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Metropolitan Museum of Art
Container (Aduno Koro) with Figures, 16th–19th century
Mali; Dogon
Wood; L. 93 in. (236.22 cm)
The Michael C. Rockefeller Memorial Collection, Bequest of Nelson A. Rockefeller, 1979 (1979.206.255)

This monumental vessel, which is over seven feet long, was kept in the house of a lineage head in a Dogon
community. It was used during an annual ritual known as goru to hold the meat of sheep and goats sacrificed at an
altar dedicated to Amma the Creator and the family ancestors. Performed at the time of the winter solstice, the
ceremony represents the culmination of rituals that celebrate the all-important millet harvest, whose abundance will
support the family in the coming year.

Such works have been described as aduno koro, an "ark of the world" meant to represent the mythic ark sent by
Amma to reorganize and populate the world. The aduno koro displays a wealth of imagery relating to the Dogon
account of genesis. Holding the eight original human ancestors and everything they needed for life on earth, the
ark was guided by Nommo, the primordial being who created order within the universe. When the ark settled on the
ground, Nommo transformed himself into a horse and transported the eight ancestors across the earth to water,
where the ark floated like a boat.

In this example, the horse's head is fitted with a bridle, representing Nommo's transformation into equine form, while
the eight original ancestors are portrayed in two groups of four on the side of the vessel. The lizardlike creature
separating the ancestors represents ayo geu, a black crocodile who killed Nommo after he completed his task of
guiding the ark.

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Lidded Container: Equestrian Figure, 16th–20th century
Mali; Dogon
Wood, metal staples; H. 33 3/4 in. (85.73 cm)
The Michael C. Rockefeller Memorial Collection, Bequest of Nelson A. Rockefeller, 1979 (1979.206.173a-c)
Metropolitan Museum of Art

This elaborately carved, monumental container was used to hold food consumed during the investment rituals of
Dogon religious and political leaders known as hogon. Hogon are the high priests of the cult of Lebe, the first
Dogon ancestor to die, whose body was miraculously transformed into a snake after his death. Associated with
regeneration and renewal, the cult is charged with maintaining the earth's fertility and ensuring the protection and
well-being of Dogon society.

This vessel's large size and visual elaboration indicates the hogon's importance within the life of a Dogon
community. Its complex iconography can be interpreted using Dogon accounts of cosmology recorded in the early
twentieth century. At the apex of the vessel, a heroic equestrian figure represents the hogon. The horse is a
traditional indication of wealth, prestige, and social dominance, but in this context it also suggests the hogon's
symbolic place within the Dogon cosmic order. It equates the hogon with Nommo, the mythic being that transformed
itself into a horse to convey an ark carrying the eight primordial ancestors to earth. Two equine forms that support
the container reinforce the hogon's connection to this moment in creation. Multiple female figures ring the vessel's
base and originally surrounded the equestrian figure (only one remains at present), calling to mind the hogon's role
in promoting female fertility within the community.

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Baule linguists staff (?) / fly-whisk (?)
Provenance: Walking Man Gallery
Ex Kaba Collection
Measurements: 15" tall

Thanks for the information, Negro Ntns. Definitely gives some insight into why they would sculpt an image of a Muslim and Islamic amulets specifically while being traditionalists themselves.

^^^

I've always wondered about something. How do they legally justify arresting people for hurling racial insults in the UK and some other European countries? I don't understand it. Granted, they don't have a Bill of Rights there (it's a controversial idea over there for some reason), but don't they have at least one law allowing people to say almost anything they want as long as it doesn't threaten local or national security and doesn't endanger anyone?

shymmex: Why should I stop it? I will continue to preach the same sermon, till we accept unity.

You're probably 1 or 2 years too late to this forum to make any impact here. Maybe you should spread the gospel on another forum.

MsDarkSkin: NOOOO!!

I support your mission but...the bolded? nope!!
It's that same mindset that cause the rift WITHIN the Nigerian community, the African community and the black community at large. The black race is NOT dependent on Nigerians nor is Nigeria dependent of Igbos specifically or Yoruba specifically and so on...ALL people within the Nigerian community TOGETHER must build Nigeria just as ALL black people must uplift the black race. Supremacy is not the same thing as patriotism.

