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Christianity Etc › Re: Tell Any Devil I Said This Lock Down Is A Game – Bishop David Oyedepo by petra1(m): 7:41am On Jul 10, 2020
LordReed:
Abeg stop exaggerating. I have been to the hospital 3 times since lockdown and nobody suggested once that my ailments were due to Covid 19.
Not all Some hospital have conscience
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Excommunicates Pastor Who Was Caught Trying To Sleep With Member's Wife by petra1(m): 5:53pm On Jul 09, 2020
The woman didn’t do well . I hope it’s not a set up .
She should have reported him to Church authority or let her husband ho and warn him . But the best thing is church authority .

As much as I know that some men have misrepresented the Pastoral office . The there had also been case of satanic set up by women .

There had been cases of Pastors complaining of certain women begging to have a Pastor . I’m not talking of singles. I’ve seen about 3 cases of such with messages sent to the pastor Disturbing him regularly . Asking for even if it’s just Only once She won’t disturb him again .

The Pastor counseled her tire.He is not the blunt type so He couldn’t Rebuke her and walk her out . But he said he knows that Satan is setting him up.
The ones that fell into the sin . I pray they recover themselves . We have predators who have masqueraded themselves as shepherd and we have real shepherd who fell
Health › Re: How Come There Was No Lockdown For Ebola Which Was Deadlier? by petra1(op): 5:40pm On Jul 09, 2020
Faithful4real:
WHO said covid 19 is not airborne.
Some stories in that direction are surfacing . Even about deliberate spread
Christianity Etc › Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(op): 5:38pm On Jul 09, 2020
Maximus69:
Pray to God so that you can be infected . . .Once you've been confirmed as a patient you'll have direct access to other patients, then you can perform your miracles there Sir! cheesy
Why should I be infected ? We heal .
Christianity Etc › Re: Tell Any Devil I Said This Lock Down Is A Game – Bishop David Oyedepo by petra1(m): 5:21pm On Jul 09, 2020
ObaKlaz:
the government of Tanzania is even being accused of underreporting the virus' spread.

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So to say the truth is “under reporting”

While Nigeria is over reporting 100 times over . Nobody dies of heart attack or cancer anymore . Every death is now Covid 19 .Without autopsy oh !
Every ailment is Covid 19 . Even those who are not sick , if you mistakenly escort person to hospital you are Covid positive . And yet we are shorting down our economy , faith worship , education down over lie and propaganda
Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 5:11pm On Jul 09, 2020
BluntTheApostle:
Don't you think that refusing vaccination is an irresponsible faith?
I think believing in vaccine than the word of God is irresponsible faith .

2 Chronicles 16:12
And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.

Jeremiah 17:5
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Psalms 20:7
Some trust in chariots, and some in horses:
but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am Ready To Pray For Covid-19 Patients In Isolation Centres – TB Joshua by petra1(m): 3:07pm On Jul 08, 2020
Oshoboy01:
I Am Ready To Pray For Covid-19 Patients In Isolation Centres – TB Joshua

Nigerian Pastor TB Joshua has signalled his readiness to virtually offer prayer for COVID-19 patients in isolation centres around the world.

In a special announcement posted to Joshua’s YouTube channel Emmanuel TV, the cleric called on relevant government and medical authorities to “organise those who are in isolation” and “arrange how to connect them to us on Emmanuel TV”.

“The blessing of Jesus is for those who knock and ask,” the announcement began. “In whatever way you support to make this happen, we are a team; we are not doing more than you,” it added.

“Together we shall pray for them. Together we shall be set free from this COVID-19,” the statement continued, quoting the Biblical reference in Luke 4:40 where Jesus healed “all who had various kinds of sickness after the mass prayer.”

“The same anointing that heals one is also able to heal all at the same time,” it concluded, calling on all interested parties to contact the church via their email address info@emmanuel.tv.

Last week, the World Health Organisation reacted to a trending video in which a Cameroonian medical doctor was ‘healed’ from COVID-19 after receiving “interactive prayer” from Joshua’s ministry, acknowledging “spiritual leadership is very important in a time like this”.

His testimony was followed days later by a couple of university lecturers who equally acknowledged receiving healing from the dreaded virus, replete with medical reports before and after prayers from Emmanuel TV.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRDg_GpQ_-E

Since starting its ‘Interactive Prayer’ – in which online prayer is offered via video calls – Joshua’s ministry has prayed for COVID-19 patients from around the world including citizens of USA, South Africa, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Honduras and Cuba.

