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BlueAngel444:
There is a difference between God providing and men extorting with the name of God.

The thread is not about extortion but rather the fact that prophets must suffer lack and suffer pain. Where is the dominion christ died for.

Prophets never lacked . God provides for his own . Even when the whole nation lacked food. Raven brought meat for Man of God. An experience that is contrary to God's nature has to do with the individual not God. A prophet is a man of authority and power.


Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

The experience of our brother rather suits more for an intercessor but not a prophet.
Because an intercessor sometimes get afflicted for . I have ministered to many . And the dekon attacking them says " he's disturbing us with his prayers "

BlueAngel444:
lol like u said only true prophets understand what u are saying. I guess the fake lots have it easy don't they

The God that can't provide for his prophets is not worth being called God.

Read your Bible not human story. Human experience is subject to their knowledge and ignorance. It shouldnt be a standard for teaching. Like the saying goes " DONT PACK UP IN THE SAME PARKING LOT YOUR FATHERS PACKED UP"

kingxsamz:
Whoever still listens to this man is mentally deranged and needs to have his brain checked.
He thinks we've forgotten about his dumb conspiracy theories about 5g and how it'll be used to control humans like robots

You are doing a sarcastic and deliberate misquote as others do. Its the Billgate Vacine that will have ability to alter human DNA and RNA. The information is not hidden. Check online

and how FG imposed lockdown to install 5g masts, or how it's a tool of the imaginary anti-christ. .

But its true . They were they not laying 5G cables all over the world during lockdown? .

@ Petra1, come and carrry your 5g pastor

Let the truth be told

BlueAngel444:
Ya Prophets receive but not to the extent of the balaamic prophets

I don't get your point. I think its either yes or NO . Were prophets receiving .money and gifts in the bible days or they go hungry as our brother teaches.

genkins:
Classic ignorance

Explain pls

Catalambano:
Very nice project......

Hi

jesusjnr1:
What if God clearly tells you that the sick person is not going to be healed? Would you still go ahead to pray for him to be healed?

Definitely not. The will of God in such peculiar case is already revealed . When the miracle worker William Braham began to preach heresy, God sent people to warn him . God also told Kenneth Hagin that if the man doesn't stop teaching he will call him to heaven so that his soul will not be lost . Later the man had accident and died and healing ministers gathered to raise him back to life . Jesus appeared to Kenneth Hagin and reminded him he can't com back .

If you do, and the person doesn't get healed, would you say it's lack of faith or praying contrary to God's Will.

No we rather sick God face to know what was wrong. It can be several reason

I think there nothing wrong in praying that God's Will be done whatever situation, because it's not always the Will of God that someone is healed of his sickness, or maybe the time for the person's healing has not yet come.

I get your point . I also know that some people cannot get healed because of what they had done unless they repent praying for them will be waste of time . Thats why a minister must yield or be led of the spirit in ministrying to people in the course of misitrying to the sick or during pre ministry intercession God usually reveal how we should go about it or reveal the obstacles.

Remember what God told Paul when he had a thorn in his flesh. He said he prayed three times or so yet it didnt leave him because it was for a purpose, and unless that purpose was achieved, it would be Impossible for him to be cured.
So that's may be the situation with some who are sick

I agree But remember Paul prayed first to get rid of it. Before God answered him "No" with reason . It is said that God always answered. YES, NO or WAIT. but we have to pray in faith first until he stop us

Buliwyf:
This is the first time ever I will agree with anything you say.

Ha is my writing as Bad as that . Pls temper justice with mercy . Begin to see my post with neutral eye oh

GodHatesBigots:
You, Kanu played into Wike’s bloodletting hands with your inciting broadcast. It is moronic to provide your adversaries the right pretext cum decoy to hide under, to unleash mayhem on our people. This was exactly what you did, albeit unknowingly, with your ill-fated broadcast

Wise saying. The guy is really moronic. Hijacked honest sars protest in a way that almost turned into ethnic war.

I wonder why igbo Brothers still follow him. If he becomes Biafra president he will be worst than idi-amin the evil dictator

jesusjnr2020:
You made mention of different kinds of prayers but the bottom line is that all prayer should be according to the Will of God.

Yes all things must be asked according to God's will .

1 John 5:14
And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:.

But we mix two things up in christendom.

What do we mean by God's will in Prayer.
God's will is anything that is consistent with his plan for us according to God's word.

But when people say "your will be done"
It can be missapllied and it turns out to be a prayer that vague and not of faith .

