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Please my mum complained that MTN is sending her message to go and update her SIM registration information and come with her passport. Is this legit or 419 because she has registered her SIM since the beginning of SIM registration and she just started getting this message. She said they gave her deadline of 1st August 2019

I'm not saying that dress code is not important. Even without religion our culture and morals suggest we dress decently but what I don't agree with is the pastor's idea of jewelry, hair and makeup being a problem.

The reason I mentioned the Deuteronomies was because of their era, most people will read not putting on clothes of the opposite sex as meaning women wearing trousers. If you recall during their era men wear skirts, there wasn't even anything like pants or trousers.

Women have been known from time immemorial to beautify themselves...what those scriptures say is a woman's outward appearance shouldn't define her character (in this case beauty is identified as appearance and character) but some of these men of God will go drive a wrong message.

The issue of dressing is subjective. Why do I say so? The common saying is dress the way you want to be addressed. A woman who dresses provocatively associates her with prostitutes. Just as it is today when you see some over excessive makeup, jewellery and dressing, it makes men associate women with call girls and the likes. That is exactly the way it was in the era of the bible. Those bible passages are a moral guide to the people of the their time and our time today.

Even men today who do things likened with women fall into the homosexual category, and you will also see them do in excess.

The problem we have is extremists in religion who would have women look unkept and untidy and yet behind these so called pastors will be chasing the adorned women in secret.

So you see where my annoyance is...not necessarily you but just the extremists

coolcentbigman:
e pain you tell me e pain you abi? Seems like you both attend the same church. I have nothing against you but since u quoted me yes i now do, You even sound more senseless than Daddy freeze why not send me back to time yourself na!!

The issue of our dressing code is a very important issue we need to rule out as christains. Imagine what he was saying "Christianity has NO dress code but ‘Churchism’ & ‘bornagainism’ two false , pagan religions, based on the ideas of men, do.."
He even went further to say "Let’s remember that Christ did not tell his disciples to go out and start religions, but as humans they soon unwittingly found themselves teaching their followers religion." So because they talked about how to dress decently makes them religious or whatever so the teaching of the disciples were wrong but he qouted and gave his own expalnations, who is decieving who.
There are so many verse that speaks against indecent dressing and mind you i didn't twist anything in the verses but your freeze did even making many confused. The man's ideology is very bad now i see why is followers have nothing go to show always jumps into conclusion without thinking.
Why i'm saying these always of is because of those churches who say your dressing code doesn't matter but your heart does, my dear both does matter.

God doesn't change you don't do thing because the society does it and see how senseless you sound better still time travel to the era of the Deuteronomies then you can live like them.
i don't need to travel through time because i have my Bible...

You obviously understand your own version of the bible... continue but don't indoctrinate others with your false knowledge. Or better still time travel to the era of the Deuteronomies then you can live like them. Maybe you can enlighten them about your generation of smartphones, denims and pumps while your walking on their dessert sands. Mtchew

You see the problem with religionists, you people paint the bible to suit yourselves. You only hear what you want to hear and unfortunately that's all you people will ever know.

coolcentbigman:
This man and internet, i wonder if he can stay a day without using the internet. Shmm i reither listen to ghetto Gospel from my niggas smoking weed than listen to yours, So what you are saying in excess is Christians are free to dress as pleased. Do you know what the bible says about seduction and that's what you are encouraging and even the bible says so much about indecent dressing. I don't really blame you when you spend your time on irrelevant issues instead of reading the bible and be directed by the spirit before speaking...

1 Timothy 2:9-10 "Paul said: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God."

1 Peter 3:2-5 "Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight."

Proverbs 11:22 "Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion."

Deuteronomy 22:5 "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God."

It's like everyone can wear anything they want and society allows it. However, we don't follow what society dictates; we follow what God says. In Deutoronomy, it said that we cannot cross dress. What's made for women should only be worn by women and what's made for men must only be worn by men. Let this verses be a gentle reminder.

Don't be deceived...

And to think I thought you guys were condemning JW, I see they have the greatest award in condemnation. The truth is I still wonder why one religion can be so divided. It's the same word of God and some people just see themselves as better. Anyway it is well because all I see is that we Christians are the ones that are making the aethiests population increase.

