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cococandy:
and do penance. absolutely.

What does penance mean

Like charity gifts to orphans?

cococandy:
Ok

Do you believe once you confess to God or priest it's ok?

ok...

Setaje:
Right from conceding elections to the end. Which is somewhat unafrican. He has tried.

Setaje:
No matter how u guys look at it. Jonathan was in an awkward situation. I think that is why his wife did not attend. Considering what she displayed during the CHIBOK girls incident. She would have cried if she was there. As for jonathan, he acted like a man and showed true leadership. After loosing an election, I don't no how he got the strength to do all what he did. I am amused. I cannot do it. Don't no anybody who would. I'd rather just retire peacefully wivout any noise. Just seeing him get involved in everything even to the last minute, says a lot about his character and how moving wiv the wrong crowd can assassinate your true character.

Are u talking about the inauguration activities gej did?

If your 'mother' in Israel had said something different then you will not be her daughter Na



Brothers beware

Deception lives and breathes in the church
If these are the kind of people preaching ideology in d church you are best looking for a babe in the club

Women in d church are ready to do anything just to keep and stay in their deceptive marriages

I won't be surprised if they are also fetish and consult occult

Beware..

babyosisi:
My conclusion after discussing this topic with a much older woman of God I love and respect[/size]


There was a story that prompted the no 3 point and ultimately this thread and I told that story earlier. A lady with a philandering mean spirited husband that has deserted her for months erred and slept with a family friend of theirs.
In one of their "on again" moments she confessed her misdeed to her husband ( who has his own chain of affairs) and he filed for a divorce and they got divorced despite her pleas and people pleading on her behalf.
I called my mother in The Lord to ask her because I am being careful not to give a wrong counsel
My mother in The Lord is a 70 year old woman of God and this is what she said,I am summarizing a 35 minute conversation

1) yes the bible says confess your sins one to another and be healed,it has it's place
2) it doesn't however mean God regards your confession as incomplete when you don't.If your heart is sincere,he forgives regardless.
3)the bible also talks about applying wisdom in your dealings
4)no scripture stands in isolation so in your confession,you ought to be wise
5)The woman in this case did not apply wisdom,the marriage was already rocky,that is no man to confess anything to
She acted foolishly

Then I asked her point blank .would you have confessed that to your husband if you were her

She said never!!
I love my husband,we have a good relationship but if that were to be me,I will repent before my God and keep my mouth shut

I asked again,what will you advise a young woman in the same situation to do?
She said repent sincerely and keep your mouth shut

That settles it for me

Kimoni:


Yes oooo

Everything you say in my world must be backed with empirical evidence.

Did you read that interview where Ekwesili asked for same and the whole of Naija went gaga

Meanwhile, she said it innocently without any pun intended

Lol
Ok

Kimoni:
Hmnnnn

Funny thing is I didn't explore any of these reasons except for the last point which I talked briefly on. They are not material enough in my judgement. thnx though


Coogar and TV must know about the first two. I await their analysis

No be everytime we go dey discuss man - woman matter

Man shall not live by bread alone

No problem

cococandy:
I was gonna ask that too. You took it out of my mouth.

Pls pickabeau if you don't mind, how does telling the man your sins amount to restitution?

In my denomination that I grew up with, once you confess your sins to the priest, you're given a penalty or you chose a penalty that you know would require you making some sort of sacrifice and do it.
Then restitution is complete. It doesn't go beyond you and the priest or you and your God (if you didn't go to the priest for confession) and the matter ends there.

How does telling the other person bring you restitution?

Read my posts to bykatyne
I was referring to stuff done in marriage

Why r u confessing to priest when u have a husband?

Kimoni
Are u the queen of empirical land?

Kimoni:
~ Why did Metronet fail

~ why did BSF (building for the future) fail

~ why is NHS in a financial squeeze

Answers plsss

Don't know much about the first two

NHS

Medical tourists
Exorbitant pay for administrators
Low birth rate and aging population
Economic recession

Kimoni:
Ok

No wahala

How is your assignment going

If u don't mind...what's it on

Kimoni:
Pick, pls don't instigate anything I beg you.

I mentioned TV for a reason, he doesn't sound like the kind of guy that will deny what he believes in.

How many times has TV advised singles to stay away from single mothers and divorcees? On this same thread?

Or you have never read this before?

Yet again, you are the one twisting that statement. Show me where any one said single mothers are better than spinsters?

Yes he is able to make himself clear
The message which is not only his but most of us's is that single motherhood is not ideal and should not be encouraged

As a single mom you are not able to command the full spectrum of desirable men but have To settle


This is against what you and your fellow femmes say up n down

That they are as if not more desirable than unmarried girls as they have shown they are fertile...

That is laughable to say the least and borders on the aburd


Is that the stigma you accuse us of doing

Kimoni:
I need empirical evidence

Nobody has stigmatized single women more on NL than TV.

Now you are making things personal
I fail to see any stigma by him or anyone else

Saying the truth is now stigma?

