international market' suppose they earn Anambra better IGR not Meagre #8.7B ( a third of Osun"s)
https://guardian.ng/news/anambra-state-targets-n50-billion-igr-in-2022/.
Know this and know peace. if Anambra is tax the way Tinubu and his thiefs is taxing Lagos, Anambra will generate 100billion, Bleep off |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 5:36pm On May 16, 2023 |
Kukutenla: Warri collapsed from hosting multinational and foreign companies not SMEs you said if it was made the capital of delta it would not collapse |
Celebrities › Re: Saint Obi's Marriage Took Him Away From His Friends And Acting - Zik Zulu by Pascal9: 5:22pm On May 16, 2023 |
kingthreat: One thing I have learnt in this cruel world is that good man no dey epp person. From the beginning, Abel was a good man but was brutally murdered by his brother Cain. I will be good but to just those who deserve it. Cos the heart of man is wicked and desperately evil. thank you jare |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 5:19pm On May 16, 2023 |
Kukutenla: I agree. But it does not fit into the context of the discussion does it? you said warri collapse because it was not made a state capital, i gave you examples of cities that were not capital yet thriving |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 5:00pm On May 16, 2023 |
Kukutenla: Ok. But you can't mention companies at the scale of those in Warri in the 90s can you? What you have are mostly SMEs that is what makes CHINA a power house and the world factory. People manufacturing things even in there bedroom |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 3:05pm On May 16, 2023 |
Kukutenla: I've actually been to Onitsha but not Nnewi does Onitsha looks to you like a dead city, did you visit its industrial estate in ogbaru, or harbour industrial estate and see things for yourself. There may not be a behemoth like dangote refinery, but there are a lot manufacturing going on.must thing use in east are produced in the east. |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 12:10am On May 16, 2023 |
Kukutenla: I don't know how exactly Onitsha is thriving or Nnewi for that matter, especially in the context put forward by the Op. how can you know when you don't travel to other people region, but rather believe in heresy |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 9:24pm On May 15, 2023 |
georgeakins: No business in sout East, per se There are only shops located there. Shops add little or no value to GDP and IGR no business in south east, see this mumu, apart from agricultural products, south East is producing most things they use. You don't travel |
Travel › Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Pascal9: 9:20pm On May 15, 2023 |
Kukutenla: Another angle to this is the failure of Warri to be made the capital city of Delta in 1991. In Nigeria, where politics mix with business, the capital city usually attracts the best in terms of security, infrastructure and other things that make a city worth it. I bet if Warri was made capital in the 90s, the crisis and the thuggery would never have reached the proportion it did. Onitsha is not capital of Anambra, neither is Nnewi yet both are thriving, stop creating excuses |
Politics › Re: The Yorubas Are Becoming Insecure And Frightened: Kola Odetola by Pascal9: 11:46am On May 15, 2023 |
PreyingMantis: The Yorubas are becoming an insecure, frightened and second rate nation..Kola Odetola ——. —— —— ———
No woman likes a clingy, insecure man. But that is what we , yorubas , are becoming, a frightened, insecure and second rate nation.
*So fearful that we cant even accept one of our own because his mother is ibo* despite the fact that the Yoruba race is Patrilineal.
There was a time when the word swagger was synonymous with the yoruba, Reflecting self assurance and confidence of the race .
We exuded self belief. The Ibos secretly admired us. They adopted our clothes and music. They flocked to our churches…. The big Pentecost non-Orthodox Churches , which were mostly founded by Yoruba Pastors… Redeem ,Living Faith, Mountain of Fire & Miracles , Aladura, Apostolic Church , Cherubim and Seraphim, Four Square Gospel Church , etc, all founded and headed by Yorubas !
*We accommodated strangers because we were so sure of ourselves, of our standing in the world, our stature, our swagger that we knew our guests were not a threat.* Now all that has drained away.
We are now like the insecure man who marries a pretty woman and is secretly consumed by self doubt, fearing he is not good enough for her. He therefore tracks her every movement, obsessively going through her phone, hates her male colleagues because he is petrified she will leave him for soneone better.