I'm off this thread. OP thanks for the message on submission, I gained a lot.

Bye bye

solite3:
I do not wish to condemn you I may seem rather harsh but believe me it was never to condemn you.
rather I pray that you find the truth and true peace lilmissfavvy.
Jesus loves you I love you too with the love of God.Beware of Jehovah witness organisation or any other that deny Jesus and his word, dont fall into error.

Same with peggywoman.

Shallom.

Wow. You said it all. That's the reason I can't be part of your group.

Maximus69:
Great!

So go and worship your God and we will go and worship our JEHOVAH!

As for the marriage thing we don't believe you're a Christian if you're not one of us!

Most religionists thought Christianity is about speaking nicely when you ought to set matters straight, but we Jehovah's Witnesses aren't like that, we will tell you that you may be a nice, kind, gentle and honest individual but that doesn't make you a Christian!

There are prerequisites of becoming a Christian and whoever refuses to follow all the steps remain our neighbour NOT our brother or sister in Christ!

That's why we don't marry outsiders because we shouldn't be unevenly yoked with unbelievers and since you're not one of us, you're an unbeliever!

No I'm fine. I prefer studying my bible alone. I believe when you join groups you end up being indoctrinated. I don't agree with JWs ideas on the book of Revelations. I remember one of the group bible study classes I had with them in school and I spent the one hour listening to the fact that only 144,000 Jehovah witnesses will be saved.

I believe the bible is very symbolic. 90% of the bible is about God revealing things in riddles which means interpretation isn't literal. I also didn't like the fact that you guys do not usually support marriages with a non Jehovah witness. Those are my reasons for not joining. But I don't discriminate because we are all Christians.

Maximus69:
You need to first study the Bible with the one and only true Christian group{Jehovah's Witnesses}!
They will help you to know why people finds it so difficult to subject themselves to learn from those who knew more than them.
You're insisting on something that's not bearing any praise worthy fruit amongst those practicing it, when you're seeing those not practicing it bearing good fruits bountifully!

Well you're not Maximus and Maximus is not you!

Ok. But really don't mind those arguements on the thread. I basically gave them 1 Corinth 3&4 to read which talks about the role of Teachers of the word of God and immature Christians.

I do not dispute the value of living in oneness as Christians and that is what I admire about JW. I choose not to be part of those people who condemn the house of God.

The truth I discovered along the line is many Christians are more concerned about the gifts or spirit of the Holy Spirit than they are with true salvation. They want recognition and the honour for being able to do many wonders and they miss the message which ends up putting people off their message. And with the incessant arguements of I'm a better Christian than the other, it makes people want to just give up on religion.

I understand why you won't focus on the idea of leaning towards those spiritual wonders as a lot of Christians have corrupted it.

I've even been accused by many Christians and friends saying I'm not a Christian and they are better. I don't bother arguing because I will just prefer to read my bible and ignore all the noise around.

Ok my brother have a beautiful day.

Maximus69:
@peggywebbs

A perfect example of the patches and unfitting designs of Tailor A is what all of you have been arguing ever since on this particular thread!
Your so called pastors and voices experts are saying women should be downgraded as second class creatures {after many of them have mistreated women} and majority of them called Pastors are either singles {using their female members as sex machines} or DIVORSED!
Whereas Jehovah's Witnesses are stringent with the rule that after God and Jesus, the next person to please is NOT our mum, dad, brother, sister, auntie, Uncle NOT even our boss or anyone else but our wives! Because God's word said we've become one flesh! Genesis 2:24, Matthew 19:5 compared to1Peter 37

So first convince your folks as in hearers of your so called voices to work on that before coming to tell me how useful or beneficial such voices could be!

What you said sounds just exactly like me. Pursuit for answers. I'm not really particular about any denomination when it comes to churches, I attend Catholic, Methodist, I've even attended JW in school and several penticostal churches.

Like I said I'm not saying you should change your church so far it is the word of God JW is fine.

Hearing voices isn't always a good thing but it also proves the existence of the supernatural. No matter where you go no one can answer questions of the supernatural, not even me.