I agree with the spirit of this statement, but people often have to be at least a little arrogant about their own self worth in order to climb to greater heights. One doesn't necessarily need to broadcast that chauvinistic arrogance and announce it with a loudspeaker, but it is occasionally useful as a motivational tool or as a reminder of what the minimum is that one needs to achieve and it shouldn't necessarily be tossed out just on principle.

Humility is socially/diplomatically useful, but a tinge of arrogance is also useful as a motivator.

Shymmex, can you please stop making these "one-nigeria"/"unity" type of threads/posts. It's getting repetitive.

I don't know why some people think one has to be an ethnic bigot or "jingoist" to dislike Sanusi.

strangerf: I doubt that. I dont think he finished his masters at ABU.

http://www.africansuccess.org/visuFiche.php?id=871&lang=en

Look at the wording: ". . .and he did the course work for Master of Science degree in Economics with distinction in Monetary Policy in 1983"

Yeah, my LSE comment wasnt meant to be taken seriously. Just trying to mock Jarus

Yeah that is pretty fishy wording. I don't know why that would be written like that. I see that this has been discussed before, on p. 5 of Katsumoto's thread questioning Sanusi's qualifications. They reached the conclusion that he didn't have an Msc.

ekt_bear: ABU today has a 2 year MS program.

I don't know if it was one year or not in the early 1980s.

Anyone who attended the school around that time or who would otherwise be familiar with it know?

Trying to figure out whether he dodged NYSC? I wouldn't put it past him, being a haughty Kano prince and all.

I don't know how one could prove/confirm that he dodged even if one confirmed that it was a 2 year program though.

ekt_bear: So if he spent 1 year on youth service, did he complete this MS from ABU in 1 year?

Did they even offer a 1 year MS at ABU in the early 80s?

Good question. But I have seen profiles of academics that earned their master's in 1 year.

Also, I haven't seen anything that shows that he took courses at the LSE so maybe that's a complete myth.

^^^
No. I wasn't trying to be funny/ironic by citing Jarus. I just put that link up there because it clears up the inaccurate LSE story.

Here are links describing Sanusi's education, experience, etc.:

http://www.oecd.org/speaker/0,3438,en_21571361_46558043_47862978_1_1_1_1,00.html

http://www.africansuccess.org/visuFiche.php?id=871&lang=en

ekt_bear: Sanusi?

LSE?

When?

https://www.nairaland.com/580205/sanusi-presented-central-bank-governor/3#7493963

Apparently he took some courses there, but his master's degree is from Abu Zaria, not the LSE:

strangerf: CBN governor accused of plagiarizing . . . its over, WE ARE ALL GOING TO HELL.

I can't tell if you're joking or being pessimistic, but what is clear is that the CBN governor a) doesn't understand how to properly cite other people's work and b) doesn't understand the simple phrase "potable water" despite being a Foucault-reading, Marx-quoting "philosopher".


@ Onlytruth, yeah, I totally missed it. Sanusi's statement is close, but slightly altered so my search was too exact and I didn't come across the quote.

^^^

I see that now. There are threads in there from a year and 2 and 3 years ago so I guess he just added the word "science" to the technology forum. Sneaky.

re@lchange:
this is the quote from Sanusi's paper which he stole from the prof's paper.

"Infrastructural Challenges: one The main challenges’ facing the
economy is poor economic and social infrastructure: bad roads, erratic
power supply, limited access to portable water and basic healthcare,
and much more." - GROWTH PROSPECTS FOR THE NIGERIAN ECONOMY(Convocation Lecture delivered at the Igbinedion University Eighth Convocation Ceremony, Okada, Edo State, November 26, 2010), Page 26.

like nigerians, like thief!
and you see Yoruba and a supposed educated edo eediot here defending their thief brother sanusi
mscheeeeeeeeeeeew!

