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Kobojunkie:
There's no need for me to do that. I know several cases whose only work is church work, and they draw benefits and pay from it.

thats few exceptions

Kobojunkie:
You lie!

Make enquiry

seyi360:
As a Christian who has been to several meetings hosted by great deliverance ministers, one thing seem to resonate as a warning to ladies either oppressed by or possessed by marine forces. Which is " Don't wear high heels".
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Its about safety . During prayers . It's also not advisable to wear loose or short gowns. Trousers are even preferable underneath

AntiChristian:
You mean your God is three in one Gods?

Yet one God can pray to the other or one can accuse the other!

Do you understand the meaning of persons

sonmvayina:
I really don't know where to start this lecture from... One thing is sure, you do need help...

Don’t try to lecture rather hearken to counsel

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes:
but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

AntiChristian:
No wonder Pastor Adeboye says Jesus came to drink his tea! Your kind of God is truly amazing!

1. So which God was God accusing of forsaking him when he was about to die on the cross?
2.Which God was God Praying to when he put his face to the ground?
3.Whose voice was saying "this is my beloved son in whom i'm well pleased"? It is supposed to be this is me your God....
4. In John 17:3 it says Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Was God sending himself but God is still one sending Himself.

There are three person in the Godhead

chinebu:
big lie most pastor live large on tithes and offerings ok. I wonder why you are not bringing the whole teaching on tithing and sacrifices from the book of deutronomy to the table. I will love that part too

Wrong , ask redeem, deeper life or cec members . You will know that to even qualify as a Pastor in such churches you must have a good job. As a banker or oil worker or business man etc . They are not paid for the pastoral work . They are volunteers and rather put their monies in the work.

chinebu:
From all these back and forth deliberations I can confidently say that you are a beneficiary of tithe

. Go to scriptures and study my post again . If you find anything unscriptural kindly point it out by scriptures . Launching attacks or insults is uncalled for . It shows weakness in defence . Pastors are mostly volunteers. They have jobs like every other person . They put their monies in ministry rather . Except few who are general overseers

Tribulation period

OVERDUE. . . June is far people want to go to church now.

drderock:
Okay as we speak now, if I see someone who will contact me on Whatsapp to assist me with even if it's [b]N50,000 [/b]to help me get a good start on my dream business, I will stop scamming people and come back here

50,000 only ? Have you not made more than that in scamming? What do you do with the monies na. Or it's the one that come as free Dash you want to invest

AntiChristian:
Paul wasn't with Jesus when he was alive, infact he was a bitter enemy so he can write whatever he likes about Jesus.

In short, your believe is that Yahweh left heaven to enter Mary's womb attaching Himself to her placenta to obtain nutrients. Then after Jehovah was born He sucked his mother's breast. Yahweh was circumcised and two birds were killed. Mary and Joseph even protected God from the evil king who wanted to kill Him as the Lord was still young and helpless. Yahweh was seen praying putting his face to the ground to another God for help. In the end Jehovah God was killed by the humans He created and death. When God was about to die, He shouted Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani. My Lord, My Lord, Why have you forsaken me? Here we see Yahweh accusing another Lord of abandoning Him! Death killed God for three 3days whether Thursday/Friday to Sunday... And God was able to rise in the third day!
What a nice Script!

Precisely !

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

chinebu:
You are trying so hard to defend tithing with your brain explanation

Not hard at all . Just accept the scriptures

. If Christ said tithe is not important which means it's insignificant which also means even if you don't pay tithe it means nothing No consequences at all right.

That’s not what he said but you’re doing what you tried to accuse me of.

He never said tithe is insignificant . He said they should tithe and not neglect other weightier matters . Just give God his tithe

Then remember he said that knowing that his sacrifice on the cross will bring an end to things like the law of tithes. That's why he called it laser matter

He didn’t say so . Why do you give offerings then?
Tithes and offerings are eternal principles .

Malachi 3:8
. . Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me.
But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee?
In tithes and offerings.

sonmvayina:
Do you know how long it was between Isaiah and the supposed time of Jesus.. About 700 years..
The child Isaiah was talking about was born during his time..
I guess no body wrote English for you in Waec or neco.. You know the tense in "for unto us a child IS born....
Let me help you.. It is present tense.

You don’t use human interpretation for prophecy

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

If he was referring to a future son.. He would have said.. For unto us a child WILL be born..

Prophecy is not academics .present tense or past has not been issue . Abraham didn’t have a child yet when God gave him the prophecy below .

Genesis 17:5
. . . for a father of many nations have I made thee.

He should have rather told Abraham “ a father of many nation will I make you”

You compare scriptures with scriptures . That verse is talking about Jesus the God in human body

Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign;
Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son,
and shall call his name Immanuel.

