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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Dies After Placing Hand On Coronavirus Patients by petra1(m): 4:38pm On May 19, 2020
Denique:
Wisdom is profitable to direct...

Covid-19 is really exposing the wolf in sheep clothing pastors who speak to themselves in the mirror and claim God did.

No one is ready for the exposé, trust me.
The breeze is gonna be massive... I doubt the Chicken's Anus can withstand it!

What a time to be alive!!!
Not nice thing to say over the dead. God testimony of him is what count. He stood for what he knows
Christianity Etc › Re: UK Broadcast Agency Sanctioned Pastor Chris Over Coronavirus And 5G Claims by petra1(m): 2:13am On May 19, 2020
Persecution. . . It's only for a short while.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc6_ftzk3w
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 2:11am On May 19, 2020
JustTalks:
Pay your Tithe in your Church where you worship
Yea !
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Not Just For Sending Prophets To Specific Part Of The World by petra1(m): 2:09am On May 19, 2020
Xmuslim:
I challenge all the abrahamic religion to come up with a reasonable explanation as to why God never sent prophets to other continent aside Asia (specifically Jews and Arab)

If he's a just and smart God, he would have sent prophets to all nation.

I know the Muslims will claim that quran talked about it that Allah sent prophets to all nation. This is a smart way for Muhammed to win your heart. Why did God never mentioned their name and the country but he kept repeating the story of jew and Arab prophets in the quran.
Because there only one prophet sent to the world ,JESUS. He is coming back to rule the whole earth
Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie: "No Coronavirus In Nigeria, Politicians Using It To Eat Money" by petra1(m): 2:02am On May 19, 2020
PLS WATCH THIS VIDEO . Let the experts speak to us


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc6_ftzk3w
Health › Re: How Come There Was No Lockdown For Ebola Which Was Deadlier? by petra1(op): 1:59am On May 19, 2020
LordReed:
Sweden with 30k cases and almost 4k deaths is what you want to emulate?
Yes it worked . More scientists are speaking up. The lockdown is unscientific. The virus is not as deadly .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc6_ftzk3w
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Was Right About Forced Vaccination And Build Up To One World Order by petra1(m): 1:56am On May 19, 2020
newmi:
He sure was!
The man is always years ahead of the rest the bunch



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc6_ftzk3w

Now the experts are talking tough and backing their disapproval of everything we have been told to comply with as unscientific and unnecessary with strong legal consequences to follow.
This woman is audacious . Saying the government should open up lockdown and she put her integrity on the line to bare the responsibility.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ibiyeomie Heals Coronavirus Patient Then Says Virus Doesn't Exist In Nige by petra1(m): 8:43pm On May 18, 2020
there is no contradiction. he healed a person diagnosed of the virus. he only generalised the exaggeration going on here . that if nigeria has covid ,Probably one or two cases.; the rest are mostly malaria
Christianity Etc › Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(op): 7:45pm On May 18, 2020
Stephenmoka4:
Thread is heading for faith.
Well the concept of faith is usually applied to man. Instinct is one thing used in the concept of animals in place of faith most times, animals vdo believe X will occur when they do Y. E.g. An animal can put much faith instinct on its tactics to succeed, man could put faith (God) on his work to succeed.
Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Those Who Call Themselves True Men Of God.. by petra1(m): 7:35pm On May 18, 2020
Health › Re: How Come There Was No Lockdown For Ebola Which Was Deadlier? by petra1(op): 7:33pm On May 18, 2020
^^^^^^
There are better solutions
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Better If There Was Just One Church In Christendom? by petra1(m): 6:47am On May 18, 2020
zexy2030:
Good idea but there are many gift and diversities of calling.
Beautiful , there is one church though but different commissions according to their calling as you said which is the dispensation of the gospel given to them

1 Corinthians 9:17
a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 6:24am On May 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Sure, a reference to the whole nation is found in verse 9, but the receivers of the message was not.

