₦airaland Forum

YourHealthlabs: Whatever you pay your doctors in your private hospital is your business. If i decide to employ locum doctors and pay them N30,000 in my clinic, you can puke. It's my business. The Doctor can look elsewhere.

Fashola employs locum/contract Docs. Go to the Lasg H.S.C at broad street and see how they jostle for the crumbs.... do they have a choice? bloody NO!

YourHealthlabs: My brother please stop deceiving gullible Nigerians,your pathologists can not differentiate between Serratia sp and klebsiella sp, they can not decipher the meanings of CLED, NYCA, MSA except they consult a Clinical Scientist grounded in principles, methodology and Clinical interpretation of Medical laboratory tests and willing to lecture them during clinical seminars.
Nigerians heard about the UBTH CMD that spilled 18 pcv samples from the emergency ward, trying to do a less technical but very important job of an experienced lab assistant.
Your Pathologists are lazy and 'Wardophobic' (my words), they are MBBS graduates who hate going to the wards so they seek the easy way out 'camping' in laboratories. I don't believe they should earn fat pays for scribbling down words like 'hyperglycemia in HTN patient with known DM, please check glycosylated HB' Clinical Scientists can do that and even more. A B.mls Scientist can do a blood film and do his reporting- 'Hypochromic, Normocytic anaemia' without the help of a Pathologist. He's trained for that.
American Govt. are training Clinically inclined Doctors of CLS (D.cls) to cut cost and do away with overpaid govt-employed paths in the Medicaid/medicare structure.

Hope you heard what happened at FMC asaba? Scientists dragged your Pathologists to court challenging the legality of their 'lordship' over Scientists which is at variance with MLSCN act under the law. The Scientists won,of course the law is clear. You can't head the LABORATORY Dept. You can go to the mortuary and create your Pathology department.
B.MLS are degree holders just like you and will break any articificial glass ceiling you place over their professional advancement.

Your radiologists can not prepare films and imagings, they collect fat pays 800k-1m as consultants and report to work only twice a month, delegating their duties to neonate house officers.

Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria under JOHESU have the ability to cause nationwide scarcity of drugs. They will simply liase with NApmed and idumota and that's it.

All over the world there are Consultant Pharmacists, Consultant BioMedical Scientists, Consultant Physios. Nigeria will not be an exception. JOHESU must take everything it's professionals deserve this time.

zomby: All Nigerian corrupt leaders should be condemned together regardless of which part of the country they are from.
I just see no common sense in defending a corrupt leader simply because he's from my village. This type of absurd mentality will not take us anywhere even if we try...I think Nigerians should be enlightened enough to understand the importance of unity to fight corruption accordingly in Nigeria if we want things to change for better.

People like Orji Kalu should not be entertained even if his n@ked pictures were posted. He is not a successful businessman or a role model, he remains one of the criminals that stole from us.

0key: ^^^
Paediatrician, Psychiatrist, Neurosurgeon etc are all specialists. They are not resident doctors. Resident doctors are the ones undergoing training to become consultants(specialists). When they become consultants, the total hours of training is factored into their salary .

Note, the stated salaries of allied health workers are for their most senior staff.

Meanwhile, d relatively must be restored or let the health institutions be privatised. U have to earn according to ur input

zomby: @ Phantom
If Orji is your man and inspiration, may God bless you.
But from what I know and have seen, Orji is not even close. He is a typical okrika man who has no taste, no action and no vision.

Do you even believe that this man is still trying to get back into politics? For what? To steal more money?
Real big boys don't need to be a governor to make money or to feel relevant.
Again, Orji Kalu will not be respected until he has what it takes to rub shoulders with real Nigerian big boys like Mike Adenuga, Dangote and many others.

Sorry.

ilugunboy: Simple...you can't compare...because there is just no reason to do so.

In the SW...the old part of the towns and the sparkling brand new areas live side by side....just like in most northern towns of Nigeria.

It's only the East that have no historical infrastructures that predates the 1920's that they could point to....and it was not that they were leveled by war, it is simply that Ibos started the art of building houses after the civil war. Prior then...the best were thatched roof mud houses...while most live in the bushes and forest.

zomby: This man is a great example of a jobless bushman.
You need nothing but your actions to prove that you're a big boy.

For the past 8 years this man hasn't done anything constructive to positively impact the development of this country. And this is simply because majority of his wealth was accumulated when he was the governor of Abia State.
I guess, this is a sign that he is mentally bored and has nothing better to do, but take pictures to show Nigerians that he is still relevant.

Could someone please tell this joker that we are not impressed until he starts rubbing shoulders with people like Dangote, Mike Adenuga and other real big boys, who clearly understand what needs to be done to get this country back on track...

ilugunboy: I know a pathetic scum like you as usual will always spring up to his defence.

Orji Uzor is one of those reasons that people still molest you by telling you to go back to your villages....but they know you can't.

Even in the midst of Boko killings...rather than go to the East...most still find their way west ward.

I know Abia....and not just Aba with the palms of my hand...it's a shytee-hole. One town state (a very horrible stinking town of Aba)....after several years of creation, the state capital is still a One-Main road glorified village.

ketoprofen: @ Sloan, does that long epistle justify what tinubu is doing SW IGR?
Is thar y ur states are backward?

if u want to hug a transformer because orji uzor is swimming in his house, enjoy!