Is this how low we have fallen that we now fear those we once used to regard as culturally inferior to us? We once said the ibos could not dance, could not dress, lacked poise and polish, were not as read as us. *Now, we work ourselves into a frenzy about them taking over a Yoruba city ( Lagos) hundreds of miles from the nearest hamlet in the south east.*
One of the greatest ever yoruba leaders *Adekunle Fajuyi ,allegedly , once gave his life rather than live with the dishonour of handing over his Ibo guest ( Ironsi) to those who wanted to murder him.*
We now compete with each other to denounce our ibo guests whose only crime is trading and living in our midst, ideologically handing them bound and foot to the caliphate who hate and distrust us as much as they hate and distrust them.
*We look for wild statements of a few ibos to justify our fear of all of them and in doing so , demonstrating not our courage, but our fear, our insecurity, our deep rooted inferiority compkex* towards a tribe who have outmatched us and outpaced us in almost all spheres of life … business acumen , education , tenacity , can do attitude , and many more .
A tribe who rose from the ruins of a war in which they lost 10% of their population but refused to break or, to be broken and made to beg or ,to wallow in self pity, to feel sorry for themselves, did not fear those who beseiged their land, but went forth and conquered their land through commerce those who had conquered their land with bombs.
*They bought our property in Yoruba land while we frittered the proceeds on women and easy living.* *Then , having wasted our inheritance , blame those with greater foresight and discipline of taking over land which we freely sold to them.*
*They take care of their relatives, training them in the family trade while we turn ours to house helps and drivers.*
*They pool their resources together while ours is used to tear our families apart.*
*They build businesses, while we chase every lowly special adviser job , looking for government jobs and contracts.*
*They have learnt to thrive when marginalised , that is, even when deliberately excluded from government largesse , they still have a lower level of poverty than we and their killers of the 1960s.*
It shows in sports. In the 1980's the national football team was split down the middle between ibos and yorubas , with hardly any Northerner in the team , with the yorubas dominating the more glamorous and creative roles in the national football team .
For every Okala, there was an Odegbami, every Chukwu a Muda Lawal, every Stanley Okonkwo a Fekix Owolabi. But *since the 90s and 2000s, the roll of honour in our national game has been claimed by rhe ibos. Who have the yorubas produced to match the profile and performances of Jay Jay Okocha, Emmanuel Amuneke, Kanu Nwankwo, Mikel Obi, Vincent Onyeama.*
When ability, fortitude, resilience, drive and determination is needed we see the ibos.
But when patronage, easy living and dissolute lifestyles are on show enter the yorubas and other groups in Nigeria .
*We cant even plan coups properly.* *The most incompetent coup ever planned in Nigerian military history was the one plotted by yoruba officers in beer parlours over pepper soup and big stout against Abacha leading to its most senior officer grovelling (late General Oladipo Diya) before the dictator pleading for his miserable life.* The coup before that planned by ibo and delta officers - the Gideon Orkar ( a Tiv Officer) putsch in 1990 saw the prime movers defiant to the bitter end, facing death with honour.
How did we end up here? Twenty five(25 ) years of flirting with power at the centre, of living off and chasing unearned income, of prostrating before the caliphate has turned us to feudal retainers.
*Men who have lost their manhood.* We are *cowed into silence when state sponsored gangs rampage across our lands raping our women, burning our farms, slaughtering our youth.*
The few who find the courage to fight back we disown, we call them ruffians( Sunday Igboho) .
When our Youths protest against injustice as they did during the EndSARS , we attribute it fittingly to an ibo plot. At the same time , we failed to see the qualities needed to organise and execute a protest so well executed it captured the international air waves and imagination of the world for days and required courage, initiative and drive.
Qualities *we are now so enfeebled, so morally vacous and lacking , we happily agree courage and sagacity belong to the ibos and not us.*
A *fish rots from the head.* Our legacy was built by giants like Fajuyi, Awolowo and to a lesser extent Abiola. Men who gave their freedom and their lives rather than surrender their principles. But what have we now? Bola Tinubu who, with his dubious background would never have been employed by any of us , if he had come to us for employment with such a history and background and who keeps quiet when millions of ibos are put at risk in his city by vicious tribal bigotry and ethnic baiting because of his lust for power.
Bola Tinubu who buried his head when his own people were being gunned down in churches in their own land at Owo by gun men under the protection of his fulani bosses. In the halycon days of the founder of the modern Yoruba race , the closest Bola Ahmed Tinubu would have got to power would have been organising security at UPN party conferences. Today he is the acknowledged leader of the Yoruba race. How low have we fallen that we are proud and openly accept Bola Tinubu , with his background, as our leader . Would Tinubu have laced AWO’s shoes ?
