₦airaland Forum

Simple thing, release the authentic video.

Until then, Boko Haram video is true; applying the principle of fallibilism.

Mariory:
You're joking right. So no one should contest elections again once Igbos are benefitting? Because that would mean they hate Igbos.

Surely, you are joking right?

Really?

I guess it won't be a joke when Igbos choose to vote who they want in 2023.

Mariory:
Ok. So where is the Igbo hatred? You still haven't answered that question?

If someone is uncomfortable with what favours you, what do you call it?

hollah123:
this your persecution complex of "they hate us" is what is ruining u n your relationship with every other tribe in Nigeria

Are u the only tribe in Nigeria for crying out loud?

y always u

u people are too proud, arrogant, unnecessarily aggressive, n see no good in others.

u are the same people that hates northerners,yorubas n Niger Delta n u wonder y people don't like u.

u are having problems with virtually all the tribes in Nigeria.

Hausa man gave u quit notice
Yoruba man is tired of u
Rivers people don tire for your matter
cross river people are complaining
even India n south Africa isn't left out.

y is everyone having problem with u?

y do u find it hard to respect your host?

Our hosts feel threatened by our achievements.

But point of correction, we at not having issues with every tribe. We have issues with individual Igbo haters in whichever tribe.

We like Fayose.
We like Zulum.
We like Fashola because we admire his capacity.
We like Sanusi for his ability to speak truth to power.

We only hate bigots.

That Punch cartoonist is always notoriously accurate with his depictions.

Please NAF do us a Favour and release the authentic video.

If you can't, then don't blame us for taking BH video as true.

Castrated and spineless bigoted idiots.

From humble beginnings, Makinde is slowly toeing the line of infamy.

How dare he threaten the PDP?

Mariory:
Interesting...
Let us forget the fact that GEJ was/is PDP and Tinubu is APC (2 difderent political parties contesting against each other and other parties). Let us forget the fact that Tinubu's party (ACN) contested against PDP+GEJ in 2011 and lost. Finally, let us even assume that what you say is true.

My question to you is how in the name of all that is logical does that translate into hating Igbo? How?

They accused GEJ of appointing the first Igbo Chief of Army Staff since the war.

The SGF was Igbo.

The coordinating Minister of the economy was Igbo.

Then voom, Yorubas started crying marginalization.

lionshare:
Do you know the running mate of Bashir Tofa?

Pls google: Sylvester Ugoh

Can we agree that on the basis of personality of the candidates it’s logical that SE votes for their own?

Buhari ran for the presidency twice in 2003 and 2007 with an Igbo running mate.

Please can you remind me again who Igbos voted for in those two occasions?

tradepunter:
With all due respect this is a rubbish assertion...
Intelligence makes up bulk of any sought of security operations...

If you wanna find a needle in a haystack you cut the hay into segment and run the magnet each segment. That way you get the needle easily.

If Nigeria is serious there is a military grade satellite operated by the south Africa.... It covers the entire Africa continent cuz it's a medium earth orbit type.
We can rent a slot on it's transponders for our military operations.

What one can do is get an advanced IMSI catcher from Turkey ( mentioned turkey because are willing to deal with anyone and have no terms unlike USA, China and Russia)...

Satellite sucks up large thermal, electronic, imagery signals... Transmit to base, base relays to survilliance drones... Then acts as a gateway for IMSI catcher to pinpoint area with active radio signals..

The terrorist have same mindset as a soldier.. their long term engagement only refines their capacity and capabilities.

You can't be using your barehand to pick out the hay in order to find the needle.
That's what the intelligence divisions in the military and DIA are doing.

Human intelligence have failed for now in this war.. signals intelligence must be utilized to it's fullest capacity, not just for monitoring operations that are politically motivated.

Having large standing army is inefficient... An hellfire missile from a drone is designed to take out a company advancing in a closed formation.

I give it to you.

And I sincerely respect your knowledge of the modern technologies that can be deployed by the military in the fight against insurgency.

Several replies to my post pointed out the need for the military to deploy technology in its intelligence gathering and location of the enemy threats.

In the end it just further proves what we all know already, and that is govt's insincerity in the fight against these ills.

lionshare:
To assume that because MKO didn’t win the SE because he hates SE is totally flawed logic. Politics is all about interests, If SE thinks their interest is better protected by another party they’ll vote for who will protect their interests.

Let’s not argue facts! As far as Christianity is concerned in Nigeria SW holds the ace. I think you should be more worried that politician would rather focus on south south for votes during electioneering than south East..you know why?

