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afrodoc2:It means they're not farmers are can play at the level of Madrid and Juventus players... |
afrodoc2:Denayer and his mates are farmers but Ronaldo and Juventus couldn't knock them out... |
Cherry picking their best players is down to the fact that the EPL has more money. Next summer, all the top teams will return to France looking for another set of farmers...Farmers w ey sabi ball... Take the money and media coverage away and watch the EPL struggle... |
afrodoc2:What happened when Man City met Lyon? What happened why Juventus met Lyon? What happened when City met Monaco? Those farmers that ensured City and Juventus were dumped out of the UCL are what you are asking for...You can look them up. |
Messi is a failure at International football but when he won the COPA we started hearing stories... The good thing is that his haters are out with the excuses are early this time...So, if Messi wins the Ligue 1 that PSG couldn't win and even lost their version of the Super Cup to the same Lille (showing that it wasn't a fluke), he didn't do anything spectacular, he should win the UCL which if he does they'd find another excuse... Hehehe I sabi una well well... |
afrodoc2:I thought they were all farmers? |
slimghost:Attacking? Lol... He is trying to push a narrative that isn't factual...Kante, Mahrez and Hazard has dominated the EPL all from Ligue 1...A lot of farmers can play football in France... |
handelex:Good luck with English players... |
afrodoc2:Who are the top EPL defenders? Diaz from Benfica... Varane a product of Ligue 1... Azpi signed from Marseille... Van Dijk signed from the Scottish league... Varane was signed by Madrid from Lens who had just been relegated back then... Azpi was signed by Chelsea from Marseille... I assume the Scottish and Portuguese leagues qualify as farmers league too yet the best EPL defenders were signed from there... If not for his injury Fofana was already touted as one of the best EPL defenders, guess where he was signed from? Gabriel of Arsenal nko? That defenders in the French Ligue 1 are not popular is down to the league and not because they are farmers...If Ligue 1 had the money and media packaging of the EPL, they'd be miles ahead... |
afrodoc2:Illimitab.le has shut down your argument listing players who came from leagues that ordinarily you'd class as farmers league but still bossed the EPL... As I said, there's more to football... |
Doc leave history, the EPL is not far ahead of the French Ligue 1 and the players there are not farmers... We might never agree on this one so, let's just leave it here... |
handelex:They had a team good enough to match Italy on paper but on the pitch, they we saw the difference. It's mostly been so for the Three Lions heading into an international competition and most times, the coach takes the fall but away from that, isn't it time we started questioning the players? I really thought that for once England have a team filled with players who are comfortable on the ball but once they came up against top opponents, they relied more on their athleticism rather than their technical ability which seems to be there in this present crop... |
handelex:English players are overhyped, it's no news... |
Kagame is low key a dictator, one that has zero tolerance for dissenting voices... |
Illimitable:When you read about the EPL, you'd think they're about the best in the world but all of it is down to very good marketing... I have said it here before that I watch City in the UCL and they hardly dominate European teams like they do EPL teams but people won't stop over hyping the league... |
afrodoc2:Hehehe Zlatan played for PSG, the best team in the league and when he came to England, he joined the 5th best team and was older... Mbappe scored 27 goals last season, that's good but hardly jaw dropping...Salah doesn't play as a CF but he also post better numbers... The Falcao that arrived in England was already watched up... Lacazette? How many stellar seasons did he have in Ligue 1? What team did he join in England? It's like leaving Liverpool for Real Betis/Valencia and expecting to drop the same stats. Lyon was the 2nd/3rd best team in France at that time, he joined Arsenal that were on their way down... If Zlatan, Cavani, Mbappe played for the present City or Liverpool whilst at the peak of their powers, they'd have dropped top numbers... That's me trying to point out things clearly but we all know football can't be judged that way, Immobile was thrash at Dortmund but he has since been back banging goals for Lazio...Ordinarily, one would look at the Bundesliga and think it is easier to score there than in the Serie A but it didn't happen... Another instance, Ronaldo left Madrid for Juventus but was beaten to the golden boot by an old man Quagliarella in his first season and Immobile in his second season, it's only last season he was able to win the golden boot...Same Ronaldo that scored for fun in LA Liga and the UCL, are we to believe the Serie A is tougher or have better defenders? If yes, why then is Immobile doing so well there after failing in Germany? There’s more to football... I had a laugh when I read your reply...You this man, you funny sha. |