That's why I said you should keep an open mind, forget all your journey, your inquiries and everything you know for a while and just ask God for answers. I have tried it and God will speak to you in your own language, not necessarily by hearing voices. All I just know is when you encounter him, you will just know.

Please consider my request, just ask him all those questions about Holy Spirit and all that people talk about, and wait for him to show you. I have a very strong feeling about this.

Maximus69:
There are so many false doctrines and teachings all around the world today, their secrets are blown open as they're of no lasting benefits!

Satan keeps redesigning his strategies to capture more and more people from all the corners of the earth.
When i was about the age of seven ~ twelve i often hear voices and dreams which ALWAYS COMES TRUE!
My uncle {C&S member} asked for my parents permission to take me along with him so i can start attending his Church where i can develop the gift and become a prophet.
My father {a staunch Muslim} laughed so loud because it sounds so stupid to him but because he loved his brother he said 'let him grow older, i'm sure he will decide for himself whether to become a prophet or not'

Today makes 36 years after, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses, i never became a prophet and i also abandoned Islam!
Why?
Well there are thousands of questions in my mind back then as a child, most times i'll ask my Father, Mother, Uncle, Auntie, Alfa, Imam, none of them had satisfying answers and that's how i grew up. I became a military intelligence officer and travelled to many countries due to the nature of my job.
That's how i became exposed to so many ideas like Atheism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Witchcraft and many more. But a careful consideration of all these groups revealed that they're all just like ants moving around encircling a cube of Sugar. Because none of them meet up as having the ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE about life and it's purpose.
I met Jehovah's Witnesses in Europe when one of them came to drop a literature at the gate of our client, i read part of it and ever since then i couldn't stop asking their members questions regarding the purpose of life.
They are the only group that answered my questions and made me leave that job for home {Nigeria}
Well i can't say you shouldn't follow the voices,those healings and other things associated with them. One thing i want you to know is that apart from Jehovah's Witnesses there is no other group on earth today where people don't hear or believe in voices.

BUT NONE OF THEM IS OF ANY LASTING BENEFITS TO THEM AND THERE NEIGHBOURS!

Hello Maximus69

I read your comment but I just couldn't resist the urge to comment. I do not have anything against JW, I have friends from the church and I see all of us as Christians. Here's what I will tell you. I am a lawyer and a researcher. I am always ready to find the truth wherever it leads my inquisitiveness.

I was brought up in a Christian home, my dad wasn't all that religious but my mum she was more committed. I was Anglican and even as a child no one told me anything about gifts of the spirit, healing or miracles so I didn't worry about them.

As I became a teenager my mum will ask me, did you hear God's voice and I'll look at her like seriously? There was even a time I spent hours in silence hoping to hear a voice but nothing. Back to present day, what happened was God was talking but I wasn't listening. Right from when I was very small I would just know some things which I can not have any knowledge about. I would be taken to places (I didn't know it was the spirit realm until last year) and I was able to counsel people, resolve disputes not by my own power because I am usually very shy.

I witnessed healing first hand and not from the hands of a pastor but by faith. When Jesus died he said he will send the Holy Spirit (John 14:15-31). The work of Christians does not end with the disciples and that is why more apostles where appointed to set up churches and spread the word. Jesus came to set a foundation and he showed us everything we should do. That's why we are called Christians, (Christ like).

The false prophets and teachers, false miracles and magic are usually contrary to the word of God. There is a lot you will need to know and the bible has all the answers. The work of God has not ended until the last day. Prosecution of Christians all around the world is real and still going on, evangelism is very real, there are so many people that have not received the word of God or knowledge of Christ.

I can't go into details because there is so much to discover but here's what I want you to do. If you hear a lot of people talking about the Holy Spirit, dreams, visions, and the rest and you don't believe, find out why they keep talking about these things. I mean keep an open mind, put away everything you know or have learned in church for a while, go on your knees and ask God to reveal the truth. That's all and let him answer you.

I'm not condemning you but I'm just saying keep an open mind and seek answers through prayer.

