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JayKayMaybachz:
What was SAF pattern of footy?

Quick transition from defense to attack. We bought players who suited this style and played it to near perfection...I never saw Manchester United so poor in possession and uncoordinated in their approach...

I am looking at Ole's Manchester United and I am struggling to see what he is trying to do here. He talks like he understands the problem but on the pitch, nothing suggest he knows how to fix it. For instance, he has spoken about our pressing but during games, you don't see the team pressing as a unit...

JayKayMaybachz:
Can I ask you a question..??

No qualms...

slimghost:
Reasonably? No, he has been fully backed! He said it himself. Enough of the excuses.

Abi o!

No team is complete from defence to attack, there's always a weak spot so, Ole has no excuse. We have a back 4 that can rival any team in the league, a midfield 2 that are good enough to start for any team in the league, the only concern is the DM position where Ole is expected to earn his stripes by setting us up in a way to cover for that deficiency. In attack, we can hold our own against any team in the league.

Excuses? Ole has none...

slimghost:
“Go out there and have fun”

He has been talking about a DM that fits Ole's pattern like Ole even has a pattern.

Anybody thinking of using the DM as an excuse for Ole should just kill that thought.

Ole has been reasonably supported in the transfer market, he simply has no excuse not to deliver the goods...

Griffon:
Anytime you smoke SK no come our rivals thread to type, till you don dey normal.

JayKayMaybachz:
DvD might leave next summer.. He wasn't Ole's ideal CM.. The Glazers made the signing considering the price was okay and the relationship with Vander Sar.. Ole's choice was Grealish but Aston Villa priced him out.. They Glazer's won't sanction the deal.. So they compensated us with DvD. If you notice, he doesn't really fit into Ole's pattern of footy. He loves risk takers like Bruno, Pogba et al. So here's where Bellingham comes in.. Remember, Ole wanted to sign before he chose Dortmund same with Haaland. Bookmark this page.. Utd will get 'em both. Pogba will renew his contract too

What’s Ole's pattern of football?

MrColdsweat:
Oga you're becoming a nuisance on this forum.

You're right.

KingAlabi:
Chong agreed a deal and still went for preseason training and featured in preseason matches, die the talk biko. E no make sense. Na training e wound not a match.

Manchester United had the discretion at that point as most first team players were unavailable.
For Amad, it will hurt his development sitting on the bench that why I am not happy.

Oasis007:
Deal has not been agreed yet, or did United announce it officially before the injury?

Feyenoord only opted out when he was confirmed injured.

Oasis007:
Let's dead this Argument Bro. Grealish was still training with Aston Villa, even after he has agreed personal Terms with Man City and certainly knew he's leaving the Club.

Agreeing personal terms is not the same thing as agreeing with a club. So many clubs first agree personal terms with the player just like we did we Sancho last season, the main thing is to agree a deal with the selling club.

Oasis007:
Did Nelson stop training at Arsenal afte he receives the offer?

Receive offers and having a deal agreed is it the same thing?

Oasis007:


Baba prefers Amad chilling at a Restaurant, drinking Yoghurt and eating Buns.

You people deliberately like misrepresenting someone.

Are you implying that you don't know what eve of transfer mean?

Fabrizio had reported that a deal had already been agreed and all that was left was for Amad to leave for his medical and sign with Feyenoord. Why then did he participate in training at that stage of the deal? It's not like he was even going to be on the bench against Wolves.

TheLequte:


Patrick you can’t be serious. I understand playing James was a bit reckless but stopping Amad from training

Why did Perez not tell Varane to sit at home and get fat so that he can avoid injury and make the Man Utd transfer?

Or you don’t think players need to keep fit in order to be able to play football ?

In the process of keeping fit they can even cop an injury but it is highly unlikely.

Dead this one please sir. Na beg I dey beg you

Did you read that we had agreed a deal with Feyenoord already before he sustained that injury in training?

After it was reported that we had agreed a deal for Varane, did you see him training with Real?

paafin:
Aside Amad, which other player got injured while training on the eve of a transfer?

You can reference any other club if you wish to.

Amad was just unlucky, that's all..

You try to reduce the chances as much as you can. We already had a deal in place, for me, there was no need for him to still train with the squad. It may or may not have happened before but still it doesn't negate the fact that it was a wrong move on our part.

melodyogonna:
What are the chances? It's not enough risk to exclude players from training because the chances of it happening is too little. Everything no suppose be agenda. All the players we don buy and all the players we don sell/loan dey follow their teammates train

On the eve of a transfer, it's I'll advised. It's you who thinks everything is down to your MCM...

Sometimes, it's best you read and respond without thinking everything is targeted at your MCM. He doesn't take all the decisions.

Some folks here are just impossible.

How many games will Amad play between now and January when he has the chance to move again? It was already reported that a deal was in place so, why did he join in training?

It's the same thing they did with James except that we are lucky he came out unscathed after starting away at Wolves.

melodyogonna:
What are the chances of getting injured from a training session?

Players get injured even during warm ups so make of that what you will...

Oasis007:


Tell me you are joking bro. He shouldn't train like seriously? So what will you have him doing? Chilling on the sideline when rest are busy on the training field?

On the eve of a transfer, it's I'll advised...

melodyogonna:
So he shouldn't train because he's joining Fayenoord?

