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asha 80:
Tpia indegenes of oyo and lagos ARE FROM THE SAME COUNTRY.That article you brought up holds no water.

This is serious.

Yes it is the same country, but every state have their allocation. If one state decides to take care of its destitutes, does that imply destitutes from other states should migrate there right from the same country under the same resource allocation to each state?

Moves:
@ Pataki -- Are those con indigenes that commit crime in lagos deported as well to their respective states of origin to serve their sentences or after serving their sentences, Also all those agberos and areas boys have they been deported as well, this is just BRF starting illegality or the helpless and starting to question the intelligence as all his policy seems to have human costs -- And this is not always a problem but when in all cases it tends to affect the least and less priviledge amongst the society it becomes one, This is illegal

No it is not illegal. Committing a crime in Lagos, you have to pay for the crime you have committed in the state in which it was committed. Hoping to live on the benefits of a state which is not your state should not be allowed. Fashola has not rejected beggars from Lagos state, rather beggars from other states, should go back to their state and let their state handle its affairs. It is that simple.

Kobojunkie:
They could be forced to pay taxes on the little they make.

I cannot believe an educated being would make a statement such as this. Beggar forced to pay taxes Na wa o! So preposterous!

@ Kobojunkie,
See, you are spoiling for this to get personal. What relevance does my age play with this discussion? Who started the personal confrontation?

I would ignore that you have issues and keep drumming back to you where your arguments are flawed. SHOW ME HOW THE ACTIONS OF LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT IS WRONG?

Kobojunkie:
Oh Now it is ignorance when requesting that you state why a state would DEPORT to another state? Destitutes are not citizens of a state even when they are citizens of the same country in which the state exists in?Dude . . .  you can continue with this throwing of claims at me all you want but I wait for you to back all this up with actual factual details  of sort. DOES NIGERIA ALLOW FOR STATE TO STATE DEPORTATION AND ON WHAT GROUNDS? Simple!!

You are simply jumping ahead of yourself. I have asked of you. . . . . . .

Pataki:
Why cannot a destitute from Ogun State go and claim any financial assist from the Niger Delta? Is there a law in Nigeria that states that Ogun State citizens should go Bayelsa to claim financial assistance for their impecunious affairs?

Answer my question or best still hide under your Roflmao!!!!!!

Kobojunkie:
Dude . . . . No one is making it about you. I asked you those questions wondering why you were trying to draw some connection between those twisted claims made and this topic here.

You are spoiling for another series of cyber bashing, if my arguments cannot simply remain as arguments. You do not have any right whatsoever to refer to my claims as twisted, nor make the subject of discussion personal with those questions you asked of me. Except you are ignorant that, deportation does exist.

Kobojunkie:
We are not talking about a COUNTRY or COUNTRIES. This is about the relationship between STATES WITHIN THE SAME COUNTRY. Would ALABAMA deport you to DELAWARE for any reason? What Law allows that? Or reason supports that, giving that you have committed no crime? Or are you saying that ALABAMA can somehow DEPORT YOU BACK TO your NIGERIAN State of Origin when it deems you an INCONVENIENCE in some future, even though you have a RIGHT TO BE HERE as an AMERICAN?

Are you ignorant that deportation does exist? What kind of argument are tendering here? Wasting resources of a state on citizens who are not of that state? Why cannot a destitute from Ogun State go and claim any financial assist from the Niger Delta? Is there a law in Nigeria that states that Ogun State citizens should go Bayelsa to claim financial assistance for their impecunious affairs?

Kobojunkie:
I have to ask, what are you doing??
Again, what the frell are you doing??
HUH

This discussion is not about me! When is that going to sink into you??

asha 80:
You think say alao akala go send?

If he likes he should not send. But at least, the citizens of Oyo state would witness what Fashola is doing and it is their right to ask Akala what he is doing when other states are making lasting impacts.

asha 80:
@pataki

How do we determine who is a lagosian or not?

I am sure there are ways to determine such. After all, the National ID card was undertaken some years back. But the truth is that, this action would spark-up states taking responsibility for their people.

Kobojunkie:
Fashola does not have to house them or give them scholarships at all, so I see no reason why that ought to be a problem. I mean he could render begging illegal in Lagos, arrest all these people and use them for cheap labor in the prisons or something, anything, but deportation makes sense to me.  

