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Christianity Etc › Re: Do GOD's prophets ever teach/prophesies lies? by petra1(m): 9:31am On Oct 14, 2020
OpenYourEyes3:
Not possible... especially if they are really filled with the Holy Spirit or are Matured believers who constantly live in holiness.
Genuine prophets can miss it.

1 Corinthians 14:29
And let the prophets give their words, but not more than two or three, and let the others be judges of what they say.
Christianity Etc › Re: Creepy Africa Pastor Violate Female Members On Camera by petra1(m):
Maybe his Dad was a herbalist

2 Peter 2:2
. . . Many will follow their unrestrained ways, and the way of truth will be blasphemed because of them... . .
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by petra1(m): 5:14am On Oct 12, 2020
grin
Crime › Re: Do People Still Fall For This Kind Of Scam? by petra1(m): 6:17pm On Oct 11, 2020
They just tried scaming me now. Giving me same scam prophecy on my YouTube channel asking me to send seed to an orphanage.
Christianity Etc › Re: Should A Believer Join Any Protest, Demonstrate, Carry Placards? by petra1(m): 9:22pm On Oct 10, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Wherever they refuse to receive you,
as you leave that town shake off the very dust from your feet as a protest against them.
"
- Luke 9:5

Dare I ask, whose name is associated with Luke 9:5 above there, hmm?
There's difference between civic actions and Gospel responsibility.
Christianity Etc › Re: Should A Believer Join Any Protest, Demonstrate, Carry Placards? by petra1(m): 9:11pm On Oct 10, 2020
AududuNine11:
Should a believer join any PROTEST, DEMONSTRATE, CARRY PLACARDS?

Here's my view as a believer regarding PROTEST/DEMONSTRATION - peaceful or not peaceful, SARS related or not:

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
1 Corinthians 10:23 KJV
Its a personal civic thing. But not in the name of Christ or Christianity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Solved The Mystery Of Dan 9:26 by petra1(op): 11:49am On Oct 10, 2020
Ken4Christ:
All the prophecies of Daniel is interrupted by the church age. Until God is through with the Church, none of those prophecies will be fulfilled.
Don't the church age have its own timeline?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Solved The Mystery Of Dan 9:26 by petra1(op): 6:51am On Oct 10, 2020
Image123:
Oga Jo, you no even quote the verse for neophytes like us, na wa oh. The colour of pastor Chris suit in the video is different from the one in the picture na, is it a different message?
Anyway, the verse is not new na. No new discovery here, it's in commentaries already.

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Pls listen to it . The dates have not tally by many commentaries . Its a 5 day teaching.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Gives Explosive Insights Into Current World Events by petra1(m): 6:48am On Oct 10, 2020
Image123:
Hehehe, explosive insights indeed. He forgot to tell you Trump would test positive. Paitorrrrrr.
See what a whole pastor gather church members to be hearing? Jesus grieved.
Anyway senior prophet did his own four years ago, so maybe it's time for junior prophet to try his luck. But i dey so embarrassed for pastor Chris sha. He should preach about Jesus, not all these TV show talks and conjectures that saves no fly.
Don't judge a book by the cover. If you had listen to the teaching you will have different opinion and you will also see that its all about Jesus.
Christianity Etc › Pastor Chris Is Live : Final Phase by petra1(op): 8:13pm On Oct 09, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Gives Explosive Insights Into Current World Events by petra1(m): 7:28pm On Oct 09, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Peter, Paul And The Apostles Not Rich In Bible Days? by petra1(m): 9:06am On Oct 09, 2020
elated177:
Mtcheeeew!
You too Mtcheeeew! X2 cool
Christianity Etc › Pastor Chris Solved The Mystery Of Dan 9:26 by petra1(op): 6:24am On Oct 09, 2020
Calculating the years from the beginning of creation. Its revealed There is a pattern in Gods plan every 2000 years . Just as matthew talk about the pattern after every 14 generation.

Matthew 1:17
So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.


If you understand the pattern from the past to present ,you can understand the pattern from the present to the future the exact date of first advent of christ was predicted mysteriously in Daniel 9:26 but many scholars of the bible got hooked over the years. Listen the the teaching and see how the mystery is solved .