VIDEO -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CqYnKeRZLM
Hope they will allow you, they didn’t allow me to enter the isolation Centre at Yaba . They said I can’t come in to lay hands . Okay let me come in and just stretch my hands at them they refuse telling me to stand at the gate and pray
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Donald Trump A Spiritual Danger? by petra1(m): 3:03pm On Jul 08, 2020
OLAADEGBU:
What kind grammar is that? undecided
grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua: I Am Ready To Pray For COVID-19 Patients In Isolation Centres by petra1(m): 3:00pm On Jul 08, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 2:59pm On Jul 08, 2020
WINNERSMOG:
My friend, we receive everything from God by faith. Even when it seems we get things miraculously without asking, there must have been an intercessor somewhere praying on our behalf.
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That’s true
Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 8:27am On Jul 08, 2020
onlyfacts:
Luke 22:50,51. Jesus healed the man called malchus after his ear was cut off by Peter without the man having faith in him. Nowhere in the gospels of Matt, mark, luke or John does it ever mention the man had faith in Jesus, rather it mentions he came with the crowd to arrest Jesus that night.

Cc petra1
You’re correct again . It’s an act of his benevolence and mercy . Like the Bible says

Romans 10:20
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.


Such spectacular manifestation don’t take the place of laid down principles of faith . We receive salvation by faith , we receive Holy Spirit by faith

But their are few spectacular cases where someone receive the Holy Spirit without anyone laying hands on them and also receive healing without expecting it
Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 8:20am On Jul 08, 2020
onlyfacts:
The man didn't know who Jesus was and that he could heal, he thought Jesus was a sympathizer. so instead of saying yes or no to Jesus, he said he wanted to get in the pool to get healed. Jesus seeing that the man does not know him or his ability to heal, commanded him to get up and walk and he did, even without the man setting feet into the pool.

Petra1
You’re right God can heal people by his benevolence , people have been healed in a crusade or church service without even expecting a miracle . God chooses to be God sometimes . But he also has set structures and principles . The fact that he acts above it doesn’t change the fundamentals .
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet in court : Update On Sotitobire Missing Baby by petra1(op): 10:59am On Jul 02, 2020
Possiblegee:
Why are they wearing this green uniform ?
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Christianity Etc › Re: World Health Organization Comments On Medical Doctor’s Healing Of Covid-19 Throu by petra1(m): 8:38am On Jul 02, 2020
Why is the video not playing
Christianity Etc › Re: World Health Organization Comments On Medical Doctor’s Healing Of Covid-19 Throu by petra1(m): 8:35am On Jul 02, 2020
I kept telling people , the name of Jesus is cure .
Nation should humble themselves under God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Watch Pastor Chris In LIVE SHOW. by petra1(op): 6:42am On Jul 02, 2020
Bacteriologist:
They can lie to you about this because it's not the only thing they have lied to you about.

Your Jerry curl pastor is a cheat and a lying fraudster who is sure you don't fact check anything.
Maybe you kindly fact check.
Christianity Etc › Prophet in court : Update On Sotitobire Missing Baby by petra1(op): 9:58pm On Jul 01, 2020
Baby’s Father Surrendered 5 baskets Of Charms
olufemi2010Jul 1, 2020 7:46 AM

As the defence progressed in the Sotitobire’s missing child case, one of the witnesses, Oluwasiji Olaniyan, a pastor in the church has testified that the father of the baby, Temitope Kolawole some times ago surrendered five baskets of charms at their church with claims of undergoing a ‘transformational change.’

On Monday, defence resumed as the Attorney-General and Commissioner for Justice, Adekola Olawoye (SAN) cross-examined the second defence witness (DW2).

During the cross-examination, Olawoye put it to the witness that one of the goals of establishing religious centres was to bring about a positive transformation in their adherents.

Olaniyan, while responding to questions on the circumstances of the investigation of the missing boy, maintained that he made statement to the police that the prophet had told the couple that he suspected the baby’s father on the case of the missing boy.

He, however agreed that the prophet did not report the ushers at the police station and that he was only invited at the DSS office upon a petition submitted by the parents of the missing boy, while he admitted that about 5000 members worshipped at their church.

The defense third witness (DW3), Richard Akinnagbe, in his testimony, who claimed to be a veterinary doctor by profession said he lives at South city estate.