If there is no law allowing such, why is it allowed? Where will this end? What stops kano state from deciding to send all Ibos and Yorubas back to their home states? What stops other states from doing the same? Imagine what would result if other governors decided this was something worth practicing so they can use allocations for just their own people and not for the destitute in society or those who are not originally from their part of society?

Even in developed countries, once you have no ties to the countries in the least amount, you are expected to go back to your home country, or you could be deported. Of course this is Nigeria and it is for all Nigerians. But the truth is that, if you are not contributing to the development and economic strength of a state which is not your state, rather living the resources of the state, you should go back to your state.

This would create the room for every state to take responsibility for its citizenry. Lagos is already setting the pace on that, let every other state follow suit. It is a welcome development and it should be encouraged.

Kobojunkie:
Shouldn’t we start by asking if a governor, any governor, has a right to DEPORT any citizen, of the same country, to any state? I mean what law allows a state governor to deport anyone, destitute or not, to any state? Any clue what law allows that?

Good question!

I do not think there should be a law for that. In my view, every state have their allocations. Fashola has tried enough by housing these destitutes for a while now. Maybe, this action of his will ignite every state to be more bothered about their indigenes and create some measure of welfare programs for them. It would be illogical for Fashola to use the state resources to care for destitutes from other states when other states can as well create their own social welfare programs.

After all, some states have scholarship programs for their own citizens and if you are not from that state, you do not have any right to partake in it. So I totally reason with the call of Fashola on this one.

Sorry to say this, but you urged him the more with that Yoruba text you sent to him. How can you send a text telling him you know you have offended him, when you have as well stated here you are oblivious to what you did??! Does that make any meaning to you?

When he got that text, it definitely implied to him that you were just throwing up an attitude all the while even when you knew you had done something wrong. If more than anything, you are a Christian, and Christ-like virtues makes you know that; ''Blessed are the peacemaker. . . . . . '' Do what you have to do to restore peace into your home.

Communication is vital to your relationship. At the moment it is not there, and what it simply requires is an apology as he demanded for. When the whole dust has cleared, let him know you were truly disgusted and annoyed with his actions all the while.

As much as possible, I try to keep away from affairs between couples. They understand each other better. Why would a man, want to treat his woman in this manner? There has to be some missing connections with this story to warrant his actions to you. Or unless he is just doing it to boost his ego and affirm who is the man of the house.

That said, would your indifference and defiance to his demands make things better? Probably. But definitely at the moment, you are not happy. What counts the most is your happiness. If you are not getting it right now, do what you have to do, to regain it once more. I tell you, there are better times to get back at him. All this talk that you are a Black American Woman would not solve the matter. He is as well a Black African Man! Y'all have your differences, but someone must be willing to step-down for another. If he was on the forum as well, I do tell him the same thing as I have typed here.

Oh nostalgic feelings!

The days of Village Headmaster, Chief Zebudayya alias 4:30 (Giringori ), Checkmate, Demsey and Makepeace, Newsline (9:15pm on Sunday evenings), Speakout, Tales by Moonlight, Voltron, Telehawks, SuperTed, Dangermouse, Sesame street, NTA Father Christmas grotto (I want to greet my teacher, my mummy, my daddy. . . . . . I want to say a merry christmas and a happy new year).

When I remember more, I would be back.

Tatase:
Danny Gokey is ok, but unfortunately he's been slipping the past few weeks (like Lil Rounds). He's definitely no longer as good as he was and certainly not as good as he thinks he is.

My faves from this week were definitely Adam and Allison (who I'm supporting for this season). I also thought Chris and Matt were pretty good, they both project a chill Jason Mraz-ish vibe, but in different ways.

The right person sha went home this week.

KikiDixy:
Danny Gokey is an okay singer, I like him too. Both he and Adam have been hyped from Day 1, the difference between the 2 is that Adam is living up to the hype while Danny Gokey clearly isnt.

And yes, the right person went home last night. Scott's story is inspirational and all that but he wasnt so good

Danny is not just an OK singer, he is a very good singer. Note that it is only him and Adam who are yet to be in the bottom three. They both have maintained a consistency with the show this year, and the judges would never fail to use their voting right to bring them back should they mistakenly fall into the bottom three.

