₦airaland Forum

Myself2:
Of all the people that defected from the PDP to APC in 2014, Ortom case was the most miserable.
Buhari and the Fulani cabal rewarded him with massive blood let and butchering of his people. Can't remember the number of times re wept on TV over Fulani herdsmen killings of his people.The killers even dared him and ordered him to reverse the anti-grazing bill, lawfully crafted and passed by the state house of assembly.Walahi Buhari and his brothers did Ortom shaygay

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No,PDP sponsored killers did their job so well that they succeded in confusing Ortom.

With George Akume in Benue APC Ortom stand no chance before and has no option but to try his luck in PDP but i don't think he will go for that second term

Merimental:
Anoda day,anoda VICTORY for Pdp....Oshomole rite nw

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I hope when APC transfer day comes,you will not cry and be quoting laws.
A coin has two side.

Very soon you will see those joining APC from PDP.

Let PDP pick their presidential candidate first.

maestroferddi:
You are a dull student...

What does it tell you that after the blatant and rigging of the Ekiti election, politicians are deserting the sinking ship called APC?

Your temporary compromised victory in Ekiti is supposed to galvanize members of APC but things are falling apart...

Yoruba Muslim, chai na who do you?

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Lol.
Funny that you have been brainwashed and can not reason properly.

Among those politicians that decamped,which of them is in the good books of their governors?

Most of them have been told by their governors to forget about coming back in 2019 and they only decamp to try their luck in PDP and other parties because they have no option because this governors will make sure they lose their senatorial primary elections before even the main election.

Is it possible to win a senatorial or rep seat now in Nigeria when you are against your state governor who party control your state and and aso rock?

Do you think Shehu sani stand any chance in APC with El-rufai controlling Kaduna APC?

Do you think Dino stand any chance in Kogi with governor Bello controlling APC in kogi?

None of them stand any chance in 2019 and they only join PDP and other parties to try their luck.

Well,those defectors have no option,not that they really wanted to move.

They were forced and chased out by their governors and state party leaders..

AK481:
U forgot to add that the north central people wants to live and no die, because of the death and killing by herdsman ,they want change.

And majority of the north central people know that this killer herdsmen are being sponsor by those that lost power in 2015 to discredit the present government.

At the end,we will know if those that Buhari is behind it or those who believe PDP is behind it.

Wait,is Atiku,Kwakwoso,Lamido,Dankwabo etc that your PDP may present not Fulanis and Muslim like Buhari too?

maestroferddi:
Buhari in Kogi State... Don't be a clown.

Nobody in their right mind would cast a vote for the disaster called Buhari.

You are too daft to see the revolt building across the nation against clueless tyranny...

lol.
We heard all this before Ondo,Anambra and Ekiti elections that nobody in his right mind will cast their votes for Buhari party but we all saw the results.

Not everybody are as foolish as the 5% people.
We know what is going on and at the end,majority will carry the day

Islie:
http://thenationonlineng.net/defections-the-drama-the-facts/

You forget to add that APC now control Kogi,Ondo and Ekiti state unlike in 2015.

Also add that PDP don't have anybody like Tinubu in southwest.

I see a walk over victory for APC and Buhari in 2019

George Akume at work.
He has put his boy and the next move now is to impeach governor Ortom immediately the governor announce his defection.

Tokziby:
What do I think?

I feel like crying cos these are the type of achievement we should be celebrating not a locomotive train of 186km distance that took up to 10 years to complete.

Also we are about 50years behind this people and my generation may not witness such milestone except a miracle of a person like Ghadaffi or Rawlings takes power and wipe away all this APChits and Pidipigs polithiefians away. then set us on the part of greatness.

Lol.
You think China got here over night?

Nigeria and China are not mate in time of anything,age,population etc.

We will get there some days.

Reference:
He too moved from the CPC to the APC when it was clear he couldn't win there. They are all the same. Its just about power to enable corruption.

He didn't move,CPC and other parties formed APC.
Get your facts.

adadike:
I used to think that u dare not say a thing against Buhari with the kind of followership he enjoys in the north but now I see that the reverse is d case. Even northerners are now wiser

Just like I thought not even one person will vote Buhari or APC in Otueke Jonathan home in 2015.
But APC and Buhari still got some votes there.

