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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 4:28am On Jul 20, 2020

OkCornel:
Wow! So Jacob promised God he’ll be paying tithe REGULARLY? Why all these lies nau haba?!

Genesis 28:22
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

I think he studied the Bible more than you. You should rather listen to truth

Christianity Etc › Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 8:19pm On Jul 19, 2020

Pastor Adeboye said in today's teaching . . . ."In the English Dictionary tithe is described as 10% of someone's income which is paid as tax to the government or religious organization.

It is obvious that people see tithe a 10% of an income that must be paid to the church compulsorily while others sees from the opposite direction.

Christians and some other religions has always brought different suggestion on what tithing is all about.

Those who believes tithing is not compulsory normally stand against by lamenting on pastors who preach about tithing to paid compulsorily because they see it to be an Old Testament and a law which is not meant to be practiced.

See Adeboye's Clarification On Tithe:
During today's Sunday ministration, Pastor Enoch Adeboye stated that tithe payment is compulsory and went further to give bible passages that clearly back up his statement.

Adeboye said most person has tagged tithe payment which was seen in the book of Malachi 3:8-11, as a law.

He said there is no doubt about that, but he made Christian's understanding from the Bible book of Galatians 3:13-14 that we are the seeds of Abraham.

According to him if tithe payment is a law in the book of Malachi chapter 3 from the children of Abraham we are also meant to understand from the book of Galatians 3:13-14 that Christian's are children of Abraham and therefore seeds from Abraham.

Pastor Enoch Adeboye recalled how Jacob excelled greatly after he made promise to God on regular tithe payment in Genesis 28:10-22. He said Moses wasn't yet born when Jacob made a vow to pay his tithe.

He further urged Christian's to pay tithe after he made it clear by telling a story about a man of God who revealed how successful he was after he decided to give 90% of his Tithe to God. Pastor Adeboye said the man has decided to do so because he sees God to be his senior partner in the business he runs.

He said he wouldn't have love to say this to the outsiders but his children alone because many will not understand the message he is trying to pass.

Watch the full sermon on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE8n2rAJA4M

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by petra1(m): 7:19pm On Jul 19, 2020

Sammyblack87:
Lies from the pit of hell, yenyenyenyenyen, only Nigeria pastors dey cry for tithe and offering

No its rather tithe eaters who are crying against tithe to kill their guilt

Christianity Etc › Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by petra1(m): 7:18pm On Jul 19, 2020

desiredhome:
Yet there are more poor/hungry people around, including your tithe paying members?.......

Opening Churches everywhere because of members money is further enslaving the members who can't pertake of the church gestures........

And who told tithers are poor. You seem to be the one complaining.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Commanded You To Eat Your Tithes, I Didn’t Send Any Scammer To You. by petra1(m): 8:01am On Jul 19, 2020

FatherOfJesus:
I said the lord tithe should be paid every 3 years. Do it rightly.

You pay to the lord in the 3rd year and to a Levite. A Levite is anybody from the descendant of Levi.

Don’t change my word, I will strike you dead.

Youre wrong lord ....The lords tithe for the jews was annual. the tithe paid every 3 years is the tithe for the poor and levite .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest

Christianity Etc › Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by petra1(m): 6:18am On Jul 19, 2020

chijokz:
Correct me if I'm wrong

You are wrong

but it seems the only person who benefits and prospers is the account owner in which all tithes and offerings are paid into. Hypothetically, let's say a church has 200 members that earn $50,000 per annum and all pay their tithes of 10% which leaves them with $45,000 while total tithes paid into the pastor's account is 200x5,000 = $1,000,000 per annum.
That's why pastors will defend and continue to preach the tithing doctrine indefinitely.