Daniel 9:26
 . . .After this period of 434 years, the Anointed One will be killed, his kingdom still unrealized . . . and a king will arise whose armies will destroy the city and the Temple. They will be overwhelmed as with a flood, and war and its miseries are decreed from that time to the very end. .
.


Preaching starts 44 mins into the video . You may want to fast forward


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14zNHlVj7Oo

Christianity Etc › Re: Enoch Walked With God And He Died by petra1(m):
MuttleyLaff:
"By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death;
and he was not found because god took him up;
for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God.
"
- Hebrews 11:5

"And no man has gone up to Heaven except He who went down from Heaven: The Son of Man - He who is in Heaven.
(i.e. No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man
"
- John 3:13

petra1, have you at all 2 Timothy 2:15 considered the following:
1/ What particular death in Hebrews 11:5 is being referred to that Enoch did not die from?
2/ How do you harmonise and interpret, the polysemous phrase, lmso, "taken away" in:

"Enoch walked with God,
and then he was no more, because God had taken him away
".
- Genesis 5:24

with

"The righteous man perishes, (i.e. dies) and no man takes it to heart;
And devout men are taken away,
while no one understands. For the righteous man is taken away from evil
"
- Isaiah 57:1

3/ What interesting and noteworthy evil, to come, was Enoch in Genesis 5:24, taken away from? (i.e. What evil to come was it, that caused him to prematurely die so as not for him to partake in it or experience that unarguable evil to come, lmso)

4/ How do you harmonise and interpret, Genesis 5:24 and Hebrews 11:5 in conjunction with John 3:13 above, and without running the risk of scripture sounding contradictory or looking at variance with each other, lmso, hmm?
cc: Darnley, MaxInDHouse, Blabbermouth, Dtruthspeaker, johnw47,
Take the bible for what it says. Enoch was taken up without dying just as elijah. The book of jasher stated that Enoch was taken by chariot of fire.

If the bible says enoch and Elijah did not die

and they were taken up alive. Its wisdom for you to leave it that way
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Peter, Paul And The Apostles Not Rich In Bible Days? by petra1(m): 11:26pm On Oct 08, 2020
elated177:
You mean whatever that will help you dodge the fact?
Whats the facts again. I thought The facts have been addressed by my illustrations
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Loveworld: Pastor Chris Talks About 5G And Vaccine today by petra1(op):
Since yesterday Pastor Chris has cleared some difficult passages such as the mystery of Dan 9:26 which has been veey difficult for many bibe scholars to interpret
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Loveworld: Pastor Chris Talks About 5G And Vaccine today by petra1(op): 11:21pm On Oct 08, 2020
doggedfighter:
Why should a man be bold enough to speak on matters that are beyond him? undecided

Is this respect or foolery?
Don't judge a book by the cover. Listen first then response..im.sure your response won't be your initial opinion .
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Peter, Paul And The Apostles Not Rich In Bible Days? by petra1(m): 8:35pm On Oct 08, 2020
elated177:
Lol! He has dragged marriage into it, kwa!
What ever will cause the message to be driven in nah
Christianity Etc › Re: Enoch Walked With God And He Died by petra1(m): 8:34pm On Oct 08, 2020
Darnley:
At the time Jesus was making this statement,He has not bodily ascended to heaven nor did he descend bodily.When He said "no man" or "no one" he mean no man.We have see Angel descended and ascended to heaven in scripture.Yet Jesus said no man.That is to say,he was particular about man and not spirit being.As for man,no one but for Jesus and other heavenly being yes.Jesus said before Abraham I was
I agree with you but I don't know if you agree with me
Christianity Etc › Your Loveworld: Pastor Chris Talks About 5G And Vaccine today by petra1(op): 8:32pm On Oct 08, 2020
You may have to fastorward or rewind . Depends on what time you start watching


