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eph12:
Actually the people that have been running riot here for the last couple of days are Messi fans

Like TrebleChamp?

larride:
They can disrespect Ronaldo but when they do the same to Rooney is where you draw the line ehn?

Rooney spoke about a United player, what's wrong for him to have a say? Where was all this defense for United players when Pogba was constantly criticized by ex-players?

Why is it that it's only when Ronaldo is mentioned that a section of the fan base go on the all out attack...Just like supporters of a particular candidate are doing over here in Nigeria...

Penduism is a thing...

Roland17:
Pessi/ Eibarman is also in that category.

Pendu and Eibarman are the exception. What both players have done for football over the last 2 decades or there about is unfanthomable.

Barcelona/ United may disappear decades from now but those 2 will forever be talked about as long as football is concerned.

There are levels to greatness in the game and both operate or have operated on supreme levels.

Do you know what it takes to remain at the peak of your career for nearly 2 decades? They (Pendu/ Eibarman) have earned their respective RIGHTS to say their opinions and be respected for their opinions.

I mean What is a Rooney?

Rooney is a Manchester United legend and he spoke about Ronaldo as a Manchester United player so, I don't get why you guys are trolling him with world cup goals...

Imagine TrebleChamp trolling Rooney for his looks as if he is a model...

Make nobody disrespect Rooney for here...Ronaldo might be in the GOAT convo and all that but Rooney achieved Greatness at United...Wazza is appreciated here...

Birthday blessings popizaino

Penduism?

emexnaija:
Soldier beats up Police officer controlling traffic At Mobile Traffic light Calabar, Cross River state


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfDF9KNBuhk

This lady is very friendly...The soldier no try at all...

KingTom, you know her, right?

raumdeuter:
The world cup in Qatar is starting in a few days

There have been many issues with many people attacking the choice of Qatar ranging from

1. They used slave labor to construct the stadium and slavery is prevalent in Qatar
2. They banned alcohol and are not accepting of Gay People
3. They bribed to get the hosting rights
4. They are interrupting the football calendar by having the tournament in December

For me personally, these issues if I will rank them from Most important to least import, I will list as above with 1 being the most important and 4 the least important

While some have merits some of the issues are just stretching things

If you are so pissed about Qatar hosting, just boycott the world cup like Cantona. Don't watch don't fly there, dont even comment about it just ignore and let those who dont mind enjoy the games

It will be harder for me to be very connected when Nigeria is not playing though but I wish everyone the best and for Germany to win

Favorite will be France Brazil Portugal

The Albicelestes all the way...

For dark horses, the Danes...

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You post was going to give the BATifieds some kind of comeback, which i just had to nip in the bud.

No vex if you feel dragged

Everybody knows there are crazy bonuses.

Amd for the record, 98.245% of drivers cut corners, steal and short-change their employers. You can verify that too, because i have been there.

So, i can never be surprised if a truck driver earning 80k has built a 10 million naira property.[/color]

I am talking about money made legally. For instance, if a driver goes on a mission with the Country rep, they get paid the same amount as DSA...If a driver us out for 3 months, he returns will millions made legally.

I never knew it was possible until I got to the level I am now so, it's fallacious for you to conclude that everyone knows what's up...

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Nobody said people dont earn crazy bonuses. We are just telling that considering his job role, employer, and time, that is an Oluwole fact.

Let me show you why i said your examples of crazy bonus cant fit with that of BAT

1) You are converting your bonus in naira

Let's peg the dollar at #600

So your friend earns 600k = [$1000 per month]
Daily bonus of 38k = [$63 per day]
Multiply it by 365 days = [$22,995 per year]

So your friend earns $12k + 22k bonus in a year. How is this crazy compared to $20k and $850k a year?

2) Your friend works with a mission. They have to send him out of his station, pay for his allowances, feeding, travelling, and other parts of his welfare

BAT was working for an accounting firm [9 to 5 job], was not a junior partner, and made 850k in bonuses. You can refer to Ibime post and see where he said in 2022, it takes grace for a junior partner to chop 500k bonus sef. But BAT was hitting 850k in 1980

There's nothing crazy about your friends bonus if you stick to dollars that we have been using.[/color]

I drop a comment for those who think it's absurd for someone to earn more from other sources other than the expected net income. If you're well informed then fine but don't try to drag me into a non-existent back and forth with you after all, I clearly stated the intent of my post...

If you do the maths for Drivers, you'll be more shocked. I am sure they're quite of lot of folks out there who will be surprised seeing a driver building houses worth millions of naira when his monthly take home is 300k or thereabout...

Joezinho:
Pogba and martial disrespected mourinho and they were hailed by some of you.

Ronaldo said he doesn’t respect a coach that can’t show him respect and y’all are going berserk.

What did Pogba and Martial say or do when Mou was the coach?

Delta state that receives billions of Naira dey follow blame APC for their woes and not Okowa and the failed PDO leadership in the state...Na wa oh!

izzou:
[color=royalblue]If you actually read your example with Tinubu's story, you'll know you are comparing apples and oranges.