For example someone is sick . The will of God is already revealed that we pray for sick to be healed . But when the prayer goes " FATHER LET YOU WILL BE DONE IN HIS SICKNESS" In other words if its your will for him to be healed let him be healed and if its your will for him to die let him die . That is where the issue of "WILL" is misused. Such prayer lack faith and lack authority and power .

jesusjnr2020:
So the long and short of this your post is that it's right to tell God, "You must do this"?

That's a little extreme . You cant command God .But you can demand your desire.
There are different kinds of prayers and there are different approaches to each one . There a prayer of demand, there is a prayer of submission, there is a prayer of petition, where you present your case with reason as a lawyer . Different situation have required approach

Secondly, why didn't God answer her prayer?

Its a faith work. Winner has not been declared until tribunal is over . CNN declaration is not official

jesusjnr2020:
I saw a thread about a lady who when praying said "God must make Trump win", and I was utterly flabbergasted.

What could give someone the audacity to feel she could dictate to God what He must do and not do?

Unfortunately that's the sad reality of what Christianity has become today. Most Christians don't really know how to pray, because they do not follow the example of Jesus, but those of men who have taught them to pray according to their own will and the inclinations of their flesh.

Yet they wonder why most of their prayers were not being answered by God?

I believe His example is what Christians

There are different kinds of prayers for different purposes.

Praying for the will of God has its place . But not for a situation when you already know the will . I can't say " if its the will of God let my Father get born again" I already know the will of God is for every man to be saved.


When you have 2 options before you and one is for, while the other is against your values, you don't need to pray thy will be done. You pray the evil away.

When Peter was arrested the church diddint say " if it is the will of God let him be delivered " they know the will, they intercede for his deliverance and God brought him from prison.

Paul didn't tell the saints to rely on God's will while he was in prison. He asked them to pray for his deliverance.

Rom 15:30 — Rom 15:31
Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me; That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints;

Philemon 1:22
One more thing—please prepare a guest room for me, for I am hoping that God will answer your prayers and let me return to you soon.

The reason Jesus prayers were always answered was because He always prayed according to the Will of God. Even when His will concerning His life differed from that of God, He prayed and said, "Not My will, but that Thine be done". Luke 22:42

Not so, Jesus didn't say thy will be done when he commanded Lazarus to rise

He didn't say "Thy will be done " when he said give us this day our daily bread. Or when he said "Deliver us from Bidden evil.

So in application to American election. One candidate uphold christian values while the other uphold Gayy, Abortion satanism etc its like choosing between king Ahab and king David .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-vJ69slYJc

Vaiki:
Please pardon my manners..who are you in the scheme of things? I really hate unintelligent distractions when I'm set on exposing a criminal.

What's the crime

Vaiki:
. Accept my genuine challenge or keep basking in the euphoria of a dead belief.
Yours
Vaiki.

What's the challenge about nah. If you want a debate . Chose a topic then the other guy can consider to accept.

You came chanting fake fake accept my challenge. If you topic is " there is no God" at least there is a direction

OpenYourEyes1:
I guess you mean demons(not humans) can occupy the bodies of animals?
Witches could however train animals to do their evil works.

Of course its demonic work. Through the spirit of witchcraft. Also witches at certain levels can project themselves into wind or animal. They can even teleport to another location

Nuttella:
Do you have beef with prophets or what? Everyone is not a prophet, according to saint paul In 1 corinthians 12;28, some born again are apostles, some evangelists, some teachers, some healers, some administrators, and each have their own role in the church, each have their own spiritual gifts,

Correct word!

1Co 12:29 — 1Co 12:30
Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

Trump was ordained to have two terms


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Pm0EtLwfA

Trump was prophesied to have two terms as far back as 2001 before he even nurture the idea of being president


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Pm0EtLwfA

Truvel:
It's A Personal Experience. & I Av Seen Dat Happen In D Lives Of Others Who Had Dis Call. D Books I Read Explained Dsame.

But What about many who didn't. Personal experience should not be a law.
It has nothing to do with prophets. There is persecution for every call. I know the saying "PROPHETS WALK ALONE" a prophet may not associate with crowd as others by the virtue of the demand on his call. He need to fast often to sharpen his vision and hear from heaven . But not all these issues of lack and co. If there is an office that revive money the most it is the office of a prophet. The richest ministers today are prophets . Because people give to prophets right from bible days

1Sa 9:6 — 1Sa 9:9
And he said unto him, Behold now, there is in this city a man of God, and he is an honourable man; all that he saith cometh surely to pass: now let us go thither; peradventure he can shew us our way that we should go. Then said Saul to his servant, But, behold, if we go, what shall we bring the man? for the bread is spent in our vessels, and there is not a present to bring to the man of God: what have we? And the servant answered Saul again, and said, Behold, I have here at hand the fourth part of a shekel of silver: that will I give to the man of God, to tell us our way. (Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)

Truvel:
It's Not Abt What I Think. It's D Process Every Prophet Of God Must Pass Tru. Every Prophet Of God Has To Pass Tru Dis Fire B4 He Or She Can Become A Golden Vessel Or A Vessel Unto Honour.

