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Christianity Etc › Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by petra1(op): 1:18pm On Jun 30, 2020

Maestro21:
Typical dumb atheist.

Nobody equated Hydroxychloroquine's approval as a tested drug to its fit for purpose for COVID-19. However, whatever concomitant side effects that emanate from its use would be the same for even the disease that it was approved for. Commonsense is not argued into existence. You either have it or you don't.

Efficacy of the drug is already established. Your dosage argument is unoriginal and facile. There is no drug that if wrongly taken will not have at times damaging consequences. Stop faking to be in the know. Your pseudo intellect is bare for all to see. You are a fake, a fraud, a complete fugazi and a wannabe.

Yes

Christianity Etc › Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 11:52am On Jun 30, 2020

Kobojunkie:
But we know His wife has not been as hail and hearty as he claims he has been for 40 years.

Faith is personal. He speaks for himself
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I bet if we searched heard, we would find out that he has probably been seen by at least a doctor, and maybe even prescribed medications as well.

It's an assumption . If he had lied . He would have been taken up

Family › Re: Should I Divorce My Wife? by petra1(m): 8:12am On Jun 30, 2020

annsrealms:
For your own good, discontinue that relationship. I have heard stories like this and they don't end well.

And marriage is not about beauty.

I.agree with you

Family › Re: Should I Divorce My Wife? by petra1(m): 8:11am On Jun 30, 2020

Encash:
I.

But this woman is disrespectful. Pastors prophet tell she has a spirit husband. Sometimes I see a man fighting me in the dream. After sex smthing will bit my d..k. 3 times a year. She refused to go for deliverance. She is stubborn and self centered.

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Move out of the house . unless she goes for deliverance. Its s spiritual problem. That thing is real . It may cost you your life, finance ,job . Spirit husband is real . The woman is a victim of it . But she has her personal responsibility of attitude and character . You must stand your ground

Christianity Etc › Re: Oyakhilome Said Convid19 Is A Scam, Which Coronavirus Did TB Joshua Heal? by petra1(m): 9:52pm On Jun 29, 2020

Carchoice:
There’s a thread on front page about a medical doctor being cured of coronavirus by TB joshua’s pastor

That's Cameroonian medical Doctor

But pastor Oyakhilome said convid19 is a scam.

That's Nigeria. If you have tooth ache you will be captured and labelled covid patient. The rise in infection is based on false data.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Brothers And Sisters In The Lord by petra1(m): 4:22pm On Jun 29, 2020

Successdude:
I want to retreat in prayers. So I need suggestion of a location or church or cathedral one can stay without being disturbed by anyone.

I really have to engage stuff until I get answers ...

Your roomu nko?

And also suggest me Bible portions that would call out deep things.

Concerning scripture It depends on what your isolation is about . You haven't given any information. Is it just to fellowship with God or there trouble. Are you interceding for someone ,city,nation, family or a community

Christianity Etc › Re: James The Younger Brother Of Jesus Took Over Church Leadership by petra1(op): 2:04pm On Jun 29, 2020

PaChukwudi44:
James the just was the first Bishop of Jerusalem and a very influential member of the early church but Peyer was his leader

Why Was peter afraid of him then

Christianity Etc › Re: Can One Be A Sinner And Still Love God?? by petra1(m): 2:00pm On Jun 29, 2020

DenreleDave:
Can a man be a sinner and still fears, love and believe God?

Yes he fornicates, he lies but he fears God.. He believes there is a God that lives in heaven, he believes that there is judgement. He hopes to repent one day.

For example; a man that start stealing because he is poor and has family to feed.. He has tried many things but not working for him and he result to stealing.. In his mind, he loves God but situation won't make him stop stealing... He fears the repercussions of sin but he can't stop but he hopes to stop it one day and be forgiven..

It’s true . Firstly it’s only a christian what can sin against God . An unbeliever cannot sin . Every sin is. Forgivesbke but willful sin has consequences . It’s better to bag than to steal . There is no justification . He only use poverty as excuse for his lust . He has not allowed the word of God to dominate . He should report himself to his pastor and get help

Christianity Etc › Re: Does Getting Married Makes One Weak As A Christian??? by petra1(m): 1:55pm On Jun 29, 2020

delkuf:
For example, I recently decided to fast, but I couldn't do more than the first day.

Marriage Should never be a reason for not doing your spiritual obligation except you have made wrong decision .