So,you think Kwakwoso don't have friends,family members and associates that will still support him in Kano?

ChangetheChange:

Oshiomole will be weeping this night, they brought him to carry out the burial of APC

Get your facts Mr man.
APC still have the majority ok
No shaking

Alva2018:
Some will still move to PDP, the film never end

And some will still move to APC soon.
A coin has two side

No shaking.
The enemies within are out.
Buhari till Jesus come

I LOVE PMB.
THE BATTLE LINE HAS BEEN DRAWN NOW.
THE ENEMIES WITHIN ARE OUT.
THANK YOU JESUS.

spafu:
For the umpteenth time , I say to you Buhari never won these elections he and people like you want us to believe. My parents are from Edo state, I was burn and raised in Kaduna, had my university education in Jos and served in Magumeri LGA of Borno state between March 2010 - February 2011. Before then, I had served as an AD Agent at Kankia Polling Unit of Ungwan Sarki during the 1999 Gubernatorial elections conducted by Abdulsalam Abubakar, an election I got beaten up for refusing to sell the remaining ballots papers for multiple thumb printing. In the 2010/11 Voters registration which I participated, I turned down requested request to register underage (I must count myself lucky to have been retained in Magumeri town, where I was already renowned to be principled and unbending) but those corpers sent deep into the villages had no option than to register 7year olds. From all I have give you above you should know how mulch I know about elections in the north. And did you actually believed that any corper allowed manipulation of votes against Buhari? Common, be real man. Even me who was born and raised among the Hausas, even bear a Hausa name and speak like one Will not try that talk more of Southern Corpers who already dreaded the north.
If you are able to answer these questions below, you may understand why the people of Baluchi killed those corpers and many others even when their candidate had won:
1. Do you remember the Miss World crises of 2002 in Kaduna? Why did some people began to kill another people over a newspaper article by a Lagos bases based Thisday Newspaper female journalist?
2. Where were a particular set of always threatening to avenge for the killings of their brothers (Palestinians) on some others whom they see as Israelites?
Now, there are 19 northern states and 17 southern states, I want you to tell me from 2003 -2011, with his antecedent, which Southern state could Buhari won?
But here I will give you the Northern states he couldn't have won and those he could with slim margin:
1. Plateau
2. Taraba
3. Benue
4. Kogi (slim/loss)
5. Kaduna (slim/win)
6. Niger (slim/win)
7. Nasarawa (slim)
Having gotten a minimum of three northern States, why will anyone rig Buhari? But even if done, it is neutralize the ones being done by Ali Modu Sheriff and Ibrahim Shekarrau of Borno and Kano respectively.
If in an I got 200 real votes and you 180 real votes, then you got 120 illegal votes and I also get 130 illegal votes, who is the rigger here? That's the mistake GEJ made while APC were rigging Kano he choose not to do same.
About Tinubu being greedy, he was eyeing the VP for himself, it was on the eleventh hour that conceded it to his protégé (this ways made known by Buhari.

Well,I am also from Edo state in Etsako east and I was born and raised in the north too,I did all my schooling up to secondary school in the north then did my higher institution in the south and came back to serve in the north.
I have a northern name attached to my name too even though I am a Christian, my dad very good Muslim friend gave me that name.

And within this years because my in-law that I grew up with was a pastor,we stayed in most northern states due to transfer from one northern state to another.

I watched people being killed with my eyes in all those Kaduna crises.

So,I don't think you know the north better than me because all the Kaduna crises happen in my presence.

You do based all your points on propagandas and assumptions.

2011 post election violence had nothing to do with miss world crises or what ever.

Those corpers were used to rigged that election and it was unfortunate that they lost their lives in the process.


It was as simple as ABCD because I guess if I had gone with the plan they gave us in Bauchi then,I don't know if I will be here typing this.

Sometimes i laugh when you guys talk about underaged voters and I do ask this question.
Why do you guys always think that the underage voters do always vote the opposition or Buhari?