That said, I am of the conviction that the best of Danny has not yet been truly displayed. He is saving his best for the last. I have always believed in him right from the inception and I find his story and background interesting. Another factor for me liking him is based on the fact that he is also a Choir director, hence he tends to sing songs with some level of inspiration in it.

Adam was simply exceptional this week. He totally made me breathless and speechless. Saving the best for the last. Lil Rounds has been going on the decline for the past three weeks now. What is happening to her?? She needs to get her act together seriously.

I am as well impressed within two weeks in a row, American Idol have voted out the right set of people. Megan had started getting ahead of herself, thinking she had huge amount of fans when she has not created a niche as a singer for herself. Scott on the other hand, has his own brand and swagger, but his appeal does not cut across to the present generation in America. Yes, he has an inspirational story and background, but Americans cannot forever continue to keep him there based on his circumstances. I also feel that he was becoming more of a burden on America Idol (Just my perception though).

For the top three, my intuition lies with: Danny, Adam and Alison.

Who are they deceiving? Where is the FOI Bill till tomorrow? Absolute rubbish!

I pray this thread gets any form of sanity after Becomrrich has laid his hands on it. At the moment, he seems occupied with Soludo/Igbo saga. Once the smoke on that has cleared away, be expecting his usual Yoruba-Benin map with endless list of yoruba patriots on this thread!

And this is the man who was lamenting, he did not go for G-20 summit? It is obvious this man is not feeling well, why suffer head yourself? Prolly, because of the free world health services he is getting as President.

tpia:
Now, in your own case, since you always make it a habit to join in on the side of the majority whenever you see mob action, you need to develop a thicker skin, because those insults you want to take offence at, will surely rain down on you like hail regardless if you're expecting them or not.

Right! How well you have read my script on nairaland. You think I take any of your input with an atom of intelligence? Type again!

I guess I am supposed to be shrinking in me boots, as I expect a barrage or deluge of insults coming my way from tpia and her cohorts. What a puerile imagination. Go back and read my previous profiles on nairaland.

@ Poster,

I suppose you are already pyanshing the white girl. Why are you wasting the time of the babe in Nigeria? Let the babe in Nigeria go now, before you keep leading her on to her destruction and finally yours. Except if the white girl is your phock-buddie. But nevertheless, swallowing in two girls at the same time? Oh boy, u wan wound oh.

@ RichyBlack,

Actually in a way, tpia employed the socratic method. The style she used was to engage you in a conversation of denial to what you stated or the questions you asked. In so doing, she claimed or acted no knowledge to the bane of the subject matter, which in a way was to ensure that you instead provide answers that address the very specific questions raised on this thread. If satisfactory answers are not proffered to her taste, the conversation becomes stuck in what seemingly appears to be an unanswerable question. This method is the Classic Socratic Method.

However, where she failed was when she left that line of method and began the tirade of insults. As the ultimate goal of the method is to increase understanding through inquiry.

Here is a basic definition to the Classic Socratic Method:

[center]The Classic Socratic Method uses creative questioning to dismantle and discard ideas that inhibit a person from thinking through a primary question. This deconstructive style of the Socratic Method is ‘Socratic’ precisely to the extent that the weight of the actual deconstruction of ideas rests in the respondent’s own answers. The result of the Classic Socratic Method is, by definition, a failure to find a satisfactory answer to the primary question in a conversation. This failure produces a ‘Socratic Effect’ which can, it is hoped, inspire a person to dig deep and think about the question with an energetic new freedom that is obtained from discarding a previously held belief. If a satisfactory answer is found, this represents a transition to the ‘Modern Socratic Method.’[/center]

http://www.socraticmethod.net/

Mr Sunday [i]Eyin[/i]dero:
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Thief Bode George:
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oyb:
sweden , Iceland(of the lesbian PM) , Norway etal must also be built on 'strong Christian principles', not so?

Why did you skip out Netherlands? Can you see how you failed in your arguments as well? At least I have lived in the Netherlands. Obviously, you know the truth, but you are so pigheaded to accept it.

oyb:
its so odd that the same people who trumpet democracy and Christian values get upset when minorities that are anathema to Christianity (gays etal) start pushing for their rights under a democratic dispensation.