God was known to punish the whole nation whenever there was sin found especially among the leaders. In Malachi, God goes into details of how the Levites had corrupted his law and allowed sin all over the land. So it would make sense that the nation would be punished in verse 9.
I dont see a big deal here . This is not the first time God has addressed multiple people in a prophecy. When he addressed the priest he mentioned it. When he addressed the nation he mentioned it. Jeremiah addressed the people and leaders as well

Malachi 1:1
​ The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.


In his message to Israel he addressed the people, he addressed the priests
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 5:08am On May 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Where do you see God switching message recipients in or before verse 7?
Verse 9 was for the nation period
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 11:55pm On May 17, 2020
Kobojunkie:
. . the book of Malachi is directed at the Levites,
He gave the Levite led their messsge . He gave the nation their message . From verse 7 he was addressing the nation .

Malachi 3:9
Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me,
even this whole nation.
Christianity Etc › Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(op): 11:36pm On May 17, 2020
sapreala:
if there were any genu case they would have allowed you to pray for them..
Genuine case you mean?
Christianity Etc › Re: To Those Who Call Themselves True Men Of God.. by petra1(m): 11:29pm On May 17, 2020
ONEarrow:
[/font][font=Lucida Sans Unicode]the fact that you run a church or preach religion does not make you are a man of god,the fact that you added Rev,Pst,Bishop at the beginning of your names does not make you a man of god,the fact that you prayed for someone does not make you a man of god,..Stop deceiving the people,you are only interested in their tithes and offerings..how come none of you saw covid19?..
Many saw Covid 19. Transfer your anger to the devil . Touch not Gods anointed

Acts 23:5
Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 11:21pm On May 17, 2020
evanvick:
tithe is archaic ways of worshipping God. I believe in offering,
Why chose one above the other ? God didnt . If offering is valid, tithe should be valid .

Malachi 3:8
. . .Wherein have we robbed thee?
In tithes and offerings.
Christianity Etc › Re: New Testament: How Many Christians Paid Tithe? by petra1(m): 11:15pm On May 17, 2020
DZTech:
kindly quote the passages.
God bless
How many used the toilet ? Kindly quote the passages
Christianity Etc › Re: How Could Noah Fit 700 Different Species Of Dinosaurs On The Ark? by petra1(m): 11:13pm On May 17, 2020
Horus:
Over 700 different species of dinosaurs have been identified and named.

However palaeontologists believe that there are many more new and different dinosaur species still to be discovered.

How Could Noah Fit 700 different species of dinosaurs on the Ark?
Dinosaurs were already extinct million years before Noah came .
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 11:01pm On May 17, 2020
adedbl:
I did not see in any of your quote where one tenth of cash earned should be given to pastor. Need to be more educated.
Tithes are given to God through and received by high priest . And our high priest is Christ.
Pastors are not tithe collectors . Church money does not belong to pastors . Pastors are tithers . Most pastors have jobs , in many ministries before you’re are sent out to pastor you must have a job . Find out from redeemed or cec or winners . 99% of pastors have jobs and and they don’t earn income From church . It’s only few that may be made to resign from work so as to do full time and such may have some allowances .Just like other church workers . And the Bible ordained that such should have welfare from tithes and offering

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


But. Most pastors are oil workers , bankers , lecturers businessmen etc . They are volunteers .
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 10:13pm On May 17, 2020
omonnakoda:
It is clear I am dealing with a liar .

Is Mathew 23. 23 a command to pay tithes

Why did you cite it partially?
For emphasis . Was the Bible written in chapters .

Jesus was actually criticising them for their pedantic adherence to tithe

He said

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness

That is the full scripture and it is clear what Jesus thinks of tithes

In fact that scripture applies PERFECTLY TO YOU

meditate on THAT
If I have to condescend low to your level I would call you a liar also because you quoted the scriptures partially .