We have these last few weeks of eternal shame revealed our weakness, our insecurity, the spiritual barrenness that now lies like a void at the centre of our world.
We fear a yoruba man because he has an ibo mother? Are Yoruba now matrilineal? Thats how supine, how fearful we have become.
We forget the Yoruba killed in their hundreds last year by state protected fulani gunmen because we are desperate to be awarded office by those who defile our women and pillage our land.
*Principle counts for nothing.* We are *up for sale and not for very much.* This is how far we have fallen. We have won an election but lost our soul, we are in office but not in power. We are now Pound Land ( that is, Cheap) land, okrika wake version of the fulani elite who inspite of their monopoly of power at the centre feared the commercial acumen and success of the Ibo for 5 decades , so much they turned on them whenever they felt threatened by their own inadequacies as we have done the last few weeks.
We are now a pale imitation of the Fulani, a frightened, insecure, tremulous and second rate nation clinging like leeches to power we seek at any cost because we have nothing else to offer..
The *Ibos have not held power for 60 years and thrived.* We have just won it for the 3rd time in the same period and still like the fulani fear them. This is how low a once great people have fallen. it's very deep |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 11:06am On May 15, 2023 |
michlins: you're the this intelligent and smart businessman and know better than Dangote but still not as rich as his drivers. But keep at it if it makes you happy i may not be as rich as dangote or as smart as him, but am definitely not a fool, many big business have gone bankrupt because bad business decision, do you know how much tax payers money the FG have given to him, billions of dollars, he is indebted to many local and international lenders to the tone of 16billion dollars, he is paying close to a billion dollars in debt servicing to lenders, you people are right and I am wrong but time will tell. |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 10:27am On May 15, 2023 |
michlins: Ok your problem is that Dangote is not doing what you want him to do because of the amount of support he gets from the government?
Here's my advice, instead of hating on Dangote,learn what he did to get to where he currently is that every government plays by his own tune.
Just so you know, his refinery will turn profit in less than a decade of operation continuing this conversation is waste of time, go mark it today, that refinery can never make profit, unless FG is giving him free crude, even at that it will still be difficult, what Will he gain in commissioning an uncomplicated refinery just for buhari to claim it was built during his administration.how many nigerians will buy fuel at 700naira. Bunkering will finish his business |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 7:34pm On May 14, 2023 |
michlins: you're so smart and I am ignorant.
Ikorodu Nikola Tesla, you're well done im not any tesla, but my brother, let us be honest, This guy enjoy soo much surport from the FG controld by his kinsmen, at least with the vast resources at his disposal, he should be building companies that should position the country in the technology map, if Chinese big boys were building refineries , china would lag behind.stop surporting mediocrity |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 2:41pm On May 14, 2023 |
erico2k2: Typical. You own the monopoly for backward reasoning. nobody will wait for backward and ignorant fellow like you |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 2:38pm On May 14, 2023 |
michlins: what is happening is that some people are basing opinion on what they hear on the news without adding practicality.
No single country has met its emissions goals and standard but someone thinks that companies will meet theirs in 2030.
But what's funny is that one johnny thinks he knows better than Dangote. Like how do you begin to think about it? Dangote will invest over $20bn in a project without a laid down rules on how to get returns on investment?
The defense industry has the highest carbon footprint but you have never heard them discuss electric car or emissions standard.