Yes, anything to prevent an injury which might in turn scupper any chance of a deal being struck.

Illimitable:
I am 100% concerned with Ole’s brain power.

So any slight injury to James yesterday would have nullified this transfer to Leeds. Why did Ole start James at all knowing there was a risk of injury to him?

James contributed nothing, he was removed after 52 minutes and put on a transfer shelf 24 hours later. This is the evidence that the manager at Man Utd has zero cognitive ability.

That's how Amad got injured in training even when he was on the brink of joining Feyenoord on loan.

melodyogonna:
Lindelof is bigger sha, and due to his small stature at CB he developed better reading of the game to survive, as opposed to bullying strikers.

Lindelof started out as a midfielder actually...

eph12:
He likes you too as a guy but as a football fan wey no sabi ball, definitely not

This man...Lol

eph12:
Is that not the same thing we have been saying since? How dare anyone question Bruno's position and involvement

The once that are arguing are still in denial of what is obvious maybe because he scores and assist a lot.

afrodoc2:
On a more serious note the major fault is the manager's. Fred is not a CDM yet you play him there with our laziest midfielder as his partner. A manager has to place his players in the best position to succeed and Amaka so far has not succeeded in doing that consistently enough.

That however does not absolve Fred and a few of the other players from individual errors of potentially catastrophic proportions. Miscuing a simple interception and passing the ball straight to the most dangerous opponent on the pitch are borderline criminal actions.

A true 4-3-3 with one CDM and 2 CMs (and no 10/SS) will give us better control and make us a better team overall. With the wealth of talent we have in our forward line now we don't need a 2nd striker the way Bruno plays it. What we need is more control in midfield in order to dictate the tempo of games.

For a CDM and Pogba in midfield to work Bruno has to drop into midfield and make it a real 3 man midfield with a CDM, Pogba at LCM, and Bruno at RCM. We have enough firepower in attack with 3 out of CR7, Greenwood, Sancho, Cavani, Martial, Rashford on the pitch at any given time.

Thank you, this is what it is.

eph12:
Because I asked if that's how he lies? It's well know that Maguire pushes the ball forward most times when he has that space. It has nothing to do with who is playing DM. I don't like lies

Hehehe

But to be sincere, I don't think they trust Fred especially when he has a man on him...

eph12:
Is this how you lie everyday?

Una sure say no be Fred or him agent be this?

As soon as you mention Fred, my guy go ready to attack or defend...

eph12:
Donny and who?

Fred calm down.

Na you or McTom.

afrodoc2:
Varane think say na Casemiro.

All Brazilians are not created equal o.

Chai! This one wey you dey drag one of us, Maka why?

I think it's a straight choice between Bruno and Pogba, one of them has to be benched if we are not signing a DM otherwise, only two of Ronaldo/Rashford/Cavani/Sancho/Greenwood/Martial should start...

Ole has the next one days to figure out how to set up against Newcastle United...

Our attack is loaded with quality and numbers but when match start, we will be playing like Watford...Ronaldo will not accept the mediocrity from most of the players, I expect all of them to raise their game else CR7 will want out next summer...

Illimitable:
If we had an elite DM, Pogba and Bruno would be advanced midfielders - 5 players in the final third of Wolves.

The game would have been easier to score unlike what we saw. I hate when Pogba is stuck next to Fred in a double pivot. Pogba is better offensively than defensively.

70% of Pogba’s output is lost when he plays as a DM. We are a much better side when he’s further up the pitch. I don’t understand how everyone sees this but Ole sees something different.

Check when Pep plays KDB and Gundogan in front of Rodri...You hardly find that much space between the pair even when they attack. Rodri always has passing options either to the two CBs or their full backs or to either of Gundogan or KDB.

When attacking, Gundogan will ghost into the box, KDB will be a little withdrawn with Rodri stationed in the opponents half whilst the 2 fullbacks supply the width and the CBs push up close to the Centre of the pitch. This makes the pitch small for the opponents as they're kind of crowded out thus City can easily recover possession with their press. It's a system that involves all the units functioning, each player must be well positioned for their press to be coordinated. It is not down to the superior defensive quality of Rodri but more to their system.

A DM is important but in our present set up, Ndidi will look above average at best. I can't remember a game where I saw an opponent running at Rodri. Pep will never set up to allow the opponent attackers have a go at his defenders, it rarely does happen and when it does, most times City drop points because individually some of their defenders are suspect but as a unit, they're that good.

We should learn how to keep the ball and progressively attack and defend as a unit...

Illimitable:
Bruno is a high risk high reward player.

Man Utd knew what they were getting fully well before they signed him. If you are judging Bruno on ball retention or pass accuracy, you would miss the point because his first instinct when he receives the ball is to make a highly risky pass forward.

This is why he’s the heart and soul of every attacking move we make. Bruno is in his 3rd season and he has not lost an away PL game at Man Utd. There is a reason for that. United need to give him an elite DM to cushion the effect of his low ball retention stats.

From what you saw yesterday with Fred chasing Trincao in one action and in another trying to dispossess Traore, do you really think all we need is a DM and all our problems will be solved?

We need a DM, no doubt it but I don't see how even Makelele will fix the issues we have in the team.