I believe in my heart that you will get answers but only if you ask. God bless my brother

Maximus69:
During the first century, when Christianity was born as a new child, all those mentioned were characteristics of the new born baby. 1Corinthians 13:11
But as Christianity started advancing to maturity all those gifts ENDED! 1Corinthians 13:12
So why having it in the first instance?
Jesus answered by saying there will be false even amongst his followers{Matthew 7:21-23} therefore how will the word of God be completed since Malachi is not the end of all the sacred writings God intended to reveal to mankind?
That's why all these signs will accompany those that will COMPLETE God's word, but after it's completion they will all cease!
Today the only sign left for sincere and honesthearted persons to RECOGNISE pure worship is LOVE! 1Corinthians 13:13 compared to John 13:34-35

As for all these later days signs, please try to make a thorough research regarding the Churches from the second century to early twentieth century, you can never find any traces of all these because it has ended at the close of the first century after the completion of the Bible! So all those claiming Christians afterwards don't pretend to have any such signs.
But the Bible revealed that when it's close to the time Satan will be abysed he will quickly send out demons to start giving all these signs in order to mislead people {Revelations 16:14} so that even while true Christians are telling them the TRUTH they'll continue doubting because of those FAKE signs!
Note what that verse said 'it's all in a bid to gather people against God!'

So YES! we know that the signs are for REAL and that those people are truly possessed by spirits but they're NOT from God, otherwise Jesus won't say they will perform signs that could deceive EVEN THOSE CHOSEN BY GOD! Matthew 24:24
The reason why Jesus said these is because by the time Satan starts performing all these signs, true worshipers of God would have passed that stage and all that will occupy their minds is the LOVE of God {1John 5:3}
Remember that Timothy also one of the first century Christians wasn't cured miraculously but advised to GO AND TAKE MEDICATIONS {1Timothy 5:23} is that not a sign that the powers to heal instantly amongst them has began diminishing?
So whatever happens during the end times {2Timothy 3:1-5} shouldn't make them wander about for MIRACLES { Mark 13:21} to solve the problems that only God's kingdom will settle once and for all times! Galatians 5:19-21
God bless you!

I came to this thread because the subject interested m. I read the OPs message and I loved it. I went further down and saw the comment of men loving their wives and I also loved that observation. You can't seperate the Bible from the society. The bible is meant to be our moral compass.
If you want to send a message to the world, then you must be able to connect with the society especially since the message is to enlighten women about their roles to their husbands.
The rate of divorce keeps rising at an alarming rate and I appreciate when people come up with relevant solutions to counsel couples entering into marriages. I believe women should submit at all times and with wisdom. Why do I say so? Because our society is becoming more and more corrupt so you have to also submit without comprising your beliefs.

Man and woman should be aware of their roles in a marriage and that is what I think LilMissFavy is talking about. She only made the inclusion of love in addition to submission because most marriages lack the element of love. You would agree that the foundation of most marriages these days are not built on love.


I went on to read further and saw the comment of the JW fellow. First of all I am not Jehovah's Witness but I am a Christian. When I hear the word of God, so far it is not contrary to what the Bible says I agree. We are all Christians.

I remember a revelation I got some months back and it was part of the message the Lord was passing. He said there is no love in the church and that doesn't mean any denomination but the general church. I got this scriptures from the Holy Spirit in a vision, please read 1 Corinth chapter 3 and 4. I didn't make up this chapters but I urge you to read it. It describes our role as servants of God. I got this message particularly after I received a condemnation from a friend of mine. It was God's simple answer to my question.

We are all Christians, whether JW, Catholic, Baptist etc. We are all building on the foundation which Jesus Christ has laid and it is on the last day that each will be judged according to what we have built on that foundation. We should not judge who is a Christian before the ultimate judge comes.

Also please do not tell people they do not have the Holy Spirit, and also do not boast with the Holy Spirit. Pray instead and leave in love. The message of the Holy Spirit does not condemn but instead shows conviction (convincing people about the message of God).

As I read on further on this thread all I saw was bickering. 2 TIMOTHY 2:23‭-‬25 AMP says:

But have nothing to do with foolish and ignorant speculations [useless disputes over unedifying, stupid controversies], since you know that they produce strife and give birth to quarrels. The servant of the Lord must not participate in quarrels, but must be kind to everyone [even-tempered, preserving peace, and he must be], skilled in teaching, patient and tolerant when wronged. He must correct those who are in opposition with courtesy and gentleness in the hope that God may grant that they will repent and be led to the knowledge of the truth [accurately understanding and welcoming it],

Please you all should remember that even in six months time new people will visit this thread and all they would see especially aethiests will just be seeing Christians using bible passages to barter each other.

