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Finish the story please

eniobanke101:
Kindly reach me,I can help thanks

Okay, can i have your number for effective communication.

Inspirelove:
why do you people like to start battle u cannot win, even angelique kidjo sang and referred to Oyo Ile.. how do we have Yoruba in Togo and Benin republic ? even as far as Ghana... what made the Oyo language the central Yoruba language in Yoruba land ? Why is Alafin refer to as Political heads in Yoruba land ? Oga if u do not have history, leave us with our history.

Don't mind those omo irankiran,TAO11 already roasted them many times but they are sturbbon.

I need GOTV at clearance price
Pls quote me if your have, thank you.

obitryce:
Port Harcourt, 4k last!!

But I'm in lagos.

Pofgrace:
where are you? I'm in Ibadan though

Lagos

CUMIN:
This is a legal business. Even bank will be will to bankroll him due to his business pedigree and goodwill

Thanks for the clarification

Pofgrace:
go to multichoice office or dealer that's how much they re selling it I got it for someone at that price the promo is still on

I've been to like 5 places, they are all saying it's not available.

Pofgrace:
new one is 6900 now

Do you sell it sir ?
Are you in Lagos

Who is bankrolling him ?

theenchanter:
if @henroo2003 doesn't need it, I'll give u.

Lol,it's okay.

obitryce:
RELOCATION SALES!!! RELOCATION SALES!!!

GOTV DECODER – 5K
COOKING GAS CYLINDER (15KG)-13k
COOKING GAS CYLINDER (6KG) – 5K
COMPLETE SET OF CHAIRS (2 SINGLE SEATER, DOUBLE AND 3-SEATER) + THROW PILLOWS – 150K
TV STAND – 30K
WESTCOOL DEEP FREEZER (200L) – 90K
LG MICROWAVE – 15K
LG EXPRESS COOL CHEST FRIDGE – 50K
6*4.5 BED FRAME & MATTRESS – 50K
6*6 BEDFRAME & ORTHOPEDIC MATTRESS – 90K
6*4.5 MATTRESS – 15K
ELEPAQ 2.5Kva PETROL GENERATOR 50K
WOODEN CENTER TABLE + 4 SIDE STOOLS – 30K
TOP LOADER WASHING MACHINE (7KG) – 50K
LG TABLE TOP FRIDGE – 50K
32’’ SAMSUNG LED TV – 55K
BIG SIZE CENTER RUG – 15K
MEDIUM SIZED RUG – 12K
Thermocool 6.5kva IGWE Generator-150k
Ceiling fan (3) -5k each

Let's do the Gotv 3k pls, what's your location ?

Pls I need GOTV DECODER for clearance sale in Lagos

theenchanter:
I have one, I can give u for free...... But I've lost the antenna and cable, the only available thing is the decoder and remote.

Can't even remember the last time I subscribed on it sef.

Pls can I come for the Gotv pls, I've been unable to get one for like two weeks now in Lagos.

nedekid:
Ignore that Fulani.
Dont fall for the divide and rule tactics.

Okay sir

uBuNiT:
Agree but yorubas are useless without Igbos despite whatever they generate

Your father must have been a stark dullard to have birthed an slowpoke son like you.

There's a proverb that says don't compare ajigbonoku with the Elephant, I can't really remember.. My little contribution.

Dabronze:
pardon me for that I cant remmeber the name of that governor

Okay sir, it's either Olusegun Agagu or Mimiko

Dabronze:
It was beacuse of the witch and t the evil people in that village they hate electricity when they fly in the night
when the former govenor Olagunsoye Oyinlaola commission the transformer in that village is not up to a day that those evill peopl destroy it if you know OKITIPUPA very well is full of evill people.

When was Oyinlola the governor of Ondo state ?

southpole:
the kingdom of heaven is not for all of us so he is not expecting everyone to buy into his idea , the redeemed will surely buy into his ideas. Jesus is the Lord

Oga goan sleep.... Nothing una wan talk wey we never hear before,go to Sambisa and preach not disturbing people here.

Righteousness2:
GOD Bless you.
I don't mind dem at all
They are my boys and girls. They are the Raw Materials GOD is using to Expand the Gospel.

Mr Man getat... Not all of us buy into your idea.

Kolisky:
You were fed with enough cashews and mangoes

So good to have you here sir

It's really worth it sir
I wish to come back one day, i still think about the place.

