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What does "obua" mean? I've looked the other ones up, but I don't get that one.

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@ 2buff

I'm not interested in joining in the conversation/debate but I have a comment on a statement you made. You stated:

your currency was run to the ground by your crooked black leaders

In reality wasn't Nigeria's currency fine until the structural adjustment program?

And even then a crooked black leader (Abacha) tried to keep it from devaluing further.

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But you know Rossike is very correct with his point that Lagosians are actually better off today than back then, right?

It's just that a lot of people can't see that.

Yeah I know. That's what I meant actually, although I see now that what I wrote was a bit ambiguous. I mean when he sees this thread he'll descend on it and destroy people's delusions.

RIP

This sh1t is getting crazy. Oshiomhole better increase his security.

Don't let Rossike see this thread.

Maybe they're dying off quicker with boko haram in the area.

@ OP

"se una" is actually "see una". See is proper English while "una" is "you." So it means "see you" or "see you (all)."


"Am fine" instead of "I'm fine" is just terrible grammar.

Those expressions you observed are not the standard English spoken/written in formal setting. It's a 'loosed' form of English called pidgin English like one poster rightly pointed out. I found out a couple of years while studying french that it was pretty much modeled in structure like french(most likely from the influence of Nigeria's francophone neighbours. For instance, I pondered why 'je ne sais pas'(french) and ' i no sabi'(pidgin English) were so similar in structure. My instructor once warned me that if I want to learn french, I should stay away from using the English language to study it. But on the contrary, I found it so easy learning french using pidgin English as a guide.

More likely influence from Portuguese. Portuguese and French are both Romance/Neo-Latin languages while English is a Germanic language.

In the US, lots of educated people add their degree after their name, you'd think it was their last name. Not everything is peculiar to Nigeria, sorry to disappoint you mate.

I don't think you really understand the disease ravaging Nigerians with degrees and titles. In the U.S. people add Ph.D or D.Sc or both at the end of their name. Or M.D at the end of their name or M.D and Ph.D. or M.Sc (or D.Sc).

This is what is standard in the U.S. for example:

http://www.sph.umich.edu/iscr/faculty/profile.cfm?uniqname=jnriagu

http://www.genome.gov/26525376

https://medschool.mc.vanderbilt.edu/facultydata/php_files/part_dept/show_part.php?id3=15921

Or at most something like this:

http://www.roswellpark.edu/kunle-odunsi

http://globalhealth.vanderbilt.edu/about/people/aliyum



Outside of the U.S., though, we sometimes see Nigerians doing stuff like this:


http://profobafunwa.com/biography
http://www.profjohnobafunwa.com/biography

"Professor John Oladapo OBAFUNWA

MBBS, FMCPath, FWACP (Lab.Med), DMJPath, FRCPath, FFPathRCP(I), Cert. Law (UK), LL.B. (Hons.) (UK), FCLM, FICS, FFFLM (Lond)."


Surely you can see the difference and the problem in the last case. It's a bad British trend that doesn't seem to be going away.

Who cares? I'm pretty sure they don't.

Fulaman198: I don't mean to sound boastful/prideful but Dangote is just following his Fulani roots, Fulani believe in giving back and not being selfish and share as much as they can. Americans (whites, blacks, hispanic, etc.) believe in a more selfish/individualistic culture and believe if they are helping others out it is a bad thing. They feel that others don't want to work which is a lie, the truth is is that they are being selfish.

It is more of a cultural thing, in Fulani culture (and other true TRADITIONAL African cultures) if you are selfish, you are shunned. In American/Western culture, if you are selfish people think it is the right thing to do.

Apparently Dangote is mostly Hausa:

https://www.nairaland.com/102638/aliko-dangote-started-out-like#9278616

Gbawe: I don't think you know John Oyegun at all and this is why you say what you do. Please look into the man's history. He was Governor for only a year (1992-1993) before the military took power by force. He then bravely inaugurated NADECO with others to fight military rule. There should always be a place in political Parties for those committed to democracy as he is. If the likes of Anenih, Tukur and IBB are active today then certainly I believe Oyegun has far more to give than those sort. For those who know their history, it is clear he deserves respect as well and not this blanket condemnation we have for all politicians especially those above 60.

My statement still stands. I don't see what the man achieved outside of politics and I don't see what he achieved in politics, NADECO included. The man's time is past. And of course Anenih, Tukur and IBB should no longer be on the scene either.

anonymous6: what do you think?