The bible is complete, every woman has her role in a marriage and men also. When one arm is faulty, the whole body is affected. We need love, patience, obedience, kindness and all good attributes from both parties to make a sustainable marriage.

solite3:
the post never called for argument. I do not preach society or whatever it believes.






If you are a Christian you would be intrested in what God commands not wordly value.
As a Christian wife you should submit to your husband whether he loves you or not same with a man.
Jesus said we should even love our enemies amd pray for those who dispitefully use us, going by worldly value Jesus is insane and an oppressor but the things human considers to be wisdom is foolishness before God.

1 Corinthians 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Every Christian should follow the example of Jesus.
When Jesus would have revenge for himself yet he prayed for his enemies.

If you call yourself a Christian and yet you oppose God ways you are not a christian just a goat pretending to be sheep.

I won't bother arguing with folks on this thread. Apparently the op has a problem with women who are independent. We live in a society that believes a woman is the one that needs marriage so she should be ready to hold on to it with all her strength whether she is loved or not.

The Op tells women to submit and his other male counterparts do not believe a woman should be loved. You argue with them, they will tell you you're not a Christian so please just leave them to find the woman that would submit to them without love.

LilMissFavvy:
If his write up is from the Bible he would have also advice men to love their wives, and teach men ways to show love. Yes marriage is destroyed because a wife who submits but is not shown love, is bound to begin to rebel or hate her husband.

Olumba olumba is not God.. he's just a con artist.

Charleys:
A supposed God begging a president to listen to him that he has solution.

If you're looking for a death wish.. there over a million ways to die.. there's really no point waiting for God to do it. He's not a murderer.

advocate666:
I am evil. Surely a good God wouldn't let me live.

God is evil.

It means you can be Christian and not born again and you can be born again while being a Christian. Not every Christian is born again.

obione16:
What does it mean?

Oya clap for your self. They say knowledge is power.

I'm not disputing the existence of visions. I'm just saying when anyone comes with a vision or prophecy, test it with the word of God. I still say that the Holy Spirit is gentle and Jesus does not fly at a lightening speed. Where is he running to.

Anyway I hope you also know that the devil also appears as an angel of light..so I'm not quick to accept anyone's proclamation if my spirit does not detect the word of God.

There are many false prophets and they will also declare signs and wonders. As far as I'm concerned. As for spiritual gifts please don't lecture me on that.

Phyde:
If you really understand the Bible and It completion, you will know that demonstration of the Power is beyond human reasoning and written pages. I have experienced it and i have done it. Pray and desire Spiritual Gifts and stop doubting the Wonders of God.

Really? Please tell me something I don't know. Anyway choose to believe magic...the word of God is complete.

Phyde:
If you have experience the Power of God, you will understand what we are talking about. It is beyond what you think you have read in the Bible with your knowledge of english. Peace.

Holy Spirit does not pin down anyone. Read your bible, it is a gentle spirit..and Jesus does not speed run ( that's action movie). Please read your bible and let the word of God guide you. The purpose of visions is to glorify God and usually for a message to men on earth. Anything else is just a means of deception.

Phyde:
I strongly believed this this woman from the way she explained the Electrifying experience and the Pinning down of her husband. Major characteristics of the Holy Spirit.

EZEKIEL 13:9 AMP

“So My hand will be against the [counterfeit] prophets who see (make up) empty and delusive visions and who give lying prophecies. They will have no place in the [secret] council of My people, nor will they be recorded in the register of the house of Israel, nor will they enter into the land of Israel, that you may know [without any doubt] that I am the Lord God .


JEREMIAH 23:16 AMP
Thus says the Lord of hosts, “Do not listen to the words of the [false] prophets who prophesy to you. They are teaching you worthless things and are leading you into futility; They speak a vision of their own mind and imagination And not [truth] from the mouth of the Lord.