Both PDP and APC do harvest from underage voters in the north and I don't know why you guys will think all registered under age voters do vote Buhari and APC only.

Where ever this parties have strong base,they both register underage voters.

So,underage voters do cancel each others out in the north from both PDP,APC and other parties.

If the south do rig with underage voting,I think I will prefer it to the rigging will do with guns,weapons and killings.

I will tell you that in a free and fair election that nobody dead or alive can defeat Buhari in those states you mentions above because the man made a name for himself when he was a military commandant,military governor in some of this northern states and when he was also PTF chairman.

You can still go to some hospital stores in the north now and still see some ptf stuffs there.

For him to still put up such impressive figures in some of those northern states should tell you that he was rigged out because it is not always easy coming up against the ruling party.

It would have still be the same story if not for card readers in 2015.

Have you asked yourself why ODP and his members were in court up to the eve of the 2015 election asking the court yo stop the use of card readers,?


It was simple as APC,while you think that APC were rigging Kano with underage voting which I think both APC and PDP benefit from,PDP were busy rigging Rivers and most south south and south east states with thugs abd the nation security agencies.

So,the rigging cancelled each other out if that is what you think.
But I don't think it is easy to rig a ruling party out in any election in Nigeria.

I just think and still believe that Jonathan and PDP rigging helped in reducing the margin that Buhari would have used to defeat Jonathan.

Why did your Yaradua complained about the election that brought him to power in 2007?

Give me the answer and we continue from there.

Tinubu and everybody know that Abiola and Kingibe ticket was always going to be the last think that you will have s one religion ticket in Nigeria.

If anybody cone to tell you that Tinubu was expecting a VP slit with a Muslim president,tell that person he is a liar.

Tinubu was only looking for having his boy as VP and then go for the presidency when it is turn for the south in 2023.
Call it greed,he got what he want and he us currently the most powerful person in Nigeria now.

His boy is VP and others are holding key position in this government.

[quote author=spafu post=69655428]For the umpteenth time , I say to you Buhari never won these elections he and people like you want us to believe. My parents are from Edo state, I was burn and raised in Kaduna, had my university education in Jos and served in Magumeri LGA of Borno state between March 2010 - February 2011. Before then, I had served as an AD Agent at Kankia Polling Unit of Ungwan Sarki during the 1999 Gubernatorial elections conducted by Abdulsalam Abubakar, an election I got beaten up for refusing to sell the remaining ballots papers for multiple thumb printing. In the 2010/11 Voters registration which I participated, I turned down requested request to register underage (I must count myself lucky to have been retained in Magumeri town, where I was already renowned to be principled and unbending) but those corpers sent deep into the villages had no option than to register 7year olds. From all I have give you above you should know how mulch I know about elections in the north. And did you actually believed that any corper allowed manipulation of votes against Buhari? Common, be real man. Even me who was born and raised among the Hausas, even bear a Hausa name and speak like one Will not try that talk more of Southern Corpers who already dreaded the north.
If you are able to answer these questions below, you may understand why the people of Baluchi killed those corpers and many others even when their candidate had won:
1. Do you remember the Miss World crises of 2002 in Kaduna? Why did some people began to kill another people over a newspaper article by a Lagos bases based Thisday Newspaper female journalist?
2. Where were a particular set of always threatening to avenge for the killings of their brothers (Palestinians) on some others whom they see as Israelites?
Now, there are 19 northern states and 17 southern states, I want you to tell me from 2003 -2011, with his antecedent, which Southern state could Buhari won?
But here I will give you the Northern states he couldn't have won and those he could with slim margin:
1. Plateau
2. Taraba
3. Benue
4. Kogi (slim/loss)
5. Kaduna (slim/win)
6. Niger (slim/win)
7. Nasarawa (slim)
Having gotten a minimum of three northern States, why will anyone rig Buhari? But even if done, it is neutralize the ones being done by Ali Modu Sheriff and Ibrahim Shekarrau of Borno and Kano respectively.
If in an I got 200 real votes and you 180 real votes, then you got 120 illegal votes and I also get 130 illegal votes, who is the rigger here? That's the mistake GEJ made while APC were rigging Kano he choose not to do same.
About Tinubu being greedy, he was eyeing the VP for himself, it was on the eleventh hour that conceded it to his protégé (this ways made known by Buhari.[/quote)

Well,I am also from Edo state in Etsako east and I was born and raised in the north too,I did all my schooling up to secondary school in Kaduna then did my higher institution in the south and came back to serve in the north.
I have a northern name attached to my name too even though I am a Christian, my dad very good Muslim friend gave me that name.