So, what informed the SE's thinking that their interest would better be protected by another party?

You think it's the party's manifesto or the persons of the candidates?

Because you and I know that every decision and choice is informed by something, either real or imagined.

bakynes:
You are asking where is Christainity in the West? All the Major Churches in Nigeria today are domiciled in the SW. With some of the world recognized Prophet and Pastors from the SW. Early Christain missionaries started from Yorubaland before they moved to Efik land.
South Easterners may be homogenous Christians but in terms of Christainity, SW is way ahead of you.

Are you talking about your consters?

Your Daddy GOs?

The gods of men?

The charlatans who take from poor gullible people to buy private jets and build "stadia" of 50,000 capacity instead of building industries and factories?

Shouldn't you be ashamed of them?

Esseite:
You can't recruit any youth who is young and fit... they have life ambitions aswell..

Moreover if Govt recruits such massive workforce, the overheads would be terrible for the Govt to handle..

What overhead cost would be more than the lives we keep losing everyday and the hundreds of millions that these terrorists get paid for every kidnap?

And about recruitment, no one is making it mandatory. Only those who are willing.

heendrix:
With this you've said, you'd successfully end bandits only to increase diverse sect of crime n insecurity in the country by 80%

In South Korea, every young male who is up to 18 serves in the military for a year.

How criminal sects are in South Korea again?

Mikehot:
The thing is deploying 50,000 for security is just a smoke screen to slaughter southern youths who would particularly be making the bulk of that list and sent to the north (just like nysc) to go get killed by Bandits/Terrorists and Northerners who want to pass a statement


They would tell you they want integration, they would post their brothers here to subjugate you per street while they can kill your youths in their cities.

Northerners are more than able to end bandits/Boko Haram in the north if they want just like they can end Fulani herdsmen menance down south if they are for peace

There's no way a troop of terrorists numbering about 300 will slaughter a troop of soldiers numbering over 1,000.

Our soldiers get slaughtered because they are usually outnumbered and outfired.

owobokiri:
A prolific one at that..
If he's not shouting "Awon Okoros", he's asking "is Evans a herdsman"?
His wife was caught lamenting that the Igbos hate them..
Fashola his boy was caught lamenting that "some people fought and won the war and so those who won the war can't be by the side, while those who lost the war are enjoying"..
His heavy tax burden on igbo traders in Lagos nko?
How many markets destroyed by his boy boy governors now?
Baba oloja in igbo dominated markets..
Now, they're trying to use the vice president to corner the Trade fair mkt so Tinubu willl add to the burden of the hapless traders there..
Noticed how he went after Orji Kalu and Rochas Okorocha, even though they helped him out politically in the East during buharis campaigns?
No politically aware easterner should drop a single vote for that thing..

Don't mind them...

They think we don't notice.

We know that every "Awon Okoros" and every "Is Evans a herdsman" statement is a jab thrown at Igbos and we have always got the message.

Just like his stooge at Elegushi threatened Igbos with the Lagoon and they thought we didn't know that was Tinubu speaking through him.

Or is it MC Oluomo and his boys preventing Igbos from exercising their franchise in a general election and not a word of condemnation from Tinubu or anyone.

lionshare:
Your assertion about MKO is false in its totality. Also, the East may have a majority Christian population but everybody knows where Christian religion capital is in Nigeria.

If my assertion of Abiola false in it's totality, why did Igbos not vote for him in the 1993 election?

And about your implied suggestion of SW being capital of Christianity in Nigeria, I need to let you understand that does not count in any way.

That Ajayi Crowther influenced the building of first Cathedral in Abeokuta is not the issue, the question is, where is Christianity in the West today? Today, Muslims and Christians now take turn to be governors in Lagos, Osun and Oyo. Something you won't find in the East. Is that the capital you talk about?

Turkey is the home country of the Blessed Virgin Mary. But where are they today in Christian discourse?

Algeria is the home country of St Augustine of Hippo. But where is Algeria today in Christian calendar?

I am not a Tinubu fan but his suggestion of recruitment of 50,000 youths into the military was spot on. Even as I don't understand why some people criticized it.

If you asked me, I'd suggest the number be increased to 100,000.

Recruit any youth who is young and fit irrespective of qualification because those terrorists don't ask for 5 credits in WAEC before they recruit their fighters yet the so called "illiterates" keep giving our military bloodied nose at battlefield.

Deploy about 5,000 men into each of those flashpoint areas with moderate equipment and let me see how those bastards won't be overpowered.