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14zNHlVj7Oo
Christianity Etc › Re: Enoch Walked With God And He Died by petra1(m): 7:05am On Oct 08, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
According to the scriptures God will take the first set of humans to heaven after Jesus' sacrifice to reconcile man back to God has been granted!
Would you mind sharing those scriptures with us
Christianity Etc › Re: Enoch Walked With God And He Died by petra1(m): 6:49am On Oct 08, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
So some humans have been taken to heaven before God sealed the 144,000 who became his children through faith in Christ Jesus? undecided
Its a future prophecy during coming tribulation. Its ywt to take place
Christianity Etc › Re: Enoch Walked With God And He Died by petra1(m): 6:38am On Oct 08, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Please correlate the highlighted with Jesus' word @John 3:13
Ascension is different from "being taken " secondly in context Jesus was talking about People living on earth. Like "None of you here has gone to visit heaven before" so you can't talk about heaven like me who came from heaven .

Jn 3:12 — Jn 3:13
If I have told you of things that happen right here on the earth and yet none of you believes Me, how can you believe (trust Me, adhere to Me, rely on Me) if I tell you of heavenly things?
And yet no one has ever gone up to heaven, but there is One Who has come down from heaven—the Son of Man [Himself],Who is (dwells, has His home) in heaven.



Living bible makes it clearer


John 3:13
No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heavenJohn 3:13
No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven.
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Enoch Walked With God And He Died by petra1(m): 6:23am On Oct 08, 2020
Hebrews 11:5
It was by faith that Enoch was taken up to heaven without dying—“he disappeared, because God took him.” For before he was taken up, he was known as a person who pleased God
Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Kukah Spells Out Why We Failed As A Nation by petra1(m): 5:45am On Oct 08, 2020
okoloemmalex:
It's time to END NIGERIA so that people who want development can go ahead.

〰️ Bishop kukah

I have never been as unsure of Nigeria future as I am now………BISHOP MATTHEW HASSAN KUKAH

After independence, in order to build a great nation, each country went to work. But in Nigeria, after independence, our people went to pray and fast.

So, while we were praying, Malaysia came here and took our palm seedlings and build a great factory of it.

While we were praying, Singapore went into investment in technology.

While we were praying, India went into ICT.

While we were praying, China went to massive industrialization.

While we were shouting Allah Alakuba! UAE went into massive infrastructural development.

While we were binding and casting Lucifer, Japan went into technological development.

While we were speaking in tongues, Denmark went into education of her citizens.

While we were mounting big speakers in our places of worship, USA was mounting man on the moon.

After our prayers, God, being a wise God decided to reward us according to our labour.

Since those that went into industrialization, technology, infrastructural development, ICT, education etc had been rewarded accordingly. It’s only wise God rewards us with our efforts in prayers.

That’s why today, Nigerian pastors are competing in building the biggest churches. That’s why there are more prayer houses and worship places than hospitals and schools. That’s why people rush to prayer houses for medical and business solutions instead of hospitals.
That’s why we don’t do business proposals before jumping into business since we are going to back it up with prayers. And when such collapse, we blame devil.

That’s why it’s a sin to say anything negative about pastors and imams.

That’s why our pastors don’t consider the opinion of engineers while building and blame devil when the building collapsed.

That’s why faith in God replaces building pillars and when it collapsed we blame it on Lucifer.

That’s why our pastors are making sure they plant church branches instead of schools in every street in Nigeria.

That’s why we always wait for God to do that which ability to accomplish He has already handed over to us.

That’s why we want our teachers to labour on earth and come to heaven for their rewards.

Nigeria is a prayer loving, God fearing nation. Religion has taken the place of technology, infrastructure, education and all.

When we are traveling, we ignore all the necessary road requirements, servicing of our vehicles and pray. And, once we pray, we can put a half fit vehicle on the road and blame our step mother or mother in law if anything goes wrong.

That’s why there are more people dying on our roads than wild life animals in the wilderness.

Because, we pray and fast and leave everything to God when God has given us all we need to survive and build a nation…….God help us.

Do you agree with him?[b]It's time to END NIGERIA so that people who want development can go ahead.

〰️ Bishop kukah

I have never been as unsure of Nigeria future as I am now………BISHOP MATTHEW HASSAN KUKAH

After independence, in order to build a great nation, each country went to work. But in Nigeria, after independence, our people went to pray and fast.