He professed to know the parents of the missing boy and all the defendants, and said that he was in the church to attend the service.

After the sermon, I heard a noise behind and upon enquiry, it was about the missing boy. And I assisted the mother to look for the child around the church,” Akinnagbe said.

He also testified that the mother had confided in him that her husband forced her to come to church and also mandated her to drop the baby off at the children department of the church.

According to him, the mother of the baby admitted that she could not report to the police because sometime in November, 2018, her husband was kidnapped.

She said that the kidnappers demanded N3 million and they paid N1.2 million before her husband was released.

“My husband and his friends are the ones that will look for my baby because I know what they are capable of doing.”

“When we got back, we met the husband drinking La Casera. She attacked him and held his clothes while accusing him of being nonchalant about the missing boy.

“I tried to separate them. In short, it was around 8 p.m before I left for home.” Akinnagbe said

He explained further that he felt the need to contribute to the investigation having been involved in the case at the onset.

He explained that he had been to ‘B’ Division and FSARS in Akure before he was later referred to the DSS office.

He claimed that he wrote statements three times at the DSS office while they tore it with an explanation that it was not what they expected from him.

He said that he was detained overnight at the DSS office while they took his picture after ordering him to remove his clothes which he did.

He also claimed that the officers put cuffs on his hands and legs overnight.

During cross-examination, the Attorney General asked him to reconcile the fact that he first testified that the mother of the missing boy had confided in him that she suspected her husband and his later claim that she was coming to the church the next day to fight the prophet and she was coming with kerosene and petrol to burn down the church.

He probed further that how did she make the swift change overnight if his claim were to be believed.

As there was no other witnesses in court, they applied for an adjournment till the next day, Tuesday, June 30.

The development, did not go well with the judge who reminded them that all concerned parties had agreed to an accelerated hearing and that since the defence had indicated that it would call twenty witnesses, the court had cleared it’s diary to accommodate them.

While adjourning till the next day, he ordered that the defence must bring at least five more of its witnesses to court.

When the case resume the following day, the defence called its fourth witness (DW4).

The fourth witness, Taiwo Fagite who elected to swear by Ogun, said he was the traditional personal assistant to the Deji of Akure, Oba Aladetoyinbo Aladelusi.

He said that he knows the defendants and the parents of the missing boy.

According to him, on November 12, the baby’s father came to the palace and met him at the male passage way in the palace.

He said that he explained his situation to him and he had asked him what he had been doing regarding the missing boy as he did not look like someone whose child was missing.

Fagite testified further that Kolawole asked to see the king with the hope that he would fight his cause.

“The prophet was invited for noon. And when he came, Kolawole was nowhere to be found when he was directed to call him to the meeting.

I was informed by the other palace staff that Kolawole had left when he saw the prophet,” he said.

He expressed that he was surprised when he saw on the social media the next morning that the father of the baby claimed that he was chased out of the palace.

He stated further that he saw the missing boy’s parents when he went to Anti-kidnapping office the next day to lodge a complaint of a missing maid at the palace with the O/C kidnapping whom he called “Father Christmas.”

He claimed to have rebuked them before the police for being nonchalant about their missing boy and also spreading false information.

He said that he had to prevail upon the couple to come to palace in order to clear the integrity of the palace which had been smeared.

He said that the husband came on the third day and explained that his wife could not come because they had a festival in their hometown, Ondo.

He testified that Kolawole demanded that he wanted the children department ushers to swear at the Palace that they knew nothing about the disappearance of the missing boy which they did.

During cross-examination, the Attorney General asked him to reconcile the fact that a man who came with a complaint would disappear when the person he came to report showed up.

He also put it to him that when the prophet came calling at the palace, he was accompanied by a popular Akure chief, popularly known as Ade Basket.

He also said that about 20 people accompanied the prophet on the said day.

Also testifying, one of the evangelists, Funmilayo Ogunmusi described the circumstances of the child disappearance.

She told the court that the church workers and ministers went on several spiritual exercises in order to unravel the mystery behind the development.

The hearing was, however brought to a halt despite the court’s directive that the defence should bring in five more of its witnesses as the lead counsel, Olusola Oke sought an adjournment on health grounds amidst other factors.