Matthew 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Jesus was teaching them balance . But you LIED! . He wasn’t against tithing . He rather endorsed it and told them not to neglect justice also . Jesus endorses tithing

Matthew 23:23 (TLB
. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone.

Matthew 23:23( Holman Bible $
. . .These things should have been done without neglecting the others.

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 10:01pm On May 17, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Actually it was Paul that made the parallel which you referenced earlier. And no, Abraham gave a tenth of his booty from war to Melchizedek who welcomed him, Abraham, back from war with bread and wine. grin
I thought you like to stick with written word . Don’t Change now . If God says it’s tithe don’t change it for sake of argument . Tithe is a spiritual oblation and it’s given of all income

Genesis 14:20
. . . And he gave him tithes of all.

Genesis 28:22
. . .and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Luke 18:12
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.


Of a land that is not Israel. grin grin
It’s not limited to Isreal . It’s a kingdom principle


- Abraham was not a descendant of Israel.And paul was clear in his address in the book of Hebrew that He was not saying the Law of Sin and Death should be stretched back to include the ancestors of the Isrealites grin grin

Eternal as it was applied in the CONTRACT between God and Israel! The Old Contract is still valid... Jesus only fulfilled it for those who are ready to receive the NEW CONTRACT which is Himself. Those of you who would rather cling to the old are still in business.
Only remember what Jesus said about not putting "new Wine into old Wine Skin" grin grin grin grin
The new testament is offshoot of Abrahamic covenant . Do you know who Abraham is? He is the father of faith . We are his children .

Romans 4:16.
. . but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,


He is not father of the law but father of faith . His justification was not based on the law but covenant of faith

Romans 4:12
And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 9:40pm On May 17, 2020
omonnakoda:
God did not demand tithes of unclean animals. Tithes mentioned in the law apply ONLY to AGRICULTURAL products
Tithe is given of all income . I only use unclean animals as illustration .

God only accept things which can be use by Levite’s other things are redeemed . They pay money value in tithes and offering . They had choices

Matthew 23:23
. . For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens. .

Why would a Jew rear unclean animals. What kind of foolish talk is that.
Is dog , horse , Carmel not unclean animals . Unclean animal means they should not eat it , that doesn’t mean they should not use . Was king David not riding unclean animal (horse)
Jesus rode unclean animal (donkey )

You are busy learning insults instead of learning the Bible

What do you mean how do people give tithe of vegetables what a foolish question.
Matthew 23:23
. . For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens. .


Learn the Bible not insult
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 9:23pm On May 17, 2020
Kobojunkie:
. Paul never actually said that Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek.
You don’t need to Paul to tell you that . The Bible was clear

Genesis 14:20
. . . And he gave him tithes of all.


Secondly Paul did say so

Hebrews 7:6
But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.


after all Melchizedek was a King, and not an actual priest of Israel either. So, yeah!
He was a king and a priest

Genesis 14:18
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.


The old testament covenant, which include the laws on tithing, were defined by God after Moses( not before).
I say you stick to what God stipulates and you won't go astray
Tithes and offerings are eternal principles . If offering is the valid . Tithe is still valid . There’s never a place God put and end to either
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 9:12pm On May 17, 2020
erospecial:
You're a fraudster in the kingdom.
No need for insult . Back up your claim with scriptures or keep quiet

Are you Jews that the obligation were given?
Was Abraham a Jew ? Was Melchizedek a Jew ?

what is the place of Christ in destroying the devourer by his death?
If you and your likes of apostates are not dubious, tell me where in the ministry of Christ from Matthew to John or in the Acts or Episodes that tithe was ever commanded in the new testament to the new Creations?
Given of all kinds is by faith and will!
besides how many of the old testament oblations are you observing except the tithe most of you Yahoo Yahoo pastors and counterfeit followers are holding unto?
If you want to ask a question , ask nicely , I will respond to you . No need to get into personal attacks . I see it as empty manipulation . Go to the Bible and prove your point . No need to do. “You Dey craze , you dey mad “ Empty heads does that do be a Christian and be civililc in your discussion or I won’t respond to you
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 8:59pm On May 17, 2020
omonnakoda:
I am still trying to work out whether you are illiterate or a liar

Leviticus 27 .27 Has NOTHING TO DO WITH TITHES. This is about pledges made voluntarily
Leviticus 27. 31 is about the obligation to Tithe AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS and the redemption of such tithes.
And What do you understand by redemption? . It is the giving of money in place .