Another example, I love writing and any time I want to write, I love being in a quiet place. I can spend hours alone just to write. But now, I can't spend one hour before my wife start disturbing me with one or the other. I have not pick up pen to write something for close to four months now.

Its not supposed to be so . Hope you made the right decision

is it true that when you get married you can't do somethings as a Christian

The only thing you may not be able to do are boys things Which may not be very responsible . You can’t go And sleep in friends house or just wake up and travel with friends etc . You should be a responsible person

A pastor told that since he got married, he doesn't go out for morning cry again.

He’s not serious yet . He will answer God for his call .

And don't tell me that I got married to the wrong person.

That’s between you and God . Because the sign you’re given us is opposite of Gods plan . Don’t take offense . I don’t know if you did marriage class before getting married in your church . Two people can be best of friends but they may not be best for marriage . Marriage primarily has to do with Gods plan and destiny . So when marriage begin to get in the way of assignment and destiny we have to question the foundation of that marriage . People marry for wrong reason sometimes . A partner is supposed to compliment your life not oppose it . The partner is supposed to know what you stand for , your purpose , your course , your cause , your passion , your conviction your assignment and vision . If the person say yes to it that settles it . But sometimes people go into relationship . They don’t study each other first to find out there’ vital issue of life . Then that’s a serious trouble . You have to chose between marriage and your purpose of existence .

I fasted and prayed before God led me to her..

Abeg.... he adds no sorrow . .. neither author of confusion . You chose her period . You have to address the issue early . Sit her down and tell her your vision and priorities . Somebody has to bend .But if you had told her all these before and now she’s standing in the way . You have to be a man. Stand your ground . This is destiny . if she’s really your Wife she will submit . It’s not about you . It’s about your assignment .

Christianity Etc › Re: Obey God- Obey Your Parents by petra1(m): 1:31pm On Jun 29, 2020

Missyajoke:
. Saw a post somewhere where someone was saying you shouldn't obey what your parents are saying. The bible says " Honour your father and your mother"

Honour for parents is a biblical principle . Not honoring them can bring curse on people .

Through honour you obey and listen . Your parents are correcting you're complaining.. . . " why don't you pray for God to touch their hearts. Without their consent you got married and you think they will be happy with you and God will happy with you. Your parents.

As much as it’s scriptural to honour them . There is however a limit to your submission to them . Firstly you’re free to make your decision as an adult . And even if you’re a child you have the right to disssobey your parents if their stand is contrary to God . You can’t follow your parent to shrine after you get saved in the name of honor .

Matthew 10:37
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Paul admonish us to obey them only in the lord . Not outside the lord

Ephesians 6:1
1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

Remember Not every parent is spiritual .Aiken Parents Are not trained or matured to be parents . Patents have destroyed many lives by control of destiny . They can be used by the enemy if care is not taken . Christ must be Our lives

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Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help, Do We Have Unforgivable Sins? by petra1(m): 1:15pm On Jun 29, 2020

bloomstar:
Hello everyone, now this is a serious issue...

I have about sins that can or might not be forgiven, and that's sins against the holy spirit as i learnt.

Yes Jesus said so

Matthew 12:31
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Now my main questions is, you committed this sins when you have zero knowledge of their consequences.
Please am asking, is it justifiable?

Any sin committed in ignorance cannot stand against you. But when knowledge comes you can repent of it .

And another question is, The Bible said if you believe in Jesus Christ, you are saved...

Now someone who have such past sins against the holy spirit but later believe in Jesus and repent, what is his fate....

The sin against the Holy spirit can only be committed by mature christian . Whatever you did before being a Christian has no hold . Its gone by the supplanting if the new nature

Because this matter tire person o... I read were it has been stated plainly that these sins against holy spirit will not be forgiven.

In the days of the earthly ministry of Jesus things were different , because he was dealing with religious people who knew God . The Jews were God worshipers . But In the church dispensation the unforgivable sin Against the Holy Spirit is to renounce the lordship of Jesus . That is the sin unto death which is eternal separation From God .

1 John 5:16-17
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

It’s a total turn back from following christ . It is Apostasy

Hebrews 10:26-27
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

You can see from the above that there is no issue of trying to find out if one has mistakenly commited the unpardonable sin The person has to willfully commit it .

Now this not a sin a baby christian can commit . It can only be committed by a mature christian or a minister of God .

Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

The person would have lost any sense of feeling after the conscience . Anyone who is concerned if he has commited the sin has not , because you still have conviction of the Holy Spirit which makes you feel concern .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Those Who Claim To Be Matured Believers But Are Afraid Of Being Beheaded by petra1(m): 11:26am On Jun 29, 2020

OpenYourEyes1:
So, I find it surprising when some who you think are matured believers are afraid of being beheaded or killed.

Dying for christ is not really a problem but for what reason is the question. I will rather stay alive and touch many lives than dying . My life is more profitable to God than death. A christian should do his best to stay alive for the cause of the gospel.
But if the church is facing persecution and has to go underground and they capture you to reveal where the rest are or they will kill you ,that will be a good time to die knowing that you death has preserved the lives of others . Or if they capture and say they will spare you if you renounce christ . It's better to die at such times . But other than that I don't see a reason why a Christian should die especially if he has not fulfilled his course

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Christianity Etc › The Clossure of Christ Embassy Uyo : Eyewitness Account (photo Evidence) by petra1(op): 9:42am On Jun 29, 2020*

[/i]Christ Embasy Uyo Closure: Eye Witnesses Account With Photo Evidence
PCBGISTJun 27, 2020 7:56 PM

So many has been said about the Christ Embassy Church, Uyo zonal headquarters. I took out my time to make some enquiries as to why such an organized church with graduate pastors would want to put the lives of many Nigerians at stake. Why they would flaw government stipulated directives to curtail the spread of this dangerous incurable virus.

A lady explained What really happened in Christ Embassy Church in Akwa Ibom before it was shut down. A look at the sitting arrangement shows the church complied with the social/physical distancing rule. (PHOTS BELOW)

The news of the Church being shut down in Akwa Ibom state has caused a lot of reactions from people online.

After the statement was released by government officials, many people explained what really happened at the church last Sunday.

This leads to a lady who is the confirmed member of the church opens up on what really happened after the news was all over media.

The Management committee of Covid19 issued a statement on sunday that a church, which was confirmed to be Christ Embassy church founded by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is sealed by the committee, because the church did not obey the rules and regulations or protocols of covid-19, precisely social distancing in Akwa Ibom.

The government official said in a statement that when CAN and convid-19 committee member visited the church, they discovered that they have obstructed the laws set by different organisation to prevent the spread of the virus. So they have to close the church. A look at the covid-19 enforcement team showed they were the ones that defiled the social distancing rule.

However, as I said earlier when the news was out, a Lady explained that what the Secretary said is not totally true .She said that she was there when the whole thing started and the information was not accurate. She said the policemen were the ones that came and even start attacking the members of the church.

She further explained that police even slapped one of the media crew members and collected his camera so that he will not view the whole scene.

She further emphasized that the policemen were the ones showing violence. This was what she said after she read the letter from Emmanuel Ekuwem: "liars, I was in that church today, the church obeyed the guidelines and your policemen that were with the task force were the ones showing violence. A policeman slapped a member of the media team and took his camera from him. Nite: this camera is church property and was used in recording the way people entered into the church and how they applied sanitizer to people's palms"

Another witness, a man who chose not to be mentioned had this to say:

"It was a beautiful service on Sunday at Christ Embassy Uyo, I was welcomed to church by our great ushers, with one of them using a thermometer to check body temperature, when I step forward I was welcomed with a smile by our beautiful ushers carrying hand sanitizer. I was amazed at the level of cordination there and in front of her was over 20 bottles of hand sanitizer, wow, on getting into the church hall, there was a well arranged hall with all necessary compliance, excellently arranged to meet our ministry standard.

I was so happy because it was a beautiful day, to the Glory of God, the service ended and God was glorified.

Sadly after church service I was disappointed to notice armed men on uniform, read this, the service was over at this point, I was afried to see this,

The statement and report from the media is a big lie from the pit of hell, I withnessed the incident,IT WAS A PEACEFUL DIALOGUE but the person in charge of the team slapped our camera man that recorded the incident and went away with our church Camera, I believe we are all educated and we know the effect of COVID 19.

#i am a Christ Embassy member,

# I say NO to false media report."

[i]Also reacting to the news, Bro. Anselm, a leader in the church said CAN is fighting the church because the church refused to join CAN due to its involvements with politics and the way it handles some issues. The church therefore prefers to be dissassioted with the body

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Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Poor Because You Are Not Giving by petra1(m): 2:41am On Jun 29, 2020

ayenale1:
Bros are you sure you are all right??

