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Rilamaka: http://www.uhb.nhs.uk/board-of-directors.htm

That's a NURSE led hospital in England, so Mr consultant pediatrician what's your point? Can you name any hospital in Nigeria that can stand shoulder to shoulder with that hospital that has a Nurse as the CMD?

Please stop embarrassing yourself. You are clearly egotistic nothing else.

Sagamite: Considering what I know of most Nigerian doctors, if I ever fall ill while in Nigeria, as long as I can still move, I am effing flying out ASAP.

I no wan die.

And no point going private to be charged an arm and a leg for minimal quality in Nigeria's private sector when I can get super quality for nothing in the UK.

When my parents are ill in Nigeria, I fly them out ASAP, instead of wasting my money on quacks and mediocres in Nigeria.

prettyprettywow: Chai, it is true that young men shall dream dreams. Dream on. na you get your sleep

Morotov1: This is Nigerian factor .........and adding failure of an exam up there isn't putting you in good light.
Your curriculum says
6 years of medical school
1 year housemanship
4-6years of residency
others also attend NYSC so it is not exclusive only for doctors, waiting for 6 years before confirmation is African mediocrity. Roughly 13 years.....I must say.

chucs: please don't display ignorance here cuz anybody can be sued for anything in this world.. I suggest u consult your lawyer.

Morotov1: What exactly are you arguing about ? That when these guys make mistake doctor will get sued?
Are they practising medicine for the doctor to be sued?
When a nurse , pharmacists and the rest commits any form of malpractice or an act of negligence when carrying out their duties.....they are sued based on that and their license most times are revoked.
Check out the instances where they are sued on the WWW.

prettyprettywow: Then you people should go and leave us alone with Govt. Nobody is forcing you to stay with the Govt owned hospitals. Haba! Better still, you can migrate to US, UK, or Canda make we hear word

Abraham2013: Answer d above questions 1st

Abraham2013: Link to wetin? R u not aware dat nurses, pharmacist, physiotherapist, lab scientist, radiographers hav professional license?

VantagePoint: I have seen this table before, and it actually refers to the salary of GPS, hence the term country doctors or rural doctors.
A orthopedic surgeon for example earns an average of 413, 000 USD per annum.
We all know resident doctors even in Nigeria earn well below some ADNs and DDNs; Nigerian doctors are not being overpaid.
On a salary of 45, 000 USD, that's a take home pay of roughly #500, 000naira. How much is the take home pay of a senior registrar in Nigeria?

ziga: I can see children dying means absolutely nothing to you.

And this reflects the mindset of a few selfish Nigerians, as well as the mindse of the people who lead us!!!

okparaugo: It is a very big shame when all a person can achieve is running after increased pay when he/she could better his own pay via private practice.

It is not uncommon to see multimillionaire doctors and pharmacits who through private practice have dwarfed government pay and bettered their lives...

Every time we be hearing this noise. Smh..

ArabianPrince: SagaShit....Lol. Yelling moronic person.

I live in the UK and I have been working in Janitor roles most of my career of about 3.5 years.I am contemplating the opportunity of moving back to Nigeria and working in errand running within any industry.My questions are:
1) Is this seen as an important and elite function in Nigeria as it is in UK?
2) What is the Salary range I should be looking at for this function and at what grade should I accept from recruiters?(N.B: I have done this for blue chip firms. Please ; any opinion on this should indicate what industry (if possible, the company) the figures you are quoting are for)
3) Which industries are vacancies likely to be available in?Considering that am not educable or trainable.
4) I am only a drop out No Waec, BSc. No Masters, MBA or Phd but with the reputation of the firms that have recruited me in this janitor positions in the UK, I find lack of these qualifications has been no major hinderance for me in the UK. Would lack of these be an issue in Nigeria?
5) What are the work hours like for janitors/errand staff officials in Nigeria?.

Having fun.....

Sagamite: Rubbish!

Ask phantom, that is the fault of the patient.

If the patient does not agree to this, let them sue.

Such cannot be the fault of the medical staff because these things (as ArabianPrince would tell you), on highest average, happens to patients in Nigeria.





LWTMB!

Saga, you are a wicked baaastard!

Abraham2013: Come which bush dey dey talk all dis nonsense wey u dey talk self? Am guessing sambisa forest. Who told dat nurses and other practitioners r not sued in nigeria? Abi na ur name dey 4 dere license? Abi na NMDC dey issue everybody license for the whole medical profession?
Word of advice, if u know wetin u go talk, u blow whistle.

IdomaLikita: It is totally unfair for any "person"(with kind permission from Emperor Sagamite the Great) to come here and Chastise the Drs without even Reading the complete Demands of the NMA. More than 10 valid demands were raised and Relativity of Salary is just ONE of several. The so-called Insurance you mentioned is captioned in the NMA Demands! They clamour for 100% insurance cover for all Nigerians for christ sake, I remember how the NMA single-handedly fought for the NHIS (which covers about 30% of Nigerians now) and got it. Too bad, the same Nigerians who are beneficiaries of this struggle now join to call Drs villains!
NMA calls for a Total Infrastructural Overhaul of Nigerian Hospitals, before going to work, yet Nigerians hate them for asking for this! Nobody knows how sad it is to lose a Patient because of lack of Oxygen in the Tanks or absence of DC-converters or even AMBU bags!

In Nigeria, the Govt is the largest provider of Healthcare to its citizens, thus MUST be held accountable for the decay! We are complaining about the decay in Urban centers, how about our rural centers (where 70% of Nigerians source Healthcare), who is speaking for them? The NMA.