And what is Emmanuel . It means this child is “GOD WITH US”

Well the son he was talking about was Hezekiah.. He was already about 6 years old when he was writing..

Come off it. Then your tenses would have been wrong . It should have been a child has been born . Not a child is born that would have been appropriate on the day of the child birth .

It is not Hazekiah , it’s Jesus , Hazekiah was not referred to as MIGHTY GOD . but Jesus’s God incarnate EMMANUEL.. Hezekiah was not prince of peace , he was not mighty God .

semyman:
Mercy Benjamin is a Blogger and also works as a web developer in Lagos. She was born deeper into life for parents and taken to her verified Facebook page to share her childhood experiences as a member of a deeper life.

Priest Williams Fulloronso Komoye, I respect you as an individual because of the humble and radiant nature you radiate.

If not, I would respect you anyway.

You are one of the people who ruined my childhood.

You are one of the people who made my father so comfortable with poverty, when there were so many opportunities for him to benefit, because of the deceptive preaching, the opportunity was considered a sin. Because of you.

Pastor Kumuyi I respect you as an individual, but I am disappointed with your deception and the audience you lead with him.

In the name of God, hell and sin, people justify their evil deeds.

The road to hell is wide, the road to heaven is narrow.

It gives me peace and I know well, you and all your fans are going to hell created for everyone.

I don't love you.

The Deeper Life Church prohibits the wearing of lace clothing, and it is one of their greatest sins of all time.

We can't forget the time when my dad took three of us to the beat, and he specifically told the tailor to warn us to "make a dress for the three of us", it wasn't funny .

His own way of customizing describes his partner to us the ugliest gowns that gather around the waist.

The old man uses a razor and a comb to scrape our hair.

I've been ugly in much of my life. Don't lie, who we know and then know.

Deeper life hates good things! Anything good is sin.

One disturbing part of this was that all the workers in the church tried to use the exact sound of their Comoy priest and so far they use the same intonation. (Just thinking about it is very embarrassing because my dad was also a servant in the church)

For much of my life, I thought white powder could push me straight to hell. We couldn't even mix properly with people.

I was in college for two years before I could break one point in my ear. I can't forget the guilt I felt for weeks just to do it.

You spellings and punctuations are worse than mine

You can blame anyone for your life . There are some doctrines that are man made but with good intention . Not necessarily to put anyone in bondage , they successfully created an atmosphere of chastity, simplicity and sombriety. You may tell a child not to touch blades , knives and matches because “ they are dangerous “ but it’s for a level of immaturity . When the child mature he learns the use of them . Did the parents lie ? No.

Most churches have rules to help check the brethren . But as you mature you may not need the rules . But they have laid certain foundations of discipline for you . As you embrace greater light in your knowledge you can cast away the lesser light and be grateful for help the discipline has given you .

1 Corinthians 13:11
. . When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Elizersalifu:
1. Only one account in the entire Genesis where Abraham GAVE 1/10th after he returned from war. Observe very carefully that he did not tithe his income but spoils of war.

It rather shows that If he could tithe of the spoil of war he must have been a regular tither . The only reason they could have met there was because . He didn’t want to go home with the spoil do the tithe collector has to meet him . If not he ought to have taken it to the priest .

You don't build doctrine from a single scripture in the Bible.

It’s not one bible verse. tithing was a practice God revealed to Abraham . God himself testified thst Abraham will teach his family his principles

Genesis 18:19
For I have known (chosen, acknowledged) him [as My own], so that he may teach and command his children and the sons of his house after him to keep the way of the Lord and to do what is just and righteous, so that the Lord may bring Abraham what He has promised him.

It was not only Abraham that practice tithing but his household and generation even to the time of Jacob .

Genesis 28:22
. . .and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

2. Keeping an obligation does not really require faith. The law themselves are not of faith and are meant for the unrighteous (Gal 3v12 and 1 Tim 1v9). That's why none of the apostle taught tithing as practised under the law of Moses. Rather, they gave clear instructions on how we should give to support the work of our Father and also to help the needy amongst us.

We dont tithe because of the law . But because it’s a principle revealed to our father of faith . God only re enacted it under the Sinai covenant for the people of Israel because they lost it in Egypt .

3.Why do you observe only the law on tithing while ignoring the others??

Tithes And offerings are eternal principles Just as prayer, worship , offering etc

Have you not read that if you are guilty of one, you are guilty of all

Why do you give offerings , alms and why honor your parents and neglect the tithe

4. In Mt 23, Jesus rebuked the hypocritical pharisees who thought by tithing would attain righteousness. Are you a pharisee? Why did Jesus not teach His followers tithing starting from the sermon on the mount to the last 40days seminar with his disciples after He rose from the dead ?