Did you read the verseS yourself .

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by petra1(m): 8:16pm On Jun 28, 2020

Dantedasz:
My friend,
The bible is not Ifa divination that you need a priest to interpret it for you.All you need to understand the bible is ability to READ and COMPREHEND.

Seeing is one thing comprehending is another. There are principles to bible interpretation if not the ethiopian eunuch would not ask Philip to interpret the verse he was reading

Before I became an atheist I was a Christian and I have read the bible cover to cover several times
Oh , so you're one of them . In that case theres no point discussing spiritual matters with an unconverted because the holy spirit that give understanding is not in you . Except you're not yet a proper unbeliever . Your a christian who just lost his way but deep down you know your just rebelling .

The problem with Christian's is that you guys do NOT read your religious book but rely on what people or your pastors tell you.
For the last time I repeat the virgin story in Isiah Chapter 7 is NOT talking about Jesus Christ virgin birth.
There are TWO different virgin birth stories in the bible.
The author of Mathew for reasons best known to him or because of mistranslation decided to claim the story in Isiah Chapter 7 refers to Jesus but it does not.
Isiah Chapter 7 refers to a virgin birth during a war as a sign to a king.
Go and read your bible please.

Enough talks . Just quote the passage for is and tell us who's its talking about

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Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by petra1(m): 7:47pm On Jun 28, 2020

Dantedasz:

I suggest you read Isiah Chapter 7 completely. It is self explanatory and simple enough proof that Isiah was talking of a different virgin birth.
The author of Mathew for reasons best known to him took that passage in Isiah and falsely interpreted it as being about Jesus Christ.
You guys need to do a little reading and research sometimes. That is why atheists always beat you at knowledge of your religious book because we read and have an open mind. I suggest you get Isiah Isiah Chapter 7 and read it then tell me if the writer is referring to Jesus virgin birth or a virgin birth that concerns a war. I know this is difficult for you because the INDOCTRINATION from youth is strong.

You're still wrong, you are the one who need to study how to interpret prophecies .

There is never a case in the bible of virgin birth apart from christ . If there is kindly explain to us who got the virgin pregnant in the old testament..
Even if at all there is any case like that which I'm sure there is none . There are principles involved in interpretations of prophecies .

There is law of foreshortening
There is law of double reference etc
By the law of double reference there are prophecies that have multiple fulfillment. Prince of Persia could have a partial earthly reference yet a spiritual reference
David prophesying about ahithiopel betrayal yet still applicable to Judas betrayal . But on this topic that's not the case . There is only one virgin , Mary

Christianity Etc › Re: Trousers And Earrings: Wrong Or Right? Read This! by petra1(m): 6:15pm On Jun 28, 2020

Your fashion is your choice as long as its decent.

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by petra1(m): 6:14pm On Jun 28, 2020

Dantedasz:
Oga,
Just so you know Isiah Chapter 7 verse 14 is NOT even talking about Jesus Christ but an entirely DIFFERENT virgin birth which the author of Matthews gospel cunningly and probably ignorantly ascribed to the Jesus virgin birth story for his own reasons.

You're wrong . On what ground will you say such thing

Mat 1:22 — Mat 1:23
Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Church Recorded 114 Coronavirus Healing Testimonies – Bishop Oyedepo by petra1(m): 6:07pm On Jun 28, 2020

The church is the ground of healing not the place of contagion

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Christianity Etc › Re: Mistakes Some Christians Make Out Of Ignorance by petra1(m): 6:04pm On Jun 28, 2020

MozB:
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Keep shouting na.

Join in

Christianity Etc › Re: Mistakes Some Christians Make Out Of Ignorance by petra1(m): 4:12pm On Jun 28, 2020

MozB:
shout or no shout, God will still accept the praise and that is what matters the most. That is what Op is saying.

If God command to shout ,why should that be an offence to anybody. Shouting has its spiritual significance

Christianity Etc › Re: Mistakes Some Christians Make Out Of Ignorance by petra1(m): 2:06pm On Jun 28, 2020

Ekpekaycee:
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1. It is common for most pastors to encourage their congregation to shout a louder Amen or hallelujah..