Who amongst the Posters here have gone to St. Nicholas, Premium, etc and received Sub-optimal treatment? Are these not in Nigeria? Are they not listed in the NHIS? Are the Drs and Support staff there Expatriates? Is there any Rancour?


It is sad that JOHESU wishes to dwell more on the issue of pay and title which to me is egocentric! Present additional Qualification and Claim your Pay! Nobody would stop that!
I HAVE ALWAYS HELD A SENIOR MATRON IN AWE because I know she embodies experience which has bailed us out of a lot of situations together!
However, A thousand years of experience as an MBBS holder cannot make you a consultant! You must write gruelling Post-graduate exams and PASS them before holding that title! If NCNM. or the PFN had pursued this goals individually as professional bodies, they might have stood a chance! But lumping up with CHEWS, Records Staff, Cleaners etc simply portrayed their move as a Money-driven one!

Either way, all parties should solve the Impasse ASAP abeg! Politicians are getting fatter from scavenging the corpse of Dying Nigerians!

shymexx: Phantom-brain, why did you name-drop my handle in this crap?

You're a bi.tch and a cornball. You jock me everywhere in this byt.ch, you slimy phag with a phantom-brain.

Stop jocking me, byt.ch!

Gabygaby: CONSULTANT IN NIGERIA EVEN CHARGE MORE THAN US,HAVE YOU OR UR RELATION BEEN TO ANY NIGERIA HOSPITAL WHERE CONSULTANT IS REQUIRED IN YOUR CASE? a consultant in Garki general hospital Abuja charge us 300,000.00 naira just to handle a bone fracture ,( one leg) this outside hospital bill that took about 200,000 naira again. Majority of Doctor in Nigeria are too greedy .every one of them want to have a private hospital,no one want to serve the nation. under this development,are they not paid well? and even they do not, do they deserve pity hence their poor service and lack of commitment? I personally doubt if they do until they change.

ArabianPrince: Haha....Consultant. Yelling person on public forum. Once others view are not same as yours...means they are person. Because you put your location as London don't mean people who don't do same are in the village.

So only Uk Doctors are sane?.....Am sure Nigerian Doctors practicing in the Uk are reading your moronic post. It is only a local e-diot that spews trash like yours.
Bilewu...no excuse for a "F..ucktard yelling self acclaimed shiit head consultant. You asked for it...... Sperm burping peckham street thug.

Sagamite: This is the person that thinks he is underpaid compared to Western doctors?

A sane professional, like the ones we have in the UK, would think about patient care and start exploring how to collate the errors, do some root-cause analysis and then talk about solving the problem.

But this person of Nigeria says "Fck you, sue us if you want".

Sagamite: person, that is all you have to say now.

No more essence?

You see, I am right again. Next time, learn never to step to Sagamite, he is ALWAYS right and will always humiliate you.

skelewu74: You really cannot separate the case of ONE house officer making error from that of his qualifications affording him the central role in patients management. Mind you, an house officer is under training, and that's expected of him if he makes mistakes. In fact even more glaring errors than that is anticipated. The housemanship period is when you are "supposed" to commit errors and learn from it. We learn on the job everytime. It's only when he's unyielding to suggestions or he displays a wilful ignorance that he can be surmounted. I am very sure that if you had reported him, nothing would have happened.

If anything, that even really emphasises the fact that only those who understand how the shoe hurts should be made the authority. A CMD who knew he had make more terrible mistakes too when he was an house officer would understand and not over react. I want to also remind you that the guys error does not mean he has "nothing" upstairs as you erroneously claimed. It only shows that the field is very broad, and details are too many to learn. That's Medical practice, my brother. If you were in it, you would experience the same.

I would only advise that you are not interested in picking at someone's errors especially out of personal vendettas. You would always see people commit errors, but can't spend all of your time on that, as it doesn't strengthen your own uprightness.

oshytayman: Why are you people disturbing yourselves? There must be relativity in salaries and other health workers are not fighting against it. The op is a real mumu for posting this. Aren't there better n more pressing issues to be addressed? What about the lack of sophisticated medical equipment in our hospitals which has made docs to be unproductive (mind u, if given the needed facilities they would perform better)? Wake up from your slumber, Mr op and stop majoring on the minor. May God help us in this nation.

Sagamite: This is the person that thinks he is underpaid compared to Western doctors?

A sane professional, like the ones we have in the UK, would think about patient care and start exploring how to collate the errors, do some root-cause analysis and then talk about solving the problem.

But this person of Nigeria says "Fck you, sue us if you want".

armadeo: It might be a visual/ auditory hallucination. Only him saw it happen!!

YourHealthlabs: You say you work at UPTH abi?, i know a colleague there , physicians don't dare mess with. If i call his name, you'll know.
But let me keep his name away from google search. If he reads reads my comments, he'll know me.

armadeo: Once you cross the path pharm level you do not fail out. However you nay be there till second coming if you don't pass.

johnkent: What do you mean by peanuts? An average primary care physician here in the states makes atlesst $140k/year minimum. That doesn't sound like peanut to me!!!

Morotov1: Check 2013 or recent bureau of labour statistics of United states website on Registered Nurse salary( with BSN degree) and nurse practitioners ( these are the ones with masters and DNP degree). Can't copy and paste with my device.

Sagamite: person, someone certified you as a doctor?

No wonder the life expectancy in Nigeria is in the early 50s.

Now I get it, in a person's view, the essence is not 'value for money' in the public sector. The government should just throw the money away at inferior productivity and products.

God save Nigeria.

Moronic nation, moronic people!