Would the same be said of Islam? Christian values allow for democracy. That is a well established fact. Would your sharia law place room for democracy or for people to start pushing for their rights?? It is rather odd when those who are antipodean to Christianity start opening their gob and ranting out discussions beyond them when the Islamic tenets has never made provisions to substantiate and validate their arguments.

TOYOSI20:
BTW. . . .I love ur siggy!!

Thanks!!!

Yours as well is brain stimulating!!!!

This hype on Adam is just too much. Personally for me, Danny Gokey is my American Idol for this year. That guy is simply amazing.

TOYOSI20:
true words, . . . . he is very charismatic as well, . . . .

and i think people with a good head on their shoulders would be able to relate to his songs as well. . . .

I think we are yet to see the best from 9ice!!

Unfortunately, when I knew him with a friend of mine whom we served together back in my NYSC days, I thought he was rubbish. But today, 9ice is making his mark in the Naija music entertainment industry.

Just like my siggy here, Ojumo kan, imo kan, ere kan, ara kan, asa kan, just like chameleon spoken and sung by 9ice, there is more to come from this man with his own diversity and uniqueness.

[quote author=*Hauwa* link=topic=259818.msg3708987#msg3708987 date=1239238007]@ Pataki

I also have that habit too.

[/quote]Yeah I do. Somethings cannot be shared with others. Which is why I cannot stand ''anko'' (having the same style of dress) either with my brother or my father. Although with my father, it is not possible as I am more taller than him though. I pay attention to the kind of socks I use at home while I am around, as I cannot stand looking for my clothings in his wardrobe or in that of my brother as well.  

As a result, it has made me change my underwears and apparels these days. You use your mum's shoes? How do you women manage it?

agabaI23:
You know your hubby don't you?

Secondly you caused the fire in a way. Why buy son and dad the same colour of socks? Are they twins?

Hahahahahahaha

Rehana2:
Thnx everyne, my fault really for buying them both Primark stripey socks, will get hubbys sock embroidered with a T for Tunji!
and colour code in future.  Think this might be a tactic on T,s part to clear the living room so he can watch Sky.

We surely know how to find our ways, when we want it tactfully.

OgidiBoy:
Pls don't be mad at me, but I don't see any reason why you turning this discussion into a fight, the girl gave her opinion, give yours and move on. No need to take everything so serious my brother pls.

Hilarious.

Giving my own opinion implies I am turning the discussion into a fight?

OgidiBoy:
I have a feeling this comfort is earthmama in disguise

You are very wrong. Earthmama can type sentences for full comprehension, contribute to any argument on nairaland. Comfort never knows how to string sentences together. All he/she ever does is to use emoticons and copy and paste news articles on nairaland.

[quote author=*Toyinrayo link=topic=259753.msg3708918#msg3708918 date=1239235680]I said, most of the threads. . . .and the threads in question are those asking for "good, Nigerian Christians".


Thank you, next time you want to jump on someone, it's good to know what the discussion at hand is
And before you begin your overbearing epistle. . . .it's best to let you know I won't take that one "serious" too [/quote]Funny how suddenly you think in your ''esteemed intelligence'' I should refer back to know what the discussion on hand is about. No where in the subject of discourse did the poster raise or infer to threads on the romance section. You interjected that discourse, which was utterly irrelevant. And given your penchant for turning threads into a chit-chat session, it is best to drive home the necessary message to you.

Funny also how you think I type ''overbearing epistle'' whatever the jargons that means though. At least one thing is clear: the message was delivered.

blacksta:
Comfort is a crime fighter

Comfort is no crime fighter. Several threads in times past have alluded to that fact. Comfort is simply a personality who goes about raising threads most esp. to two particular tribes with special interest in crime and horror related stories. Comfort has been banned a couple of times on this forum as ^muda, mohadana, amongst several other tribalistic id's he/she uses.

When there is apparently a crime related section, I wonder why it is so difficult for the poster to go post his/her threads in there?

biina:
Beyond of puberty, maturity (like most things in life) is relative. What you term as an immature behavior, might be taken as a sign of maturity by another. What one sees as being childishly possessive can be termed by another as being maturely in control.

When I take a stand, I am being bull-headed.
When my boss does it, he's being firm.


from  My Boss and I

I totally agree. But I think you should have quoted Tgirl4real and not me. As you and I are apparently on the same side of discourse.

Anyways, thanks for the add-on.