Quwamdeen:
Isin LG kopa

Dem ijara Isin and oke onigbin

Kolisky:
At least, that my small town will always be in your history

Yes, I know Onijala. You worked in their farm named Darion

Buh, I dey Futa here sha

You sabi...
The place is cool sha with enough cashew and mango.... Lol

Ntigha:
how was life at yikpata camp?

I redeployed sir, i was not posted to kwara state initially.

Kolisky:
You just mentioned my town

Can you imagine

Olla, Isin LGA Kwara State

Lol, that una small Olla... Do you know about the family ?

A farm at Olla, close to omu aran in kwara state

Sacredness:
you are walking against the rule,you are quoting scriptures
The same bible also said
faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God
what you are trying to inquate is a against the law

Will you please shut up, even your almighty Isreal that you all believe is God first child have suffisticated weapons.
Dear OP,find a way to get your gun jarey.

TAO11:
I’d try.

This would get technical, but I trust that you would be able to follow through.


In the light of my earlier comment, the popular idea that the name “Yoruba” originated from some alleged derogatory remark by Sultan Bello - blah-blah - actually has no leg to stand on.

The name “Yoruba” (in reference to Yoruba-speaking peoples) is evidently more antique than the first Fulani emirate in our region. This is evident from the 1600s Timbuktu writings which makes reference to this name.

As has been shown, the name “Yoruba” (in reference to the Yoruba-speaking peoples) predates the 1600s — to have been a well-known pre-existing name in as far as Mali since the early 1600s.

Now, given these two backgrounds, namely: 1) the false-exogeneity of this name, and 2) its considerable antiquity; it logically follows then that any attempt at its etymological components need not be a 100% certainty — and that is okay for an antique name from a pre-literate society.

In fact, many literate cultures do not have a 100% certainty whatsoever as per the etymological components of their “groups’ names”, and that’s okay too. These names are also antique — e.g. “London”, “Japan”, amongst innumerable others.

The fairest possible original one may then arrive at for the present-day indigenous name, “Yoruba”, is via one or both of the following approaches:

1) A careful consideration of the syllabic-components of the present-day name in the light of the relevant historical and linguistic realities.

2) An examination of what the received traditions have to say regarding the etymology of the name — if any such received traditions on its etymology exist.

Starting with the second:
Actually, some received traditions exist regarding the etymological components of the name “Yoruba”.

The Reverend Samuel Ajayi Crowther, in the 1800s, collected a tradition from among the Egbas which says that an earlier phrase from which this name arises is the phrase: “Ori Obba”.

I am yet to lay my hands on the material itself. I got this from a secondary source which has proven to me to be 100% trustworthy.

I am thus not yet able to access any further remark he may have passed regarding this account which he got from the Egbas.


Regarding the first:
I have to begin with a disclaimer. I do not claim to have originally come up with this observation.

However, I did expound it beyond the very cursory highlight penned by its author — the columnist, Farouk Martins Omo Aresa.

In the name “Yoruba”, Omo Aresa spotted the basic components: Oyo & Oba — “OYO-OBA, OYO-ROBA, OYO-RUBA”.

He remarked briefly on how this flows from Yoruba “orikis”, and he expressed a subtle regret on how this has gone unnoticed by many.

Now, I find this view to be highly explanatory not merely because of those two components.

Rather, those two components fit very nicely into the relevant historical and linguistic realities.

Firstly, the phrase: “Oyo is the King” (in the sense of Oyo as the new sheriff in town) fits nicely with the fact that “Oyo” was the core Yoruba polity which succeeded Ife after Ife’s military and commercial decline in the early/mid-1400s.

~ Robin Horton, (1979), p. 141.

The phrase “Oyo is the King” is thus rooted in an endogenous Oyo attitude which must have begun as early as the late-1400s following Ife’s decline as the Yoruba power in the Guinea Forest from the early/mid-1400s.

Secondly, this phrase: “Oyo is the King” apparently continued when Oyo embarked on actual imperial programs (which gradually saw the Alaafin of Oyo as the proud overlord over other kingdoms too) right after the successful return of the capital from Oyo-Igboho back to Oyo-Ile in the late 1500s.

Thirdly, having began to dominate other Yoruba kingdoms from the late-1500s; the phrase “Oyo is the king” must therefore have taken the shape of a proper appellation which is now no longer restricted only to the Oyo-subgroup of the Yoruba group.

This explains Ahmad Baba’s reference to the name “Yoruba” (as a group’s name — rather than a fraction of a group) in the year 1615. His reference indicates a well-known pre-existing group name.