Wrong . Tithes are not paid to Pastors account . Church Monty is not Pastors money . 90% of Pastors are doing it voluntarily without getting welfare because they have jobs . Before a ministry will give you a church to pastor you must have a job first . You must be a tither . Pastors are number one Rutgers and givers

Christianity Etc › Re: Who is Pastor Oyedepo paying his tithe and tax to - Micheal A Adeniyi by petra1(m): 2:03am On Jul 19, 2020

telltimes:
He said, "No man is bigger than God, where is Oyedepo paying his own tithe too, is he exempted by God, and will his said curse pass over him"

Pastors are number one tithers and givers . Secondly tithes are given to God not to Pastor . Every minister give their tithes through the ministry of their spiritual fathers or other ministers

Christianity Etc › Re: I Commanded You To Eat Your Tithes, I Didn’t Send Any Scammer To You. by petra1(m): 1:38am On Jul 19, 2020

FatherOfJesus:
Please listen to my instructions ye daddy G.O children. If you want to pay your tithes, pay it rightly. Your criminal daddies are going to hell for capitalizing on the stupidity of you lot, you have my words.

Thats not Gods tithe. Gods tithe is given in the house of God. Under the law they had 3 tithes. Tithe to God, Tithe for the levite and poor and a tithe to eat feast. The recreational tithe does not take the place of Gods tithe

TITHE TO THE LORD
Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto]the Lord

THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.

TITHE FOR THE POOR
Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

As much as we are not tithing based on the law. This is just to clarify your misunderstanding of the Bible . We tithe base on Faith and covenant of God with Abrahamic Who is our father of faith

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Bible View On Cutting Ones Hair by petra1(m): 1:33am On Jul 19, 2020

mumumugu:
OkMany Christian leaders advice you cut your hair .It makes me wander, If uncut hair is not pleasing in God's sight,why did he let it grow.
A woman hair is seen as her glory.could it be that ladies are advised to cover their hair so as not to distract men who came to church to seek the glory of God and not the glory of women.? Is this why some Catholic revrend sisters mandate revrend sisters to cut their hair as symbol of life of self sacrifice.

Meanwhile Lev 9 vs 17

19:27 “Ye shall not shave around your temples (round the corners of your heads); neither shalt you mar the corners of the beard.” ... Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. It is generally held to mean that you

In the old testament, Samson was advised not to cut his hair. Is his case eslxceptional?

How you look is a choice.

Christianity Etc › Re: Twin Brother Takes Over Church Of Disgraced Pastor, Albert Odulele by petra1(m): 7:51pm On Jul 18, 2020

aloyemeka1:
Unfortunately, that is the case with many Nigerian owned churches today. The same scenario played in Celestial church and they employed the services of babalawos and AK 47's to settle the scores.

That can't be true

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Tithing Really Scriptural In The New Testament With The Death Jesus Christ? by petra1(m): 7:50pm On Jul 18, 2020

. If tithing is outdated then offering is outdated, alms should be outdated too . Honoring your parents should be outdated alsoTithes and offerings are eternal principles. Its greed that make people come with new theories. Malachi prophecy was directed to Israel as a nation. Not priests only

Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Do A Side Job As A Man Of God? by petra1(m): 10:59am On Jul 18, 2020

Ay92:
" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

Except if God specifically says not to. Paul was doing tent construction as a side job. Secondly most denominational Pastors have jobs . They are mostly volunteers in Pastoring .

Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: If You Don’t Pay Your Tithe You Are Under A Financial Curse by petra1(m): 10:17am On Jul 18, 2020

Amotolongbo:
It seems some people’s minds have been opened by the effects of the COVID19. They got to realize that many things being preached in church aren’t real, and understand that nothing will happen if one stays at home on Sunday.

Pastor Oyedepo And Oyakilome have been bursted now, judging their aggressive agitation against the church closure caused by the outbreak of the pandemic.
The reason they have been so much antagonizing church closure is surely based on dwindling response to tithe and offering payment and being afraid of people ever being faithful to it again.

He understands his aggressive preaching against church closure isn’t working, hence the stylish urge for tithing backed up with curse

In 21st century. We are un cashless world . Sorry to burst your bubble Giving never stopped . We have been giving by bank transfer . tongue

Christianity Etc › Re: Senior RCCG Pastor Accuse Church Of Not Giving Him Enough, Forms New Ministry by petra1(m): 9:32pm On Jul 15, 2020

Pastor Odutola, who is the senior Pastor of Jesus House Baltimore, cited lack of care from the church in his 30 years of service.