So, while we were praying, Malaysia came here and took our palm seedlings and build a great factory of it.

While we were praying, Singapore went into investment in technology.

While we were praying, India went into ICT.

While we were praying, China went to massive industrialization.

While we were shouting Allah Alakuba! UAE went into massive infrastructural development.

While we were binding and casting Lucifer, Japan went into technological development.

While we were speaking in tongues, Denmark went into education of her citizens.

While we were mounting big speakers in our places of worship, USA was mounting man on the moon.

After our prayers, God, being a wise God decided to reward us according to our labour.

Since those that went into industrialization, technology, infrastructural development, ICT, education etc had been rewarded accordingly. It’s only wise God rewards us with our efforts in prayers.

That’s why today, Nigerian pastors are competing in building the biggest churches. That’s why there are more prayer houses and worship places than hospitals and schools. That’s why people rush to prayer houses for medical and business solutions instead of hospitals.
That’s why we don’t do business proposals before jumping into business since we are going to back it up with prayers. And when such collapse, we blame devil.

That’s why it’s a sin to say anything negative about pastors and imams.

That’s why our pastors don’t consider the opinion of engineers while building and blame devil when the building collapsed.

That’s why faith in God replaces building pillars and when it collapsed we blame it on Lucifer.

That’s why our pastors are making sure they plant church branches instead of schools in every street in Nigeria.

That’s why we always wait for God to do that which ability to accomplish He has already handed over to us.

That’s why we want our teachers to labour on earth and come to heaven for their rewards.

Nigeria is a prayer loving, God fearing nation. Religion has taken the place of technology, infrastructure, education and all.

When we are traveling, we ignore all the necessary road requirements, servicing of our vehicles and pray. And, once we pray, we can put a half fit vehicle on the road and blame our step mother or mother in law if anything goes wrong.

That’s why there are more people dying on our roads than wild life animals in the wilderness.

Because, we pray and fast and leave everything to God when God has given us all we need to survive and build a nation…….God help us.

Do you agree with him?[/b]It's time to END NIGERIA so that people who want development can go ahead.

〰️ Bishop kukah

I have never been as unsure of Nigeria future as I am now………BISHOP MATTHEW HASSAN KUKAH

After independence, in order to build a great nation, each country went to work. But in Nigeria, after independence, our people went to pray and fast.

So, while we were praying, Malaysia came here and took our palm seedlings and build a great factory of it.

While we were praying, Singapore went into investment in technology.

While we were praying, India went into ICT.

While we were praying, China went to massive industrialization.

While we were shouting Allah Alakuba! UAE went into massive infrastructural development.

While we were binding and casting Lucifer, Japan went into technological development.

While we were speaking in tongues, Denmark went into education of her citizens.

While we were mounting big speakers in our places of worship, USA was mounting man on the moon.

After our prayers, God, being a wise God decided to reward us according to our labour.

Since those that went into industrialization, technology, infrastructural development, ICT, education etc had been rewarded accordingly. It’s only wise God rewards us with our efforts in prayers.

That’s why today, Nigerian pastors are competing in building the biggest churches. That’s why there are more prayer houses and worship places than hospitals and schools. That’s why people rush to prayer houses for medical and business solutions instead of hospitals.
That’s why we don’t do business proposals before jumping into business since we are going to back it up with prayers. And when such collapse, we blame devil.

That’s why it’s a sin to say anything negative about pastors and imams.

That’s why our pastors don’t consider the opinion of engineers while building and blame devil when the building collapsed.

That’s why faith in God replaces building pillars and when it collapsed we blame it on Lucifer.

That’s why our pastors are making sure they plant church branches instead of schools in every street in Nigeria.

That’s why we always wait for God to do that which ability to accomplish He has already handed over to us.

That’s why we want our teachers to labour on earth and come to heaven for their rewards.

Nigeria is a prayer loving, God fearing nation. Religion has taken the place of technology, infrastructure, education and all.

When we are traveling, we ignore all the necessary road requirements, servicing of our vehicles and pray. And, once we pray, we can put a half fit vehicle on the road and blame our step mother or mother in law if anything goes wrong.