And within this years because my in-law that I grew up with was a pastor,we stayed in most northern states due to transfer from one northern state to another.

I watched people being killed with my eyes in all those Kaduna crises.

So,I don't think you know the north better than me because all the Kaduna crises happen in my presence.

You do based all you points and on propagandas and assumptions.

2011 post election violence had nothing to do with miss world crises or what ever.

Those corpers were used to rigged that election and it was unfortunate that the lost their lives in the process.


It was as simple as ABCD because I guess if I had gone with the plan they gave us in Bauchi then,I don't know if I will be here typing this.

Sometimes i laugh when you guys talk about underaged voters and I do ask this question.
Why do you guys always think that the underage voters do always vote the opposition or Buhari?

Both PDP and APC do harvest from underage voters in the north and I don't know why you guys will think all registered under age voters do vote Buhari and APC only.

Where ever this parties have strong base,they both register underage voters.

So,underage voters do cancel each others out in the north from both PDP,APC and other parties.

If the south do rig with underage voting,I think I will prefer it to the rigging will do with guns,weapons and killings.

I will tell you that in a free and fair election that nobody dead or alive can defeat Buhari in those states you mentions above because the man made a name for himself when he was a military commandant,military governor in some of this northern states and when he was also PTF chairman.

You can still go to some hospital stores in the north now and still see some ptf stuffs there.

For him to still put up such impressive figures in some of those northern states should tell you that he was rigged out.


It was simple as APC,while you think that APC were rigging Kano with underage voting which I think both APC and PDP benefit from,PDP were busy rigging Rivers and most south south and south east states with thugs abd the nation security agencies.

So,the rigging cancelled each other out if that is what you think.
But I don't think it is easy to rig a ruling party out in any election in Nigeria.

I just think and still believe that Jonathan and PDP rigging helped in reducing the margin that Buhari would have used to defeat Jonathan.

Why did your Yaradua complained about the election that brought him to power in 2007?

Give me the answer and we continue from there.

Tinubu and everybody know that Abiola and Kingibe ticket was always going to be the last think that you will have s one religion ticket in Nigeria.

If anybody cone to tell you that Tinubu was expecting a VP slit with a Muslim president,tell that person he is a liar.

Tinubu was only looking for having his boy as VP and then go for the presidency when it is turn for the south in 2023.
Call it greed,he got what he want and he us currently the most powerful person in Nigeria now.

His boy is VP and others are holding key position in this government.

Biglittlelois:
wow


What has buhari got to do with this after the FIFA president said Pinnik should be reinstalled or Nigeria risk being ban, it is just common sense to do the needful!!!

Serious?
Give it up for the man for onces.
Didn't Abacha stopped us from going to nation cup in South Africa in 1996 and we were banned.
What if Buhari just decide to let things be and we are dumped out of all major competitions.

Hate shouldn't make us to hate even the good things a man do.

Nelson247:
To me there is nothing to fear; Tinibu will leave Buhari few days to election. Tinubu knows what he is doing, he wants to keep South west in his pocket and do away with the centre. He is taking side with Atiku but you will never know. Atiku had once saved his political empire (Lagos) from being snatched by Funsho Williams, now it is time to pay Atiku back but that is a 48 Laws of Power Principle which most of you dont know.
Just watch and see. Tinubu will leave Buhari few days to election i repeat

And you think leaving Buhari few days to the election will have any negative effect on Buhari re election?
Note that state governors of Ondo,Ekiti and Ogun are not Tinubu boys in Southwest.

Or you think Buhari men were stupid when they stood behind Bello,Akeredolou and Fayemi when Tinubu wanted his boys as governors?