Q, but revealed he had served RCCG for 30 years without receiving anything in return.

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When we tell people that most Pastors are volunteers they don't believe

Christianity Etc › Re: Covid-19, The World Wide Pandemic That Destroyed Every Religion And Their Gods by petra1(m): 7:13pm On Jul 15, 2020

IamMichael:

Use your head, religion is a ruse! Except you are making money from it, stay away from it. It will Always end in your religious brethren eating rice and drinking beer on top your head...Just like everyone else!

Buff said!

IAMMICHAEL!

Psalms 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. .

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Reaction As Reno Omokri Kicks Against Chris Okotie's Stance Against Online Ch by petra1(m): 3:41am On Jul 15, 2020

The church service is assembly. Not virtual

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God? Enoch, The Book Of Enoch & The Anunnaki's by petra1(m): 2:38am On Jul 15, 2020*

JMAN05:
That's an interesting question we should find the answer.

Meaning you don't know

The knowledge could have come through oral tradition

Now you're assuming . Well Oral tradition still has a source . That means enoch had a book of prophecy

or inspiration.

More assumption

But not from book of Enoch

More assumptions .

Jude may have even written his account before that book of Enoch.

Very funny assumption and a lie. How come the scrolls are hundreds of years before Jesus was born. And are part ofndeas sea scrolls. And Are you aware Some of the contents in the book of enoch are also in the book of jasher?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Okotie Finally Speaks Out About Covid 19 by petra1(op): 12:16pm On Jul 14, 2020

Jesus became the apokiosis of God . . . .

Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Okotie Finally Speaks Out About Covid 19 by petra1(op): 12:15pm On Jul 14, 2020

... John saw The pantocrato

...

Christianity Etc › Chris Okotie Finally Speaks Out About Covid 19 by petra1(op): 8:59am On Jul 14, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uPbf7T0KbQ

Christianity Etc › Re: Must Read!!! Why I Don’t attend Church Or Believe Everything In The Bible by petra1(m): 10:07pm On Jul 13, 2020

IkwerrePikin:
Until someone explains this to me, i will not read the bible or attend any church again!

Why will the Bible say, “Almighty, Powerful and Supreme God the creator of heaven and earth, who’s knows about the future, regretted creating man?

You can only regret if you don’t know tomorrow!

Anyone who believes God regrets, that person means God does not know tomorrow! And I don’t agree with that. As long as i know and believe, my God does not regret because he knows the beginning and the end.

This is one among other bibles verses that says; God regret.
Genesis 6:6 (CSB) the Lord regretted that He had made man on the earth.

Feel free to enlighten me if you have anything to say!

God gave man the power of will. Man is not like angels who only follow commands. He created man with the ability of choice to obey him and not to obey him .

Christianity Etc › Pastor Chris Moving Tribute To Dr Morris Cerullo by petra1(op): 9:22pm On Jul 13, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9vTBoHpw9M

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God? Enoch, The Book Of Enoch & The Anunnaki's by petra1(m): 2:15pm On Jul 13, 2020

JMAN05:
I don't know how u arrived at that. But Peter and James can't quote from a book they were not trained from childhood as inspired. That book was not part of the Jewish Canon.

Jud 1:15
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Which scripture is jude quoting from?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christain Should Understand That There Is Nothing Like "CHURCH" In The Bible by petra1(m): 7:46am On Jul 12, 2020

Juliusmomoh:
.Christain Should Understand That There Is Nothing Like "CHURCH" In The Bible.

Its obvious you haven't read the bible well enough

Acts 8:1
And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; .

Health › Re: How Come There Was No Lockdown For Ebola Which Was Deadlier? by petra1(op): 6:54am On Jul 12, 2020

LordReed:
Have you seen that Sweden is not a success story.