It's a joyful way to praise God. The bible encourages shout and joyful noise

Psalms 66:1
Make a joyful noise unto God, all ye lands:

Psalms 47:1
O clap your hands, all ye people;
shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by petra1(m): 10:54am On Jun 28, 2020

MuttleyLaff:

You and I, two years ago or so, I recall have
If she hadn't been a virgin, people will doubt the paternity of Jesus. They will say He isn't a Son of God, that He is the son of Joseph. This is the other strong reason why the young woman had to be a virgin. It is a no brainer, this is why Apostle Paul, didnt have to give emphasis to the virgin fact nor draw attention or focus to it.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Neighbor Is A Pastor by petra1(m): 2:02am On Jun 28, 2020

Join the prayer . Or move out .

Christianity Etc › Re: Strong Massage For Christians Today by petra1(m): 1:58am On Jun 28, 2020

maestro015:
“Are there any Presbyterians here?”
“None”, replied the keeper of the gate.
Wesley was surprised. “Have you any Anglicans?” he asked.
“No one!” was the reply.
“Are there Baptists in there”? Wesley

He didnt ask if there are Redeemed in heaven ,Im sure f he had asked if there were redeemed he would have gotten a yes cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by petra1(m): 1:52am On Jun 28, 2020

TheMadame:
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Is it that Apostle Paul was not aware of the virgin birth being a late convert to Christianity or was there a hidden reason why he fails to mention the virgin birth in any of his letters?
I am intrigued because the virgin birth of .

Who virgin birth hep?
There is no importance about her virginity to salvation. Mary was just an ordinary Person. Mary had to become a believer in christ like everyone else .If Mary did not give her life to christ she would have gone to hell. So mary and her virginity has nothing to do with salvation. Mary was just a vessel to bring forth a baby .Christ is the centre of the gospel.

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

The only reason she had to be a virgin was just to fulfill a sign. That jesus was not a product of a man and woman.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by petra1(m): 1:47am On Jun 28, 2020

Cerebrae:
However, Paul mentioned something close in his letter to the Galatians, Chapter 4

What did he say

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by petra1(m): 1:44am On Jun 28, 2020

Douglaufuoma:
st Paul is not the only person that fail to write about the blessed mother Mary, .

Blessed mother of tani?

Christianity Etc › Re: Preaching Etiquette by petra1(m): 8:33pm On Jun 27, 2020

Talking about ones past may be beneficial and may be destructive . The testifier is supposed to comunicate such only when its necessary. It is only needed why dealing with issue of self condemnation and Gods grace to forgive and cleansed. And should such old life should not be glorified in the testimony. Eg . " we used to enjoy those days"

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Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Poor Because You Are Not Giving by petra1(m): 10:56am On Jun 27, 2020

ayenale1:
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My brothers and sister, anybody you heard preaching giving giving they are the most selfish individual created
, they want to collect from you but they will never give you, why didnt the poster said that first 20 people should drop their account details to transfer atleast 5k to prove his points and references, all na scam. Remember, the more u give the more you walk your way to poverty...those you helped financially yesterday

Galatians 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

2 Corinthians 9:6
But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

Luke 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

If you're not a Christian, kindly leave Christian matters alone.

Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Poor Because You Are Not Giving by petra1(m): 10:49am On Jun 27, 2020

coputa:
,@Mineisgrace you're the same person @Betterpoison.i was also expecting someone to lunch an attack on me and you did,you are so daft that you could not cover your evil track.oh! you want to cry more than the berieved. Your shameful,deceitful and wicked act has been exposed and you can never stop me from assisting people of goodwill in this great forum.

It may be risky to assume they are same. Before you conclude you could have checked the bank details they might give . Even if he sounded offensive to you . You should still do righteousness

Christianity Etc › Re: Confusing Me by petra1(m): 6:59am On Jun 27, 2020

Pheurly:
Good morning... I noticed for some time now, happening for years though...
I'm a young guy 19.. Right from birth I had a calling to become a pastor... ..... I don't understand ooo... I'm just there nii... Thinking since?
Is it okay?
Wat shld I do?

people are praying for Gods call
You are playing with Gods call.

You're acting like one of those people that says " I know God is calling me but I'm running " not running to Godu oh.

Firstly seek God face in a fast and isolation . Ask for forgiveness for your stupidity. Ask for mercy ,ask for directions.

Primarily the best thing to do is to let your local Pastor know about the call on you and submit yourself there for responsibility. That doesn't mean you should not pursue school or career . You can only go into full time ministry when God says so .
The first thing you need now is training.
Eat the bible like kilode" cut off from all distractions . Read books like Gods general. And lastly start winning souls to the church .

Better get our of this attention seeking questions .

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