When the war is won, absolve some into the civil service, draft others into reserve and let those who wish to continue a career in the military to continue.

This thing is not rocket science.

lionshare:
You’ve not answered my question....it’s a yes or no! Pls

Not every question is answered with a yes or no.

orisa37:
This is emotionally disturbing. The IGBOS are spoiling for some civil unrest and undue privileges..

OHANAEZE, please want your Tribe and tell them to stop writing me leading Stories.

Now they're fighting The Efiks in Calabar. The ESN are engaging The MILITARY everywhere in the SE. When The YORUBAS stand up as a group to hunt them, it won't be good. Let them stop rubbish write-ups

AWOLOWO DIDN'T HATE IGBOS.

MKO ABIOLA DIDN'T HATE IGBOS

OBASANJO DOESN'T HATE THE IGBOS.

THE OMODE OWAS OF AKURE DIDN'T HATE THE IGBOS.

I KNOW ALSO THAT TINUBU DOESN'T HATE THE IGBOS

THE IGBOS SHOULD WORK ON THEIR MANNERS AND CHARACTERS AND SHOW RESPECT TO WHOEVER THEY ENCOUNTER.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE MISBEHAVING IN CALABAR TO THE EFIKS AND THE ESN ARE ENGAGING THE MILITARY IN THE SE IN A DISGRACEFUL SHOW OF SHAME.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE IGBOS?

Nothing really concerns you with what is happening between Igbos and the Efiks in Calabar. It's a family matter that will be settled amicably.

You should concern yourself with how the Sarkin Fulani of Sasha is rated above the Baale of Sasha.

lionshare:
Let’s assume you’re right about Awolowo although I know you’re not. About MKO, I have a question for you; do you think the East is more pro-christian than the west??

The East is the only region that is homogeneously Christian. The West is considered a conquered territory in terms of religion because there will always be counter to Christian activities.

Look at MURIC.

You don't find such in the East.

That's why that Abiola statement was considered a direct attack on the East.

owobokiri:
I have asked myself this question a million times!
I mean Obasanjo is Yoruba and favoured the Yorubas immensely as a president! Made them chairmen of NNPC, GLO licence, Otedola them. Nicon insurance, Ottah industrial layout.. name it. They were in government and enjoyed it.

Enter Jonathan..., He's not even igbo and never treated the Igbos specially. Just that he wasn't going out of his way to instigate emberassing situations against the Igbos as is the case today. An igbo man became secretary to the government, and Army chief. All, for the first time since the end o the war and fiiiiiiiiiiaaaaaam, the Yoruba political elite went into overdrive!

Tinubu never rested! Changing alliances with any willing soul in sight all to unseat Jonathan. They claimed he was marginalising the south west, but how really? You refused to fix anybody for you position as the speaker of the house! Where you expecting to be made the president again immediately after Obasanjo?

He didn't immediately replace one or two Yoruba ministers,, but today the ministry of finance and FIRS have all been taken from you and given to Buharis brothers by Buhari and youare still clapping for him! Supporting him to the hilt.

It has made me to believe that at the moment, Yorubas interest in Nigerias politics is more about how they will subjugate the Igbos and not about how they will improve themselves! If there are no Igbos in the equation, Yorubas won't mind another northerner taking over from Buhari. But once it starts to look like an igbo might be favoured, you see them jumping out of their skins to lament and wail. It's evil..

Perfectly captured!

If Tinubu felt Mulikat Akande was not a worthy candidate to represent SW as speaker, why did they not prop up one of other Southwesterners as her replacement? Why support a northerner only to turn around and blame Jonathan.

Like you said, the truth is not that SW was marginalized, it was that there Igbos in the equation.

It's the preluding justification that Tinubu has an inherent hatred for Igbos and that hatred will destroy him.

One thing is that you cannot deceive the Igbos. We know who loves us and who hates us even if such pretends to show us love.

Tinubu is an Igbo hater!

ThumbzTNA:
The speaker seat was Zoned to the South West by the PDP. Tambuwal (a northerner) recriuted SW senators (loyal to Tinubu) and got the speaker seat for himself, thereby going against the arrangements of his party PDP. That move ensured that the Yoruba hadn't any person in the highest political offices in Nigeria.


Then he defected to APC when it was created

I know about this of course.

Only that Tambuwal did not recruit SW politicians, Tinubu instructed ACN senators then to vote for Tambuwal together with some dissenting Rep Members of the PDP from the North.