MATTHEW 24:24 AMP

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and they will provide great signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect (God’s chosen ones).

2 PETER 2:1‭-‬22 AMP

But [in those days] false prophets arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will subtly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways, and because of them the way of truth will be maligned. And in their greed they will exploit you with false arguments and twisted doctrine. Their sentence [of condemnation which God has decreed] from a time long ago is not idle [but is still in force], and their destruction and deepening misery is not asleep [but is on its way]. For if God did not [even] spare angels that sinned, but threw them into hell and sent them to pits of gloom to be kept [there] for judgment; and if He did not spare the ancient world, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought [the judgment of] a flood upon the world of the ungodly; and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter; and if He rescued righteous Lot, who was tormented by the immoral conduct of unprincipled and ungodly men (for that just man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by what he saw and heard of their lawless acts), then [in light of the fact that all this is true, be sure that] the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trial, and how to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge in the corrupt passions of the sin nature, and despise authority. P resumptuous and reckless, self-willed and arrogant [creatures, despising the majesty of the Lord], they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties, whereas even angels who are superior in might and power do not bring a reviling (defaming) accusation against them before the Lord. But these [false teachers], like unreasoning animals, [mere] creatures of instinct, born to be captured and destroyed, reviling things they do not understand, will also perish in their own corruption [in their destroying they will be destroyed], suffering wrong [destined for punishment] as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a delight to revel in the daytime [living luxuriously]. They are stains and blemishes [on mankind], reveling in their deceptions even as they feast with you. They have eyes full of adultery, constantly looking for sin, enticing and luring away unstable souls. Having hearts trained in greed, [they are] children of a curse. Abandoning the straight road [that is, the right way to live], they have gone astray; they have followed the way of [the false teacher] Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the reward of wickedness; but he was rebuked for his own transgression: a mute donkey spoke with a man’s voice and restrained the prophet’s madness. These [false teachers] are springs without water and mists driven by a tempest, for whom is reserved the gloom of black darkness. For uttering arrogant words of vanity [pompous words disguised to sound scholarly or profound, but meaning nothing and containing no spiritual truth], they beguile and lure using lustful desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error. They promise them liberty, when they themselves are the slaves of depravity—for by whatever anyone is defeated and overcome, to that [person, thing, philosophy, or concept] he is continually enslaved. For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world by [personal] knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, their last condition has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them not to have [personally] known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to have turned back from the holy commandment [verbally] handed on to them. The thing spoken of in the true proverb has happened to them, “T he dog returns to his own vomit ,” and, “A sow is washed only to wallow [again] in the mire.”

I don't believe her even from the description of her lightening speed movement with Jesus. She made it sound like it was her first time experiencing a vision. What she described was an out of body experience and even witches do that.

From the revelations of genuine prophets who have seen Jesus describes a very peaceful and awesome feeling and not the urge to return to their body. Even the devil appears as an angel of light.

Please anything that is not in accordance of the word of God should be disregarded. The revelations given by the Holy Spirit is usually to glorify the name of God and not a man of God. Holy Spirit does not pin people down or hold them bound like she described how are her husband was pinned down. It's only a demon that does that.

Anyway for those who are seeking the truth please read your bible, pray and fast. Do not exhault any man of God. Every man of God is a servant of God and should deny himself.

Jesus and they even have a bazukka. Government is seeing all this videos and all their thinking is bringing these violent people all over Nigeria. Their plan will fail.

Imagine. A country that does not sponsor young inventors and innovators but is thinking about cow grazing and Islamisation. Please nigeria vote wisely. This is what happens when you don't. Now we are all suffering the consequences. No peace in Nigeria. God help us.

Isinweke:
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FULANI JIHADIST TRYING TO DISTRACT OUR ATTENTION.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CeMHeoejw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tWc8W_xUM4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6msiKwOjiLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6qPH0L5xcc

Solution remove sexual organs

I don't think so.. I think it's the social media who are openingly willing to attack rape victims. See what everybody has said about the allegation. When something is said, some illiterate people who don't understand English will interpret something else. Educated people too will carry the information like they can't think with their heads.