But its okay...I still understand whatever point you are trying to make[/color]

There was a caveat at the end of my post.

I am not defending Tinubu however, I want to put it out that it's possible for one to earn way above their stipulated salaries. It's even crazier when you do tye analogy with the monthly take home of their drivers. In most international organizations where there's enough travels, Drivers rake in more through DSA compared to their net income.

GloriousGbola:
And then we have 'discretionary' bonuses

When we were bought over, the new owners dropped 1m usd as buyover bonus. Our fking exec mgt shared the money among themselves and their crew. One entry level, contract chick who was knacking our oga at the top got 5m. After a lot of hullabaloo, they gave everyone else one month extra salary.

Tomorrow that chick too will say she received a performance bonus on her cv.

Though these are naija stories. But Las Las, they also happen in obodo oyibo.

I have seen people go on mission for over 4 - 5 months and when they return, they start building...The money is like blood money...Imagine going to a location where the DSA is 60k daily and you spend 4 moths there...Most folks will argue otherwise but I encourage them to ask their friends in UN organizations and other international partners...People make mad money in this same Naija and legally too...

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DissTroy:
Wole Soyinka is still as articulate as ever in his 80's. Obasanjo is still as articulate.

Did you watch Bode George's recent interview who is also in his 80's? He's still in control of his mental faculties.

Tinubu has many mental deficiencies. Not a crime but he shouldn't drag the rest of the most populated black country on earth and the entire West African subregion which is under its influence into whatever issues he has going on with him.

I said "Some"...

afrodoc2:
It is not age. The man probably has a Lewy Body Dementia, either Parkinson's Disease Dementia or Dementia with Lewy Bodies.

With age comes some of that.

Ibime:
E no consign me whether he worked for Deloitte or not. In the capacity he claimed to have worked for Deloitte, it is nothing special, I deal with them and Ernst & Young every few months as they audit us, and he is nowhere near earning $100k in the 80s, talkless of the amount he is claiming. Most of their audit seniors lack some basic knowledge of accounting recognition, and it's very easy to sneak material amounts past them in the accounts, most of their training being limited to seeing a recognition in the books and asking for invoice or contract to justify that recognition.

For Tinubu to claim he was receiving bonus of $850k from Deoitte, my BS meter will even say he didn't work for Deloitte in any decent capacity to come up with such a ridiculous figure. Audit companies don't pay huge bonuses, and would typically pay 10-50% of your salary as bonus, depending on your level, with 50% being at Director/VP level and 10-20% at senior level. This is not an investment bank that share profits to traders. Even MDs and VPs in Investment Banks that share profits will struggle to hit $850k bonus easily except in a really bumper year.

The main koko be say Tinubu forfeited money related to drug transactions. All this shalaye or defending him like voltron is not necessary. Tinubu still remains to me the candidate with the best track record of executive Governance amongst the three and they should campaign on that, not defending Deloitte or Drug forfeitures. All our politicians are crooks, and we expect some magomago in the background.

I share same sentiments but his age is a big no for me...There's Sowore and another young Edo guy on the ballot who has impressed me almost everytime I listen to him.

TrebleChamp:
Sebi you dey criticise since, so you have now read the full interview abi?
United is richer than Barcelona, United don't borrow money to pay salary or sign players, na the owners just dey chop the money without investing in facilities. Reason why i love this Ronaldo expose....

Ogbeni stop abeg...Without investing? Same you that argued on the side of the owners when we had the debate here over investing in the squad and club in general?

They've been investments in the stadium and training facilities that have been reported by the media over time so, I don't get why you're feigning ignorance now...

When Van Persie was signed, the club invested money geared towards improving the training facilities but no, as e concern Ronaldo, make we all feign ignorance...

eph12:
This is valid IMO.

Ronaldo doesn't give two shits about United or the Glazers or whoever. He only gives two shits about winning and returning back to the top

I really don't know what your intent is but you are always neither here nor there in any argument...

Most times, you argue just to irritate the person you're up against and not for any logical reason...

kokaneprodigy:
I don’t think most peeps that support this have ever worked in an established organization before.
Ronaldo is an employee of Manchester United, he can’t love the club more than its owners. He isn’t a spokes man for the club either. He is forming doing Aluta and speaking to the press demarketing the club while at it. As an employee if you try this you’ll get fired easily.

Why didn’t he grant this interview last season or is he just seeing that the facilities are outdated? You are not playing well you dey find excuse to cover face.

Exactly...If he was scoring goals, there's no way the coach will bench him.

eph12:
You do not know what goes on indoors. You think this is just about not starting a couple of games?

It's wrong to go to the media...You won't do it in your place of work. It is not permitted anywhere...

eph12:
Since you're talking about truth, who has justified his place in the team from the back of last season, before everything went wrong?