Though not well disposed to the application, Justice Olusegun Odusola adjourned the case till July 14, 15, 16,22 and 23, 2020 for continuation of hearing.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Covid19: The Church Of God Must Open - Enough Of The Persecution (pics, Video) by petra1(m): 8:44pm On Jul 01, 2020
karo93:
The medical interventions you have had so far have kept you alive so what exactly is your point?
I work in health . It's my heritage by my faith .
Health › Re: COVID-19: Woman Slumps, Dies As Husband Tests Positive In Delta by petra1(m): 8:26pm On Jul 01, 2020
Nbote:
Some morons especially on nairaland here are still doubting dat fact and saying there isn't covid 19 in d country...
How truthful is the test. Don't be suprise if you go to them you will test positive too.
Christianity Etc › Re: Covid19: The Church Of God Must Open - Enough Of The Persecution (pics, Video) by petra1(m): 8:19pm On Jul 01, 2020
karo93:
If the church was essential non christian nations will be dead, dying, sick, poor, economically and politically backward useless places....

Non christians will be sick, poor, disease ridden.....etc

The fact that all these things happen without the church means its not essential to life....
If chemist is essential how come I haven't died, I dont go to chemist or hospital
Christianity Etc › Re: Ask Me Any Question About Spirituality by petra1(m): 8:05pm On Jul 01, 2020
OLAADEGBU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT7bZS7scq0

David Wood in this videoclip answers the question you and twosquare either failed or refused to answer.
Of course Allah is not jehovah. But I have said it to you that I used to believe they were same until I read the book " who is this Allah "
Christianity Etc › Re: Watch Pastor Chris In LIVE SHOW. by petra1(op): 7:54pm On Jul 01, 2020
Christianity Etc › Pastor Chris Is LIVE Now by petra1(op): 7:36pm On Jul 01, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyakhilome Said Convid19 Is A Scam, Which Coronavirus Did TB Joshua Heal? by petra1(m): 7:35pm On Jul 01, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Former Atheist Sociopath, David Wood, Finds Jesus In Prison by petra1(m): 6:06pm On Jul 01, 2020
I pray some more atheist should land in prison if that's what it will take for God to finally get their attention.
Christianity Etc › Re: Watch Pastor Chris In LIVE SHOW. by petra1(op): 4:56pm On Jul 01, 2020
Maestro21:
, why would they lie? What will be the point?
Same thing I’m asking
Christianity Etc › Re: Covid19: The Church Of God Must Open - Enough Of The Persecution (pics, Video) by petra1(m): 4:53pm On Jul 01, 2020
karo93:
The government made a list of priorities essential for human life such as food and money.
Is church not essential ?

Wonderful as religion is. Humans will not die without it. At worst they will go to hell and the government doesnt base decisions on their spiritual values but rather physical.
The America we are copying with lockdown oprne churches
Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 9:56pm On Jun 30, 2020
WINNERSMOG:
Please, study and stop assuming things. Quote where Jesus healed people without faith in him in the Bible.
Let's be patient .....

...I think he's still checking the scriptures
Christianity Etc › Re: The Clossure of Christ Embassy Uyo : Eyewitness Account (photo Evidence) by petra1(op): 7:18pm On Jun 30, 2020
onlyfacts:
No use of face mask? What is the appropriate population size? Your pastor Chris, advocated for the laying of hands, is that inclusive in the guideline? There are many more.


But looking away from Nigeria, has other CE churches in other parts of the world opened? and will CE obey ALL the guidelines there or some?


PS: while contemplating the answers to the questions raised above, ask yourself these. If every religious and non-religious organizations, people and persons decide to flaunt government directives in Nigeria and the rest of the world as CE pastors and members are doing by not obeying ALL THE REOPENING OF CHURCHES GUIDELINES, how will the world be like? Will that destabilize the governments? Will that cause more law abiding people to spring up?

#thinkAboutIT and respond to me.
Were they not compliant, dud you see the photos Why not read the post.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Pastor Chris Specifically Say 5G Is Responsible For The Deaths? by petra1(m): 4:46pm On Jun 30, 2020
onlyfacts:
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At least a million and one persons will agree with me that he meant what he said even OFCOM of UK, which is 5G is the cause of death and not covid19 and I am very very pleased with that.
I think That was in reference to people falling on the road and dropping dead in China. That wasn't covid 19. Its believed covid 19 was released after that as cover
Christianity Etc › Re: Tb Joshua Heals Foreign Medical Doctor From Covid-19 by petra1(m): 1:54pm On Jun 30, 2020
Medical Doctor for that matter. Name of Jesus is cure . No controversy

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