Where did you get the information from

Missyajoke:
I don't understand all what this argument is for @truvel? Are you for God or what why are you complaining. I .

He didn't say he's a prophet. He said he has a message for prophet.

Truvel:
Petra1, Dis Suffering Is Specially Meant 4 D Prophets Not 4 All Christians. God Gave D Prophet Power & Authority Over Nations & Over Kingdoms, To Root Out, & To Pull Down, & To Destroy & To Throw Down, To Build & To Plant Jeremiah 1:10 It Was Dsame Power Elijah Used To Lock Heaven Dat It Shouldn't Rain. So As A Prophet, Do U Think God Would Just Give U Dis Power So Dat U Can Use It Anyhow As U Wish? 2ndly, As A Prophet Any Word Spoken Carelessly Would Av Negative Effects In D Lives Of D Children Of God. 4 God To Entrust U With Dis Power, God Has To Put D Prophets Tru Dis Tough Process To Eradicate Any Single Trace Of D Works Of D Flesh B4 He Can Entrust U With His Power & Authority. Dis Process Is Called Prophetic Preparation. Dis Experience Is Not A Funny One. It Is Real Tough.

Can i ask you a question?
Why do you think so ?

Its not over until its over nah

Nuttella:
Okay mention me when you remember.

I have the book you can send me your whatsapp number. You can also reach the other guy on +231 88 064 4446

Truvel:
Like I Said B4 It Won't Make Any sense To U Guys, Yes. 1. Dis Msg Is Meant 4 Doze Called To It. 2. I Wrote Dis So Dat When Dis Guys Start Experiencing Dis Things Dey Shouldn't Be Surprise. Dis Msg Is Not 4 Everyone But 4 Dis Guys.

I said you are wrong . You message cannot be contrary to the bible . You cant be preaching lack to Gods people and call it a mesage . Some so called prophets have mental case and they believe their lack is from God. I have met some individuals who think they have a call . They make every wrong decisions and would not yield to counsel. They lack food no job, they are not submitted to any spiritual authority. They are nuisance in the family . They never finish school . They think its God . They have mental case . Or demonic attack. So pls if you cant back up your so called suffering message. You can belive it for yourself but don't project or suggest it into the spirit of others

Truvel:
U May Start Experience Troubles Everywhere, Even Within Ur Family Circle. Things Would Start Going Bad 4 U Of Which U Don't Understand Or Unable To Explain. Doze Who Loves U Would Just To Ur Enemy Etc.

This is a different thing. If anyone experience all these . It's not because of the call of God. He has what is pursuing him . Its not for everybody. Christian challenges are for a short time . Whe issues prolong check yourself

Truvel:
I Would Advise U Read D Pdf Prophetic Preparation By Les Crause 4 A Clearer Understanding. There Is A Guy In Nairaland In Dat Has D Pdf. Read It.

It is not a scriptural thing to be suffering. The only thing a Christian should suffer is persecution . But when it comes to issue of suffering from the enemy or poverty i think you're wrong .
God provide for his own and God protects his own .



[b]Luke 10:4
Carry neither purse . . . for the labourer is worthy of his hire.

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Nuttella:
I understand that being a prophet is not an easy road but I think you are exaggerating the suffering we will suffer. God is there to protect his prophets, we .

You are very correct jare

MrPRevailer:
Watch this video by this prophet.

Okay

MrPRevailer:
@Petra1 what I want to know, did he prophesy that Trump will be reelected?

Well I suppose so ,we are putting the jigsaw together. He prophesied abkut Trump without knowing its the name of a person . before Trump decided to run for office ,before Trump became President. He mentioned the party , he mentioned failed imprleachment , he also mentioned supreme court . So that's where I'm supposing refers to re-election personally

OpenYourEyes1:
Human witches can turn to animals?
Can you prove this?

Thats not what I said. They can use occupy bodies of animals

These prophecies were given years ago before Trump ever thought to be President.
The prophet sadly died before Trump became President. He didn't see it come to Pass

These Peophecies were given between
2007 and 2014. It talks about Republican winning election . He talked about the imprleachment of Trump . Etc . Years ahead


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w8Mr0kylwc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6niv0FN6iE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Pm0EtLwfA