Antoeni:
From the Look of things It’s Like CAN,PFN,Timi & Busola are all Confused. Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo And Wife Seem to Be the Only Focus And Mature Persons here Since this Whole Rape Saga Started

Na wa o..so where did quote this law under section what. Every Nigerian has turned lawyer. Please you people should face your profession and stop acting film.

OLAADEGBU:
The minor in the case of Nigeria has to be under 10 years of age for him to be charged with statutory rape.

1. The church isn't a member of those Christian Bodies. The people who claim to support him are representatives of CAN from the north and not the general president. The president of CAN already said they are not registered with them. Obviously, he has settled those two in the north.

2. He never filed any defamation claim. Busola already filed at the police station in ikoyi last month. She has the support of the coalition of lawyers. However, the lawyers wrote an open letter to the DPO concerning some shady activities as they want to frustrate the case. It is online on all the newspapers.

People should realise that this pastor has money and influence. Because of the system we are in, victims always end up looking like liars. I pray the truth comes out but it is a very slight chance except with God's intervention

asuustrike1:
The following questions requires answers from whom it may concern.
1.COZA isn't recognized by CAN and PFN as alleged, how come a representative was seen in COZA to support them? Something doesn't add up.
2.How come it took the alleged victim some time to file suit after defamation of character?

Please ignore.. didn't you see his name? It's called Omo Oshodi for a reason. Don't argue with rascals please.

fresherdanU:
But when he threw the pple selling out of the house of GOD, I'm sure u read that part.
and when he was asked by pontus pilate,if he was truly the messiah, if u know what u are talking abt, u will remember that he wasnt silent.

while he was been crucified, he wasnt speechless either, he still said words of prayers.

atleast, he is not deaf not dumb, he shld say something. we are listening.

You are not a baby, u can air ur view without been rascal about about it.

Interesting, quoting a fake prophet. Anyway, from what I know Holy Spirit does not give revelation about adultery or rape. Instead what I know of my bible is the innocent are vindicated, the guilty will face punishment.


Because Nigerians fail to study but enjoy gist. Let me educate you. No individual takes anyone to court for rape or to file criminal proceedings. It is the work of the police and the ministry of justice to do that. Busola has filed a report and we are begging the police to take action. Because our police are corrupt it looks like nothing is happening.

OmoOshodi:
A renowned prophet of God said... Thus sayeth the Lord.. Dakolos' are working to pull the work of God down

Who are we to say No.... Holy Spirit is in control

Madam should go to court or keep quiet for ever..... They asked 3times when pastor fatoyinbo was doing his wedding

Because the criminal justice system does work the way you people watch movies. Busola has filed a case with the police. Your police have received bribe and are delaying matters.

Jwonder:
Hahaha Feminist are already crying on Twitter! How do you expect CAN to disown their own just because of an allegation without evidence, all those crying more than the berieved let me ask you one question, If a lady accuse your brother or father of rape without providing any evidence, will you Abandon him ?.
Btw it's over a month now, what's stopping the Dakolo's from taking the matter to court?
If you must reply me, put on your thinking cap, set aside emotions and reason like a human with Brain. THANK YOU.

You heard not that she told you.. please stop being bearers of false tales and let them deal with their issues

hisexcellency34:
I heard Bisola Dakolo has confessed that she actually dated Pastor Fat Oyinbo and that it wasn't rape. How true?

I swear I can't stop laughing.

Dantedasz:
I give up.....

Lol @ the long epistle. It's not my fault. I'm not the one who quoted Epicurus who by the way wrote over 300 books to convince people about his ideas. I just mentioned some points in one book.


WHY DOES AN OMNIPOTENT AND OMNISCIENT CREATOR GOD ALLOW EVIL TO EXIST?

God does not allow Evil to exist. He doesn't want to wipe out our existence. If you don't want evil to exist, then I think the whole world will be wiped out because you and I have done evil things at one point in our lives. There is no small or big evil. Thank you. Unless you have a basis for weighing evil.

Dantedasz:
Now this is why I try to avoid having discussions with Christians/religionists. A simple question of why an almighty omniscient and omnipotent creator God has refused to destroy evil which is his creation and you take me on a rigmarole of all the stories in a book of ancient goat herders?
This is why I prefer responding to Christians/religionists with animations/cartoons or meme's so I don't waste my brain cells. I don't want to keep slamming my head on a wall of irrationality.