afrodoc2:Okay, I accept they're no international grade defenders in the whole league but then, why didn't/haven't Ibra, Cavani, Benzema, Falcao, Mbappe, Neymar etc scored more than 40-50 league goals not even consistently but at least for once?. Who was stopping them, farmers? Must be farmers who can play the beautiful game then... |
hoopLA:It's not down to his footballing abilities...If we start listing players that the French Ligue 1 has produced we won't stop anytime soon. If was that easy, Falcao, Ibra, Benzema, Cavani, Mbappe, Neymar and co would have been scoring 40 - 50 goals every season while they were/are there... |
GloryIsaac:They way una dey reduce Pogba and Bruno to average midfielders when it comes to an argument dey always amaze me... Neymar, Mbappe and Messi look formidable on paper but are they workable? It's left to be seen. PSG team is not balanced at all, for things to click, Poch might have to bin Veratti and go with Gueye, Paredes/Herrera and Wijnaldum because those guys in front will not put in the shift. I streamed their match yesterday, Messi was strolling as was Neymar and Mbappe without the ball...I think under the right set up, we have a good mix in our attack... Anyway sha...Time will tell. |
kushercain:You missed the point. I used the number of goals scored to highlight that those defenders are not inferior to their peers if not, the likes of Ibra, Cavani, Benzema, Mbappe and Falcai would have broken goal records playing in that league... |
elrony:I think it's Caraboa Cup... |
monerozi5590:Pogba does his job and is the better forward passer... |
afrodoc2:I could easily mention defenders from Monaco, Marseille and Lyon at least I watch them when they play PSG but you will latch onto the bolded... The goal stats for each Ligue 1 season should point to the fact that their defenders are not that bad. Moreso, that league churns out some of the finest DM who also help in shielding the defense... In summary, while they may be relatively unknown, they are not farmers neither are they grossly inferior to their peers in more popular leagues... |
afrodoc2:..........................Donnarumma............................ Hakimi.......Varane............Maguire.......Shaw...... ..................................Gueye.................................... ...................Bruno.................Pogba....................... Messi......................Mbappe.....................Neymar I can possibly swap Donnarumma for De Gea and Mbappe for Ronaldo... As for the 11 defenders, I do not follow Ligue 1 religiously but from facts on ground, they are not farmers as you try to paint them. |
afrodoc2:The back and forth is counter productive, if Ligue 1 had farmers for defenders, Mbappe would have been scoring over 40 goals per season after all he also plays in that same PSG set up. The reason why I asked for the combined 11 is to highlight that we too have a lot of quality players... If we sampled the opinions of folks about a lot of Chelsea players whilst Lampard was coach, I am certain very few persons will say anything good of Rudiger and Alonso. At was point it was as if Azpi was done at the top level and Kante was past it but look at them now. If we had Tuchel rather than Ole, Sancho will most likely be tearing up the league, VDB and a host of our players will play to their true potentials leading to pundits rating us very highly but that's not the case now so it looks like we don't have a very good team when it's not really the case. |
afrodoc2:That's your pick, another person will have Maguire and Bruno Starting...It's down to your preferences. The bottom line is that we also have a lot of quality players and good options to call from the bench in our set up so, the idea of Messi playing with top players is true for Ronaldo too... If we had a good coach, a lot of people will have us rated higher. |
Bruno did well yesterday, a much improved all round performance even though he tired out out towards the end of the game. Playing Pogba from the left didn't work because Pogba was not disciplined enough to stay wide, he was always drifting towards the center of the pitch because quite simply, it's the nature of his game, he wants to be on the ball most times so, he could stay wide and without the ball...I think it's time for Ole to make a decision, it's either he takes the risk to play McTom alone at the base with Pogba and Bruno ahead of him as LCM and RCM respectively...With this change, we won't need an out and out AM. Also, I notice Sancho wants to play those 1-2 intricate passes but others are not in sync. I think VDB and Martial are players that will do well with Sancho on the pitch... As for our next game, I hope to see Ole give those bench players a chance to show what they can offer. Henderson should start if fit. |
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elrony:Just like they had the best team last season... Football no be 1 + 1... |
Expert17:I just had to drop that screenshot because he was adamant that he was right... |
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CapitalCee:Can you help me with a link so I can read it up myself because from what I have checked, a goal is Ligue 1 is no less than a goal scored in the EPL |
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