Pipe down. Anybody who's read my posts on Sanusi on this forum knows I'm NOT a fan of Sanusi. I've criticized him multiple times, so I have no personal stake in defending him much less seeing him as my "brother". However, I acknowledge that I did miss that quote, which definitely seems to be a modified version of the quote by Dr. Dike.

Anyway, just for the record, it seems pretty clear now that Sanusi should have listed the paper of Dike's that he was using, because he (Sanusi) cited another different paper of Dike's explicitly at the end of the article. He also doesn't seem to understand academic conventions regarding exact phrases/quotes.

http://toluogunlesi./2012/04/24/lamido-sanusi-and-the-plagiarism-allegations-1/

Once again, I still don't think he can be sued for anything though.

Fashion.

She looks pretty in the opening post without makeup, and prettier than in most other pics of her.

Sisi_Kill: What is this affirmative action that you speak of?

I've been in this country for odun gbogboro now and I can honestly say it has not benefited me. So is one of those things they give yanfuyanfu like that?

Choi! How did I miss the memo? All this time papi was paying school fees and mama was making lunch so she doesn't have to gimme lunch money, I could have been affirmative actioning my way through they whole thing. My job. . .Ah! All those interviews I had to go for? You mean I coulda just waved my Affirmative Action Card?!! Ohh! this Pisses me off!!

Abeg somebody tell me. . .Where do I go for my slice of the cake? I hope they backdate oh because as I see it, they owe at least 12yrs of benefits.

You know what. . .it is now making sense, no wonder Black Americans in account for 65% of the ruling class.

Thanks Affirmative Action!!

lol affirmative action barely benefits Nigerian Americans, if at all, but those in the UK wouldn't understand that. What Nigerians in America benefit from are the civil rights act and other laws that African Americans/Black Americans worked hard and even lost lives to see implemented. If anything, affirmative action makes non-black people think all blacks in America whether of foreign or "native" origin didn't get into whatever institution or company they're at by merit. That said, I support affirmative action being kept in place in order to at least try/attempt to counter the social inequalities African Americans have to deal with.

Tragic.

agabaI23: Yea not if the speech is published in a website and made available to the public for download!
By that it is no longer just a speech, it is document that can be cited!

Well it doesn't matter now anyway. The claim was garbage just as I suspected it would be.

Alright, so I've been able to track down both Sanusi's speech and Professor Dike's article.

Now this is Dr. Dike's claim from the opening post:

He claimed that the CBN Governor, in a public lecture delivered at the Eight Convocation Ceremony of Igbinedion University, Okada, Edo state on 26 November, 2010, titled Growth Prospects For The Nigerian Economy, copied verbatim and pasted from his academic articles he published without referring to him as the original author of the work.

The plaintiff averred that Sanusi copied from pages 98,99 and 100 of his work titled, ‘Review of the Challenges Facing the Nigerian Economy: Is National Development Possible Without Technological Capability?’

He stated the copied lines as follows: “The challenges facing the economy is ineffective institutions and dilapidated infrastructure (bad roads, erratic power supply, limited access to potable water and basic healthcare, and ineffective regulatory agencies, etc). The plethora of reforms and policies are ineffective due to institutional failure (Hoff, 2003)”.

The above is just a few sentences from one of the publications in which Lamido Sanusi is alleged to have plagiarised.

At another lecture delivered by the nation’s Chief Banker at the Convocation Square, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University, Bauchi where he presented a paper titled ‘Global Financial Meltdown and the Reforms in the Nigerian Banking Sector’, Prof Dike alleged that Sanusi also copied verbatim articles originally written and published by him without acknowledging him as the author of the works from where the he sourced the materials for his lecture.

He also stated that Sanusi on different occasions copied his materials without acknowledging him as the original author of the works.

Now this is Dike's article:

http://www.jsd-africa.com/Jsda/V12No5_Fall2010_A/PDF/Review%20of%20the%20Challenges%20Facing%20the%20Nigerian%20Economy%20%28Dike%29.pdf


Now this is Sanusi's speech at Igbinedion University:

http://cenbank.org/out/speeches/2010/gov_convocation_lecture-igbinedion-university-okada_2010.pdf



The particular quote above in bold is in Dike's article on p. 99 as he stated. However the quote is NOT in Sanusi's convocation speech at Igbinedion University.