Do not put your eggs in one basket.

Let Nnamdi Kanu continue with his push for Biafra while our politicians push for the presidency.

Who says jack of all trade can't be master of all?

ThumbzTNA:
They know the game Tinubu and Tambuwal played with that Speaker seat.

Check out Nigeria's economic teams in different adminstrations since 1999. You'll notice that any administration that have done well have always had igbos spearheading key economic and technical departments. OBJ put Igbo in key economic postions. Yar'Adua and Goodluck too did it. Bcause the truth is igbo are better in this field. The records can prove it. The only administration not towing that path is Buhari and we've had 2 recessions to show for it.


No reasonable government will have a bonafide economist like NOI and not employ her time run its finances but settle for a microfinance bank teller like Adeosun

It's the hard truth they don't want to admit.

But what politics did Tinubu and Tambuwal play with the Speakership seat?

ThumbzTNA:
Tinubu's political ambition os dead on arrival. Tinubu is not liked or trusted by any region other region in Nigeria except SW

Even Southwest doesn't trust him.

At least not the whole of SW does.

ThumbzTNA:
For God's sake, Yoruba had just finished ruling Nigeria for 8 solid years through OBJ. If GEJ was favoring Igbo (which he wasn't), why is that supposed to be upsetting to Yoruba?

You are talking as if 2010-2015 is a long time ago.

Were you not here when they accused GEJ of not giving any major appointment to the Yorubas?

In their usual shying away from the truth, they forgot that PDP zoned House of Rep Speakership to SW but Tinubu teamed up with the North to deny Mulikat Akande the seat.

They play the ostrich instead of facing the truth.

Mariory:
Ah that's what it's about? You're still on that? Really?

Well the answer to that is simple. Tinubu wanted his party to be in power.

Yes, while that can be dismissed as politics which is understandable, one other reason Tinubu led SW against GEJ was because it was thought that GEJ's govt was favouring Igbos and u know it.

Mariory:
Forget the fact that Tinubu may be corrupt or not. I just have one simple question. How exactly is he riding on the back of Igbo hatred.

Why did Tinubu team up with Buhari to dislodge GEJ from power?

What ethnic group does Wike want to represent?

Since Independence, only one Yoruba man has succeeded in ruling Nigeria, and has done that twice, and that's Olusegun Obasanjo. First as a military Head of State between 1976 and 1979 and secondly as a democratically elected president between 1999 and 2007. But guess what, Obasanjo is ironically the only Yoruba leader who is not an Igbo hater. In fact, during his Presidency he worked with a lot of Igbo brains which helped his presidency succeed; from Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala to Charles Soludo to Oby Ezekwesili, et al.

Now let's mirror other Yoruba leaders who have even been more popular but thought the Igbo race were for the crushing how their dreams of ruling Nigeria turned.

OBAFEMI AWOLOWO

One of the Nationalists and champions of independence, Awolowo is famed for being the originator of ethnic politics in Nigeria when he prevented Nnamdi Azikiwe whose party, the NCNC, won majority at the Western House of Assembly, from becoming premier of Western Region purely on tribal and primordial sentiments.

Again during the Nigeria-Biafra civil war, Awolowo, who was Minister of Finance then, made hunger a weapon of war against the East which led to the malnourishment and death of over 1million Igbo children. And at the end of the war, it was Awolowo who sat over the policy that every Igbo be give 20 pounds irrespective of what he had in the bank.

There you have it. Awolowo thought he could ride to the presidency on the back of Igbo hatred and subservience to northern oligarchy but it all ended a pipe dream with some conspiracy theorists claiming he drank rat poison and died a shameful death.

MKO ABIOLA

Not much is in the press of Abiola's anti-Igbo sentiments but it has been claimed that Abiola once threatened to sink a ship freighting Bible into Nigeria; a direct attack at the East which is predominantly Christian.

His anti-Igbo sentiments may have been reason why Bashir Torfa seemed to have garnered more votes in the East than Abiola did.

Yes. Abiola "won" but never became president. And so was the end of the dream of another Yoruba Igbo hater.

Now, as 2023 draws near, another Yoruba leader, Tinubu, is positioning to take his chances at the country's top post, riding on the back of Igbo hatred and some of kinsmen and footsoldiers are cheering him on.

One of the greatest lessons of history is that it teaches us that men do not learn anything from history.

And so like Awolowo like MKO Abiola and so would be Ahmed Bola Tinubu since he has chosen to toe the line of infamy.

Penguin is a bird of reason!