This also explains why (in the early 1800s) many former Oyo tributaries (after their independence from Oyo) initially refused to re-adopt this apparently ‘hegemonic’ group name.

Fourthly, turning to the linguistic angle; it may seem unrealistic that a Yoruba translation of the phrase, “Oyo is the King”, would come any close to the name “Yoruba”.

Yes, without a careful and deep consideration, the translation “Oyo ni Oba” is all one would get from the phrase: “Oyo is the King”.

And that doesn't seem anywhere close to the name “Yoruba” — especially considering the fact that “ni” is the Yoruba equivalent of the English word “is”.

So, while the historical side appears consistent all along so far; the linguistic angle seems to suggest a grave hole which demolishes this explanation.

But as will soon be seen, there is actually no linguistic hole at all in this explanation.

Fifthly, the translation of the word “is” (in the phrase: “Oyo is the king” ) as “ni” (in Yoruba language) actually ignores a key fact.

This translation ignores the fact that the present-day Yoruba equivalent of “is” (which is “ni“ ) was not unchanging over the centuries up till present-day.

For example, the (1800s) writings of Rev. Samuel Crowther shows the word “li” to be a Yoruba equivalent of the English word “is” in the 1800s.

In the light of this 1800s fact, the phrase: “Oyo is the King” would have been translated as “Oyo li Oba” using the 1800s’ realities.

If this was the evolving reality between the 1800s and now; what then would have been the Yoruba equivalent of “is” in the actual period of our interest — i.e. the 1400s and the 1500s??

To delve into this distant past of our language, recourse has to be made to an established fact in linguistic analysis, which is that:

(1) The present differentiated dialects of a language were actually more undifferentiated and more uniform the farther back in time you go.

In specific terms, all the present-day dialectal differentiations of the Yoruba language were actually more undifferentiated 100 years ago. And they are even more undifferentiated 200 years ago, and so forth into the past.

This linguistic fact would soon prove to be very useful for our deconstruction and regress.

(2) In addition to the foregoing linguistic fact, another observation among present-day Yoruba dialects which would also prove very useful is the fact that some Yoruba dialects have proven very, very stable over time.

These relatively stable dialects are those which must be resorted to in order to reasonably unravel what the Yoruba language must have uniformly sounded like many centuries ago.

These ‘stable’ dialects are found along the southern, eastern and south-eastern Yoruba frontiers. To be very precise, some of them are the Ijebu and the Itsekiri dialects of the Yoruba language, among others in the region.

This is well-known to linguists, but to spotlight some instances of this fact; some Yoruba words are alive till date among all Yorubas, but only in usage — their meanings have generally been lost to time.

However, these words are preserved intact till date in both usage and meaning in the Ijebu dialect for example.

The Yoruba word ”Ùwà”, as in “Alaiyeluwa”, is an example in this regard. It is a considerably antique Yoruba word.

Another category are Yoruba words whose usage are generally lost and even replaced by other words — but only remembered to have once been in use.

The Yoruba word “Olùkù” which has been completely replaced by another word (though remembered to have once been in use) is an example in this regard.

This word is still alive in meaning and in everyday usage in the Ijebu dialect of the Yoruba language.

These among some more technical reasons explains the resort to the Ijebu dialect in an attempt to establish what a more uniform and undifferentiated Yoruba language would have sounded like many centuries ago.

In the light of this approach, the phrase “Oyo is the King” in the Ijebu dialect (which is our dialectal yardstick for a uniform Yoruba language of the 1400s) translates simply as:

“Oyo ri Oba” (in writing) and “Oyo r’Oba” (orally).

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Thanks for this clear and forward explanation of the word Yoruba, I really appreciate your good works and can't thank you enough for this well detailed explanation, pls permit me to keep a copy of it for my yet unborn kids.

tujays:
why should I be concerned when I'm not an Ignoramus or raised with the Victim mentality bullcrap? when they kill you, you kill them back and the circles continuous.. what makes you different from them? and you shouldn't be concerned about the killings in your backyard be concerned only about SK killings. you fight yourselves and kill yourselves because of Tribalism and religious differences and you think yall are okay in your brains?? haha I've got a much higher IQ of reasoning boy.

You fool, I'm not from your tribe nor from your geographical location you sentence are incoherent .

tujays:
I'm Southern KD and I'm folding my arms and watching like mumu to see where this una gragra go lead una to. las las we go know who be the real MuMu

You should be concerned about your people that is being slaughtered daily like goat by the foolanis.

konny1:
OK
Nice info

Must you quote everything