0key: Salary issue is another area we have to consider. Salary is worked out based on the nature of d profession, job evaluation, total hours of schooling, total hours of work input. In d medical profession, surgeons earn more than physicians in US,Britain n other developed countries. Other allied health professionals earn far less than d physicians. The lowest salary is earned by Paediatrician/ psychiatrist ( average of $200,000 per annum) while the highest salary is received by Orthopaedic surgeon/ Neurosurgeon/ Cardiothoraxic Surgeons (average of $550,0000 per annum).

Nurses receive average salary of $90,000 per annum, pharmacist is on average salary of $110,000per annum, Physiotherapist $75,000, Lab scientists receive 75-80,000 per annum.

The salary disparity should be addressed ASAP following the relativity ( or ratio) stated above. Lets encourage d ongoing revolution in the healthcare system to bring the much needed change.

bumfem: For your information, nobody is out on superiority contest here. Health professionals are the most satisfied with there job among various career in Nigeria. There is no doubt about that. Google across the world you will find same thread. You may check CNN most satisfying profession 2012/13. So JOHESU members are very happy people.
But, how do you handle NMA telling govt to withdrawal our allowances using the minister of health, that govt should stop recognizing health professionals as ''consultant'' against international norm, that only doctors must head hospitals in nigeria against best practices globally, that skipping of level 10 should stop despite years of collective agreement on it. That our specialists who are already being paid specialist allowance should be delisted.I can go on and on.

There may not be peace in health sector until NMA become realistic in its thought and embrace global beast practices.

Yemmy78....u can see no one is in superiority match here. Aferall there is no major diff in doctors salary and that of health professionals.......COMMESS vs CONHESS educated u more on this.
So why should NMA be having trouble with others structure and welfare.?

bumfem: For your information, nobody is out on superiority contest here. Health professionals are the most satisfied with there job among various career in Nigeria. There is no doubt about that. Google across the world you will find same thread. You may check CNN most satisfying profession 2012/13. So JOHESU members are very happy people.
But, how do you handle NMA telling govt to withdrawal our allowances using the minister of health, that govt should stop recognizing health professionals as ''consultant'' against international norm, that only doctors must head hospitals in nigeria against best practices globally, that skipping of level 10 should stop despite years of collective agreement on it. That our specialists who are already being paid specialist allowance should be delisted.I can go on and on.

There may not be peace in health sector until NMA become realistic in its thought and embrace global beast practices.

Yemmy78....u can see no one is in superiority match here. Aferall there is no major diff in doctors salary and that of health professionals.......COMMESS vs CONHESS educated u more on this.
So why should NMA be having trouble with others structure and welfare.?

yemmy75: www.nairaland.com/1578353/fg-agrees-appoint-surgeon-general-federation

dBard: BMSH. UPTH as well I think.
All physicians do is ask for nu complaints ?? Do U know how Blatantly Ignorant u sound ?? I won't even justify that statement with an answer.
The only advice I will give to u is to, one day, run a theatre session wit a surgeon n see how 'Easy' d work is.
If u don't know..Nurses these days do not do more than taking vital signs, administering drugs (mostly oral sef cos d I.v's r a Drs duty) n making sure d patient is comfy..not taking anything away from them..anything more than that n d Drs on call r called.
Do u want t compare d hours ?? A typical Dr shift is from 8 to 4 minus call duties n emergencies..no day offs. Nurses run shifts wit day offs , public hols etc..same wit All d oda health workers. Tell me, if d pay is according to work hours who will get more, much more?
Drs do a lot more than they're appreciated for.
Ask d wives of Drs n maybe you'll 've an inkling of wat they go thru instead of coming t display ur ignorance.

Bottom line.. A Dr has enuff knowledge to play d role /work in d capacity of everyother health worker. How many physiotherapists or nurse can accurately diagnose any ailment outside their limited scope.??

Drs have and WILL Always be d head of a medical team if u don't like it, am sure there is a lagoon or transformer nearby, u can do d needful.
Peace

Samgreguc: eihya. . . . The apothecary profession was created by the physician.




Pls, dont say dis where u can b physically seen or else ?

Samgreguc: look at this one o. Who is against us Surgeon general? Me? U failed!


If I wanted to be a Physician, I would av applied Med. Surg. But, I choosed that sweetie called ________. (fill in d blank space)

dozzybaba: -I see JOHESU shutting down all Public/private hospital pharmacies. No more drugs for patients.

-I see JOHESU shutting down all Nursing services. No more nursing care for patients that pee and poo on their beds.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Physiotherapy clinics. Motor/Okada accident patients undergoing rehabilitation will be in pains.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Radiography departments. Physical therapy can not commence without Imaging and X-ray.

-I see JOHESU shutting all laboratories including Blood banks. Women in labor, Pre-operative patients, accident victims and Neonates with jaundice may not survive this.


May God avert all these....but if these Professionals are unimportant and useless, JOHESU won't be this powerful.

JOHESU is a NMA's 'frankeinstein creature'. Their overbearing attitudes were their tools.

Peace!

Myriam164: i am still waiting to hear from anyonw about nicosan and how to get it.. please help