It’s a success except they are under biological attack.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God? Enoch, The Book Of Enoch & The Anunnaki's by petra1(m): 4:41am On Jul 12, 2020

JMAN05:
The faithful Jews during the time of Ezra didn't identify the book of Enoch as one of the holy books.

The Bible accounts are not that way.

James quoted from the book of enoch chapter 2.

Peter also made reference to it. That does not validate the claims of the OP about God anyway

Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Christian Adherents Have To Say About This by petra1(m): 4:35am On Jul 12, 2020

atheistandproud:
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Furthermore, Abram (Abraham) and Sarai (Sarah) were Sumerians. They hail from Ur of the Chaldeans, a Sumerian town. They worshipped Sumerian gods. When Abram left Sumer, he carried his religion along with him. He even gave tithe to a Sumerian high priest Melchizedek.

Lol.

You're right that Abram was an idol worshiper but you're wrong to say he carried his idol with him . Jehovah God called abram out of his family so as to worship jehovah only .

Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

Christianity Etc › Evangelist Morris Cerullo's Last Moments With Oyedepo, Chris Oyakhilome, Enenche by petra1(op): 4:01am On Jul 12, 2020

MORRIS CERULLO’S LAST DAYS IN NIGERIA AND UK WITH BISHOP OYEDEPO, PASTORS NTIA, ENENCHE AND OYAKHILOME

Evangelist Morris Cerullo has gone to be with the Lord. Many however may not be aware that he began to mention his departure back in February 2015 first to Bishop David Oyedepo at Faith Tabernacle, Canaanland. He had thought and said then that it would be his last visit to Nigeria.

However, he was back again at the dedication of the world’s largest auditorium, 100,000 capacity Glory Dome of Dunamis International on 24th November 2018 and was with Pastor Chris Oyakhilome the next day in Lagos. He did not forget to state that these were his last days and that he would not return to Nigeria.

For some reason however, he repeated the visit to Glory Dome and Noah’s Ark in 2019 and finally he was in London with Pastor Chris Oyakhilome on 13th August 2019 where he again prophesied as usual at the World Evangelism Conference. He stated clearly then that it would be his last visit around the world.

Truly, ‘Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.’
Psalm 116:15

#EvangelistMorrisCerullo
#ASaintDepartsIntoGlory
#1931-2020.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1638839366283293&id=352021311631778

May his soul rest in Peace.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 3:53am On Jul 12, 2020

BluntTheApostle:
You are taking Bible verses out of context.

Science is not vain babblings, neither does it necessarily oppose the Word of God.

Science is for the carnal . Well I didnt write the bible .

Even Cyrus, a pagan king, was used by God to free the Jews from captivity, and rebuild the Temple. Cyrus, a pagan king, was called the Lord's anointed

You seem to be the one quoting out of context now. What has this to do with healing. Maybe we can go to babalawo na. And also consult witches no be pagan?

The scriptures can't be broken . God is jehovah rapha. Yesterday today and for ever.

2Ch 16:12 — 2Ch 16:13
And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.
And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign.

Mar 5:25 — Mar 5:26
And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

Jam 5:13 — Jam 5:15
Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Mar 16:17 — Mar 16:18
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Christianity Etc › Re: Kanye West Says Proposed Coronavirus Vaccine Is 'mark Of The Beast' by petra1(m): 7:55am On Jul 10, 2020

mmsen:
Insanity.

Hopefully he gets the help that he needs.

Same for that Christ Embassy clown he says many of the same stupid things.

It’s easy to spot Paid Troll

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God? Enoch, The Book Of Enoch & The Anunnaki's by petra1(m): 7:51am On Jul 10, 2020

potent5:
Where then is the book of Enoch?

You can download it from play store

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 7:48am On Jul 10, 2020

BluntTheApostle:
You are confusing matters..

Taking vaccines does not mean you lack faith in God. It means that you have faith in the work of God through doctors and science.

Is that what Jesus taught . Is that What he died for? Where is the healing power of the church . We Put trust scientist than Gods word . Just like Asa and the woman with the issue of blood

1 Timothy 6:20-21
20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

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