How do people give tithes of vegetable or of other unclean animal

It is clear that TITHES ARE ABOUT AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Nothing Else
Was Abraham tithe to Melchizedek agricultural product ?

He gave tithes of all . Tithe is given of all.

Why are you so dishonest
The word of God doesn’t require insult and abuse . Deal with scriptures or keep quiet
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 8:49pm On May 17, 2020
chijokz:
No mention of Yahshua and his Apostles preaching or collecting tithes.
No mention they collected offering either so we should not give to God at all then .
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe In The Church by petra1(m): 8:46pm On May 17, 2020
evanvick:
Tithes are for the levites. Do we still have levites today?
Was Melchizedek a Levite ? Tithe existed before the Levite’s . And there’s no place God commanded it to end . If offering is still valid , tithe is still valid . God says you rob me in offering and tithe . You can’t chose one above the other. As long as there’s a high priest . Christ is our high priest in the order of Melchizedek
Christianity Etc › Re: Exposed!!! The Genuine Vs Counterfeit Speaking In Tongues by petra1(m): 8:39pm On May 17, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Look again!
Romans 8 mentions nothing of the act of speaking in tongues. It does not refer to it because language is used for use to communicate. However, the Spirit of God himself DOES NOT require language in communicating His Mind with God. That is why Paul tells you that the intercession the Spirit does on our behalf is with unuttered groanings(NO WORDS hence no language)
Beautiful that’s my point , the groaning is another level of praying in the spirit . Praying with deep sigh . It’s beyond words , most spirit filled intercessors do experience it. There are also times you wake up in the middle of the night and a string burden for prayer comes on you and you don’t know what it’s about you find yourself praying in the spirit in tongues or groaning or crying but it’s not deliberate it’s the way the spirit expresses himself at such times but don’t miss the point , if groaning like someone in pain has meaning to God . What you call gibberish has meaning to God . It’s same principle




In Romans 8, Paul speaks of what we need to know of the SPirit of God, not our individual spirits; and certainly not about the gifts that the spirit bestows on those He lives on the inside of. Let us, in our haste to find truth, becareful not to read our own desires into what is written.[/quote]
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 8:27pm On May 17, 2020
omonnakoda:
Which of these is Cash

The only tithe I see is AGRICULTURAL products
They had the option of cash . If someone want to give money as tithe or offering .

Those who rare unclean animals usually give money because you can’t bring unclean animals like dog, cat, horse , Carmel etc . You give money equivalent ,

Also if the animal had wound you have to give money instead . It is called redemption .

And also you don’t bring perishable crops or things to God except dry grains other things such as vegetables are sold and money were given as tithes Or offering

REDEMPTION

Leviticus 27:31
And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.

Leviticus 27:27
27 If it be of an unclean animal, the owner may redeem it according to your valuation, and shall add a fifth to it; or if it is not redeemed, then it shall be sold according to your valuation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can I Pay My Tithe To My Church And Widows According To Deuteronomy 26:12? by petra1(m): 4:36pm On May 17, 2020
omonnakoda:
You cannot post these lies without references for each claim

Specifically tell us where the bible commands the tithe "for God " separately from what you call "picnic"
The tithe to God is the one We learnt from abraham

TITHE TO THE LORD
Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.


THE TITHE FOR FEAST
(Deut. 14:22-27).
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.

TITHE FOR THE POOR
Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest..

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