We're long way away from leaving crude oil. Even coal is still powering UK and I think Germany fired up its coals to beat energy deficiency due to Russia and Ukraine war you people are ignorant, Tanzania is building a 42billion dollars LNG, which will power the country, produce enough for ordinary people, with long term viability, but here, local mofos like you is hyping an outdated business that is dying. Electric car and trucks have come to stay. U can continue with your fusil fuel car but don't drag anybody back ward. |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 10:30pm On May 13, 2023 |
erico2k2: Unfortunately for you, I'm just stating the obvious. You are far from reality to acknowledge the bare fact that Nigerians abroad are doing unimaginable things and lead in various disciplines. You belong to them school of thought who think we all wash dishes and sweep the streets of the Uk or wash dead bodies or are carers. if you are truly living abroad, you won't reason like this, honestly |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 10:27pm On May 13, 2023 |
sparko1: I don't know where you stay but I see horse almost every day, come to Lagos beach and see how lucrative having a horse is. can you imagine |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 10:11pm On May 13, 2023 |
erico2k2: Unfortunately for you, I'm just stating the obvious. You are far from reality to acknowledge the bare fact that Nigerians abroad are doing unimaginable things and lead in various disciplines. You belong to them school of thought who think we all wash dishes and sweep the streets of the Uk or wash dead bodies or are carers. you are not in any abroad, you are too local in reasoning |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 3:38pm On May 13, 2023 |
erico2k2: Look at this ignorant one calling Chinese, do you know how many Chinese personal I have trained over the years? apart from Gun powder what has the Chinese ever invented in whole? I have gone fru your post on NL since 2018 you joined, all you got to talk about is Politics, you don't engage in science except one liner about American war ship firing Laser that was your bread and butter. You have never been in an Electric car I don't even believe you have seen one in your entire miserable life. The worlds 5% greedy persons are screaming EVs you too follow, there is zero advantage of electric cars to the man on the street. na mouth you get, keyboard engineer , local Nigeria man , I don't claim to be what I'm not |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 8:21pm On May 12, 2023 |
erico2k2: You see people who talk like you have no clue,So you think the Nigerian Engineers have no real knowledge how the world works? This shows you are not educated. YI I'm a UK trained Fluid Engineer with more than 20 years' experience, My job has taken me round the globe,I have worked in the Automation of both Land rover and BMW plants in German and in the Uk,In EU this was how they hyped Diesel cars but the Americans did not buy the idea, look what happened Now we got that out of the way let me lecture you a bit In the year 1881: French inventor Gustave Trouve exhibits a three- wheeled car with a rechargeable battery at the International Exhibition of Electricity held in Paris and also in 1882: English professor William Ayrton together with an Irish professor John Perry invent a three-wheeled electric vehicle that could travel up to 25 miles at 9 mph. FYI https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g43480930/history-of-electric-cars/
The first commercially successful internal combustion engine was created by Étienne Lenoir around 1860, and the first modern internal combustion engine, known as the Otto engine, was created in 1876 by Nicolaus Otto.
Mr Heaven Engineer as you can see Electric cars has been around for almost as long as IC Engines! Electric cars has been around for almost as long as IC Engines! what is this novice talking about, I gave you reason why electric car was suppressed then by vested interest, and you are here talking about people that couldn't commercialise their inventions, mumu in 1860 or1876, is electricity mainstream, you are not an engineer, you are claiming what you are not.you are wiser than the CHINESE and AMERICAN BUSINESS MEN INVESTING BILLIONS IN NEXT GENERATION BATTERY, even with current battery milage, one can drive up 500km before needing to recharge, Oga you don't know a jack |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 8:17pm On May 12, 2023 |
erico2k2: You see people who talk like you have no clue,So you think the Nigerian Engineers have no real knowledge how the world works? This shows you are not educated. YI I'm a UK trained Fluid Engineer with more than 20 years' experience, My job has taken me round the globe,I have worked in the Automation of both Land rover and BMW plants in German and in the Uk,In EU this was how they hyped Diesel cars but the Americans did not buy the idea, look what happened Now we got that out of the way let me lecture you a bit In the year 1881: French inventor Gustave Trouve exhibits a three- wheeled car with a rechargeable battery at the International Exhibition of Electricity held in Paris and also in 1882: English professor William Ayrton together with an Irish professor John Perry invent a three-wheeled electric vehicle that could travel up to 25 miles at 9 mph. FYI https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g43480930/history-of-electric-cars/
The first commercially successful internal combustion engine was created by Étienne Lenoir around 1860, and the first modern internal combustion engine, known as the Otto engine, was created in 1876 by Nicolaus Otto.
Mr Heaven Engineer as you can see Electric cars has been around for almost as long as IC Engines! what is this novice talking about, I gave you reason why electric car was suppressed then by vested interest, and you are here talking about people that couldn't commercialise their inventions, mumu in 1860 or1876, is electricity mainstream, you are not an engineer, you are claiming what you are not.you are wiser than the CHINESE and AMERICAN BUSINESS MEN INVESTING BILLIONS IN NEXT GENERATION BATTERY, even with current battery milage, one can drive up 500km before needing to recharge, Oga you don't know a jack |
Business › Re: Dangote Refinery Begins Operations Amid Lingering Fuel Crisis by Pascal9: 11:53am On May 12, 2023 |
sparko1: Just shut up, people still use horses for transportation, it will take at least 50-100 years before everyone will go the way of renewable energy by which time lots of people might have died of hunger. when did you see a horse last, hypocrite |