Saying that single mom's are not better than unmarried girls is now stigma?


Why do u women hate to hear the truth...

Kimoni:
Something is trending does not mean it's desirable to me. Must it?

I can bet my last penny nobody said single moms are more desirable than spinsters. I am sure what was said is that they should not be stigmatized. Is it not the character of the person that matters more than anything else? Is the one who aborted her child better than the one who gave life to the child? As long as you are not a virgin, you have no right to stigmatized a single mom/dad. It is repition of the mistakes that I kick against cuz it's no more a mistake, it's now a habit eg Tuface

When u say better...wat do u mean..like morally or marriage wise?

bukatyne:
Is that really the premise of the thread?

when do u answer a question plainly..i said in my opinion

What is your own take away from the thread

bukatyne:
Who has encouraged sexual liberty?

The premise of that thread is simple in my opinon

Men sleep around and have secrets\
women you can sleep around too and keep secrets

1. what is your own take away from the thread

bukatyne:
OK, do you advise restitution If a husband cheats on his wife?

That is scriptural

babyosisi:
You folks are specialists in making up stories and telling them
Please what is restitution in this context we speak
A girl has a past and meets you,what is the restitution she owes you
Oya tell us please

I have been particular about marriage

Using the bible to justify crap is why I came in

coogaluta:
good luck in telling men to keep their diccks where God intended it to be-between their legs

It worked in the old days

You would be forced to marry her
The simple solution was to limit the woman

babyosisi:
I asked you to stick to one topic so you won't be all over the place
We are still at the topic of a woman meeting you and confessing her past sins or are you in agreement that it's unecessary?
That is where I am right now,you dismissed the word husband in my initial post to you so we are not at the husband phase yet

Let's skip to the husband phase

That's my interest

babyosisi:
Don't take scripture out of context
No place does the bible say a girl meets a man and starts blabbing about her past
Confess your sins one to another to be healed,complete the scripture,don't shorten it to suit your purposes
A girl who slept with 29 men in her past and has moved on from it is already healed so she there is no confession to make
A sick man needs no physician.
What restitution does one do towards a person you neither sinned against nor wronged
Please take your yahoo 419 preaching elsewhere

I am particular once again about your twisted version of confession without restitution
So of a woman cheated on her husband once she confessed to God she is good to go right?

coogaluta:
or sexual purity for all genders

Beautiful

So the message should be this rather than encouraging sexual liberty

bukatyne:
Interesting you are going the Scripture route.

Does the Scripture support men cheating on their wives? Does it exult female chastity over male chastity?

Am I God a sinner is praying to?

Have you restituted all your sins?

I only went there when someone says God will allow to confess to him without restitution and you seemed to support it

Normally I would not have come in

Let's not use bible to justify human wisdom of keeping your marriage with a foundation built on lies and secrets

babyosisi:
I am here on nairaland with you how many of your sins have you confessed to me
Once you confess to God in total repentance ,not just lip service,your sins are forgiven
That is scripture
Anything you add to it to suit you, makes it false

That's not the bible

Christ advocated restitution
It's both in the new and old testaments

After Zaccheus had been saved he was told to go and refund stolen monies

even the apostle James said confess your sins one to another James 5 16

Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.


I have no problem with you behaving like a demagogue and preaching mixed teaching but to justify repentance without confession or restitution Using the bible is warped

bukatyne:
Depends on the sin.

I do not see How restitution comes into someone 's past. A party Cheating in the present relationship... yes.

Ok

At least you've made a stand

So why don't you make that clear in relation to the op which advocates confession without restitution

Using of Scripture to support ungodly injunction is what I did not expect and for you not to make that clear was all the more telling

bukatyne:
Is There anywhere people confessed their sins publicly or to someone else?

Do you confess your sins to someone else apart from God?

Why ask a question with another question


Once again I ask is it scriptural to confess sins to God and not also to the harmed party or undertake some form of restitution

Yes or No

bukatyne:
Is There anywhere the Bible says confess your past to your spouse?

All I asked was is it scriptural to confess to God and be free...is it?

babyosisi:
And where does it say tell your whole past to your husband?
Show us

Why add husband..was that my word
You said once you pray to God..you are free....not in the bible


You are the one veiling your earthly wisdom with scripture

The Bible says confess your sins one to another

coogar:
i guess the replies are distracting her. she wants to finish her assignment before coming back here to expose men's supposed double standards when it comes to sēxual history.

I guessed as much

What I don't get is her point

Is she advocating sexual license for all genders as a solution

Kimoni:
Coogar, pls don't respond till evening. Nobody should respond to me till evening.

Pls help a sister

Why

What help do u need

bukatyne:
The OP gave her opinion on an issue and supports it. This is not about teaching women to deceive their husbands or not.

I am 100% sure a lot of men Don't come clean to Their spouses too.

Does the Bible support what she said or its a mishmash of earthly wisdom with smattering of scriptures?


Where is it said confess to God and move on