They have gold mines, we have “hip-hop.”

That says it all right there.

Think about those oil barons in oil producing areas in the south in the U.S.
Think of the cotton plantation owners in slavery times.

Were those people really brilliant businessmen? Not really. Some of the African businessmen, especially the oil millionaires, fall into that "not really brilliant" category that some of those early American businessmen did.

Granted there are/were many real brilliant businessmen and women in America in certain areas of industry in America, those people have/had full access to and integration with the larger society and all of its resources, and some of them even had influential connections to lawmakers. That kind of integration with the larger society is what you have in Africa that allows for millionaires and billionaires to spring up in "traditional" areas in Africa, but which makes it hard for the same thing to happen to black Americans in the U.S. Look at how Sir Louis Ojukwu started - transportation. Look at how the Dantata dynasty started - with kola nuts, ground nut, livestock, etc. Those people were able to exploit a vacuum that existed for something that was needed/greatly desired in their immediate community. Look at the bankers, media moguls, telecommunications moguls. It's the same thing. For African Americans to come up with a product needed or wanted nationwide would be far more difficult in my opinion because they don't have that full immersion into the larger American society so they can't predict that what is really needed or wanted or see as easily what areas they can tap into and exploit to make their millions or billions.

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lmao

wtf kind of outfit is this? Is there really some group in Nigeria in which the women used fruit to cover their tittays?


Anyway, Elshammah Enadelo Igbanoi is fine. Damiete Charles and Joyce Ngozi Chidebe are good too. The rest are either just average or ugly.

As I said before, this false prophet is just a nuisance.

blink182: Wait for it

Chief Sir Dr. Gabriel Osawaru Igbinedion jp ksm sss BBC pure water the esama of benin, the gwan Toro of lantang, the okut kpara koyin of ibadan...bla bla bla

Quite a mouthful but ℓ̊ love it, if ℓ̊ achieve it, then ℓ̊ want τ̅☺ be addressed as such.

What's sad is that his actual string of titles is almost as long as the fake one you posted:

Sir. (Dr.) Chief Gabriel Osawaru Igbinedion LLD, D.LITT, GCK <----- from his website.


This is a disease inherited from the British. In some old British publications you can read a string of " Dlitts " and "LLDs" and other irrelevant titles following the author's name.

Igbinedion should drop that "Chief" from his name though since he's no longer a chief.

ezotik: as the Obayanisokevbetor of Winnipeg, i only value traditional titles. and i look fwd to becoming the future Iyase of Benin, that's if Ovbioba Physics is not interested on the position.

You have to have a lot of clout and know people to even be in the running for that and I don't think I'll be in contention for that when I finally do return to Naija, so you won't have me as competition. And lol @ "Obayanisokevbetor of Winnipeg"

Nairaboi: . . . U are what? A fo.ool. So na hw u go poo 4 toilet we 4 c 4 frontpage abi? D guy pass u and theres nothing u or any oda hater that want it 2 be on backpage can do. . .

Grow up.

PapaBrowne: Ghana is try hard to leverage on Nigeria.

Proof?

Or is this just another one of those "feel good" stories that you tend to tell?

afam4eva: Asaba is really taking advantage of it's close proximity to Onitsha(a commercial hub) as we're seeing a rise in reasl estate in Asaba which has afforded some Onitsha business men a good home close to their business. The Asaba international airport was also setup with Onitsha in mind because Onitsha business people will not have to use the Enugu airport any longer as Asaba is closer.

Asaba is still a state capital and is of course a unique case being so close to another large city. I was thinking of cases involving truly smaller towns and cities in the same LGA or a nearby LGA not developing because of the focus on the big city.

Gbawe: Politics is not about seeking office alone.

For some people, sure. But for Oyegun:

Oyegun: As soon as they decide on the event (day of his open declaration), they will know that I, Oyegun, has a national appeal.

Remember he was a VP candidate with Shekarau in the last election as a septuagenarian.


When a man hasn't achieved anything by the age of 72, he should probably just call it quits and retire.

PapaBrowne: I feel the south western states should develop even more by virtue of their proximity to Lagos, but rather the opposite is the case!!

I think the same thing happens on a smaller scale in other parts of the country with other large cities and the surrounding smaller cities and towns.