I don't even want him here. I have stated this many times that he should be let go, so we can get a much younger and vibrant striker, and avoid all these rubbish. But some of us here don't want that. They want him to remain here so he can be trolled. To what end? I remember saying whether he stays or not, during the summer, that a new striker should be gotten. We can't depend on him. That's what we're seeing now

We have a new coach so, everyone has a fresh start. Stop bringing up last season's performance to justify the present.

Dalot, Martinez, De Gea, Varane and few others have stepped up hence they're first team regulars same can't be said of Ronaldo...

Expert17:
I never knew Mourinho was referring to coaches (ETH, OLE and Ragnick) and not Glazers, Woodward and other senior executives.

Lmao

You dey mind that one...Fan boys will jump on anything...

liveLongNprospa:
But Ronaldo has always faced criticism as a player.. And he has always hit back in his own way.

So what's the issue with him hitting back now abi is it because its your darling Rooney who isn't as good looking as Ronaldo

What's the sense in your reply?

TrebleChamp:
Stop being emotional jare, Ronaldo told everyone when he returned that his interview would be out. Did he lie about the rot in the club? Did you read where he wrote that his son died and Liverpool shown more care than United? Did you read where he said that his daughter was sick and he could return for pre-season, yet no support from the club and maybe the manager. His beef with ETH started during the summer, i have said here that their was a power tussle between both of them..

Why should he even try to square up to the coach?

liveLongNprospa:
OH so when he replies Rooney, its hate but Rooney can have a go at him

What exactly did Rooney say that was wrong?

Players get criticized but it's only Ronaldo that will take it personal.

eph12:
True.

You're also hating on Ronaldo because you don't like the truth?

What's the truth?

Has Ronaldo justified his inclusion in the team? Can you boldly say that Ronaldo has played well thus far? Una go dey support rubbish just to defend una favorite.

mediaresearcher:
Don't read snippets and jump to conclusions. From FP:

The lack of respect has come from the media, my bosses, work colleagues and even former team-mates.

"This is the most difficult period of my life”, both professionally and personally.

Cristiano Ronaldo on Wayne Rooney: “I don’t know why he criticises me so badly . . . probably because he finished his career and I’m still playing at high level.”

“I’m not going to say that I’m looking better than him. Which is true . . . ”

"I only found strength in what Liverpool did when my boy died. I never expected to see that.”

While I felt less supported by my club when my three month old daughter fell ill and I could not return for pre-season. There was no empathy and Most of them at the club even doubted me.

"I was shocked by the lack of improvements to training facilities, from the pool and the gym to the kitchen (nutrition and diet), and in technology.

“The progress was zero,” he sighs. “Since Sir Alex left, I saw no evolution in the club. Nothing had changed.”

“I think the fans should know the truth.“ I want the best for the club. This is why I come to Manchester United.

“But you have some things inside that don’t help (us) reach the top level as City, Liverpool and even now Arsenal . . . a club with this dimension should be top of the tree in my opinion and they are not unfortunately.”

Sir Alex knows the current situation. He knows better than anybody that the club is not on the path they deserve to be.

"He knows. Everyone knows. The people who don’t see that… it’s because they don’t want to see; they are blind.”

I was dismayed by the dismissive attitude of the younger players, who had no intent to learn.

Cristiano Ronaldo: "As Picasso said, you've to destroy it to rebuild it... and if they start with me, for me, it’s not a problem".

"A club of this size should be at the top, but this is not the case, there is no excuses". I love Manchester United, I love the fans, they’re always on my side. But if they want to do it different… they have to change many, many things.”


I am been treated as the black sheep, responsible for all the failings at the club.

I have enormous respect for Ole Gonnar Solskjaer but not the other two.

I don't expect any special treatment, but expect to be treated with the respect I feel I have earned.

Saying things the fans want to hear...Narcissist...

liveLongNprospa:
Ronaldo is a diva but you are not worried that the man met the things he left when he was 23yrs old.

Ronaldo is a diva but when Rooney was taking shots at him, you didn't have issues with it. Then Don reply Rooney now, una dey vex. .

Ronaldo is a diva but it was SAF that begged him not to go to Man City because of loyalty to this same club.

You people will not learn from the mourinho situation.
It took almost 4yrs after mourinho was sacked before you started believing everything he said.


Wooh wetin concern me.. I be Madrid supporter, atleast even when we don't win, we still dey play proper football

Not here, go to your thread and defend Ronaldo...I am certain you guys won't support him if he did this as a Madrid player.

TrebleChamp:
Well Ronaldo did tell us that his interview will be lit, though it is coming at the worst possible time but he warned us ...

What's your take on the interview?

Ronaldo should gtfo...Must all the ex players praise you? Man's hating on Rooney because he doesn't like the truth.

Leyqute:
A lot of stuff went wrong for that goal to happen. And it’s damn annoying.

All the things that went wrong were little mistakes that could’ve been prevented.

Very annoying.

I deliberately skipped Malacia because he is not a RB and he is quite young.