The truth now is that Tinubu need Buhari more than Buhari need Tinubu.

spafu:
I am not insulting you my friend, but you are politically naïve my friend. No none northerner, who spares a thought for others will ever rig election in a place like Kano, where you have uneducated political psychopaths who are ready to kill because their own candidate lost in other places. You really disappoint me, friend. Did you care to ask yourself the cause of 2011 election violence in Baluchi, where many corps members were killed? Buhari won the election there, but those who don't value lives ask themselves, if Buhari could win, Kano, Zamfara and Baluchi, why could he not also win Aka Ibom, Enugu and Delta? Isn't that senselessness? I repeat to you Buhari was never rigged in previous elections. You can know that by listing the states he could have won. Tinubu's greed for the vice President slot was what made him to lead his people to blindly support Buhari for the first time.

Lol.
I guess you know nothing about rigging an election Mr man.

I guess you think that rigging election is all about losing a place and winning a place.

But let me give you a clue,a government might know you as a candidate is strong somewhere and allowing you to win in an area of your strength will affect the results and they will do what ever it takes to make sure you win rightly as predicted but will make sure your margin of victory is not that wide or very slim which they can cover up in it's own stronghold.


Yes,you believe Buhari do always win Kano,Bauchi,Katsina etc OK but can you swear that the figures that the PDP government were allocating to Buhari and itself were the true figures of those elections in the past in this states?


I am from the south and I served in Bauchi running up to 2011 election and I can tell you that I am lucky to be alive today and it also has to do with my reasoning too to saved myself.

I can tell you that some corpers who served in Buhari strong hold in Bauchi states were briefed and told how they were going to make sure that Buhari votes in those polling units shouldn't exceed some particular margin.

When I thought and felt Bauchi people love for Buhari,I knew that there will be problems and I have to leave Bauchi on the eve of that election and that was what saved me.


So,I know even you will not take it to come out ,wait in the rain or sun and vote for a candidate of your choice and within some minutes some body will bring out a different results.
We only blame Buhari for the violence of 2011 but will not blame the corpers that allowed themselves to be used by corrupt politicians for their evil gain by denying the people their real votes.


Buhari was winning those northern states as you stated but PDP were never allocating the real figures to him in this northern states because they know that if they do,the margin he will get in the north and middle belt would be so wide that what ever rigging PDP now rig in the southern part of Nigeria will not stop Buhari from winning those previous election.

Or you think that ex president Yaradua that admitted that the election that brought himself to power then in 2007 was bad was mad?


So,rigging is not all about winning and losing a place most times.

Your opponent can rig you out by making sure that you don't get the right figures you ought to get at a place and will also allocate some figures to himself.

Imagine Buhari winning Kano with 6,000,000 votes and PDP getting just 100,000.
Do you know how difficult it will be for PDP to cover up this votes from the southern states.


But it will be easy to cover it if they allocate 3,000,000 to Buhari and then PDP allocates 2,800,000 to it self and share the remaining votes to other parties.

In both results,Buhari win abi but the margin of victory is what is most important here and that was the rigging that was going.

You can not say Tinubu was greedy because you can not say that those that worked with PDP to remain in power were greedy too.

It is all about interest,Tinubu has produce the vice president and probably will still have a say on who become president come 2023.

So,Tinubu is a big political player that dies not allow religion,tribalism etc to affect his reasoning.

I thought IPOB people said Saraki was in aso rock and Buhari begged him and promised Saraki oil wells?

You guys now know why he was in aso rock.
Saraki got clue of this police invitation and he ran to aso rock to beg Buhari to stop it and Buhari told him that he can not interfere with any agency duty and that it is democracy.

So,it was the other way round, it was Saraki that went to aso rock to beg.

Ndonu101:
Which Police in the world writes anybody, never mind the honourable President of the Senate a letter by 8pm on Monday and ask him to report by 8am on Tuesday?

it is instructive to also learn that the police is going against the advice of the public prosecutor to hatch this plan which is aimed at nothing but to intimidate Saraki

Buhari's government is a mafia organisation full stop! Its a protection racket. Agree with the government? get a free pass! Disgree with the government? then you get all soughts of problems with Institutions of State! This is the worst form of corruption.