That’s why there are more people dying on our roads than wild life animals in the wilderness.

Because, we pray and fast and leave everything to God when God has given us all we need to survive and build a nation…….God help us.

Do you agree with him?
Why criticizing prayer? Address National issue if you want to . But never criticise prayer
Christianity Etc › Re: Enoch Walked With God And He Died by petra1(m):
Darnley:
In Genesis 5:22-24,
the bible say" And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.This statement has been misinterpreted to mean that Enoch did not died and was taken to heaven.
Nairaland,I need your opinion for or against
He was the first man to be raptured alive to heaven . He did not die

Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Hebrews 11:5
Because of faith Enoch was caught up and transferred to heaven, so that he did not have a glimpse of death; and he was not found, because God had translated him. For even before he was taken to heaven, he received testimony [still on record] that he had pleased and been satisfactory to God
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Peter, Paul And The Apostles Not Rich In Bible Days? by petra1(m): 3:32am On Oct 08, 2020
elated177:
Dude, I neither know what you are talking about nor do you know what you are on about. What did natural or unnatural death have to with their wealth or lack of it during their lifetimes?
Its an example for you that you dont judge on man by another man life-style. The apostles had their cross based on their specific assignment. If Paul did not marry based on his assignment you shouldn't judge those who marry. If some lived a life of sacrifice to comfort you dhouod not judge those who live in comfort. Every man answer to his maker. So you can read my post again agsin with this explanation
Christianity Etc › Re: Christans You're Needed ASAP by petra1(m): 8:50pm On Oct 07, 2020
delkuf:
See, there is no experiential knowledge. As long as you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and accept him, you have the authority to cast out demon.
Same way you have the authority to heal the sick ,raise the dead and work miracles

Mark 16:18
. . . . they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

1Co 12:29 — 1Co 12:30
? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?


What do you say about christians who have tried to cast demon out yet no response nor result . Until the take case to a minister or a more experienced person and he cast it out ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Peter, Paul And The Apostles Not Rich In Bible Days? by petra1(m):
Truvel:
They Were Rich. Why? They Didn't Lack Anything. Jesus Himself Asked Them? Lackest Thou Anything? They Said No. So, It's Obvious That They Were Rich & Even According To D Book Of Acts, People Brought Money At Their Feet, Some Even Sold Their Lands Or Properties & Brought D Money At Their Feet It Out Too. They Had More Than Enough. The Were Also Favoured By People. God Gave Them Favour. Read Acts Chater4 & 5.
They didn't live in opulence , they humbled themselves. But its according to their assignments. They worked with the principle of contentment.

1Ti 6:6 — 1Ti 6:9
But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

2Co 6:4 — 2Co 6:10
But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings; By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true; As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed; As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christans You're Needed ASAP by petra1(m):
delkuf:
What do you mean by someone who knows how to cast demons out. What are we in Christ.
Is it every Christian who cast demons out.?
There are experiential knowledge and trainings to minister to God's people .

Provision is made for christians to manifest God but we all function at different level of grace and authority .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Peter, Paul And The Apostles Not Rich In Bible Days? by petra1(m): 8:20pm On Oct 07, 2020
elated177:
Will the Messiah (Christ) give any of his servants today a different "mandate" from the one he gave the Apostles? Why did you drag death into this?
John 21:19
Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, “Follow me!”[

1Co 4:9 — 1Co 4:11
For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings. We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless.



They were not allow to have natural death. Question now is why dont you demand for death of every minister. If we must compare every minister to yhe example of the apostles on every way ,then no pastor should die by natural death . Every pastor must be killed
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Peter, Paul And The Apostles Not Rich In Bible Days? by petra1(m): 8:53pm On Oct 06, 2020
fanenene:
If God gave us all we need for Godly life through the death and resurrection of jesus why was Peter or Paul not rich? Philippians 4:19 and 2conrithians 8:9

CAN I GET AN ANSWER.
Its a choice. They also had their mandate from christ. For example none of them was ordained to die natural death. That doesnt mean same thing must apply to everyone else. Every man should stay in his assignment

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