Now for the last time the question is-WHY DOES AN OMNIPOTENT AND OMNISCIENT CREATOR GOD ALLOW EVIL TO EXIST?

Ok I have left the messenger for now as for the message.

Is God willing to prevent evil but not able?
First of all what is evil? It means profoundly immoral and wicked. Evil started from the very beginning from the sin of the first man. Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree because they were tempted. The devil was able to proof that man was not infallible and wanted to show to God that his precious humans are not as perfect as he is. That is why the devil is referred to as the accuser of man.

You see the tree gave us knowledge of both good and bad, evil and pure and almost made us like God himself. Now you see, we had free will. We could choose. To be fair, God sent not only man away from heaven but he also sent the devil too.

Time after time, he hoped man will redeem himself by making right decisions but here again Cain killed his brother Abel because of jealousy. Even though the bible makes reference to only one example but we all know that there were many things that piled up in Cain's mind to kill his brother. Sin did not stop there.

Did God try to prevent evil? Yes. He did when he cleansed the earth with water and left Noah but did that stop sin from happening No. This pained God because he wasn't happy to destroy what he had created and that was the very first time he made a vow never to destroy the earth with water ever again.

Next the Israelites after crying persistently for freedom got it but did they stop evil. No. Instead they carried the gods of their slave masters and were worshipping them even though they knew they were saved. Even with all the signs and wonders, did they change . No.

God then sent he son Jesus Christ. Jesus came to show them who God was because most people just like you then were wondering if God was real because they never saw him. Despite all the truth they saw. What did man do, they were afraid of his power, kings were scared of losing authority, temple leaders were scared too and what did they do? They killed him. This is just but a few examples of how God intervened in the life of man and this is in times past. Today, he still does, he sends men of God and religious leaders to the Government to counsel them, he speaks to the hearts and minds of men but just like the Israelites, we don't listen. If God were to smite every evil person in the world, we can would all be dead.

Now what is evil, if you thinking it only means to kill, then you're joking, even the smallest lie is evil, anything not good is evil.

So is God willing to prevent evil? Yes he is. Is man willing to stop evil? No

Is he able but not willing?

If he were to reason like you and I, by your definition of preventing evil, then I'm sure you know the answer. Because God is not malevolent, he gives us more than second chances to change. That is why the theif of today thinks they've gotten away until their chances run out. He is merciful and hopes that the heart of man will repent and choose the right way.

Is he both able and willing?

They said there is nothing impossible for God to do. But he sees beyond our own literal thoughts. We think of solutions today and do not anticipate the consequences. He sees beyond that. God works with results. He wants man to discover the truth, to learn from their wicked ways and retrace their steps. If you listen to his voice, you would know better to always follow the truth.

Whence cometh evil?

Evil does not come from God. It comes from the desires of the flesh. Man desires power, pleasure, lust, food and so much more and they are ready and willing to kill for it. All these things they seek are natural and our birth right but because of greed we are never content. How do you blame God for man's greed when he has given us all that we desire.

Why do we call him God?

He is God because he makes everything you see around you possible. Have you asked yourself where man came from, where the clouds come from, even the gases that scientists decieve themselves studying , were do they come from. Man can't even create an actual skin or flesh, we can't make even the sand on the ground. We don't know who constructed the womb of a woman and how it fertilizes eggs and forms a child. No man can create the seas, nor the wind nor the mountains, or the molten magma. No man can build a world in circle that will be able to hold thrillions of people in it. Think about it.. where did they all come from, the birds, animals, the creeping insects, the angels, the beasts. The nine planets, the bright sun that till today no human being can get close but yet who positioned the earth to get light from it during the day and the moon at night. So what else do you call a supernatural being which no one can see but people have testified to hearing his voice, that has done all of these things which no man, Philosopher can do? It is God.

No matter how much you believe in Philosophy, science and your inner self, you can never explain the wonders of this world. As for evil. It has an end. Read the Book of Revelations.

Dantedasz:
Leave the messenger. Address the message.