IGP Ibrahim Idris will one day account for his stewardship because one day even Buhari too will surely come to past!

And that VP who calls himself a Senior Advocate of Nigeria and Pastor of the Church of God sits there and play the ostrich. No protest no resignation from the VP while this injustice goes on!

Is Saraki now a demi god that the police can not invite anytime?

Not until we do away with a this sentimental judgement, this country will not move forward.

You are for him now because you feel hebis about to join your PDP but you are not looking at the angle of the crime he got himself involved in.

We keep shouting herdsmen here and there and probably we would have tag this robbery incident as herdsmen attack too if not for CCTV and police quick intervention in arresting this criminals.

Let he go and clear his name.


He already got information about the invitation and that was why he ran to aso rock to beg Buhari to intervene and this guillable ones were here shouting that Buhari was begging him and promised then oil well.

Now you guys know why he ran to aso rock and now you have tagnit witch hunting.

CharlotteFlair:
Southern States rigging out buharig in the past Even when the jihadist never went to those places to campaign

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Even if not for card readers,even when he went to the south to campaign, it would have he the same.

spafu:
Why not use your brain well bro. For the first time Buhari won Lagos and other Western States other than Ekiti and the margin was a little above 2 million despite the huge ringing that took place in Kano and you still believe Buhari could have won in any of his previous contests? Haba.

Most southern states were rigging Buhari out in previous elections.
You mean Buhari rigged out a ruling party in Kano.
Tell that to kids because I don't think any opposition party can rig out the president party in any election in Nigeria.

Enuguboy4nsk:
yes oo same way ur illiterate moda gave birthday to u at 11years with her vaginaa turn during childbirth..cow boko haram terrorist like u

We all know that baby factory products were feed with goat milk because igbos don't how cows.
I think that is why you reason like a goat.
Sorry.

Enuguboy4nsk:
abokki boko haram/fulanii illiterate terrorist

Lol
Baby factory product.

Enuguboy4nsk:
you're a a steewpeed goaat...Mr engineer thief..gerrarahere mehn

Ipob terrorist spotted.

PapaBaby:
That would be the end of Akpabio, he should not even dream of it.
I doubt the authenticity of this report anyway.

But you will easily believe those reports that are against APC I guess but will not believe this.

CharlotteFlair:
From what you wrote above, it's obvious you were still a kid when the 2015 election took place, so, I will just pass.

Lol.
I guess you are out of point.
Passing is allow.

Enuguboy4nsk:
stop comparing corruption.. all of them are thieves..this project no pass 2b naira

I guess you know nothing about engineering.
Can you estimate only the cement or rods used there?

CharlotteFlair:
It was still this hero worship you BMCs accorded buharig that got into his head and led him to commit numerous avoidable gaffes from beginning to now. Pray, buharig contested 4 times until he won the 4th time. What happened to his popularity then??
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Saraki will make a better president than buharig but of course sentiments have blinded most of his supporters who can still reason.

I guess you know that there was no card readers in those 4 previous time Buhari contested then and your PDP was always manufacturing this millions votes from the south and this southern states couldn't produced this million votes in 2015 when card readers was introduced and that was why Buhari won because your PDP couldn't over rig the election again.
Buhari shadow will defeat anybody come 2019.

Simple as ABCD.
If you know,you know

modik:
Diversionary tactics. Error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ¡

Lol guess you are out of point.
Who is the young man that is Mancron mate that your party is presenting that you think Buhari is too old to be president?

modik:
Hahahahaa

Can't stop laughing at your hypnotised mindset.

French President was only in primary school when your best was head of state and Still currently Elected president now that Macron is his country's president.

Little wonder he remains your best! (For presiding over three generations and still aspiring for the 4th)

Enjoy your defaced change!

Lol

Lol.
And those you are hoping to be president from your PDP were in nursery school then or were born yesterday abi.
Atiku is 20 years old.
Lamido is 18 years old.
Kwakwoso is 21 years old.
Go buy sense.

Wailing has made some of you guys to now reason with your legs and not brains.