So the first of Dr. Dike's claims is absolute nonsense and I wouldn't be surprised if his other claims were also nonsense.


The thread title should maybe be updated by the mods to read "Nigerian academic in the U.S. levels false charge of plagiarism against Sanusi".

I don't think you can sue someone for using your words verbatim in a speech without acknowledging you.

It sounds frivolous and will probably be thrown out, meaning that Sanusi will probably never have to explain himself.

Seun: We supply new sections based on demand.

And how much demand was there when the literature section was created? Or the graphics/video section?

Both of those sections are moribund and have been so for a long time, yet they exist.

This is a very weak excuse, Seun.

They should dig deeper and find that oil already.

Ileke-IdI:
I believe that the mistake that you're making here is ignoring the psychologic difference from one person to another.

"Long working hours" is by itself one of the best explanation. Not every body is caught out to be a mother or a father. Not everybody deals with stress factor the same way. There have been researches done to prove that lack of parental monitoring has large influence on children. In today's economy, the last thing most parents want to do is sit/chat with their children after a long day at work. Long working hours provide little energy to attend to any child, talkless of a misbehaving child.

Study shows that teens engage in delinquent acts between 2pm (when school ends) and 8pm. During that time frame, parents are usually at work.


I'm a little confused here tho; what do you define as an "explanation"/ "description". . . . . Any of the stages of Bronfenbrenner's Ecological Systems Theory could influence a child's behavior. From a direct parental influence to a parental's work stress.

I think the issue here is single parent homes. A single parent home can't raise a child adequately while the parent has long working hours. The one thing I didn't disagree with shymmex on was his "absentee fathers" statement. With 2 parents in the home, long hours won't be as much of an issue. If they both work and split taking care of the kids between each other, they'll still have more time for the kid or kids than one person working and trying to take care of the kid or kids just because the labor will be divided. And if only 1 of the 2 is actively working, even better.

Katsumoto: I think it's time to provide some perspective.

There many Nigerians in many cities in the UK; Manchester, Birmingham, Essex, Kent, Surrey, Bath, Berkshire, Birmingham, London, etc. There are also many Nigerian families in the many different boroughs of London. There are approximately 32/33 boroughs. The Boroughs where Nigerian kids are likely to get into trouble are Lambeth, Southwark, and Hackney. And even in those three main boroughs, Nigerians kids are leaving high school with great results.

There is no need for outsiders to think that there is a good chance that a Nigerian kid can get into trouble with the law. The truth is being stretched at this point. It has been estimated that there are at least 5 million nigerians in the UK. The number of Nigerian kids who have made the headlines for the wrong reasons is less than 150 and I am being generous. That some Nigerian kids got into trouble doesn't other kids are in trouble or in danger of being in trouble.

The UK is a small country relative to the US and also small to the US in terms of violent crime. Negative news about violent crime is likely to get more coverage in the UK than in the US. It just means if Nigerian kids in the US get into trouble, it's not going to get as much coverage.

Thanks for this post. So the post by the OP was basically off by a wide margin and she got the wrong impression based on a few news stories. This clears things up a lot.

shymmex: 5million Nigerians in the UK?

That number is ridiculous, I doubt we're upto 1million max. I didn't expect the great Kats to make that mistake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_British


Yeah, Nigerians in Britain aren't up to 1 million if there were only 1.5 million blacks in the UK in 2009.

shymmex: You sound naive to think that, there's no poverty in the UK. There's no point have a discourse with someone who's an outsider. I'll just laugh off your post, and act as if I didn't see it.

I was only saying that it sounds inappropriate to call it poverty. There are poor people in almost every country, but the word "poverty" has a completely different import/connotation to it (even if its dictionary definition just means poor). We're talking about the UK, not Somalia. There are poor people yes, but I couldn't call anyone living in Britain 'impoverished' and feel ok about it.