PapaBrowne: I don't exactly classify Lagos as a SouthWest state in any analysis the same way I can't classify Abuja as a North Central "state"!
Lagos remains the business capital of Nigeria and serves as a melting pot where every other state cooks in!!
Interestingly, 80% of the flights terminate in Lagos!

I was answering your question about how they "survive without airports". Nigeria's main airport is right there.

^^^^
Lagos

Congrats to him and all, but I'm genuinely surprised this was put on the front page.

naptu2: This is one of the problems caused by colonialism. We can never create anything, we can never make anything, we can only follow what's done in other places. Follow follow.

And so we'll always be behind, following.

I don't think this is about creativity or originality.

Calling oneself "Architect" or "Engineer" does sound ridiculous and pompous.

If Mr. Johnson got an undergraduate degree in biology from Harvard, he still wouldn't/shouldn't call himself or introduce himself as "Biologist Johnson". He should/would get a doctorate and then call himself Dr. Johnson. That's the simple truth that this thread is pointing out.

This man is 72 years old. He should retire from politics already.

Adejoro74: Anything scientific for blacks only is inferior in the USA. Because they cannot compete, they segregate. Hey! Many of the so-called naija profs here are teaching in Black-only unis.

I understand that you're on the war path right now Nchara, but this is the guy you were calling half-baked:

Dr. Akinboboye served on the teaching faculty of Columbia University from 1995 to 2000. He was the Director of Nuclear Cardiology at St. Francis Hospital, the heart Center, from 2000 to 2006. Between 2006 and 2009 he served as Associate Director of the Division of Cardiology and Director of Nuclear Cardiology, Cardiac MRI and Cardiac CT at New York Hospital Queens.

In 2004 and 2005, he served as an invited expert on interpretation of challenging cases in nuclear cardiology at the annual scientific meeting of the American Society of Nuclear Cardiology.

Dr. Ola Akinboboye has received numerous awards. He was selected by Castle Connolly for inclusion in it's prestigious Top Doctors: New York Metro Area - 9th ed. representing the top 10% of doctors in the region and by the Network Journal as one of the Best Black Doctors in the New York tri-state area in February 2005. He was cited as one of the best cardiology specialists by New York magazine in 2006, 2007, and 2008.

Dr Akinboboye is an accomplished clinician, teacher and researcher. In 1986 he received a 4-year grant for the National Institute of Health to study the effects of treatment on the cardiovascular complications of hypertension in African-Americans. He also received a 3-year grant form the American heart Association to study the effects of sildenafil on exercise capacity in patients with congestive heart failure. He is also the recipient of many industry and Saint Francis Heart Foundation research grants on diabetes and heart imaging. He has over 100 scientific publications in the fields of hypertension, diabetes and heart imaging.

Dr. Ola Akinboboye has trained several generations of fellows in cardiology at New York Presbyterian medical Center, State University of New York at Stony Brook, and New York Hospital Queens.

He has served as chair of several symposia in national scientific meetings of many professional societies including American College of Cardiology, American Society of Nuclear Cardiology, American Heart Association and Association of Black Cardiologists. He presently serves on the Boards of the certifying board of nuclear cardiology and Nigerian high education fund. He also served on the Board of the Association of Black Cardiologists from 1999 to 2005.

Dr. Akinboboye presently chairs the eligibility committee of the Board of Nuclear Cardiology and the CME committee of the Association of Black Cardiologists.
Professional Affiliations
· Fellow, American College of Physicians
· Fellow and Member of the International Committee 1997-2000, American College of Cardiology
· Member, American Heart Association
· Member, International Society of Hypertension in Blacks
· Member, Americal Society of Nuclear Cardiology
· Member, Society of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance
· Member, Association of Black Cardiologists
· Member, Certification Board of Nuc Cardiol.
· Speakers' Bureau, Bristol-Myers Squibb
· Speakers' Bureau, Jujisawa
· Abstract Grading, International Society of Hypertension in Blacks: Annual scientific sessions

I think you should retract your words and slap yourself a few times for suggesting that this man is "half-baked."

shymmex: @OP

What's bad about making claims?? Europeans also lied about the first university in the world being Bologna University...

Every student of history knows that the first university in the world was in Timbuktu, Mali... And the second one was in Salamanca, Spain...

Get a life!!

The first university was probably in North Africa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Ez-Zitouna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Al-Karaouine