Jesus may not make tithing a Major topic neither offering . He himself had said they are lesser things . But he still said men should tithe .And he didn’t condemn it as he did of sabbath keeping

5. Jesus did not instruct any of his disciples or followers to PAY tithe. Provide scriptures if you think otherwise.

Mathew 23:23 TLB
. . .You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

6. No Apostle PAID Tithe in the new testament. Show proof if you think otherwise. This should mean something to you if you are a good bible student. Rather, they GAVE THEMSELVES to the work of God.

Then welfare of the ministers in the terbernscle comes from tithes and offerings . Paul let’s us know that the principles still applies

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

7. We are born of the Spirit and our giving should not be limited by percentages. Better to give as led by the spirit than to give under an obligation or by law.

We could have said we are born of the spirit water baptism and communion and fasting are unnecessary . Why do we honor parents ? and still give alms ? The law is only a guide to a principle which already in existence .thats the reason you can find Paul even quoting the law . Principles are constant.

8. Our blessings in Christ are not based on tithing. He finished the work 2000yrs ago and blessed us with all spiritual blessings in Christ even before we entered the world.

True , we give as act of worship and honor .

9. Today, we don't give because we want God to bless us. We give because we are blessed.

Yes , but that doesn’t take away the fact that we lay hold on blessing by our act of obedience and faith , there is grace we access and unlock by actions of faith and obedience . Law of sowing and reaping .

sonmvayina:
God is the creator.. He is outside of space and time,.. He is not part of creation...

It is not possible at all..

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You have to understand what it means to be almighty .

OLAADEGBU:
Would it not be individuals committing that act?

I can’t deny I haven’t faulted but as much as possible I avoid being provoked to such point .

If I saying wickedness is wrong or saying an action is wicked is different from calling you a wicked man

Elizersalifu:
You quoted scriptures yes but out of context. You made the scriptures say what they are not saying.

God has never DEMANDED Tithe from anyone....whether before the law or under the law.

Abraham GAVE 1/10th of spoils not PAID. God did not DEMAND the 1/10th from Abraham. He did based on his volition according to his faith

And what was his faith based upon? . Gods word to him .

While under the law of Moses, it was an obligation. Moses was the one who gave them this instruction.

Under the law Was Offering not and obligation as well , was honoring your father not an obligation as well? Why is it tithe some of tou single out? That only tells me there is something spiritual about the tithe that satan is terrified about.

If you observe very carefully, neither Jesus nor his disciples observed or taught tithing. The reason is because under the new testament, we are asked to give generously and without grudge.

Wrong, jesus encouraged tithing

Matthew 23:23
“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

AntiChristian:
Where is the correction? Of cos I will take it if it's genuine, factual, evidence-based and non-contradictory.

But did Jesus ever call himself God directly in any of his speeches? It's not hard to say "I am God" to people right?

Jesus does not need to say he was God God because that will defeat the purpose of his coming. He didn't come to the earth as God . He humbled himself as man even though he was God.

Phi 2:5 — Phi 2:8
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be[b]equal with God,[/b] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

OLAADEGBU:
Haven't you just judged others with this statement?

I spoke against an act not an individual.

AntiChristian:
No capital letters so we are both correct! Jesus can be a god/God. Great!

You know you're wrong . Just take the correction.

Jn 10:30 — Jn 10:33
I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

AntiChristian:
You Sabi Quote Bible verse

Thanks for the compliment

It was not mighty "God" but "god" in Greek Bible translated to English. Jesus is your god

You're wrong! Firstly the passage was written in Hebrew not Greek, secondly Theres not capital letter

I wonder where he was even called those names in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

Search and acquaint us with your findings

genkins:
I cant believe an adult wrote this baldadash.

I quoted scriptures. Kindly study it again with open mind .

Priestess

It doesn't really matter. As long as those who want to worship God are not restrained .

Nice one Church is not individual. Church is assembly, the body of christ need to assemble without hindrance.

AntiChristian:
Matthew 21:46
New International Version
They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

New Living Translation

Some even believe he was a criminal .It's not about what some people believe of him . its about who he is what the word of God testifies of him

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Closing of churches has opened new way of ministry. Now satan is very frustrated.

1 Corinthians 2:8
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.]

marviebeacinho:
“21 states are open to worship, the other ones have no choice. They should just know that they have no choice.

Yes o they have no choice

HRHQueenPhil:
Prayer...a powerful force if u know how to use it well

Thank you sister

Stephenmoka4:
Thread is heading for faith.
Well the concept of faith i.

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Sure